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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 12:39 am
by aagiants
Ummmm i dont think its good that u encourage them... take a patch a pill or shot... do something. Dont let your friend F ur wife... it will only lead to bad things

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 12:44 am
by RoscoPColtrane
zooner wrote:

he has. I've been begging them to f*ck for a long time.

Respecfully sir, you have no idea what love is. YOu are stuck inside some insane 'romantic' idea in your own head.....sad.... :(

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 1:04 am
by zooner
CiscoKid wrote:This sure does explain alot about you man...especially the porn site you were talking about getting started...
nah, that was all about the cash.

market is entirely too saturated to take on an upstart though. would have been a wasted effort.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:10 am
by Joint Chiefs of Staff
zooner wrote:nah, that was all about the cash.

market is entirely too saturated to take on an upstart though. would have been a wasted effort.
To compete against the big boys you have to sell something unique that the big boys don't sell. Take Wal-Mart for example. If you sell something of quality that Wal-Mart doesn't then you will command a buyers market and hence compete.

/back on topic

Self hurt is the worst feeling. You need to let it go and move on or else "the hurt" will be the end of your relationship with your wife.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:14 am
by Jamie_R
zooner wrote:I've been begging them to f*ck for a long time. he actually kissed her on a dare.
:wth: :wth: :nope:

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:16 am
by 9mmprincess
Zerohero wrote:Awaits for the size isn't everything speach :p
*crickets chirp*

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:31 am
by cybotron r_9

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 8:08 am
by David
It will not expunge you feelings of guilt. You fell for temptation, you were forgiven. Get over it and move on for the sake of normalcy. Yes, it is important for your children.

You need not stare at your scars.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:20 am
by 9mmprincess

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:42 am
by cybotron r_9
9mmprincess wrote:oh for god's sake, lighten up.
:wth: Who made you Princess for the day?

I was trying to be funny, guess you just don't get my brand of humor. ;)

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:53 am
by SpareX
This is only my opinion, take it as nothing more and nothing less, listen as you like, ignore what you will..

You have been smiled upon my friend. to be able to live with the woman and family you love even after any sort of "sin" is a good sign that you are slowly being forgiven. What you need to do is sit down with her and talk.. really talk.. if you love her, attempt to start over anew. If you've tried and she cannot forgive you enough.. then time will need to work some more.. dont lose hope, and dont take it out on yourself anymore. Do what you must to make your life and yourself better for her.

many people here say many negative things about what you are doing between your wife and your friend.. I personally think that if she loves you and you love her and you know she will not chase him even after any extra events may happen, then what you have is a free swinging relationship. That is not a bad thing either. Now-a-days its very common, hell in Canada there are swing clubs for such lifestyles, and i dont doubt thier exsistance here in the states either but hard to find im sure..

The Tatoo I personally think is a bad idea.. Sin is something that should be forgiven, learned from, and remembered only in an echo.. not in a day to day event..

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 11:20 am
by Izzo
this is just bizarre....begging your friend to bang your wife?....What on Earth would your children think?

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 11:47 am
by knightmare
9mmprincess wrote:*crickets chirp*

So what you are saying is-- don't show up to 9mm's house packing a snubnose .38?

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 11:50 am
by YeOldeStonecat
knightmare wrote:So what you are saying is-- don't show up to 9mm's house packing a snubnose .38?
Heehee.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 12:58 pm
by Jamie_R
John wrote:I would murder in cold blood any man, before I let him touch my S.O. in the way you are discussing.

Maybe I am just immature.
well, that makes two of us then ...

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 1:17 pm
by EvilAngel
Joint Chiefs of Staff wrote: :nod:

mal-ha-ba pat!

:D

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 7:14 pm
by fastchevy
Ghosthunter wrote:my best advice is dont talk about marriage issues here on SG
Joint Chiefs of Staff wrote:Especially if she knows that you post here. :D

Ain't that the ****ing truth!!! :D

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 7:46 pm
by CableDude
Jamie_R wrote:well, that makes two of us then ...
Well, that makes three of us then...

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:52 pm
by Zilog B
zooner is the 2nd weirdest dude on the internet

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:06 pm
by jeffe5150
fastchevy wrote:Ain't that the ****ing truth!!! :D

Speaking of this, what happened to wee? looks like he's one of the latest to fall victom of T.M.I. on SG.

SG does wonders for teh married doods.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:51 pm
by Blisster
I don't think the forgiveness zooner so dearly seeks is that of his wife's. It sounds like she has already forgiven him. I don't htink he has been able to forgive himself. Regret is a very difficult thing to live with.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:31 am
by Rivas
wtf :confused: :(
zooner ?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 6:20 am
by zooner
SpareX wrote:This is only my opinion, take it as nothing more and nothing less, listen as you like, ignore what you will..

You have been smiled upon my friend. to be able to live with the woman and family you love even after any sort of "sin" is a good sign that you are slowly being forgiven. What you need to do is sit down with her and talk.. really talk.. if you love her, attempt to start over anew. If you've tried and she cannot forgive you enough.. then time will need to work some more.. dont lose hope, and dont take it out on yourself anymore. Do what you must to make your life and yourself better for her.

many people here say many negative things about what you are doing between your wife and your friend.. I personally think that if she loves you and you love her and you know she will not chase him even after any extra events may happen, then what you have is a free swinging relationship. That is not a bad thing either. Now-a-days its very common, hell in Canada there are swing clubs for such lifestyles, and i dont doubt thier exsistance here in the states either but hard to find im sure..

The Tatoo I personally think is a bad idea.. Sin is something that should be forgiven, learned from, and remembered only in an echo.. not in a day to day event..
well said and thank for taking the time to offer me your wisdom.

just to clarify one thing. my sin wasn't sexual or money related. I simply betrayed her in a way that will never be forgiven.

I love my wife and she loves me. We have a love that parallels my strangeness. the sex was merely a pillow mint in our relationship.

In discussing our future, she suggested we buy a duplex. So we can still be joined at the brain, but feel more comfortable sleeping with other people.

I suggested she f*ck my best friend for a couple of simple reasons. I trust him completely and know that he wouldn't hurt her. He has a kinship love for her. From talking to his ex-wife (in idle chatter - I have no boundaries in conversation), he is a very skilled love-machine. His talents would give my wife the pleasure that she deserves.

would you buy the love of your life a porsche or a pinto; given money as no object.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 9:17 am
by Izzo
I'm flabbergasted by this thread... man Zoon. This is F'd up.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 9:50 am
by zooner
Izzo wrote:I'm flabbergasted by this thread... man Zoon. This is F'd up.
hence the power of forums.

The capability to seek advice from many friends without decimating your real life. great therapy!

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 9:56 am
by Izzo
zooner wrote:hence the power of forums.

The capability to seek advice from many friends without decimating your real life. great therapy!

I won't argue.....nor will I judge. Be well.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:11 am
by zooner
Izzo wrote:I won't argue.....nor will I judge. Be well.
thank you

my only concern is for her well-being. and my children of course.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:12 am
by tao_jones
John wrote:I would murder in cold blood any man, before I let him touch my S.O. in the way you are discussing.
Very true.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:13 am
by Roody
I am sorry you find yourself in this situation Zooner. I hope one day you can find peace with it. :(

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:41 am
by nightowl
zooner, what are you going to do if your wife gets pregnant by your best friend?

What will happen if you get some other lady pregnant?

Just a few things to think about.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:32 am
by David
[quote="zooner"]well said and thank for taking the time to offer me your wisdom.

just to clarify one thing. my sin wasn't sexual or money related. I simply betrayed her in a way that will never be forgiven.

I love my wife and she loves me. We have a love that parallels my strangeness. the sex was merely a pillow mint in our relationship.

In discussing our future, she suggested we buy a duplex. So we can still be joined at the brain, but feel more comfortable sleeping with other people.

I suggested she f*ck my best friend for a couple of simple reasons. I trust him completely and know that he wouldn't hurt her. He has a kinship love for her. From talking to his ex-wife (in idle chatter - I have no boundaries in conversation), he is a very skilled love-machine. His talents would give my wife the pleasure that she deserves.

would you buy the love of your life a porsche or a pinto]


It is referred to as "love-making" for a very good reason.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:36 am
by Jamie_R
zooner wrote:just to clarify one thing. my sin wasn't sexual or money related. I simply betrayed her in a way that will never be forgiven.
ok, I'm sorry, but I've gotta ask - the curiosity is killing me ...

WTF did you do Zooner??

maybe if we had some idea, it would help some of us (myself included) understand why you want your wife to have sex with another guy ...

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:36 am
by Izzo
Hell_Yes wrote:It is referred to as "love-making" for a very good reason.

y'know ..I just about hit the 'submit reply' button with a similar statement this morning .....

I'm curious ...you say you're beggin him to "f***" your wife...what if your boy wants to "make love" to your wife. What then?


edit> I'm with JR...kinda can't post a thread like this and not spill the whole pot o' beans.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:37 am
by Jamie_R
Izzo wrote:I'm curious ...you sayoing you're beggin him to "f***"....what if your boy wants to "make love" to your wife. What then?
good point :nod:

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:48 am
by A_old
I guess I'm worried that their "fun" relationship might turn into her wanting a divorce from you to be with him. You'd then be out two best friends. Whatever your decision, good luck.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:33 pm
by cyberskye
John wrote:I would murder in cold blood any man, before I let him touch my S.O. in the way you are discussing.

Maybe I am just immature.
Maybe insecure vs. immature - no judgements here at all.

Everyone has different thresholds. I've been in a polyamorous-like relationship before (my GF and I dated the same woman at the same time). It takes a lot of faith in yourself and your relationship to not feel the need to control/own it. It's much *safer* to be the only one iwtha guarantee - marriage certificate, promise of being the 'only one'. I never worried once about be left out/alone.

The only way to truly keep something is to be able give it away - be it love, respect or trust.

What percentage of marriages in this country end in divorce....?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:36 pm
by Brk
cyberskye wrote: What percentage of marriages in this country end in divorce....?
That old, rehashed justification has no bearing on this.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:59 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
cyberskye wrote: I've been in a polyamorous-like relationship before (my GF and I dated the same woman at the same time).
I bow at your feet.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:13 pm
by cyberskye
Burke wrote:That old, rehashed justification has no bearing on this.
It's not a justification for anything, simply a statement that 'traditional' views of relationships may not be as perfect as some hold.

I don't think anything that zooner or I posted requires any justification at all.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:16 pm
by Izzo
cyberskye wrote:It's not a justification for anything, simply a statement that 'traditional' views of relationships may not be as perfect as some hold.

I don't think anything that zooner or I posted requires any justification at all.
tell that to his children when they ask why mommy is kissing another man.