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YeOldeStonecat wrote:And by default...what does Firefox had for a search bar? Yup! The BHO's for Google are in there too!
And Internet Exploader users....what does IE have by default? Bing...and we have pretty much the same equivalent.

"by default" I turn mine off... never use it so don't run it. But either way I refuse to run toolbars for many reasons not just this one...as I said Google is sticking its head into just about everything that Face(Lame)book isn't.

Google is a company built up based on tracking everyone and sends a customized Ad into any browser. That is their business model, all other things are all pudding. For example, look at Youtube, everyone can upload anything they want for free, but they make their money on the targeted Ads to the user. That is the reason, the advertisers paying them money and making profit quarter after quarter in Billions.

If they don't track their users’ behavior, then the company will go out of business.

As for the turning off the Option doesn't matter. I am concern about their Browser program itself. They may have the coding to monitor the browser usage that may not know to anyone, since they don't have to give the source code to anyone. If they don't have one, it would be against their own business model on which they have built up Google.

So, if they have their own browser, they can code it anyway they want to monitor it without anyone's knowledge. It is like you tap into your own phone line by connecting a hidden recording device or a hidden camera to catch your cheating spouse. She never knows nor she can sue you if it is in your own house under your name.

Chrome makes it easy for them to collect all data and then one day Character Reporting Agency can be born like present day Credit reporting agencies. If we can monitor one person’s 6 months usage of a computer, we can clearly profile that person’s character and lifestyle to predict future behavior. Their potential clients will be employers.

I never opened a Gmail account though they give higher storage to attract people.. They use programs to look through certain key words in the email.

Google isn't doing anything new...they've just climbed to the top of the mountain. Your information is no longer private once your traffic leaves your router....that first stop to navigate is your ISPs DNS servers. Ever crack open a DNS server and see how much information is inside of there?

Software that people install from their ISP to setup their internet connection...much of that puts a BHO in your browser.

I set at a meeting table with Google ad guys almost every Thursday....am well versed with their advertising and data mining methods. But the reality is, once you're on the internet, it's happening..unless you put on the big tin foil hat and surf via anonymous proxies. I don't worry about customized ads being fed to me, I have ad block plus running at the gateway, and in my browser. So ads don't bother me....most aren't there.

It's the safest, most secure big browser out there...by milestone! The sandbox feature is smart. How are most rogues spreading these days? Exploits in Flash, Java, Adobe PDF...and last year they added a special sandbox feature to run PDF and Flash in. I've yet to see a computer get roasted by a rogue when using Chrome. I've seen the rogues blast past FF and IE. Good stuff!

One can lose sleep and bite their fingernails worrying about any bit of software on their computer mining data and sending it home....there are bigger and more legit things to deal with.

Well said YOSC, I've been using Chrome since version 3 exclusively, now on version 9, and it is by far the fastest most secure browser I have ever used. If you are worried about privacy then honestly just stay off the internet. Every browser, search engine OS etc. tracks things, that's how they make money and make things better.

I use chrome. I like the built-in pdf viewer.

You can do the best you can at the end of the day to keep your system clean and mean... But I guess for browsers I prefer FF (as of right now). Can't wait for the full version of FF 4 to release... be a nice performance and security increase.

Sava700 wrote:Can't wait for the full version of FF 4 to release... be a nice performance and security increase.

at home I use:

Chrome
FF
IE
Safari

FF4 Beta 12 could release soon maybe even tomorrow, RC may hit late next week but FF now has a site up to reference what they are doing I guess as a joke back towards all those complaining about the full version not being ready yet.

http://canweshipyet.com/

FireFox 4 Beta 12 Released

http://www.mozilla.com/products/downloa ... lang=en-US

Next release will be the RC!

Of the 686 bugs fixed in Beta 12, the following improvements among others can be viewed below:

Increased performance while viewing Flash content;
Improved plugin compatibility with hardware acceleration enabled;
Hovering over links now displays the URL at the bottom of the window rather than in the location bar; and
General stability, performance, and compatibility improvements.

Yeah, just saw it on filehippo.

3.6.14 version released!

http://www.mozilla.com/products/downloa ... lang=en-US

FireFox 4.0 looks to be ready!!! According to this site they are ready to ship with 0 bugs left!! I expect a RC any day now with the full release no longer than a week from it.

http://canweshipyet.com/

RC1 is already out, just not public.

YARDofSTUF wrote:RC1 is already out, just not public.

Where?

http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla. ... b1338dd40#

Hello! Yesterday we ordered release candidate builds for Firefox 4, which have been duly produced and are now being validated by our QA team before we ship them to our beta audience. Once the release candidate is in the hands of our more than 3 million daily beta users, we expect to spend another period of time doing intense QA validation before ship. Please note: the release candidate represents the code we *intend to ship* as Firefox 4 - it is not yet validated and supported,

According to this and anywhere else I read there is no RC build yet for FF...soon but none yet.

FF 3.6.15 Released!!

http://www.mozilla.com/products/downloa ... lang=en-US

Sava700 wrote:FF 3.6.15 Released!!

http://www.mozilla.com/products/downloa ... lang=en-US

The ****? I just updated to .14 last night.

CableDude wrote:The ****? I just updated to .14 last night.

gotta keep up damnit!! lol yeah there was some java error that caused the quick update from the other day.

CableDude wrote:The ****? I just updated to .14 last night.

It does seem like they come out every other day.

Sava700 wrote:Where?

http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla. ... b1338dd40#



According to this and anywhere else I read there is no RC build yet for FF...soon but none yet.

It was on their FTP earlier.

YARDofSTUF wrote:It was on their FTP earlier.

That was a RC1 Build1 that shouldn't have been there.. internal build but pretty much nothing more than beta12. Yeah I saw it too.

No, it wasn't in the public section, there was a news article on it with a mozilla quote about it, its not the latest thing in google news anymore though.

Firefox 4 RC1 Released!

http://www.majorgeeks.com/Mozilla_Firef ... d5905.html

Sweet

Just got prompted for 3.5.18. I hope 3.6 does not have an update or I will be pissed.

CableDude wrote:Just got prompted for 3.5.18. I hope 3.6 does not have an update or I will be pissed.

yeah a update to 3.5.18 came out back on the 19th, I won't be throwing any updates on any version under FF4 since it's the most stable and secure of any past versions. No real reason to stay back considering it works better than the older versions.

CableDude wrote:Just got prompted for 3.5.18. I hope 3.6 does not have an update or I will be pissed.

I am at 3.6.18. Is that what you mean? I wont touch 4.0 until it gets its middle click fixed on bookkmarks toolbar for either folders or site solved.

24giovanni wrote:I am at 3.6.18. Is that what you mean? I wont touch 4.0 until it gets its middle click fixed on bookkmarks toolbar for either folders or site solved.

There isn't a issue with 4.0, I'm not having a lick of problems with it - I bet there is something else causing your problem.

Sava700 wrote:There isn't a issue with 4.0, I'm not having a lick of problems with it - I bet there is something else causing your problem.

A lot of ppl are having probs with it if u look at sites dealing with 4.0

24giovanni wrote:A lot of ppl are having probs with it if u look at sites dealing with 4.0

I go to a few diff hardware/software sites/forums and I don't see anyone having such issues they can't deal with with the new 4.0.

Sava700 wrote:I go to a few diff hardware/software sites/forums and I don't see anyone having such issues they can't deal with with the new 4.0.

Just 2 quick sites http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum ... 24468fdb16 look in other pages of this site

http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/home

Middle click bookmark feature is fine for me.

YARDofSTUF wrote:Middle click bookmark feature is fine for me.

ditto

well not for other problems as i showed in 2 quick links. Maybe u guys are luckly but there are plenty of others who are having issues.

24giovanni wrote:well not for other problems as i showed in 2 quick links. Maybe u guys are luckly but there are plenty of others who are having issues.

I'm willing to bet it's not a Firefox issue or it would be happening to everyone. It's most likely another app or whatever causing it...a add-on or something. If you went out and purchased a Ford Car and the tire fell off are you going to blame Ford or the guy that didn't put the tire on right?

24giovanni wrote:I am at 3.6.18. Is that what you mean? I wont touch 4.0 until it gets its middle click fixed on bookkmarks toolbar for either folders or site solved.

I mean 3.5.18. I am using 3.5.17 at home now. Going to make the switch to 4.0 soon. 3.6 does not have a new update thank god.

Sava700 wrote:I'm willing to bet it's not a Firefox issue or it would be happening to everyone. It's most likely another app or whatever causing it...a add-on or something. If you went out and purchased a Ford Car and the tire fell off are you going to blame Ford or the guy that didn't put the tire on right?

Sava, Why cant you accept there maybe issues with firefox version 4? Nothing is perfect. 4.0 could have flaws believe it or not.

Does anyone know if FF has an extension that will offer to translate a site like Chrome does?

CableDude wrote:Does anyone know if FF has an extension that will offer to translate a site like Chrome does?

Does chrome have a really good one?

24giovanni wrote:Sava, Why cant you accept there maybe issues with firefox version 4? Nothing is perfect. 4.0 could have flaws believe it or not.

I know there are flaws with it but you have to understand that the majority of flaws are not caused by Firefox.. usually a add-on, another application, windows errors are the likely causes. You have more problems with your system than anyone that I've ever read about, not that it's your fault but don't you think it's time to simplify the whole system with a fresh format, just Win7 install and drivers then ONLY run a few applications instead of pounding the system so full of crap that you don't have a clue what is going on? I'm more than willing to help you set it up properly as are many others here - you just have to ask