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Norm · Post by **Norm** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 5:16 pm

Threads get closed or deleted when a member insults someone directly, but it's ok for Mods.
And when a member has a differring opinion than the Mods, same thing happens.

IE:
https://www.speedguide.net/forums/ ... post447049

https://www.speedguide.net/forums/ ... adid=52012

And many other threads.

Why?
Are Mods above the rules?

mikemean · Post by **mikemean** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 5:20 pm

I would also like to know this.

The Devil · Post by **The Devil** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 5:23 pm

I'm not touching this one with a 10-foot post.

mouse · Post by **mouse** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 5:24 pm

No it is not okay to insult anyone. The thread that I took part in was closed and I have no idea who reopened it. I did however see a post that was directed at me and responded before Reclosing it. It was originally closed because of name calling between a few members.

The other thread was closed by someone else and if there is an issue with that I advise that you speak with the other mods or better yet Pm Philip.

Threads get closed and deleted around here in the best interest of the forum. Philip Deleted a thread yesterday and was call names by one of the members also. Again all that I can say is we do what we can to keep the forum without fights and flames.

Mouse

lurker · Post by **lurker** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 5:24 pm

I didnt read either thread so I dunno.

crazyman · Post by **crazyman** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 5:25 pm

I would'nt touch this one with The Devil's ten-foot post..

SeedOfChaos · Post by **SeedOfChaos** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 5:30 pm

I somewhat agree with what you have said Norm, but only somewhat. Of course, those posts you meant are subject to critical discussion. Maybe they should not have been posted.

But then, we all are human. We all make mistakes. We should not complain about each single one. I think that the mods are doing an overal good job here, so I will refrain from complaining here.

Ronald

Phantom-Vortex · Post by **Phantom-Vortex** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 5:30 pm

Should have a "area" or thread just for duken it out...FOR ADULTS ONLY, hehe j\k

JC · Post by JC » Wed Oct 17, 2001 5:47 pm

Originally posted by Phantom-Vortex
Should have a "area" or thread just for duken it out...FOR ADULTS ONLY, hehe j\k

Thats a great idea

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 5:49 pm

hey, can't win em all

there are just certain kind of threads that we can only let go so far

and yet there are certain kind of threads that we can't let be posted at all

just the way things is

ExarKun · Post by **ExarKun** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 5:50 pm

[Sarcasm Alert]
I Quote George Carlin on this one

It comes down to the yuppie mentality, ITS MINE GIVE IT TO ME!!!!, F*ck you it's not your's, so shut the f*uck up and stop bitching

Norm, I wonder about this for all website’s, and as much as I hate government, I hope the government will make the Internet unusable soon, its about time companies and people realize…

It’s not really yours after all

Just food for thought
have a good day folks

Cornbread · Post by **Cornbread** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 6:35 pm

Originally posted by Norm

Why?
Are Mods above the rules?

Just certain mods.

Cornbread · Post by **Cornbread** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 6:55 pm

your right norm...opinions are not allowed

a good example HERE .

why was this closed? it was called "mod" bashing, but really it was me stating my opinion, just like brent does in the religious and gay threads...but that is ok, because he is mod

.

gmcd33 · Post by **gmcd33** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:02 pm

And I am not allowed popcorn and instigations

(Unless I take them somewhere else)

crazyman · Post by **crazyman** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:03 pm

Originally posted by gmcd33
And I am not allowed popcorn and instigations

(Unless I take them somewhere else)

no,I think you were popcorn and I was instigations !...

Cornbread · Post by **Cornbread** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:05 pm

Originally posted by gmcd33
And I am not allowed popcorn and instigations

(Unless I take them somewhere else)

my thread should not have been closed, because it was my opinion, just like you guys had opinions in the thread, but we are not allowed to do that anymore.

next time you guys have popcorn let me know.

TheAntipop · Post by **TheAntipop** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:08 pm

isnt {R}eaper downhill or somebody like that?

Cornbread · Post by **Cornbread** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:09 pm

Originally posted by TheAntipop
isnt {R}eaper downhill or somebody like that?

cornbread....

TheAntipop · Post by **TheAntipop** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:09 pm

THATS IT!!!!!

just slipped my mind lol

gmcd33 · Post by **gmcd33** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:10 pm

Originally posted by {R}eaper

my thread should not have been closed, because it was my opinion, just like you guys had opinions in the thread, but we are not allowed to do that anymore.

next time you guys have popcorn let me know.

I agree. Whats wrong with espousing our opinions?

When Mouse said that the post in question was MOD BASHING, that was her opinion. Why is her opinion allowed but not ours?

Ummmm. Popcorn.

IranianHobo · Post by **IranianHobo** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:11 pm

Originally posted by gmcd33
And I am not allowed popcorn and instigations

(Unless I take them somewhere else)

But those are the fun part of these forums!!!!

Plus downhill was stilling comign with the popcorn.

Cornbread · Post by **Cornbread** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:12 pm

Originally posted by gmcd33

I agree. Whats wrong with espousing our opinions?

When Mouse said that the post in question was MOD BASHING, that was her opinion. Why is her opinion allowed but not ours?

Ummmm. Popcorn.

but its ok for mouse and brent to give their opinons about "gays", so in question, that is bashing mikemean, right?

popcorn, mmmm yum yum.

gmcd33 · Post by **gmcd33** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:12 pm

Originally posted by IranianHobo

But those are the fun part of these forums!!!! Plus downhill was stilling comign with the popcorn.

Your such an instigator!

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:15 pm

popcorn

I’d like to go with a story... but it just doesn’t feel right. Too serious in here. Time to go “thread hopping” and see what else is going on (bury that spam down deep)

dreww71 · Post by **dreww71** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:27 pm

Perhaps mods should refrain from posting personal opinions. That way they at least appear unbiased.

Jigga76 · Post by **Jigga76** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:32 pm

Originally posted by John
... and Norm, if this: https://www.speedguide.net/forums/ ... adid=52012 was posted at speedcorp it would definetly be closed and I think you would agree with me there.

That thread should have been removed not just closed. jeeze...

mouse · Post by **mouse** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:49 pm

The threads closed by me do not get closed because of opinions, they are closed for name calling. They also get closed for openly challenging a Moderator, If you have a problem with a mod it should be taken to philip. By publicly posting something directed to a mod it insights fights on the forum.

Philip does read all of the complaints and we are advised of our misconduct as moderators. We are not untouchable and do get reprimanded quite frequently.

Mouse

Post by **Philip** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:50 pm

Originally posted by gmcd33

I agree. Whats wrong with espousing our opinions?

When Mouse said that the post in question was MOD BASHING, that was her opinion. Why is her opinion allowed but not ours?

Ummmm. Popcorn.

Because mods are elected to act in SpeedGuide's best interest.

I've had a couple of calls from advertising agencies in the last month asking me to remove their banners from the Discussion Forums becuse of posts like this.

SpeedGuide is for discussing technical issues, maybe some fun in the general forum, but certainly not flame wars, name calling, offensive behavior or the like.

This is a moderated board, if you want unmoderated freedom you can always go face the spam and flame storms on usenet...

All this is not directed to gmcd33, I'm saying it to all of you in general.

aileron172 · Post by **aileron172** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:54 pm

Are there any guidelines set by the mods as to what threads are appropriate. This one was a bit over the line in my opinion https://www.speedguide.net/forums/ ... did=52012. Maybe guidelines need to be set on what is appropriate and what isn't appropriate to post. Just a thought

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:56 pm

Philip, do you think this pic posted by one, or 2 of the Mods here to insult another member is in the best interest of SG?

CoolJ · Post by **CoolJ** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:56 pm

Originally posted by Philip

I've had a couple of calls from advertising agencies in the last month asking me to remove their banners from the Discussion Forums becuse of posts like this.

Doh!!

I think everyone should chill out. If you think SG is bad your in for a surprise! This is the lowest flaming board Ive been on (cuz its well moderated) and Ive been on many other boards!

We JUST GOT are cool members back (Minir, Hell yes, Norm....etc)

Remember how mad/sad everyone was when they left? Lets not have a reoccurance

Immortal · Post by **Immortal** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 8:03 pm

Flame wars... it takes 2 or more to get the fire starting...

Sometimes I don't fully agree what some people say.... then I put in what I think... and if he comes back with a reasonable reason... sure I'd take it.. but if s/he say something insulting that's when I just don't respond no more..

Sometimes I just don't like how the mods close some of the threads... which is tottally alright... but I move on... can't always get things your way..

I'm happy the way things are..

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 8:11 pm

Originally posted by CoolJ

Doh!!

I think everyone should chill out. If you think SG is bad your in for a surprise! This is the lowest flaming board Ive been on (cuz its well moderated) and Ive been on many other boards!

We JUST GOT are cool members back (Minir, Hell yes, Norm....etc)

Remember how mad/sad everyone was when they left? Lets not have a reoccurance

Listen to this man. He speaks the truth.

BMED · Post by **BMED** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 8:13 pm

No comment at this time! I'll wait until page 15.

Cornbread · Post by **Cornbread** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 8:15 pm

Originally posted by Norm
Philip, do you think this pic posted by one, or 2 of the Mods here to insult another member is in the best interest of SG?

I was wondering the same thing, i guess advertisers like this sort of thing too.

aileron172 · Post by **aileron172** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 8:15 pm

This is my first forum board I have been on and I really enjoy it, look we all have opinions we need to respect each others opinions. I have seen some posts go over the line to where they are personal attacks. Nobody likes to get "flamed" and personal attacks should be avoided. Mods are here to make sure the petty name calling and flaming don't get out of hand. And I am all for that. Free speach is one thing calling someone names and personal attacks are another and no one want to be "flamed".

Bryan

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 8:22 pm

Originally posted by CoolJ

Doh!!

We JUST GOT are cool members back (Minir, Hell yes, Norm....etc)

Oh man... I got left out as a cool member (not that I'm back cuz I never left but...) CoolJ doesn't like me (that's okay... knock knock Neo)

IranianHobo · Post by **IranianHobo** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 8:23 pm

Originally posted by mouse
The threads closed by me do not get closed because of opinions, they are closed for name calling. They also get closed for openly challenging a Moderator, If you have a problem with a mod it should be taken to philip. By publicly posting something directed to a mod it insights fights on the forum.

Mouse

But if mods want to post thier opinions shouldnt we be allowed to challenge those opinions?

Mods can refute us, but we can't refute them?

Also should mods close threads in which they themselves have been active participents to the very end? Couldn't a mod ask another mod to review a thread they themselves would not feel compfortable editing?

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 8:23 pm

/me pukes all over this thread.

can i have some popcorn?

Amro

Closed.

Methinks the forums are social place too, so we will not be able to kill opinions and stuff, specially in the "general" forum

funky · Post by **funky** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 8:32 pm

Respect is all we need.. Tell Philip to invite a couple teachers here on SG and let them teach us some Respect.. Heck, We will even click a lot of the ads to get enough money to do this without Philip's pocket money.

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