Speed isn't that fast!

jpsimon · Post by **jpsimon** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:33 pm

I am using SBC Yahoo! DSL and my speed isn't too fast lately. I have tried using the Tweak tools on this site but they haven't helped one bit!! I am supposed to be getting the 768/128 Speed package but its not even near that speed. I hope someone can help me out, thanks!

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:47 pm

Welcome to Speedguide

, please read here & here so that we can properly help you, please read it carefully since it will most likely answer any questions you may have. If after reading it you still need help please post the answers to the questions at the top.

Road Runner · Post by **Road Runner** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 9:14 pm

Originally posted by jpsimon
I am using SBC Yahoo! DSL and my speed isn't too fast lately. I have tried using the Tweak tools on this site but they haven't helped one bit!! I am supposed to be getting the 768/128 Speed package but its not even near that speed. I hope someone can help me out, thanks!

Hey, What is your Telco? Check out the Links below to the different SBC Forums, which they have certified Techs who can check your line.

SBC - Pacific Bell Forum
SBC - Southwestern Bell Forum
SBC - Ameritech Forum
SBC - SNET Forum

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:11 am

DSL Broadband quit refering people to DSLR!! There are enough people who are confused and lost because of them. There are MANY qualified people here to help that KNOW what they are doing.

Road Runner · Post by **Road Runner** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:08 pm

Originally posted by mnosteele52
DSL Broadband quit refering people to DSLR!! There are enough people who are confused and lost because of them. There are MANY qualified people here to help that KNOW what they are doing.

So now when I try to help, I get put down? Reason I referred him is because they have OFFICIAL SBC Tech Suporrt there who can check his line.

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:29 pm

Originally posted by DSL Broadband
So now when I try to help, I get put down? Reason I referred him is because they have OFFICIAL SBC Tech Suporrt there who can check his line.

This is not the first time you referred someone to DSLR so don't act so innocent.

Road Runner · Post by **Road Runner** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:43 pm

Originally posted by mnosteele52
This is not the first time you referred someone to DSLR so don't act so innocent.

Who's acting innocent? I know I referred people to DSLR before, I just referred him because I said there is a OFFICIAL SBC SUPPORT TECH TEAM there. So stop trying to fight with me when I refer someone over to a forum on DSLR.

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:51 pm

Originally posted by DSL Broadband
So stop trying to fight with me when I refer someone over to a forum on DSLR.

I'll fight you every time, DSLR are MORONS PERIOD! Just because they have an "Official SBC Support Team" means absolutley positively NOTHING! The VAST majority of "tech support" people I have met or dealt with are clueless. If someone is asking for help here WE can help them with ANY problem they have, there is NO NEED to send them to a site where the mods and "gurus" are clueless and won't listen to logic or reason.

While we are on the subject of DSLR and since you are a card carrying member...... PLEASE and I beg you PLEASE have someone, anyone there show me just 1 setting in CableNut that is harmful to your pc? Everyone there always says CableNut is harmful but NEVER backs up what they say with ANY proof. Just one more reason NOT to listed to DSLR.

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:55 pm

Originally posted by mnosteele52
I'll fight you every time, DSLR are MORONS PERIOD! Just because they have an "Official SBC Support Team" means absolutley positively NOTHING! The VAST majority of "tech support" people I have met or dealt with are clueless. If someone is asking for help here WE can help them with ANY problem they have, there is NO NEED to send them to a site where the mods and "gurus" are clueless and won't listen to logic or reason.

While we are on the subject of DSLR and since you are a card carrying member...... PLEASE and I beg you PLEASE have someone, anyone there show me just 1 setting in CableNut that is harmful to your pc? Everyone there always says CableNut is harmful but NEVER backs up what they say with ANY proof. Just one more reason NOT to listed to DSLR.

ROFL

Road Runner · Post by **Road Runner** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:07 pm

Originally posted by mnosteele52
I'll fight you every time, DSLR are MORONS PERIOD! Just because they have an "Official SBC Support Team" means absolutley positively NOTHING! The VAST majority of "tech support" people I have met or dealt with are clueless. If someone is asking for help here WE can help them with ANY problem they have, there is NO NEED to send them to a site where the mods and "gurus" are clueless and won't listen to logic or reason.

While we are on the subject of DSLR and since you are a card carrying member...... PLEASE and I beg you PLEASE have someone, anyone there show me just 1 setting in CableNut that is harmful to your pc? Everyone there always says CableNut is harmful but NEVER backs up what they say with ANY proof. Just one more reason NOT to listed to DSLR.

Yeah Uh huh....Just because you have bad experiences there doesn't mean you have to stop me from referring people there because I've had a great experience there, nothing but good help in my eyes, and as for Cablenut harming the computer, Im not sure about that, the Mods there keep DSLR a nice environment, if they feel something needs to be locked or deleted they will do so, so like I said when I refer someone there stop fighting with me, just because you had 1 or 2 bad experiences there.

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:17 pm

Originally posted by DSL Broadband
Yeah Uh huh....Just because you have bad experiences there doesn't mean you have to stop me from referring people there because I've had a great experience there, nothing but good help in my eyes, and as for Cablenut harming the computer, Im not sure about that, the Mods there keep DSLR a nice environment, if they feel something needs to be locked or deleted they will do so, so like I said when I refer someone there stop fighting with me, just because you had 1 or 2 bad experiences there.

I think the point is people come to SG for help, Not DSLR. Do you think people there send people to SG. C-Mon, Competition. I'm sure this is something Philip and Ken would frown upon. Thats like the people at Best Buy telling customers to go to Circuit City. Questions can be answered here.

cyberskye · Post by **cyberskye** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:23 pm

Yeah Uh huh....Just because you have bad experiences there doesn't mean you have to stop me from referring people there because I've had a great experience there, nothing but good help in my eyes, and as for Cablenut harming the computer, Im not sure about that, the Mods there keep DSLR a nice environment, if they feel something needs to be locked or deleted they will do so, so like I said when I refer someone there stop fighting with me, just because you had 1 or 2 bad experiences there.

So why come here? I think DSLR should have to pay for their advertising like everyone else

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:24 pm

DSL Broadband you are missing the entire point.

1. WE can answer any questions here.

2. WE are open to new ideas and suggestions.

3. WE give accurate information that we can backup.

4. WE have a nice enviornment here, why go there?

It's not that I had a "bad experience", it's that they give out innacurate and conflicting information. They do not believe in the Microsoft TCP/IP White Papers (they contradict them all the time) and when you point out they contradict them they edit, delete or ignore what you posted..... not just me but anybody.

If you do not believe me I can find you thread after thread after thread there where they do so. The FAQ's there are innacurate and the Mods have an attitude.

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 3:01 pm

It's like steele said were always trying stuff what i like about sg and cablenut is that we share information about tweaking or anything else. If i had a new idea for cablenut which i might but still testing i would share it the thread wouldn't be locked

Why sell ur self short about tweaking /learning the whole point of learning is trial and error. I love how dlsrers love that dr.tcp and they bash the optimizer for hitting about the same keys. God forbid if we don't follow the dictator dr.tcp and try something our thread might be locked what bs.

jpsimon · Post by **jpsimon** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:06 pm

Yeah, I agree with DSL Broadband! I should be able to get Technical Support here and not be referred to DSL Reports. That was my whole point of posting here, to get help with my speed problem, not be directed back to where I went before and didn't get much help or was misguided in what to do. So now I hope someone can help me out on Speedguide and not direct me to anywhere else. Thanks!

j79zlr · Post by **j79zlr** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:17 pm

I am not a moderator here, nor am trying to be, but in my experience as one on other boards, most forums arent too keen on referrals to other forums.

DSL BB, I have never seen you actually help anyone, just refer them to DSL reports which is the exact opposite.

jpsimon, please do what mnosteele said in his initial reply, then WE can help you.

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 6:57 pm

Jp take a tcpip analyzer cut and paste everything bleow ipinformation we need to see mtu b4 anything else.

jpsimon · Post by **jpsimon** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 9:36 pm

OK, here's the requested info:

TCP options string = 020405860103030201010402
MTU = 1454
MTU is not fully optimized for broadband. Consider increasing your MTU to 1500 for better throughput.
MSS = 1414
MSS is not fully optimized for broadband (although it might work well for slower connections). Consider increasing your MTU value.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 256960
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 2 bits (scale factor of 4)
Unscaled Receive Window = 64240

For optimum performance, consider changing RWIN to a multiple of MSS.
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
520352 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 8)
260176 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 4)
130088 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 2)
65044 (MSS x 46)
bandwidth * delay product:

Your RcvWindow limits you to: 10278.4 kbps (1284.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 4111.36 kbps (513.92 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON
Time to live left = 53 hops

TTL value is ok.
Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF
Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON
IP type of service field (RFC1349) = 00000000

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 9:44 pm

Ok i thought so your mtu should be 1492 http://www.carricksolutions.com/enternet.php#27

when done take another analyzer just to make sure your mtu is set right.

27. How do I adjust the MTU size in EnterNet itself?

EnterNet sets a default MTU of 1454.
The Registry Key doesn't match exactly, but these instructions always seem to do the trick.
1) Go to "Start" menu -> Click "Run" -> Type "Regedt32.exe" -> Click "OK"
2) Go to this Registry Key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/ System/CurrentControlSet/
Services/Class /Net/000n/Ndi/ params/MaxFrameSize/"max" ....Where "n" is a number, but it will be a 00 number
3) Double click on "max" and change the value from 1454 to 1492.
4) Close RegEdit
5) Right Click on "Network Neighborhood" (My Network Places)
6) Choose "Properties"
7) Click on the PPPoE adapter (Efficient Networks)
8) Click "Properties"
9) Click "Advanced" tab
11) Click "Max Frame Size" -> Change to MTU you desire
12) Click "LCPMRU" -> Change to match the MTU you changed in step 11
13) Click "OK"
14) Done!

jpsimon · Post by **jpsimon** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 9:57 pm

I have a question about the Registry and the MTU. I was using the Registry Editor and there were like 3 places where it had the MTU in it. Is it supposed to be like that? I had to change it in 0003, 0006, 0007 and I think 0008. It was set to 1500 but I changed them all to 1492 since that is what I heard is the maximum it can be set to with the Enternet 300. Did I do that right? Please let me know, thanks!

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 9:59 pm

Yeah it sounds right reboot and take another analyzer when ur done

You want 1492

jpsimon · Post by **jpsimon** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 10:37 pm

OK, here's the TCP/IP Analzyer after the changes:

TCP options string = 020405ac0103030201010402
MTU = 1492
MTU is optimized for PPoE DSL broadband. If not, consider raising MTU to 1500 for optimal throughput.
MSS = 1452
MSS is optimized for PPPoE DSL broadband. If not, consider raising MTU to 1500 for maximum throughput.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 256960
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 2 bits (scale factor of 4)
Unscaled Receive Window = 64240

For optimum performance, consider changing RWIN to a multiple of MSS.
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
511104 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
255552 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
127776 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
63888 (MSS x 44)
bandwidth * delay product:

Your RcvWindow limits you to: 10278.4 kbps (1284.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 4111.36 kbps (513.92 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON
Time to live left = 53 hops

TTL value is ok.
Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF
Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON
IP type of service field (RFC1349) = 00000000

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:31 pm

Try the following in cablenut which is below me save to registry and reboot.

Make sure you network card is in 100fulltx ingore what it saids about half that applies to cable.

* Open Control Panel.
* Double-click Network.
* From the scrollable list, select your Ethernet adapter (rather than any dial-up) with a green icon.
* Click the button Properties.
* Click the tab Advanced to bring it to the front:
* In the Property box, the property name to be selected varies according to model of ethernet card. Examples are: Network Link Selection, Media Type, Connection Type, Duplex Mode, or any similarly-named property which can have Values looking like Auto-Negotiation, or 10BT, or 10BaseT.
* In the Value box, select a value which either (a) explicitly says half-duplex or semi-duplex, or (b) at least does not say full-duplex [e.g. 10BaseT on its own is OK]. If there is a choice between 10 and 100 with half-duplex, choose the 10. Do not choose 10Base5

BcastNameQueryCount - 1
BcastQueryTimeout - 100
BSDUrgent - 1
CacheTimeout - 600000
DefaultRecvWindow 63338
DefaultTTL - 64
EnableDNS - 0
GlobalMaxTcpWindoSize 6338
KeepAliveInterval - 500
KeepAliveTime - 14400000
Lanabase - 0
LocalCopyMade - 1
MaxConnections - 64
MaxConnectRetries - 5
MaxDataRetries - 99
NameTableSize - 255
NameSrvQueryTimeout - 100
PMTUBlackHoleDetect - 0
PMTUDiscovery - 1
RoutingBufSize - 146432
RoutingPackets - 100
SackOpts - 1
SessionKeepAlive - 7200
SessionTableSize -255
Size/Small/Medium/Large - 3
Tcp1323Opts - higher)
TcpTimedWaitDelay - 30
MaxDupAcks - 3
DefaultTOS - 92
IGMPLevel - 2
MaxConnectionsPer1_0Server - 20
MaxConnectionsPerServer - 10

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 5:24 am

wow..

nice smack down mno

jpsimon · Post by **jpsimon** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 5:29 am

I had a lot of trouble finding what you told me to change in the Network part of the Control Panel. I have so much stuff in there:

1. Dial-Up Adapter
2. AOL Adapter
3. Efficent Networks P.P.O.E. Adapter (NTSP3)
4. AOL Dial-Up Adapter
5. WAN Miniport (ATW)
6. Microsoft Virtual Private Networking Adapter
7. Dial-Up Adapter #2 (VPN Support)

I looked in several of the Network ones or the Ethernet but it was really confusing to me as I've never adjusted any of these settings before. Besides the MTU, so I hope you can help me out, thanks!

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 5:48 am

jpsimon get rid of AOHELL ASAP, it will cause more problems then ANY other single app. Even if you are not using it get rid of it, uninstall it then search the registry for left over junk. Also you might try the following settings in CableNut as well:

BcastNameQueryCount - 1
BcastQueryTimeout - 100
BSDUrgent - 1
CacheTimeout - 600000
DefaultRecvWindow - 31944
DefaultTTL - 128
EnableDNS - 0
GlobalMaxTcpWindoSize - 31944
KeepAliveInterval - 500
KeepAliveTime - 14400000
Lanabase - 0
LocalCopyMade - 1
MaxConnections - 100
MaxConnectRetries - 5
MaxDataRetries - 64
NameTableSize - 255
NameSrvQueryTimeout - 100
PMTUBlackHoleDetect - 0
PMTUDiscovery - 1
RoutingBufSize - 146432
RoutingPackets - 100
SackOpts - 1
SessionKeepAlive - 7200
SessionTableSize - 255
Size/Small/Medium/Large - 3
Tcp1323Opts - 0
TcpTimedWaitDelay - 30
MaxDupAcks - 3
DefaultTOS - 240
IGMPLevel - 2
MaxConnectionsPer1_0Server - 10
MaxConnectionsPerServer - 8

VERY IMPORTANT TO DO THE FOLLOWING

1. Under your Configuration tab for your Network settings make sure you have only the needed protocols.

2. Install the vtcp 386 patch and the NDIS Update from here.

3. Open IE and select tools - internet options - connections - LAN settings, make sure NOTHING there is checked.

4. ALWAYS connect your modem via ethernet (NIC) and make sure you have the latest drivers for your NIC from the manufacturer. Set your NIC duplex mode to 10mb half duplex for Cable, for DSL it is ISP dependent unless you are using a router, if so then set it to 100mb full duplex for both Cable & DSL (the instructions are in my Help & Tips link). If you are using a router make sure you have the latest firmware.

5. Clear your temporary internet files.

6. Power cycle your modem, unplug it for atleast 15 seconds.

7. Download and update then do a scan with SpyBot 1.2 & Ad Aware 6.0 to remove any spyware then install and update SpywareBlaster to stay spyware FREE. YOU MUST USE BOTH AD AWARE & SPYBOT TO ENSURE YOU ARE SPYWARE FREE SINCE ONE FINDS WHAT THE OTHER MISSES.

8. Make sure you do the faster web page tweak in my Help & Tips link.

9. If you have Zone Alarm as a firewall uninstall it then visit Zonelabs.com for further instructions on removing it's left over junk.

10. Install Outpost Firewall or Sygate Firewall, both have FREE and Pro versions and are heads above ZA.

11. Scan for viruses with your antivirus app, if you do not have one get one IMMEDIATELY, AVG 6.0 is an excellent FREE AV app.

12. Make sure you have ALL of the latest Windows Updates.

Once you have done all of the above please post another TCP/IP Analyzer test and speed test.

jpsimon · Post by **jpsimon** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 6:54 am

I'm still using AOL for now so I can't get rid of it, sorry! I tried two times to cancel it and the stupid Reps talked me into it by giving me more FREE time on it so I couldn't resist. Besides it has Newsgroups I can't get on my regular ISP so that's the best part, mainly but I do want to quit it as soon as I can. Also my System Resources are really LOW! I was looked at it when I was in the Device Manager and they were 11% FREE! How can I fix that problem? I'll try the new settings in Cable Nut and do whatever else you told me to do. I did switch to Sygate quite awhile ago after I noticed Zone Alarm was slowing the Web down quite a bit. I also had a problem with Internet Explorer 6 and also SP1 so I haven't gone back to them, kept slowing the Internet down, any reason why that would happen to me? I noticed the same problem on the SP1 or SP2 for IE 5.5 too so I just stick with 5.5 now, wish I could have a new version though.

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:41 am

low sys resources can be many things...

usually low amount of RAM
or to many apps running in the background..

how much RAM do you have?

jpsimon · Post by **jpsimon** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:54 am

I have 128 MB of SDRAM. I've upgraded it about two or three times from the original amount that came with this computer, 32 MB. I've thought about going up to 256 MB but haven't decided if it would be worth it or not.

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:04 am

128MB is enough to run 98 fine, 256 would be better bet 128 is more than enough. Reguarding AOHELL read this thread that Dannjr and I wrote here it will change your mind. As for your resources what do you have running in the background? All you need is your firewall and AV app, hit ctrl - alt - del and post what you find is running, we can help you narrow down what is causing the problem. Also you did scan for spyware with Ad Aware & SpyBot right?

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 4:31 pm

Also goto start menu run type ms config and delete things off of startup.

jpsimon · Post by **jpsimon** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 4:58 pm

Yeah I read your article about AOL. I actually did cancel it this morning. They said it wouldn't be officially closed until November 3rd which is the end of the billing cycle. I uninstalled it right away, took the stuff out of the Networking thing in the Control Panel. I took the things out of the registry too. Is there anything else that needs to be uninstalled or deleted?
Yeah I scan every week with Ad Aware but Spybot takes forever due to some Loop thing and I hate it so I don't use it much.

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 5:54 pm

jpsimon how is your speed with the above settings? Also please post what is running in the background using up all your resources.

jpsimon · Post by **jpsimon** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:12 pm

I have the following applications running in the background:

1. Explorer
2. Ccapp
3. Ypager
4. Enternet
5. Point32
6. Easykey
7. Systray
8. Msgtag

Please help me know what needs to be running and what doesn't but I do need some things that are listed here so I don't know if there's much to do. I have used MSCONFIG numerous times myself to turn things off that I don't need but it hasn't helped much with the system resources problem. Thanks for your help!

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:25 pm

All of those things are fine, they if that is all that is running it shouldn't be killing your resources. On a fresh boot what percentage of resources are free?

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:52 pm

Also did u scan for viruses lately there was alot of junk going around.

jpsimon · Post by **jpsimon** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 8:44 pm

No, I haven't scanned for viruses recently but it never finds anything anyhow when I do so I just think its a waste of time. It takes close to 30 minutes to do too so I hope you can see why I think that!!

jpsimon · Post by **jpsimon** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 8:52 pm

OK, I just did a fresh boot of the computer and the System Resources were 63% Free. Is that good or bad? Anything else I can do to improve them? Please answer, thanks!

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:03 pm

That's not good, you should be in the mid to upper 80% free on a fresh boot. I would suggest what mccoffee did, updaet your AV app and scan, then we can go from there.

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:50 pm

if you scan in dos it will go quicker if you need help with that let me know

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