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Pageing files

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Does anyone know the proper setting for the page file size ? I have Windows 2000 Pro with 512 Mb PC2700 RAM. I have read many conflicting articles. Some say to make them 1.5 x's the size of your RAM, some say they should be smaller for the initial and large for the max, and then some say they should be the same size. Whats your opinion ?
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Post by j79zlr »

Always set the pagefile's minimum size equal to the amount of RAM you have, regardless of what anyone says, XP addresses out memory on your hard disk even when it doesn't use it, that is why its necessary. Anyone who claims that they set theirs to zero and get a huge increase is either misinformed or lying. XP will page, no matter how much RAM you have, and whether you notice it or not. With 512MB I would say to set a min of 512 and max of 2GB. Large maximums never hurt, it wont use it unless it needs it.
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:D agree with j79zlr about his PageFile's settings recomendation for w2k ram=512

up to now you can find signs earier (few years old) abortive experiments eg:
----- acctualy noone recomend PF ~|= 0 for any winOS
in the past memory price had rapidly decrased
than after amount installed ram increased to 512 or even more
so in the past they were experiments with:
zero PF (not recomended) & ramdrive (no effective)
----- PFsize minimum equal maximum not recomended for: w2k & wXP & w2k+3
in w98 time - it was methode protection against fragmentation
----- PFsize minimum =1.5*RAM recomendation was good
but for RAMamount equal or less than ram128MB
+ but if much more ram is installed
:) see on mentioned j79zlr recomendation PFminimum equal RAM
+ or ram+12MB (a few recomended)
+ or for weak PC but with big ram
after two week observations maximum PF usage + 20MB
OTOH before !!! any prg's installation duble minimum edge

----- maximum PF edge - still no clear recomendations
same recomend huge maxPF edge - NOT me
who knows - I still did no find any argument
may be ... heheheheheh
PF a few3GB b|c exactly ~ 5%-10% value from 30GB
acording to ~ virtual system cache memory value...
not you - but yours OS's calculations: w2k & ram512 are as follow:
installed memory, ram 512MB so OS should be have virtual system cache memory = 31 872 MB
it means mentioned above ~30GB
31 872 = 128+ {[(512-16)/4]*64}
b|c 31 872 MB > 512 MB so both: cache extra memory & additional addresses are needed
- please forgive me above calculation is from manuals & forget about it
hehehehehe I still cannot cache the reason

so a few recomended PFmaximum = no more than 1.5 to 2*ram (eg for weak PC but with huge amount ram)

in this case succesfull experiments goals are:
PageFile speed-up and protection agaist fragmentation
but also check for minimum resources usage
++ PF on hdd: modern; fast; big data cache (buffer) acctualy up to 16MB & 7200 rpm

less important PF recomendations :
++ PF on separate partition on hdd with OS
BTW a very few recomend on edge of hdd plate
also BTW a very few recomend FAT file system patrition
also BTW a very few recomend on 4k clauster (as pages are 4k)
++ PF on second hdd (I hate such solution with removable drives)
and also BTW second hdd attached to different ribbon than OS's hdd

IMO there are also same imporant good tweaks:
:2cool: + see on page j79zlr http://j79zlr.homeunix.com/reg.php registry tweaks

BTW still is recomended (any winOS)
resident program to improve windows memory management
:cool: one from ram optymizers prgs I use http://www.freemem.de/files/fmemproen.exe FreeMem
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Post by SICMF »

Straight from the horses mouth.


Optimize PageFile
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Post by Andrzej »

:D heehehe ...Straight from the horses mouth...
I did not follow exactly
it about my post ???
or
yours link ??? hehehe
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Post by SICMF »

Originally posted by Andrzej
:D heehehe ...Straight from the horses mouth...
I did not follow exactly
it about my post ???
or
yours link ??? hehehe



LOL, My link. It's from Microsoft, straight out of the Knowledge Base. Something people should use alot more. Lot's of info. :)
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:D agree there is source knowledge.
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Post by Andrzej »

OTOH pf (pagefile's) management is not such important...

:D hierarchy of importance for internet connections:
+ the most important your CAPS (in kbps) latency (in ms)
ISP: cable or adsl depends on local both ability & quality
+ OS win: 2k; xp; 2k+3 are recomended (& equal)
+ up to ram512MB is worth the price
+ modern, fast HDD recomended
- CPU > 1000MHz is not such important
+ important is good NIC (network internal card) on PCI Ethernet card
----- it mean that any form USBmodem is NOT recomended
+ no aver special recomendations for adsl & cable modems
OTOH on market also modem&router&switch = 3 in one
+ signal interference protections are important for both wired or wireless LAN
for wireless also encoding
+ good router is recomended for home proposal:
nice; small; sillent; economic; ready for use & unattendable; relatively cheap
self protection;
the best PPPoE client;
internet connection sharing for local network (ICS) router with build-in switch
for gamers important is fast & low latency one

also
IMVHO in win 2k; xp; 2k+3 TCP/IP tweaking
is not such important as for w95.98.se.me
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Post by SICMF »

Originally posted by Andrzej
OTOH pf management is not such important...



What is OTOH PF Management? Just curious
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:D ...What is OTOH PF Management? Just curious...
LOL it is simply - bad english
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Originally posted by Andrzej
:D ...What is OTOH PF Management? Just curious...
LOL it is simply - bad english



LOL, Got ya. :)
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Post by Andrzej »

:D OK but specialy for you explanation was added hehehe
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Post by rcnoweis »

I have an athlon xp 1600
with win xp home
and the prog cacheman works well for me as far as the Pagefile
it is actually shareware but states tha tif you can't afford to register it it is ok o keep on using it

also I recommend Pagedefrag at systeminternals.com
to do what the name says

These work for me and I have been using then for quite awhile
but I am just a novie compared to others here
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Post by Andrzej »

:D agree
Cacheman 5.50 the best disk cache management tool
New build; 07/31/2003 Cacheman 5.5.0.30 has been released
dwl http://www.outertech.com/index.php?_cha ... 625c0a0788 Cacheman 5.5.0.30
Win9x/WinME/Win2k/WinXP
... This build will repair registry tweak settings
which have been damaged by other tweak programs
(wrong datatypes, values out of range etc)
...
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