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    A Look at Maxtor's D740X, and ATA-133 Nov 08, 2001, 07:00 AM
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    By: Dan Mepham

    In the last three years, we’ve progressed from the ATA-33 standard, to ATA-66, and now ATA-100. When ATA-33 (UDMA Mode 2) was introduced, there was little doubt that it would prove to be a performance-enhancing step. However when ATA-66, and most recently, ATA-100 arrived, many questioned their usefulness. With hard disks barely able to push the limits of ATA-33’s 33MB/s transfer capabilities, what was the use in moving to ATA-66 or 100? It would be like driving a Jalopy around a racetrack.

    Naturally, when Maxtor offered us the chance to evaluate its latest 7,200 RPM hard drive, featuring the new ATA-133 interface, we jumped at the chance. The D740X is Maxtor’s first 7,200 RPM release since its acquisition of Quantum a few months ago, and we’re eager to discover just what, if anything, Quantum’s IDE expertise has been able to do for Maxtor’s IDE lineup.
    http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/cont...ticle/1431.12/
    it's about 6 full pages long..

    the topic was borrowed from the last sentence in the conclusion..

    <edit> damn, I quoted part of teh conclusion instead of intro DOH

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    Does the RPM of the drive have much to do with the data transfer? I noticed more SCSI drives go up to like 15,000 RPM's or more....why doens't IDE go up as high? 7200 is the highest I've seen for IDE....

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    Originally posted by drdoug99
    Does the RPM of the drive have much to do with the data transfer? I noticed more SCSI drives go up to like 15,000 RPM's or more....why doens't IDE go up as high? 7200 is the highest I've seen for IDE....
    i remember seeing a WD that was 10k, but it was pulled off the market real quick, dunno much about why they dont go higher i assume its heat issues

    rpm i believe helps the seek time and sustained transfer rate but i'm unsure, just a guess

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    I think RPM helps improve, seek times and it might improve data transfer rates a bit..
    dunno..
    I have seen some 15k rpm SCSI drives, but really I dunno why the IDE Drives don't spin as fast..

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    It would be hard for me to get used to the thought of any piece of machinery running that fast all the time.

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    If it's standard on my next mobo purchase, then yes. I'll get myself an ATA-133 drive, if not then oh well.

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    We'll all be there. Its just a matter of time and money

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    Nop its not about money or time .
    We have all ready the RAID setups , the point is if you really need it or not .

    I do not believe that for opening windows aplications , we need that speed .

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    Originally posted by syncmaster
    Nop its not about money or time .
    We have all ready the RAID setups , the point is if you really need it or not .

    I do not believe that for opening windows aplications , we need that speed .
    lol MY WINDOWS LOADS IN 3 seconds.. but my games run dead slow... lmao

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    Originally posted by BaLa
    I think RPM helps improve, seek times and it might improve data transfer rates a bit..
    dunno..
    I have seen some 15k rpm SCSI drives, but really I dunno why the IDE Drives don't spin as fast..
    That´s the point: then only a few ppl would then buy a SCSI ... and not the cheaper/faster 15krpm and 8mb cache IDE drives!

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    Originally posted by YARDofSTUF


    lol MY WINDOWS LOADS IN 3 seconds.. but my games run dead slow... lmao
    With GAMES like 700 Megs , what you expect ?? hahahaha

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    Nothing is holding back IDE manufacturers from making drives with greater then 7,000 rpm, except greed....

    the whole point to IDE was price, keep the price down as much as possible, the more drives they can make for cheaper, the more they sell, to increase rotational speed increases price, something they are trying to get down on ide drives.... that's it in a nutshell

    increasing the rotational speed to say 10,000 rpm will give it a higher sustained rate and slightly faster access times.....
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    Whose greed though... the consumer or the company. I would lean more towards blaming the consumer on this issue.
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    Originally posted by onetrueday
    Whose greed though... the consumer or the company. I would lean more towards blaming the consumer on this issue.
    I do that all ready , for the Geforce 3 , for the DDR memorys, for XP windows , for the AMD madnes , and some more .

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    There is this one HD that boots Windows in like a second. It's not a SCSI interface though, something more advanced. Costs as much as a Lamborghini though. There are people who have servers with 15-way SCSI RAID which is much faster than the normal (0+1).

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    I can't wait for Solid State harddrives to become mainstream..(do they even make em yet?)

    think about it...
    by that time it should be 200+ gigs
    SOLID STATE ....
    that would be hella fast but I guess by then it wont be special..
    cause you're gonna have like a 500x CD-ROM (lmao)
    30+ gig Procs
    400+ gigs HD Space
    3 gigs o' ram or more...
    damn can't wait..

    I hope I'm still alive to see something like that..

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    Its the first time in the forums that i can not reply ,with a logical explanation ..
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    ...and a 320mm fan running at 700,640 RPM making a 5.2dba sound level...... yes, that'll be the day.....

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    haha
    you forget, that if you were using solid state hard drives, it there would be a lot less heat..

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    I like the idea about going under sub zero temperatures....

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