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    TV audio question

    Finally picked up a 55" flat screen TV.

    I have my Blu-Ray video hooked up to the TV using s-video cable.

    Have the Blu-Ray hooked up with RCA cables to my (old) stereo receiver and eventually the stereo speakers and sub-woofer.
    Receiver does not have HDMI.

    When I watch Blu-Ray, I get audio from the stereo speakers and sub.

    When I watch Netflix or USB movies, I only get audio from the TV speakers.

    Do I have options for streamed/USB audio besides a long RCA cable from the TV to the receiver?

    I'm planning on getting an HDMI cable from the Blu-Ray to the TV to replace the S-video, but that will only carry sound and video to the TV, correct?

    I'm wondering if the HDMI cable would carry audio to the Blu-Ray, then the Blu-Ray audio to the stereo via RCA.

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    Do I need an HDMI audio extractor?

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    Guessing I can keep things the way they are and get long RCA cables from TV to receiver with a bit of sound degradation.

    Get a TV>Blu-Ray HDMI and see if it carries the audio from the BR to receiver via RCA.

    Get a TV>Blu-Ray HDMI and an HDMI digital to analog converter, and RCA cables.


    Get a TV>Blu-Ray optical audio and an optical audio to analog converter, and RCA cables.

    Any other suggestions appreciated.

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    Run HDMI from Blu-Ray > TV. Then, if the TV has a digital or optical out, I would run the TV's digital/optical out to your receiver's digital/optical in (if it has one). Even if it's an older model (receiver) it should have a coaxial digital in. Somewhere in a sub menu on your TV there should be the option to pick either the TV's internal speakers or the Receiver's.

    if you need cables, buy from Monoprice.

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    The issue is that with many sources, they only output audio via one "best" output, i.e. hdmi let's say in your case to the TV. That' why, if you don't have hdmi on the receiver, you'll have to get audio "monitor" out from the TV, as Easto suggests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easto View Post
    Run HDMI from Blu-Ray > TV. Then, if the TV has a digital or optical out, I would run the TV's digital/optical out to your receiver's digital/optical in (if it has one). Even if it's an older model (receiver) it should have a coaxial digital in. Somewhere in a sub menu on your TV there should be the option to pick either the TV's internal speakers or the Receiver's.

    if you need cables, buy from Monoprice.
    Receiver does not have digital or optical in.

    It has coaxial in, but no reference to digital. Talking 1993 Yamaha here.

    The only coax on the TV is COAX in.

    Only audio output is optical audio.

    Thinking of getting a DAC Digital to Analog Converter, that would take the optical audio and convert it to RCA, but it looks like most of those don't even support 5.1.

    F*ck it. Despite having 3 sets of speaks and 4 sub-woofers...should I just buy a damn sound bar?

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    The Blu-Ray player does have optical in/out.

    If I had the Blu-Ray hooked to the TV via HDMI, and an optical audio cable from Blu-Ray to TV also...would the audio be transmitted from the TV>the Blu-Ray>the receiver RCA audio out?

    Thanks.

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    Recap...

    New TV only has optical audio out.

    Old receiver only has RCA and old school co-axial input.

    Blu_Ray is hooked up to receiver via RCA and sounds good.

    TV playing streaming or USB media is using TV speakers that suck.

    Options for getting the TV audio to the receiver?

    1) DAC Digital to Analog Converter

    2) Some people say the Blu-Ray can receive and pass on the audio to the receiver...true?
    If so, is that via HDMI or just the optical audio?

    Thanks for the suggestions.

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    If get a new receiver be sure to get one with hdmi pass through. All devices would connect to the receiver via hdmi and the receiver's hdmi pass through port connects to the tv. The receiver will then pass all video and audio to the tv, and the tv will pass all audio through the receiver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humboldt View Post
    The Blu-Ray player does have optical in/out.

    If I had the Blu-Ray hooked to the TV via HDMI, and an optical audio cable from Blu-Ray to TV also...would the audio be transmitted from the TV>the Blu-Ray>the receiver RCA audio out?

    Thanks.
    Doesn't the TV have RCA out? The Blu-Ray will not accept audio back in, just treat it as a source.

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    To be honest. I was in the same position as you about 2 years ago and is just said "screw it" and went to Best Buy and bought a new receiver that had all the connections I needed. I think it was under $200.

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    What Tony T said. The last a/v install I did had HDMI pass-through on the receiver, the audio system SHOULD be the base unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easto View Post
    Run HDMI from Blu-Ray > TV. Then, if the TV has a digital or optical out, I would run the TV's digital/optical out to your receiver's digital/optical in (if it has one). Even if it's an older model (receiver) it should have a coaxial digital in. Somewhere in a sub menu on your TV there should be the option to pick either the TV's internal speakers or the Receiver's.

    if you need cables, buy from Monoprice.
    I'm doing this exact same thing with the exception that my audio out on my Sharp 65" is a 3.5mm audio out that splits to RCA jacks which plug into my Yamaha receiver (probably the same year as yours or very close). Sounds good too (because it's Yamaha)
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    Yamaha receivers are great, I've had a couple as well. I did move over to an HDMI one a few years back though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyT View Post
    If get a new receiver be sure to get one with hdmi pass through. All devices would connect to the receiver via hdmi and the receiver's hdmi pass through port connects to the tv. The receiver will then pass all video and audio to the tv, and the tv will pass all audio through the receiver.
    http://www.samsung.com/au/support/tv...-pass-through/
    Love my receiver. Yamaha solid state.

    Not the downhill audiophile... a $20 optical cable and DAC will work fine for me.

    Does sound sweet though, no pun intended.

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    Nope. Makes me feel old damnit.

    Just optical audio out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easto View Post
    To be honest. I was in the same position as you about 2 years ago and is just said "screw it" and went to Best Buy and bought a new receiver that had all the connections I needed. I think it was under $200.
    Tempting , but I love the one I have. History and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastchevy View Post
    I'm doing this exact same thing with the exception that my audio out on my Sharp 65" is a 3.5mm audio out that splits to RCA jacks which plug into my Yamaha receiver (probably the same year as yours or very close). Sounds good too (because it's Yamaha)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humboldt View Post
    Tempting , but I love the one I have. History and all.
    I understand. I have several pieces of audio gear that my wife can't figure out why I'm still hanging onto them. But honestly, move that gear into a bedroom or den and use the new stuff with the TV. It gives you a reason to go out and purchase new gear! Check CL, you can get a HDMI enabled receiver for nothing.

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    I bought a really nice Yamaha RX in 1994 while living in Japan. I used it for home theater until it drove me nuts! It is now in the basement with a TV and turntable connected. After 24 years, it still sounds terrific, but I needed those HDMI and pass-through due to cable box, chromecast, firestick, Blu-ray, etc.. Bought a $249 Denon and it works great.
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