Reply With Quotewell,I will say one thing about Trump,how can he **** it up any worse than Obama has ?
Trump huh lol.
Well guess I have to make a decision quick.
With my green card expiring this year...
He might try to deport me after all all Germans are Nazis.
well,I will say one thing about Trump,how can he **** it up any worse than Obama has ?
Guess we will just have to wait and see.Originally Posted by Dan
Due to the great system..
Cali..is a lock for the Democrats
I can't vote myself
All I know about Trump is this.
He will be GREAT at everything.
I hear that a lot. Despite the most do nothing congress in history... who have attempted to thwart anything he wants to accomplish unemployment is at 5 percent or so. Arguably that's a lot of low paying jobs but a feat non the less with a congress who refused to pay any jobs bills. We are out of Iraq but some might argue that was too soon. We are still struggling with the aftermath of a war we shouldn't have been in and he inherited.
There are lots of other decisions and accomplishments over the last seven years as being of great importance , like the nuclear agreement with Iran, new Wall Street regulations, the normalization of relations with Cuba, saving the American auto industry, ordering the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, ending discrimination against gays in the military and pushing for the legalization of same-sex marriage, and without a major scandal.
Again with a congress and especially a house that McConnell said they would oppose him on everything he wanted from day one. That's what he's had to put up with besides a Wall Street and super rich like the Koch brothers who have also opposed anything he's wanted to get done. For them Dan it's not about making the middle class better or our roads or electrical grid or fixing bridges.. it's about them making more money and that's it.
The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, and prejudices to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own for the children and the children yet unborn and the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone.
Dan don't forget Obama had to clean up the major mess that G Dubya left behind! remember 2008?
I was going to post a link to that thread, but the SG search results for "bullsh|t" were too numerous
sometimes you have to think outside the box to get inside the box.
How about that Trump guy! Remember when Sara Palin was the nutty one? Good times
The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, and prejudices to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own for the children and the children yet unborn and the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone.
All I know is that I have to vote. I am NOT voting for Hillary.
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When I get dragged into political discussions with my friends, which I hate, it seems it's a choice between the lesser of evils.
That said, I know no one voting for him.
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..., it seems it's a choice between the lesser of evils.
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Each election...this seems to be more and more the case.
Decades ago it used to be a good competition...and you'd weight the benefits of each candidate.
and it slowly evolved with each election race into the we have now....it's so sad to have to thing "which is less evil than the other, which will do the LEAST damage?"
While I historically lean Republican in values, I've voted for, and enjoyed, some of the Democatric presidents we've had. I'm a firm believer that it's best for the country overall, in the long run, to alternate Rep and Dem POTUS. Keeps things "even" overall, instead of leaning too far in one direction if we'd have the same party term after term after term.
But this years candidates are simply too horrible. She Clinton is a career politician that really defines "the establishment, bought, behind the scenes deals purely for $ gain. Envelopes stuffed with money buy her and drive her decisions, not what is best for the country. And Trump...he's just a loose canon...while I agree with many of his ideas, yeah..he's just a loose canon. And his mouth and attitude will get us into more trouble than what some of the good ideas he's telling us, if they come to fruition, will actually do. (because he knows what America wants to hear).
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Things can always get worst.
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Stephen Hawking
I agree with most of what YeOldeStonecat said.. and despite all that I believe we still have to vote, otherwise our views don't count for anything and we just end up supporting the status quo.
Some might argue that voting for someone you don't want in the office is supporting the status quo.
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Stephen Hawking
Voting only works when you have adequate available options, but when you only have the choice of trash pile A or trash pile B, then your vote is pointless, and it is essentially a rigged election.
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Stephen Hawking
It is always pile A or pile B, granted, with variable degree of like/dislike.
There are SO MANY replies here that I could quote and dissect, so in the interest of keeping it somewhat brief....
Our 2 choices for the next leader of the country are almost as bad as the '08 choices. Almost. Killery is an Ovomit puppet, and electing her would only exacerbate the horrific state of the nation thanks to that treasonous filth who squats in our White House now. She is a criminal, plain and simple, and has zero business even throwing her hat in the ring. I can not wrap my mind around why the Feds haven't arrested her and charged her with the numerous crimes she's committed, ever since Watergate.
Personally, (this is going to set a few people off, but it's what I believe) at this point, I don't think any woman should be POTUS. One bad bout of PMS and we'll have WWIII on our hands. Women react with their emotions, men do not, and to me, that is a recipe for disaster for our nation.
But Trump? Cripes....he may not be a criminal, but I don't believe he has what it takes to run this country, either. I loved most of what he said when he began his campaign, but he hasn't toned down his rhetoric; he hasn't learned how to speak to the public as a president should speak, and I believe he is too arrogant to recognize that inability or correct it.
That just brushes the tip of the iceberg regarding my opinion of the 2 "choices" we have for our next POTUS.
"Women react with their emotions, men do not"
That is just simply untrue. In fact I find that men react their with emotions far more often then women, and when they do, the are generally more aggressive, and more likely to start a fight.
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Stephen Hawking
And I feel that is a pattern we need to break.
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Stephen Hawking
That is just simply untrue in your opinion. I have seen what I stated far more frequently than what you say. As far as which gender is more aggressive and likely to start a fight, you've apparently never been around any of my friends, cuz that is simply not true in my opinion. And in my experience.
But even though I don't agree with your opinion, I will fight to the death for your right to have and speak it.
And this we can agree wholeheartedly on.
"That is just simply untrue in your opinion."That is just simply untrue in your opinion. I have seen what I stated far more frequently than what you say. As far as which gender is more aggressive and likely to start a fight, you've apparently never been around any of my friends, cuz that is simply not true in my opinion. And in my experience.
But even though I don't agree with your opinion, I will fight to the death for your right to have and speak it.
And this we can agree wholeheartedly on.
Men reacting emotionally is far more than just my opinion. Men react emotionally all the time, and most of the time its in some stupid testosterone filled flex of their ego.
"which gender is more aggressive"
98% of all violent crime in the US is committed by men. This is not an opinion, men are just naturally more aggressive then women
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"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Stephen Hawking
Now this statement I definitely need something to back it up. Or is this going too far off topic?
I didn't think we were talking about violent crime. I have some stats of my own in regard to violent crime but they don't belong in this thread. And judging by your sig line, I don't think you'd like them much.
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