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    if Trump is elected president ?

    I will be forced to question the deteriorating intelligence of Americans

    I was going to post a link to that thread, but the SG search results for "bullsh|t" were too numerous

    sometimes you have to think outside the box to get inside the box .

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    Well, they fell for Obama's crap twice so it wouldn't surprise me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy View Post
    I will be forced to question the deteriorating intelligence of Americans
    I get the impression that you are against Trumpt, but by the wording of your post you are actually saying that if Trumpt is elected you'll see that as a reason to doubt if Americans really have a deteriorating intelligence.

    So are you for, or against Trumpt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyboycool View Post
    I get the impression that you are against Trumpt, but by the wording of your post you are actually saying that if Trumpt is elected you'll see that as a reason to doubt if Americans really have a deteriorating intelligence.

    So are you for, or against Trumpt?
    Eh...
    It's an ambiguous statement that can be read either way if you try hard enough, given the wording. You're just pushing buttons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humboldt View Post
    Eh...
    It's an ambiguous statement that can be read either way if you try hard enough, given the wording. You're just pushing buttons
    If I was just pushing buttons, I would have said something about the title as well. Is it a question or a statement? But please, let's continue on with the deteriorating intelligence of Americans. I blame it on a lack of effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyboycool View Post
    I get the impression that you are against Trumpt, but by the wording of your post you are actually saying that if Trumpt is elected you'll see that as a reason to doubt if Americans really have a deteriorating intelligence.

    So are you for, or against Trumpt?
    who is Trumpt?

    I was going to post a link to that thread, but the SG search results for "bullsh|t" were too numerous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy View Post
    who is Trumpt?

    One guess.

    <hint>He's being witty</hint>

    Pray to whatever he's right.

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    Whoever is elected I bet Keystone tries to push their pipeline again. Seeing how Obama will no longer be there to veto it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyboycool View Post
    Whoever is elected I bet Keystone tries to push their pipeline again. Seeing how Obama will no longer be there to veto it.
    The Koch brothers will see to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyboycool View Post
    Whoever is elected I bet Keystone tries to push their pipeline again. Seeing how Obama will no longer be there to veto it.
    I can't figure out why people would rather see oil shipped by rail than a pipeline. Those refineries in Texas need heavy oil and one way or another they are going to get it.

    Far fewer accidents by pipeline than by car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklab View Post
    I can't figure out why people would rather see oil shipped by rail than a pipeline. Those refineries in Texas need heavy oil and one way or another they are going to get it.

    Far fewer accidents by pipeline than by car.
    Well, it is not all about how oil is shipped. Most the oil will not go to America, as it is just being shipped through America, so that it can be sold elsewhere. The jobs it will create are being grossly over-hyped, and most will only be temporary. The actual gains to America for building this pipeline across our entire country, is minimal. But in the process of doing that it will cause several ranchers, farmers, and regular hardworking folk to surrender their land. President Obama; however, did not veto it for those reasons, as I understand it, he vetoed it because the gains are not all that great, yet there are significant risks and environmental concerns.

    My main objection to the whole thing is the problem with the Sioux. The pipeline goes directly through Sioux land. Land that is suppose to be protected by treaties signed in the 1800s, treaties that the American government seems to conveniently forget about whenever it is a minor problem for them. This is Siouxland, it does not belong to the US, and they can't just build a pipeline through it. In fact legally it constitutes an act of war, yet the American government has failed to uphold this treaty time and time again.

    Eminent domain does not apply here, and the treaty forbids any use of that land by the US without Sioux permission. But, and this is the kicker, both the House and Congress approved the building of the pipeline without even talking to the Sioux. They didn't even contact them, at all, and that is the part that really pissed the Sioux people off. The Sioux made a public announcement that they considered this an act of war, and the part they were most upset over, was that the US government didnít even talk to them. The Sioux is a sovereign nation, and the American government can not legally decide to build on their land without their permission.

    So you see my problems with it is not so much focused on what we stand to gain, or what the impact on the environment is, but with the people that are being trampled over to build this pipeline. The building of the pipeline, as it is currently planned is not legal, and it is not ethical. If they build this pipeline, then many people in the path of it will get screwed, and if they don't change their plans for the path of the pipeline, once again the US government will be responsible for stealing Native American land. I just can not wrap my head around the idea of taking more land from the Native Americans, and I am just flabbergasted that both the House and Congress approved it without even considering the Sioux.
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    Donald Trump just likes all the hype he is creating. God forbid he becomes our next President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debbie View Post
    Donald Trump just likes all the hype he is creating. God forbid he becomes our next President.
    Agreed.
    Obviously he's smart and talented at what he does, morals aside, but if he gets anywhere close to being elected I'll be f*cking ashamed.

    Have you looked at the demographics of who supports him?
    It's not the wealthy morons, exceptions excluded of course.

    Nor is it the educated.

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    Really don't think we have to worry about it.
    He's got the giant hurdle of getting ahead of round 3 Bush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YeOldeStonecat View Post
    Really don't think we have to worry about it.
    Exactly. Even entertaining the idea I find silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easto View Post
    Exactly. Even entertaining the idea I find silly.
    I think his upper seat in the polls now...is simply because people like the idea of "shaking up" things...sending a message to the regular politicians/candidates, and he represents that....albeit in a clumsy manner.
    But when it comes down to getting serious, and the actual nomination...and then votes...people will distance themselves from him.

    Although I enjoy his jabs at the others, and briefly enjoy the idea of such an outsider...non-politician at the helm, I'd rather see Fiona Carly at the helm over Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YeOldeStonecat View Post
    I think his upper seat in the polls now...is simply because people like the idea of "shaking up" things...sending a message to the regular politicians/candidates, and he represents that....albeit in a clumsy manner.
    But when it comes down to getting serious, and the actual nomination...and then votes...people will distance themselves from him.

    Although I enjoy his jabs at the others, and briefly enjoy the idea of such an outsider...non-politician at the helm, I'd rather see Fiona Carly at the helm over Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeOldeStonecat View Post
    Really don't think we have to worry about it.
    He's got the giant hurdle of getting ahead of round 3 Bush.
    Give me Trumpt over Jeb any day of the week!

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    I'm still reading up on the backgrounds of the other candidates and what they have voted/supported on in their political careers, but I find myself leaning towards Bernie Sanders. He has been consistent on the issues from Mayor, to Congress, and now U.S. Senator.

    As for Hillary Clinton, if people vote for this witch, you know they did not do their homework or they are just plain brain dead. She will kill us in more ways than you can imagine.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...illary-clinton

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary...nsanto/5450985
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    It's fun though to watch those that love him. It really makes them stand out.. They are the Morton Downy Jr. crowd..looking for answers and someone to look up too , and lacking in any meaningful curiosity to figure out how Congress or even state legislators work or the truth of such matters from Watergate to the new Hilliary scandel. They love a good rumor and the real truth of things isn't a part of any of it.
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