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    David, it was my understanding that the first gen Zambezi was great at video editing n stuff, crunching numbers but that was it. I dont know how true it is but i was told that a phenom could out perform it. Amd was supposed to go back and see what the flaws were and supposedly come out with v 2.0. All of this is unsubstantiated
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    Its great with video editing because that can use all 8 cores. Games wont make use of them all. The flaws are basically that the Bulldozer line is built to offer newer instruction sets, and if things don't use them, there is no advantage, its not like there was an error in the design, its just they way they went.

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    The cores are less efficient than that of the sandy bridge, plus the built in GPU transcodes video like a monster.

    You are correct, the hex core phenoms did outperform the 8 core dozer.

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    Now i am even more confused... I have been looking into the second gen APU's from amd trinity chipset.
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    I often wonder if the voices in my head ever get frustrated because I'm just too damn lazy to climb that clock tower.
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    Piledriver is due out soon, which might very well be an improvement on the bulldozer. The Ivy bridge, though not the overclocking monsters, have an upgraded on chip GPU which transcodes roughly 20% better than the Sandy bridge.

    It rightly depends on what you want of your system.

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    i scrapped my original idea and pulled the trigger on this build... I wanted to get back into the meat and potatoes of something new... the APU has piqued that... It seemed like the other setup was just ooh hey, ive got the biggest numbers yada yada yada. i really want to get into this and see what possibilities there are to be had here. Plus its a bit cheaper lol


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    I may have run into a tiny snag...I recieved all my parts today and well the "hard drive" is not what i expected...
    Im not surewhat to do with this lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastid View Post
    I may have run into a tiny snag...I recieved all my parts today and well the "hard drive" is not what i expected...
    Im not surewhat to do with this lol

    isn't that one of those drives that go onto the mobo for cache, like Intel Smart Response technology ?

    i would get a larger SSD anyways, you can get SSD's now for almost 50 cents per GB now

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    mSATA. For laptops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YARDofSTUF View Post
    mSATA. For laptops.
    oh, i learned something new

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    I was just going to put the OS on it so it didnt need to be huge... So, is there a way i can use this in my current build?
    Every normal man must be tempted at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
    I often wonder if the voices in my head ever get frustrated because I'm just too damn lazy to climb that clock tower.
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    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812186184


    I guess you would want something like that. Not sure if that would work with your SSD or not.

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    I did find a few more things that should work at http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...sata%20adapter
    I ordered this: http://www.amazon.com/OKEBA-Mini-mSA...=msata+adapter I think it should do what i want it to... thank you for the assist, i was very tired and frustrated(long day)
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    Some motherboards will support m-sata using the PCI-E slot, usually the 4x slot. Cant hurt to try as they are electrically compatible so you wont break anything

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    I thought mSATA and the PCIe slots were "wired" differently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YARDofSTUF View Post
    I thought mSATA and the PCIe slots were "wired" differently?
    from wiki

    "The connector is similar in appearance to a PCI Express Mini Card interface,[28] and is electrically compatible; however, the data signals (TX/RX SATA, PETn0 PETp0 PERn0 PERp0 PCI-express) need connection to the SATA host controller instead of the PCI-express host controller"

    So it depends on the MB

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    So, is Crisis still the game to benchmark by?
    Every normal man must be tempted at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
    I often wonder if the voices in my head ever get frustrated because I'm just too damn lazy to climb that clock tower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastid View Post
    So, is Crisis still the game to benchmark by?
    BF3 or Skyrim would be my choices.

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    I realize it's a little late to weigh in on the SSD advice, but I just put a Samsung 830 in my MacBook and I'm in love with it! The 256GB versions can be had for around $170 right now. From what I've read, the Samsung's are pretty reliable.

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    You tube?, puking into it while drinking WD40....it's the spat that makes a rig, not the nuanncances.

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