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    SSD & GFX recomendations

    Hello,
    Final parts I need for my current build.

    Specs:
    Xeon W3530 @ 2.8 (quad core w/ HT )
    12 gigs DDR3 (6x 2gig PC-10600)
    GeForce GT 430 Oc'ed
    2x dell 19" ultra sharps


    Just need recommendations on a semi decent GFX card and an SSD brands, Looking @ 120 gig on the SSD. My board only supports SATA II, So I'm guessing the super super crazy fast SSD are over kill. Looking to spend a few hundred.

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    Just snages 2x of these

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc..._-20227791-L0F

    OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-128G 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

    for raid-0

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    Intel or Crucial M. Nothing else, period!
    Especially...yuck..OCZ...couldn't pay me to use any of their stuff.

    Purpose of this machine? RAID 0 will be shooting yourself in the foot, especially with the exceptionally high failure rate of SSDs.
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    I agree with YOSC on the SSDs, that's what I ever buy as well. I have both Intel and Crucial M4, couldn't be happier.
    I'd also add Samsung 830 series to the list though.

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    I was under the impression OCZ was good stuff :-( The review where very nice. Well, I'm going to stick with them, Cheap. As far as the Raid-0, I'm ok with that, acronis does a full backup nightly to an external 2TB, and I have folder redirects enabled thru GP and they redirect tot he servers raid 5 that get backed up offsite. So not scared on data loss. Will keep in mind next purchase.

    Now what about GFX card? I have an intel board, dual PCI-E x16 (SLI maybe) but 1 card should be fine

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    i have been running raid-0 SSD for over a year now no troubles what so ever, i do have true image makeing images every week just in case though.

    running some older corsair drives that were a good deal at the time, but man those new drives are so much faster and the prices have really come down, that i am looking at a 256GB single drive maybe.

    not sure on whats good for GFX cards these days
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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidpete View Post
    Cheap. As far as the Raid-0, I'm ok with that, acronis does a full backup nightly to an external 2TB, and I have folder redirects enabled thru GP and they redirect tot he servers raid 5 that get backed up offsite.
    Now what about GFX card? I have an intel board, dual PCI-E x16 (SLI maybe) but 1 card should be fine
    Still hard to make a recommendation on what GFX and hard drive setup without knowing the purpose of this computer.
    For some blondie to run MS Word?
    Some engineer to run a design software like SolidWorks?
    Some brunette to enter payroll in ADP or Quickbooks?
    Some gaming rig?
    Graphics designer in the marketing department?
    Video editing workstation using Pinnacle Studio?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    i have been running raid-0 SSD for over a year now no troubles what so ever, i do have true image makeing images every week just in case though.

    running some older corsair drives that were a good deal at the time, but man those new drives are so much faster and the prices have really come down, that i am looking at a 256GB single drive maybe.

    not sure on whats good for GFX cards these days
    Thanks for the input, the one time I need GFX recommendations, Brent is not around. Yes I said it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeOldeStonecat View Post
    Still hard to make a recommendation on what GFX and hard drive setup without knowing the purpose of this computer.
    For some blondie to run MS Word?
    Some engineer to run a design software like SolidWorks?
    Some brunette to enter payroll in ADP or Quickbooks?
    Some gaming rig?
    Graphics designer in the marketing department?
    Video editing workstation using Pinnacle Studio?
    Its my general Desktop, I purchased a 3d printer, So I haev been messing around with cad rhino solidworks, I so some very light gaming in Diablo III, Also been doing a lot more video editing with after effects, So a GPU that will work with CS 6 would help alot. I think I will do some research tonight

    also taking recommendations for blonds and brunettes to fill the previously mentioned rolls! :P

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    My opinion...and in my experience....for graphics workstations....I'd go with 2x separate spindles....rather than two in a single RAID.
    You want to SPLIT your virtual memory/pagefile across two different drives...so that it can concurrently work across two drives. So setting Windows virtual memory to run on C and D drive, system managed, wins for performance. This is a rule for servers...that can benefit workstations that do disk intensive work...such as graphics workstations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YeOldeStonecat View Post
    My opinion...and in my experience....for graphics workstations....I'd go with 2x separate spindles....rather than two in a single RAID.
    You want to SPLIT your virtual memory/pagefile across two different drives...so that it can concurrently work across two drives. So setting Windows virtual memory to run on C and D drive, system managed, wins for performance. This is a rule for servers...that can benefit workstations that do disk intensive work...such as graphics workstations.
    My plan:

    Place the SSD's in Raid-0 for OS and apps
    keep my current raid-0 (2 WD 10K barracudas) as temp files and scratch (page) to minimize ware on the SSD's
    and use one of the 1-2Tb drives I have laying around for long term storage.

    So based on your recommendation, I'll still keep the ssd's in raid-0 for the host, separate the barracudas and split the page and temp files onto those 2 drives. Might as well use them as I have no other use for such small drives (74.3 gig each)

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    Drives came in, Did a fresh install, Everything is working great, Its absolutely crazy how fast it is now, Went with my last plan on how I installed. I found a nice adapter on amazon that let me mount the 2 ssd's in 1 3.5 bay to save room. I'm just so blown away by the speed, My old raid-0 was 97mbs-130mbs, These ssd's are hitting 497-502mbs! And that's SATA II (SATA III drives but i only have SATA II ports) Very impressed!

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    Old Raid (2 barracuda 10k Raid-0 )

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    New SSD Raid-0

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    OCZ makes very good SSDs, stonecat is jsut old fashioned and remembers the old OCZ company.

    OCZ vertex line, Crucial M4s, and the Kingston HyperX 3k series are the SSDs to grab for now. The Corsair Neutron line might be the next big thing though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YARDofSTUF View Post
    OCZ makes very good SSDs, stonecat is jsut old fashioned and remembers the old OCZ company.

    OCZ vertex line, Crucial M4s, and the Kingston HyperX 3k series are the SSDs to grab for now. The Corsair Neutron line might be the next big thing though.
    these are Vertex4's

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    looks very fast, i bet it feels fast as well

    try AS SSD benchmark for another tool and make sure the drive/array is aligned, this tool will check that for you

    http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...enchmark.shtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by YARDofSTUF View Post
    and the Kingston HyperX 3k series are the SSDs to grab for now. .
    Ewww...Kingston..right down there too! Yuck!
    Have replaced a few of those. Won't touch their memory, won't touch their SSDs either.

    Crucial M and Intel SSDs have the reliability track record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YeOldeStonecat View Post
    Ewww...Kingston..right down there too! Yuck!
    Have replaced a few of those. Won't touch their memory, won't touch their SSDs either.

    Crucial M and Intel SSDs have the reliability track record.
    The 3k uses a higher quality NAND. Has some great benchmarks as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    looks very fast, i bet it feels fast as well

    try AS SSD benchmark for another tool and make sure the drive/array is aligned, this tool will check that for you

    http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...enchmark.shtml
    I manually did the formating and junk ussing diskpart during the setup

    cre pri par align=1024 (i was told 1024 due to raid-0, 2048 if no raid)

    downloading now

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