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  1. #1
    draw
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    2 Routers

    Hi,
    My problem is that the distance between the WAN access point and my
    router seems to be to long (D-Link DIR-655). My solution is to connect
    the WAN cable (on a shorter distance) to the WAN port of one WiFi router
    and connecting (on a LAN port) via utp5 cable a second WiFi router to
    his WAN port). (I need ports for other printers and computers)
    It works, I have Internet on both routers and the connected computers,
    but I can not exchange files between computers on different routers.
    Can anyone help me please?

  2. #2
    Char Jackson
    Guest

    Re: 2 Routers

    On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:28:49 +0200, draw <niks@geen.com> wrote:

    >Hi,
    >My problem is that the distance between the WAN access point and my
    >router seems to be to long (D-Link DIR-655). My solution is to connect
    >the WAN cable (on a shorter distance) to the WAN port of one WiFi router
    >and connecting (on a LAN port) via utp5 cable a second WiFi router to
    >his WAN port). (I need ports for other printers and computers)
    >It works, I have Internet on both routers and the connected computers,
    >but I can not exchange files between computers on different routers.
    >Can anyone help me please?


    It sounds like you have something like this:
    WAN --> Router1 --> Router2
    where the WAN cable is connected to the WAN port of Router1, then a
    CAT5 cable goes from a LAN port on Router1 to the WAN port on Router2,
    and PC's and printers are connected to the LAN ports on both routers.

    The fix is simple. Disconnect the cable that's plugged into the WAN
    port on Router2 and plug it into any available LAN port on Router2.
    (Leave the WAN port unused.) If you use DHCP on your network, disable
    the DHCP server in Router2 and just use the DHCP server in Router1.


  3. #3
    draw
    Guest

    Re: 2 Routers

    Op 20/10/2010 19:14, Char Jackson schreef:
    > On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:28:49 +0200, draw<niks@geen.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Hi,
    >> My problem is that the distance between the WAN access point and my
    >> router seems to be to long (D-Link DIR-655). My solution is to connect
    >> the WAN cable (on a shorter distance) to the WAN port of one WiFi router
    >> and connecting (on a LAN port) via utp5 cable a second WiFi router to
    >> his WAN port). (I need ports for other printers and computers)
    >> It works, I have Internet on both routers and the connected computers,
    >> but I can not exchange files between computers on different routers.
    >> Can anyone help me please?

    >
    > It sounds like you have something like this:
    > WAN --> Router1 --> Router2
    > where the WAN cable is connected to the WAN port of Router1, then a
    > CAT5 cable goes from a LAN port on Router1 to the WAN port on Router2,
    > and PC's and printers are connected to the LAN ports on both routers.
    >
    > The fix is simple. Disconnect the cable that's plugged into the WAN
    > port on Router2 and plug it into any available LAN port on Router2.
    > (Leave the WAN port unused.) If you use DHCP on your network, disable
    > the DHCP server in Router2 and just use the DHCP server in Router1.
    >

    Dear Mr Jackson
    Thx a lot for your reply and help.
    It works, even if there are 2 different routers with different IP ranges
    (dir-655 ->192.168.0.100 - 192.168.0.199 and USR8054 -> 192.168.123.100
    - 192.168.123.100)
    Is there a good information source concerning "networks and routers" on
    the web?




  4. #4
    chris
    Guest

    Re: 2 Routers

    "draw" wrote

    > Is there a good information source concerning "networks and routers" on
    > the web?


    it's a dutch site, but you use a lot of dutch ( niks and geen ).
    Have a look at
    http://www.tekstenuitleg.net/artikel...en/router.html



  5. #5
    Char Jackson
    Guest

    Re: 2 Routers

    On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:55:51 +0200, draw <niks@geen.com> wrote:

    >Op 20/10/2010 19:14, Char Jackson schreef:
    >> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:28:49 +0200, draw<niks@geen.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hi,
    >>> My problem is that the distance between the WAN access point and my
    >>> router seems to be to long (D-Link DIR-655). My solution is to connect
    >>> the WAN cable (on a shorter distance) to the WAN port of one WiFi router
    >>> and connecting (on a LAN port) via utp5 cable a second WiFi router to
    >>> his WAN port). (I need ports for other printers and computers)
    >>> It works, I have Internet on both routers and the connected computers,
    >>> but I can not exchange files between computers on different routers.
    >>> Can anyone help me please?

    >>
    >> It sounds like you have something like this:
    >> WAN --> Router1 --> Router2
    >> where the WAN cable is connected to the WAN port of Router1, then a
    >> CAT5 cable goes from a LAN port on Router1 to the WAN port on Router2,
    >> and PC's and printers are connected to the LAN ports on both routers.
    >>
    >> The fix is simple. Disconnect the cable that's plugged into the WAN
    >> port on Router2 and plug it into any available LAN port on Router2.
    >> (Leave the WAN port unused.) If you use DHCP on your network, disable
    >> the DHCP server in Router2 and just use the DHCP server in Router1.
    >>

    >Dear Mr Jackson
    >Thx a lot for your reply and help.
    >It works, even if there are 2 different routers with different IP ranges
    >(dir-655 ->192.168.0.100 - 192.168.0.199 and USR8054 -> 192.168.123.100
    >- 192.168.123.100)


    The change that I suggested will ensure that there is only a single IP
    range covering everything, thus allowing all computers to see each
    other. Your current arrangement means one set of computers is
    effectively hidden from the rest because they are located behind the
    second NAT router. The change that I suggested will not affect
    Internet access.

    >Is there a good information source concerning "networks and routers" on
    >the web?


    In my opinion, the troubleshooting and tutorials section at this site
    is about as good as it gets:
    <http://www.practicallynetworked.com/>



  6. #6
    draw
    Guest

    Re: 2 Routers

    Op 20/10/2010 19:14, Char Jackson schreef:
    > On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:28:49 +0200, draw<niks@geen.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Hi,
    >> My problem is that the distance between the WAN access point and my
    >> router seems to be to long (D-Link DIR-655). My solution is to connect
    >> the WAN cable (on a shorter distance) to the WAN port of one WiFi router
    >> and connecting (on a LAN port) via utp5 cable a second WiFi router to
    >> his WAN port). (I need ports for other printers and computers)
    >> It works, I have Internet on both routers and the connected computers,
    >> but I can not exchange files between computers on different routers.
    >> Can anyone help me please?

    >
    > It sounds like you have something like this:
    > WAN --> Router1 --> Router2
    > where the WAN cable is connected to the WAN port of Router1, then a
    > CAT5 cable goes from a LAN port on Router1 to the WAN port on Router2,
    > and PC's and printers are connected to the LAN ports on both routers.
    >
    > The fix is simple. Disconnect the cable that's plugged into the WAN
    > port on Router2 and plug it into any available LAN port on Router2.
    > (Leave the WAN port unused.) If you use DHCP on your network, disable
    > the DHCP server in Router2 and just use the DHCP server in Router1.
    >

    One problem more, I can not use the printer(s) connected to the ports of
    router 2.
    configuration:
    cable modem -> WAN port router 1 -> LAN Port (1) router 1-> LAN port (1)
    router 2 -> LAN port (2) router 2 -> print server -> USB port(s) print
    server -> printer(s)

  7. #7
    Char Jackson
    Guest

    Re: 2 Routers

    On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:35:34 +0200, draw <niks@geen.com> wrote:

    >Op 20/10/2010 19:14, Char Jackson schreef:
    >> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:28:49 +0200, draw<niks@geen.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hi,
    >>> My problem is that the distance between the WAN access point and my
    >>> router seems to be to long (D-Link DIR-655). My solution is to connect
    >>> the WAN cable (on a shorter distance) to the WAN port of one WiFi router
    >>> and connecting (on a LAN port) via utp5 cable a second WiFi router to
    >>> his WAN port). (I need ports for other printers and computers)
    >>> It works, I have Internet on both routers and the connected computers,
    >>> but I can not exchange files between computers on different routers.
    >>> Can anyone help me please?

    >>
    >> It sounds like you have something like this:
    >> WAN --> Router1 --> Router2
    >> where the WAN cable is connected to the WAN port of Router1, then a
    >> CAT5 cable goes from a LAN port on Router1 to the WAN port on Router2,
    >> and PC's and printers are connected to the LAN ports on both routers.
    >>
    >> The fix is simple. Disconnect the cable that's plugged into the WAN
    >> port on Router2 and plug it into any available LAN port on Router2.
    >> (Leave the WAN port unused.) If you use DHCP on your network, disable
    >> the DHCP server in Router2 and just use the DHCP server in Router1.
    >>

    >One problem more, I can not use the printer(s) connected to the ports of
    >router 2.
    >configuration:
    >cable modem -> WAN port router 1 -> LAN Port (1) router 1-> LAN port (1)
    >router 2 -> LAN port (2) router 2 -> print server -> USB port(s) print
    >server -> printer(s)


    If you've already made the change I suggested, I would expect the
    printer to work properly with all of the various computers. Of course,
    you'll have to reboot the computers that are attached to router 2 in
    order for them to pick up an IP address from router 1.
    (DHCP release & renew should also do the trick)


  8. #8
    draw
    Guest

    Re: 2 Routers


    "Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> schreef in bericht
    news:v841c6h6reg17sm5c6llo061dhdao492i2@4ax.com...
    > On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:35:34 +0200, draw <niks@geen.com> wrote:
    >
    >>Op 20/10/2010 19:14, Char Jackson schreef:
    >>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:28:49 +0200, draw<niks@geen.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Hi,
    >>>> My problem is that the distance between the WAN access point and my
    >>>> router seems to be to long (D-Link DIR-655). My solution is to connect
    >>>> the WAN cable (on a shorter distance) to the WAN port of one WiFi
    >>>> router
    >>>> and connecting (on a LAN port) via utp5 cable a second WiFi router to
    >>>> his WAN port). (I need ports for other printers and computers)
    >>>> It works, I have Internet on both routers and the connected computers,
    >>>> but I can not exchange files between computers on different routers.
    >>>> Can anyone help me please?
    >>>
    >>> It sounds like you have something like this:
    >>> WAN --> Router1 --> Router2
    >>> where the WAN cable is connected to the WAN port of Router1, then a
    >>> CAT5 cable goes from a LAN port on Router1 to the WAN port on Router2,
    >>> and PC's and printers are connected to the LAN ports on both routers.
    >>>
    >>> The fix is simple. Disconnect the cable that's plugged into the WAN
    >>> port on Router2 and plug it into any available LAN port on Router2.
    >>> (Leave the WAN port unused.) If you use DHCP on your network, disable
    >>> the DHCP server in Router2 and just use the DHCP server in Router1.
    >>>

    >>One problem more, I can not use the printer(s) connected to the ports of
    >>router 2.
    >>configuration:
    >>cable modem -> WAN port router 1 -> LAN Port (1) router 1-> LAN port (1)
    >>router 2 -> LAN port (2) router 2 -> print server -> USB port(s) print
    >>server -> printer(s)

    >
    > If you've already made the change I suggested, I would expect the
    > printer to work properly with all of the various computers. Of course,
    > you'll have to reboot the computers that are attached to router 2 in
    > order for them to pick up an IP address from router 1.
    > (DHCP release & renew should also do the trick)
    >

    All the computers can't see the printer(s)!
    example: the printer with adress 192.168.123.105, connected to the router 2
    is not working.
    no adress in the range 192.168.123.100 to 192.168.123.255 can be connected
    (putting adresses in the browser)




  9. #9
    Char Jackson
    Guest

    Re: 2 Routers

    On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:28:55 +0200, "draw" <my@addresss.niks> wrote:

    >
    >"Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> schreef in bericht
    >news:v841c6h6reg17sm5c6llo061dhdao492i2@4ax.com...
    >> On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:35:34 +0200, draw <niks@geen.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Op 20/10/2010 19:14, Char Jackson schreef:
    >>>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:28:49 +0200, draw<niks@geen.com> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Hi,
    >>>>> My problem is that the distance between the WAN access point and my
    >>>>> router seems to be to long (D-Link DIR-655). My solution is to connect
    >>>>> the WAN cable (on a shorter distance) to the WAN port of one WiFi
    >>>>> router
    >>>>> and connecting (on a LAN port) via utp5 cable a second WiFi router to
    >>>>> his WAN port). (I need ports for other printers and computers)
    >>>>> It works, I have Internet on both routers and the connected computers,
    >>>>> but I can not exchange files between computers on different routers.
    >>>>> Can anyone help me please?
    >>>>
    >>>> It sounds like you have something like this:
    >>>> WAN --> Router1 --> Router2
    >>>> where the WAN cable is connected to the WAN port of Router1, then a
    >>>> CAT5 cable goes from a LAN port on Router1 to the WAN port on Router2,
    >>>> and PC's and printers are connected to the LAN ports on both routers.
    >>>>
    >>>> The fix is simple. Disconnect the cable that's plugged into the WAN
    >>>> port on Router2 and plug it into any available LAN port on Router2.
    >>>> (Leave the WAN port unused.) If you use DHCP on your network, disable
    >>>> the DHCP server in Router2 and just use the DHCP server in Router1.
    >>>>
    >>>One problem more, I can not use the printer(s) connected to the ports of
    >>>router 2.
    >>>configuration:
    >>>cable modem -> WAN port router 1 -> LAN Port (1) router 1-> LAN port (1)
    >>>router 2 -> LAN port (2) router 2 -> print server -> USB port(s) print
    >>>server -> printer(s)

    >>
    >> If you've already made the change I suggested, I would expect the
    >> printer to work properly with all of the various computers. Of course,
    >> you'll have to reboot the computers that are attached to router 2 in
    >> order for them to pick up an IP address from router 1.
    >> (DHCP release & renew should also do the trick)
    >>

    >All the computers can't see the printer(s)!
    >example: the printer with adress 192.168.123.105, connected to the router 2
    >is not working.
    >no adress in the range 192.168.123.100 to 192.168.123.255 can be connected
    >(putting adresses in the browser)


    I'm guessing that the IP range of your first router (the router that
    was connected to your cable modem) was 192.168.0.x while the IP range
    of the second router was 192.168.123.x. If so, and if you've made the
    original change I suggested above, then no computers and printers
    should still be in the range of 192.168.123.x. If a printer is still
    in that range, it's normal that the other computers can't see it.

    Simply reconfigure it to use an IP address within the 192.168.0.x
    range. If you're using DHCP, this will all be automatic for you. If no
    DHCP, you'll configure it manually, but be sure you don't manually
    assign an IP address that falls within the DHCP range. After updating
    the printer (or print server?) config, be sure the computers are
    configured to use the new printer address or they'll try to print to
    the old address, which won't work.


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