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  1. #1
    nospam
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <1u65069v840lksrpjovrggv9s8cn62oefm@4ax.com>, John Navas
    <jnspam1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

    > >They said the same crap about the iPhone. Yet again the last laugh will
    > >be on them.

    >
    > Tell that to those of us with Android phones that cost us less, give us
    > more, and don't limit us to AT&T. :D


    android phones are just catching up to iphones and the at&t exclusivity
    is going to end, probably sooner than people think.

    android 2.2 *adds* the ability to back up user's data (amazingly, it
    was not there before), and that's an api call that an app has to make.
    wtf!! on an iphone, the user's data is automatically backed up. it
    'just works.'

    here's one example, and note that android 2.1 was *just* released (may
    19). 2.2 is a *ways* off (see below).

    <http://www.htc.com/us/support/hero-sprint/downloads>
    WARNING: Installing this software will erase your current user data.
    Please see instructions below for details.
    ....
    Text and picture messages will be deleted with this software update.*
    You can back up text and picture messages by forwarding them to an
    email address.
    ....
    Applications will be deleted with this software update.* You will
    need to re-download the desired applications from the Market after
    this update completes.

    seriously, who thought deleting the user's data is a good idea?

    android 2.2 adds tethering, something the iphone has had for a year.
    although at&t doesn't support it on the iphone, just about every other
    carrier does. google did do a nice job with making it create a wifi
    hotspot, but it remains to be seen how many carriers will support it,
    and since the carriers can modify the code (it's open source, after
    all), they could disable tethering entirely. sprint has announced it's
    going to be $30/mo *more* for tethering.

    it also adds exchange support, something the iphone has had for 2
    years, and still does not have in-app purchases.

    but the real kicker is android 2.2 is not out yet unless you own a
    nexus one. it may be until the *end of the year* for some devices, or
    maybe not at all, like the t-mobile g1 that's still being sold. 2.1 is
    the end of the line for g1 users, a phone that's less than 2 years old.

  2. #2
    Dennis Ferguson
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    On 2010-05-30, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    > In article <1u65069v840lksrpjovrggv9s8cn62oefm@4ax.com>, John Navas
    ><jnspam1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
    >> Tell that to those of us with Android phones that cost us less, give us
    >> more, and don't limit us to AT&T. :D

    >
    > android phones are just catching up to iphones and the at&t exclusivity
    > is going to end, probably sooner than people think.


    How soon do people think AT&T exclusivity is going to end?

    > android 2.2 adds tethering, something the iphone has had for a year.
    > although at&t doesn't support it on the iphone, just about every other
    > carrier does.


    My iPhone can be tethered on about 12% of the carriers the phone
    can be used with. That's "just about every other carrier"?

    > all), they could disable tethering entirely. sprint has announced it's
    > going to be $30/mo *more* for tethering.


    Why is that surprising? That's what Verizon and AT&T charge as well
    (I don't know what T-Mobile charges, it might be cheaper).

    Dennis Ferguson

  3. #3
    nospam
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <slrni05rc8.5k.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com>, Dennis
    Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:

    > >> Tell that to those of us with Android phones that cost us less, give us
    > >> more, and don't limit us to AT&T. :D

    > >
    > > android phones are just catching up to iphones and the at&t exclusivity
    > > is going to end, probably sooner than people think.

    >
    > How soon do people think AT&T exclusivity is going to end?


    people keep claiming there was a 5 year exclusive, despite nothing
    official, which would mean 2012. it won't be that long.

    it will definitely go away when all carriers deploy lte which should
    start late this year and into next year, so i'd say 2011 at the latest.

    the question is, will the exclusive go away before 2011, as in this
    year sometime? we might find out next week...

    > > android 2.2 adds tethering, something the iphone has had for a year.
    > > although at&t doesn't support it on the iphone, just about every other
    > > carrier does.

    >
    > My iPhone can be tethered on about 12% of the carriers the phone
    > can be used with. That's "just about every other carrier"?


    how many subscribers does that cover? and we're one week away from the
    official announcement of 4.0, which is rumoured to have enhancements to
    tethering.

    > > all), they could disable tethering entirely. sprint has announced it's
    > > going to be $30/mo *more* for tethering.

    >
    > Why is that surprising?


    it's not surprising at all. it's just that android fanbois point out
    how much better tethering is on android (and the wifi hotspot is
    definitely nice), but so far the ability to do so hasn't been released
    yet except on one model phone only on one carrier (where have i heard
    this before?)

    > That's what Verizon and AT&T charge as well
    > (I don't know what T-Mobile charges, it might be cheaper).


    i don't think t-mobile is currently charging extra for tethering with
    the nexus one. they're #4 so they might want to woo a few more
    customers. who knows how long that will last though.

  4. #4
    Jolly Roger
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <slrni05rc8.5k.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com>,
    Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:

    > On 2010-05-30, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    > > In article <1u65069v840lksrpjovrggv9s8cn62oefm@4ax.com>, John Navas
    > ><jnspam1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
    > >> Tell that to those of us with Android phones that cost us less, give us
    > >> more, and don't limit us to AT&T. :D

    > >
    > > android phones are just catching up to iphones and the at&t exclusivity
    > > is going to end, probably sooner than people think.

    >
    > How soon do people think AT&T exclusivity is going to end?
    >
    > > android 2.2 adds tethering, something the iphone has had for a year.
    > > although at&t doesn't support it on the iphone, just about every other
    > > carrier does.

    >
    > My iPhone can be tethered on about 12% of the carriers the phone
    > can be used with. That's "just about every other carrier"?


    Actually, the iPhone tether with AT&T, or with any other provider.

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  5. #5
    nospam
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <jollyroger-41B59D.22571930052010@news.individual.net>,
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    > Actually, the iPhone tether with AT&T, or with any other provider.


    actually, it doesn't. the iphone does not tether with at&t at this time
    due to at&t's incompetence.

    that may change in 4.0.

  6. #6
    Jolly Roger
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <300520102110460048%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    > In article <jollyroger-41B59D.22571930052010@news.individual.net>,
    > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    >
    > > Actually, the iPhone tether with AT&T, or with any other provider.

    >
    > actually, it doesn't. the iphone does not tether with at&t at this time
    > due to at&t's incompetence.
    >
    > that may change in 4.0.


    Actually I just tethered my iPad to my iPhone yesterday, and I am on
    AT&T. It absolutely does tether.

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  7. #7
    nospam
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <jollyroger-27DD43.09174831052010@news.individual.net>,
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    > > > Actually, the iPhone tether with AT&T, or with any other provider.

    > >
    > > actually, it doesn't. the iphone does not tether with at&t at this time
    > > due to at&t's incompetence.
    > >
    > > that may change in 4.0.

    >
    > Actually I just tethered my iPad to my iPhone yesterday, and I am on
    > AT&T. It absolutely does tether.


    then you hacked it and are in violation of at&t's terms of service.

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