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  1. #21
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <jollyroger-EE6216.20105731052010@news.individual.net>,
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    > > How about you both agree to "The iPhone does not tether with AT&T unless it
    > > is jailbroken. This is subject to change without advance notice."?

    >
    > I'm down with that.


    me too.

  2. #22
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <jollyroger-3AE753.20163831052010@news.individual.net>,
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    > If you had mentioned jail breaking or TOS in your initial statement "the
    > iphone does not tether with at&t", perhaps we wouldn't be having this
    > discussion. But you claimed it could not be done, which is incorrect.


    the vast majority of iphone users do not jailbreak. claiming that
    someone can tether to at&t when most users can't is misleading.

    > > > > > If you know what you are doing you can upgrade just fine without
    > > > > > issue.
    > > > >
    > > > > big if. many people upgraded and were screwed. those who needed an
    > > > > unlock could no longer use their iphone *at all*. some were stuck on
    > > > > the activation screen so they couldn't even use it as an ipod or mobile
    > > > > internet device. a brick, in other words.
    > > >
    > > > A smart person would have restored their phone before upgrading.

    > >
    > > actually, that would have been a big mistake. restoring a new firmware
    > > without the proper precautions could potentially brick it.

    >
    > I'm talking about restoring *with* the proper precautions. Nice try,
    > though.


    you did not say 'with the proper precautions.'

  3. #23
    Jolly Roger
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <310520101825453782%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    > In article <jollyroger-3AE753.20163831052010@news.individual.net>,
    > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    >
    > > If you had mentioned jail breaking or TOS in your initial statement "the
    > > iphone does not tether with at&t", perhaps we wouldn't be having this
    > > discussion. But you claimed it could not be done, which is incorrect.

    >
    > the vast majority of iphone users do not jailbreak. claiming that
    > someone can tether to at&t when most users can't is misleading.


    Any user can jail break if they wish. It's a simply app download and
    button click away.

    > > > > > > If you know what you are doing you can upgrade just fine without
    > > > > > > issue.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > big if. many people upgraded and were screwed. those who needed an
    > > > > > unlock could no longer use their iphone *at all*. some were stuck on
    > > > > > the activation screen so they couldn't even use it as an ipod or
    > > > > > mobile
    > > > > > internet device. a brick, in other words.
    > > > >
    > > > > A smart person would have restored their phone before upgrading.
    > > >
    > > > actually, that would have been a big mistake. restoring a new firmware
    > > > without the proper precautions could potentially brick it.

    > >
    > > I'm talking about restoring *with* the proper precautions. Nice try,
    > > though.

    >
    > you did not say 'with the proper precautions.'


    Just like you did not say "without jail breaking and violating a TOS".

    Ready to stop bickering yet?

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  4. #24
    Michelle Steiner
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <310520101825453782%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    > > If you had mentioned jail breaking or TOS in your initial statement
    > > "the iphone does not tether with at&t", perhaps we wouldn't be having
    > > this discussion. But you claimed it could not be done, which is
    > > incorrect.

    >
    > the vast majority of iphone users do not jailbreak. claiming that
    > someone can tether to at&t when most users can't is misleading.


    And claiming unilaterally that it can't tether with AT&T when it can is
    even more misleading.

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  5. #25
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <michelle-809F44.18393931052010@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

    > And claiming unilaterally that it can't tether with AT&T when it can is
    > even more misleading.


    not when 90% of iphone users don't jailbreak it isn't.

    it can only tether to at&t *if* you jailbreak *and* you install the
    configuration, and *if* the jailbreak method enables it (not all do, by
    the way).

  6. #26
    Michelle Steiner
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <310520101844049717%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    > > And claiming unilaterally that it can't tether with AT&T when it can
    > > is even more misleading.

    >
    > not when 90% of iphone users don't jailbreak it isn't.


    Yes it is because it denies the fact that you can tether with AT&T via
    jailbreaking.

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  7. #27
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <michelle-7C43B5.19234931052010@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

    > > > And claiming unilaterally that it can't tether with AT&T when it can
    > > > is even more misleading.

    > >
    > > not when 90% of iphone users don't jailbreak it isn't.

    >
    > Yes it is because it denies the fact that you can tether with AT&T via
    > jailbreaking.


    then apple only had an exclusive with at&t for just a couple of months,
    since you could use t-mobile or any other carrier since fall, 2007.

  8. #28
    Jolly Roger
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <310520101931461407%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    > In article <michelle-7C43B5.19234931052010@news.eternal-september.org>,
    > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
    >
    > > > > And claiming unilaterally that it can't tether with AT&T when it can
    > > > > is even more misleading.
    > > >
    > > > not when 90% of iphone users don't jailbreak it isn't.

    > >
    > > Yes it is because it denies the fact that you can tether with AT&T via
    > > jailbreaking.

    >
    > then apple only had an exclusive with at&t for just a couple of months,
    > since you could use t-mobile or any other carrier since fall, 2007.


    That has nothing to do with the current discussion.

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  9. #29
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <jollyroger-71E6DC.22241231052010@news.individual.net>,
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    > > > Yes it is because it denies the fact that you can tether with AT&T via
    > > > jailbreaking.

    > >
    > > then apple only had an exclusive with at&t for just a couple of months,
    > > since you could use t-mobile or any other carrier since fall, 2007.

    >
    > That has nothing to do with the current discussion.


    sure it does.

    it's possible to use an iphone on other carriers even though it's
    unsupported.

    works both ways.

  10. #30
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <jollyroger-71E6DC.22241231052010@news.individual.net>, Jolly
    Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    > In article <310520101931461407%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
    > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    >
    > > In article <michelle-7C43B5.19234931052010@news.eternal-september.org>,
    > > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
    > >
    > > > > > And claiming unilaterally that it can't tether with AT&T when it can
    > > > > > is even more misleading.
    > > > >
    > > > > not when 90% of iphone users don't jailbreak it isn't.
    > > >
    > > > Yes it is because it denies the fact that you can tether with AT&T via
    > > > jailbreaking.

    > >
    > > then apple only had an exclusive with at&t for just a couple of months,
    > > since you could use t-mobile or any other carrier since fall, 2007.

    >
    > That has nothing to do with the current discussion.


    That's because the "current discussion" is about Apple mice. ;-)

  11. #31
    Michelle Steiner
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <310520101931461407%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    > > > > And claiming unilaterally that it can't tether with AT&T when it
    > > > > can is even more misleading.
    > > >
    > > > not when 90% of iphone users don't jailbreak it isn't.

    > >
    > > Yes it is because it denies the fact that you can tether with AT&T via
    > > jailbreaking.

    >
    > then apple only had an exclusive with at&t for just a couple of months,
    > since you could use t-mobile or any other carrier since fall, 2007.


    False analogy. Apple still has an exclusive with at&t, but that doesn't
    mean that the only carrier the phone will work with is at&t.

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  12. #32
    Jolly Roger
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article
    <your.name-0106101629510001@203-109-166-105.dial.dyn.ihug.co.nz>,
    your.name@isp.com (Your Name) wrote:

    > In article <jollyroger-71E6DC.22241231052010@news.individual.net>, Jolly
    > Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    >
    > > In article <310520101931461407%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
    > > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    > >
    > > > In article <michelle-7C43B5.19234931052010@news.eternal-september.org>,
    > > > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > > > And claiming unilaterally that it can't tether with AT&T when it
    > > > > > > can
    > > > > > > is even more misleading.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > not when 90% of iphone users don't jailbreak it isn't.
    > > > >
    > > > > Yes it is because it denies the fact that you can tether with AT&T via
    > > > > jailbreaking.
    > > >
    > > > then apple only had an exclusive with at&t for just a couple of months,
    > > > since you could use t-mobile or any other carrier since fall, 2007.

    > >
    > > That has nothing to do with the current discussion.

    >
    > That's because the "current discussion" is about Apple mice. ;-)


    Touche? : )

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  13. #33
    Jolly Roger
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <310520102037308059%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    > In article <jollyroger-71E6DC.22241231052010@news.individual.net>,
    > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    >
    > > > > Yes it is because it denies the fact that you can tether with AT&T via
    > > > > jailbreaking.
    > > >
    > > > then apple only had an exclusive with at&t for just a couple of months,
    > > > since you could use t-mobile or any other carrier since fall, 2007.

    > >
    > > That has nothing to do with the current discussion.

    >
    > sure it does.
    >
    > it's possible to use an iphone on other carriers even though it's
    > unsupported.
    >
    > works both ways.


    Then how is it so hard for you to admit that you can indeed tether the
    iPhone on AT&T?

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  14. #34
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    In article <hu3isv$5v0$1@speranza.aioe.org>, alexd
    <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:

    > > the vast majority of iphone users do not jailbreak. claiming that
    > > someone can tether to at&t when most users can't is misleading.

    >
    > Would that be more or less misleading than claiming developers are
    > end-users?


    they are end users.

  15. #35
    Char Jackson
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    Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

    On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 13:57:24 -0700, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    >In article <hu3isv$5v0$1@speranza.aioe.org>, alexd
    ><troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >> > the vast majority of iphone users do not jailbreak. claiming that
    >> > someone can tether to at&t when most users can't is misleading.

    >>
    >> Would that be more or less misleading than claiming developers are
    >> end-users?

    >
    >they are end users.


    How can they be end users for a product that hasn't been released yet?

    Hint: they can't, and they aren't. They are simply developers at this
    point.


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