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  1. #1
    Bill Kearney
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    Re: Verizon Iphone coming? Was: Qs about Verizon Droid

    > While a closed system has obvious advantages for Apple in the consumer
    > market, the enterprise market tends to go for open systems over closed
    > systems.


    That and Apple has shown over time to have little more than contempt for the
    enterprise market, by making no tools that aid it.


  2. #2
    nospam
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    Re: Verizon Iphone coming? Was: Qs about Verizon Droid

    In article <D9WdnWMLkIiG15zRnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>, Bill
    Kearney wrote:

    > > While a closed system has obvious advantages for Apple in the consumer
    > > market, the enterprise market tends to go for open systems over closed
    > > systems.

    >
    > That and Apple has shown over time to have little more than contempt for the
    > enterprise market, by making no tools that aid it.


    nonsense.

  3. #3
    Richard B. Gilbert
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    Re: Verizon Iphone coming? Was: Qs about Verizon Droid

    nospam wrote:
    > In article <D9WdnWMLkIiG15zRnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>, Bill
    > Kearney wrote:
    >
    >>> While a closed system has obvious advantages for Apple in the consumer
    >>> market, the enterprise market tends to go for open systems over closed
    >>> systems.

    >> That and Apple has shown over time to have little more than contempt for the
    >> enterprise market, by making no tools that aid it.

    >
    > nonsense.


    Instead of just saying "nonsense", you might try to mention a few of
    Apple's applications or tools that aid business.

    I used to work for a company that had about 300 X86 PCs and eight or so
    Apple Macs. The Macs were used for a typesetting application. The PCs
    ran the business; order-entry, customer service, etc. Could the Apples
    have done it? Probably! They didn't because the PCs and their software
    were cheaper to buy and maintain.

  4. #4
    nospam
    Guest

    Re: Verizon Iphone coming? Was: Qs about Verizon Droid

    In article <EoadnUfBFoXVwZzRnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@giganews.com>, Richard B.
    Gilbert <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

    > >>> While a closed system has obvious advantages for Apple in the consumer
    > >>> market, the enterprise market tends to go for open systems over closed
    > >>> systems.
    > >> That and Apple has shown over time to have little more than contempt for
    > >> the
    > >> enterprise market, by making no tools that aid it.

    > >
    > > nonsense.

    >
    > Instead of just saying "nonsense", you might try to mention a few of
    > Apple's applications or tools that aid business.


    os x comes with built-in exchange support that enterprise likes to use,
    along with open source components such as apache and other tools. os x
    server goes further with a *lot* of tools enterprises want.

  5. #5
    Bill Kearney
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    Re: Verizon Iphone coming? Was: Qs about Verizon Droid

    > os x comes with built-in exchange support that enterprise likes to use,
    > along with open source components such as apache and other tools. os x
    > server goes further with a *lot* of tools enterprises want.


    A mail client isn't enterprise support. Nor is a web server.

    Network authentication and policies are, and they're entirely missing from
    Apple.



  6. #6
    nospam
    Guest

    Re: Verizon Iphone coming? Was: Qs about Verizon Droid

    In article <3fGdnVFQ6JgJTJzRnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@speakeasy.net>, Bill
    Kearney <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote:

    > > os x comes with built-in exchange support that enterprise likes to use,
    > > along with open source components such as apache and other tools. os x
    > > server goes further with a *lot* of tools enterprises want.

    >
    > A mail client isn't enterprise support. Nor is a web server.


    exchange support makes it easy to integrate a mac into a corporate
    network that uses exchange, and most companies have web servers, so
    they could use a mac instead of windows there if they wanted to. some
    use apache on linux, so it's a simple transition too.

    > Network authentication and policies are, and they're entirely missing from
    > Apple.


    that's there too.

  7. #7
    John Higdon
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    Re: Verizon Iphone coming? Was: Qs about Verizon Droid

    In article <EoadnUfBFoXVwZzRnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

    > Instead of just saying "nonsense", you might try to mention a few of
    > Apple's applications or tools that aid business.


    Final Cut Pro.

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    John Higdon
    +1 408 ANdrews 6-4400
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  8. #8
    SMS
    Guest

    Re: Verizon Iphone coming? Was: Qs about Verizon Droid

    On 29/05/10 1:02 PM, John Higdon wrote:
    > In article<EoadnUfBFoXVwZzRnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    > "Richard B. Gilbert"<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
    >
    >> Instead of just saying "nonsense", you might try to mention a few of
    >> Apple's applications or tools that aid business.

    >
    > Final Cut Pro.


    That's the app that keeps a lot of people buying Macs. Quite a deal
    compared to Avid, especially when you have no need for the level of
    functionality that Avid provides.

    About once a year one of my kids has a movie project for school that
    results in chaos trying to combine stuff from iMovie, animated GIFs,
    ..wmv files, JPEGs, MPEG2 video, and JPG files. They finish the creative
    part, then I'm generally up all night converting files into formats that
    one movie program can work with (either Windows Movie Maker, iMovie, or
    Sony Vegas Studio) then the next morning they assemble all the files
    into the movie, minutes before they have to take the final product to
    school. They used to love iMovie but Apple did some strange things to
    iMovie a couple of years ago. I.e. in iMovie '08 there is no way to save
    a project so you can work on it on a different computer.

    I just could not believe that this was true, but apparently it is, and
    it was explained succinctly by someone like this:

    1. iMovie '08 *only* recognizes projects located in the home folder of
    the startup drive.

    2. If you copy a project to an external drive, iMovie '08 won't
    recognize it. You will have to move it back into its original folder on
    your startup drive to get iMovie to see it.

    3. Project files don't work without the event footage to go with it,
    which is stored in a different folder (on whichever drive you told
    iMovie to put the event). Be very careful moving projects and events
    around manually, because you can break your projects.

    4. iMovie '09 will allow you to easily move projects in a way that
    preserves the event footage to go with it.

    So the solution to a problem that should never have been a problem is to
    buy the new version of iLife!

  9. #9
    John Higdon
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    Re: Verizon Iphone coming? Was: Qs about Verizon Droid

    In article <4c01b986$0$1655$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
    SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

    > That's the app that keeps a lot of people buying Macs. Quite a deal
    > compared to Avid, especially when you have no need for the level of
    > functionality that Avid provides.


    More and more studios are switching (or adopting from scratch) Final Cut
    Pro. A friend of mine who owns a video production house (that does
    commercials you've probably seen) used to dismiss Final Cut as a toy.
    That is no longer the case.

    --
    John Higdon
    +1 408 ANdrews 6-4400
    AT&T-Free At Last

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