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  1. #1
    Joe
    Guest

    Got the Cisco E3000

    First I would like to thanks some folks here for information helped me to
    decide to go for it. I do realize that the top-notch E3000 could be more
    than what I really need, but since it isn't too expensive and.

    - I guess for long run it may cost me few bucks a years, so it should be
    very reasonable

    - And since it's a brand new product not many people own it, especially not
    many people go for the E3000 so not many people will bad-mouth about my toy
    <just kidding>.

    - I chose the E3000 because it's current top-notch so it should be good for
    quite some years. It also have other options like 1gbps that my motherboard
    has, and I am thinking of upgrading my old SB5120 modem to the SB6120
    DOSCSIS 3 modem which also have 1gbps LAN port.

    I don't know what to do with the external storage and others yet, but I
    think I can figure it out later. I do have wireless laser printer and
    couple extra 1GB external hard drives so I can give it a try (may be may be
    not).

    I got this from local Target for $150 + Sale Tax (Best Buy wants $180 for
    it). Yesterday, I checked online it said 2 local Wal-Mart stores had some
    (we have around 4 Wal-Marts within 2-6 miles range here), I went to one and
    was about to bring to cashier, but decided to read more about the SB6120
    modem. I checked online and none of local Wal-Mart have any in stock.

    Well, because I am slow so I haven't installed it yet. And because it
    doesn't come with any MANUAL so I downloaded the DPF manual which I will try
    to read later tonight.

    And I don't think it will be any harder than the other routers I have
    before. Except I read quite afew reports saying that it won't be easy to
    connect to CISCO.NET (or whatever) for addional setup (or more advanced
    features/options) but I can take my time to try it whenever I can (I am no
    hurry)

    Again, thanks for positive info and courage. And wish me luck!

  2. #2
    Tony Hwang
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    Joe wrote:
    > First I would like to thanks some folks here for information helped me to
    > decide to go for it. I do realize that the top-notch E3000 could be more
    > than what I really need, but since it isn't too expensive and.
    >
    > - I guess for long run it may cost me few bucks a years, so it should be
    > very reasonable
    >
    > - And since it's a brand new product not many people own it, especially not
    > many people go for the E3000 so not many people will bad-mouth about my toy
    > <just kidding>.
    >
    > - I chose the E3000 because it's current top-notch so it should be good for
    > quite some years. It also have other options like 1gbps that my motherboard
    > has, and I am thinking of upgrading my old SB5120 modem to the SB6120
    > DOSCSIS 3 modem which also have 1gbps LAN port.
    >
    > I don't know what to do with the external storage and others yet, but I
    > think I can figure it out later. I do have wireless laser printer and
    > couple extra 1GB external hard drives so I can give it a try (may be may be
    > not).
    >
    > I got this from local Target for $150 + Sale Tax (Best Buy wants $180 for
    > it). Yesterday, I checked online it said 2 local Wal-Mart stores had some
    > (we have around 4 Wal-Marts within 2-6 miles range here), I went to one and
    > was about to bring to cashier, but decided to read more about the SB6120
    > modem. I checked online and none of local Wal-Mart have any in stock.

    Hi,
    Wonder how it compares to WRT610N, V2?
    I am still using an old WRT500N with dd-wrt firmware.

    >
    > Well, because I am slow so I haven't installed it yet. And because it
    > doesn't come with any MANUAL so I downloaded the DPF manual which I will try
    > to read later tonight.
    >
    > And I don't think it will be any harder than the other routers I have
    > before. Except I read quite afew reports saying that it won't be easy to
    > connect to CISCO.NET (or whatever) for addional setup (or more advanced
    > features/options) but I can take my time to try it whenever I can (I am no
    > hurry)
    >
    > Again, thanks for positive info and courage. And wish me lu


  3. #3
    Joel
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

    > Joe wrote:
    > > First I would like to thanks some folks here for information helped me to
    > > decide to go for it. I do realize that the top-notch E3000 could be more
    > > than what I really need, but since it isn't too expensive and.
    > >
    > > - I guess for long run it may cost me few bucks a years, so it should be
    > > very reasonable
    > >
    > > - And since it's a brand new product not many people own it, especially not
    > > many people go for the E3000 so not many people will bad-mouth about my toy
    > > <just kidding>.
    > >
    > > - I chose the E3000 because it's current top-notch so it should be good for
    > > quite some years. It also have other options like 1gbps that my motherboard
    > > has, and I am thinking of upgrading my old SB5120 modem to the SB6120
    > > DOSCSIS 3 modem which also have 1gbps LAN port.
    > >
    > > I don't know what to do with the external storage and others yet, but I
    > > think I can figure it out later. I do have wireless laser printer and
    > > couple extra 1GB external hard drives so I can give it a try (may be may be
    > > not).
    > >
    > > I got this from local Target for $150 + Sale Tax (Best Buy wants $180 for
    > > it). Yesterday, I checked online it said 2 local Wal-Mart stores had some
    > > (we have around 4 Wal-Marts within 2-6 miles range here), I went to one and
    > > was about to bring to cashier, but decided to read more about the SB6120
    > > modem. I checked online and none of local Wal-Mart have any in stock.

    > Hi,
    > Wonder how it compares to WRT610N, V2?
    > I am still using an old WRT500N with dd-wrt firmware.


    As you may have realized that I am not an experted on wireless router, and
    I was about to ask some experienced folks here about my new toy E3000 that
    has way too many fancy options.

    But I sure can answer your question base on the very general I read. The
    Cisco E3000 is the TOP-OF-THE-LINE which has all the features of the little
    brothers E1000 & E2000 (I assume that E1000 is the replacement of WRT160N
    and E2000 is the GIGA model).

    I downloaded the PDF manual trying to read to learn a little more about it
    before start installing it, but it has lot more features/options than I have
    expected, and I have low-back problem (for 23 years) to seat more than 10-15
    mins to read the long manual. This is part of what I understand

    - It has dual-band 2.4 GHz & 5 GHz. And I don't know what advantage about
    this except wider range.

    - It has all features of the other N + Ultra Range + Giga + Its own

    - It has built-in 1gbps LAN ports/connections for greater speed

    - It has option to create Private, Guess, and free Wi-Fi with separated PW.
    This is lot more than my other routers so I will have to learn more about
    this.

    - It has option to connect an external storage (to USB port) for file
    sharing, and I think it can act as a FTP server for remoted systems or
    something. This I will have to read more.

    And lot more but I don't know much about them to share here, so far I am
    quite please with what I read. And I guess I may have to ask some experted
    here for more information about the E3000 (or advanced features/options) and
    I pass some info I think I understand for correction then learn from it? And
    I didn't know much about these features/options til I downloaded and started
    reading the DPF manual (the E3000 doesn't come with paper manual or
    instruction, just the E3000 and a DVD).

    > > Well, because I am slow so I haven't installed it yet. And because it
    > > doesn't come with any MANUAL so I downloaded the DPF manual which I will try
    > > to read later tonight.
    > >
    > > And I don't think it will be any harder than the other routers I have
    > > before. Except I read quite afew reports saying that it won't be easy to
    > > connect to CISCO.NET (or whatever) for addional setup (or more advanced
    > > features/options) but I can take my time to try it whenever I can (I am no
    > > hurry)
    > >
    > > Again, thanks for positive info and courage. And wish me lu


  4. #4
    Joel
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:

    > > > I got this from local Target for $150 + Sale Tax (Best Buy wants $180 for
    > > > it). Yesterday, I checked online it said 2 local Wal-Mart stores had some
    > > > (we have around 4 Wal-Marts within 2-6 miles range here), I went to one and
    > > > was about to bring to cashier, but decided to read more about the SB6120
    > > > modem. I checked online and none of local Wal-Mart have any in stock.

    > > Hi,
    > > Wonder how it compares to WRT610N, V2?
    > > I am still using an old WRT500N with dd-wrt firmware.

    >
    > As you may have realized that I am not an experted on wireless router, and
    > I was about to ask some experienced folks here about my new toy E3000 that
    > has way too many fancy options.
    >
    > But I sure can answer your question base on the very general I read. The
    > Cisco E3000 is the TOP-OF-THE-LINE which has all the features of the little
    > brothers E1000 & E2000 (I assume that E1000 is the replacement of WRT160N
    > and E2000 is the GIGA model).
    >
    > I downloaded the PDF manual trying to read to learn a little more about it
    > before start installing it, but it has lot more features/options than I have
    > expected, and I have low-back problem (for 23 years) to seat more than 10-15
    > mins to read the long manual. This is part of what I understand
    >
    > - It has dual-band 2.4 GHz & 5 GHz. And I don't know what advantage about
    > this except wider range.
    >
    > - It has all features of the other N + Ultra Range + Giga + Its own
    >
    > - It has built-in 1gbps LAN ports/connections for greater speed
    >
    > - It has option to create Private, Guess, and free Wi-Fi with separated PW.
    > This is lot more than my other routers so I will have to learn more about
    > this.
    >
    > - It has option to connect an external storage (to USB port) for file
    > sharing, and I think it can act as a FTP server for remoted systems or
    > something. This I will have to read more.
    >
    > And lot more but I don't know much about them to share here, so far I am
    > quite please with what I read. And I guess I may have to ask some experted
    > here for more information about the E3000 (or advanced features/options) and
    > I pass some info I think I understand for correction then learn from it? And
    > I didn't know much about these features/options til I downloaded and started
    > reading the DPF manual (the E3000 doesn't come with paper manual or
    > instruction, just the E3000 and a DVD).


    And for anyone who wants to download the DPF manual. I found this link
    and still reading it.

    http://home.cisco.com/assets/presski...s/e3000_ug.pdf

    Also, I just watched the short video instruction how to setup the Linksys
    router, and I believe they forget to tell newbie to connect the MODEM to
    their router.

  5. #5
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    "Joe" <Joe@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
    news:aeo9t59fku3c6td3ci2lp51qtaus5puthc@4ax.com...

    >
    > I don't know what to do with the external storage and others yet, but I
    > think I can figure it out later. I do have wireless laser printer and
    > couple extra 1GB external hard drives so I can give it a try (may be may
    > be
    > not).
    >


    just out of curiosity, got more than one puter on your network (or an old
    one?) i have an older laptop... wireless with a few broken keys, but use it
    an always on catchall/smart network device Got a few TB usb drives, usb
    printer etc on it, and use it from my other puters (even my ipod!) rather
    than try to install on each device it self, i use it over the network as
    sort of a poor mans network storage + network print server, or for big data
    transfers, just plug the big drive into the usb port on other machines....

    was what you typed above 1 GB external drives a typo, or do you really have
    old 1 gig external drives? (heck, my USB flash drives are 32 and 64 Gig) if
    that small, consider getting a boat and using them for anchors


  6. #6
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    "Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
    news:vo3bt51kqivdll8q00gi5adandhljnl5ho@4ax.com...
    > Also, I just watched the short video instruction how to setup the Linksys
    > router, and I believe they forget to tell newbie to connect the MODEM to
    > their router.




    its not required to have internet access/modem connections to set it up,
    only prefferred AFTER it is set up to use it with the internet, but you can
    do networking without internet access..

    ie, networking and routers is a different thing than the internet....


  7. #7
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    "Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
    news:ac2bt5p6i73vb84b5dcjgdoan2pq5deb8m@4ax.com...

    (I assume that E1000 is the replacement of WRT160N
    > and E2000 is the GIGA model).
    >


    nope, you assume wrong, new product, not a "replacement"


  8. #8
    Joel
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    "Peter Pan" <NotDeadYetNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:

    > "Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
    > news:vo3bt51kqivdll8q00gi5adandhljnl5ho@4ax.com...
    > > Also, I just watched the short video instruction how to setup the Linksys
    > > router, and I believe they forget to tell newbie to connect the MODEM to
    > > their router.

    >
    >
    > its not required to have internet access/modem connections to set it up,
    > only prefferred AFTER it is set up to use it with the internet, but you can
    > do networking without internet access..
    >
    > ie, networking and routers is a different thing than the internet....


    I see, I was thinking ther setup will try to make connection to internet.

  9. #9
    Joel
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    "Peter Pan" <NotDeadYetNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:

    > "Joe" <Joe@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
    > news:aeo9t59fku3c6td3ci2lp51qtaus5puthc@4ax.com...
    >
    > >
    > > I don't know what to do with the external storage and others yet, but I
    > > think I can figure it out later. I do have wireless laser printer and
    > > couple extra 1GB external hard drives so I can give it a try (may be may
    > > be
    > > not).
    > >

    >
    > just out of curiosity, got more than one puter on your network (or an old
    > one?) i have an older laptop... wireless with a few broken keys, but use it
    > an always on catchall/smart network device Got a few TB usb drives, usb
    > printer etc on it, and use it from my other puters (even my ipod!) rather
    > than try to install on each device it self, i use it over the network as
    > sort of a poor mans network storage + network print server, or for big data
    > transfers, just plug the big drive into the usb port on other machines....


    At home I have 2 desktops wired to router, 1 laptop and 1 Wii which also
    have built-in wireless for news, wearther, playing online against people
    around the globe etc.. (I don't play game to know much about it, just for my
    grandkids).

    And when bigger grandkids off college each has his/her own laptop and
    that's when I have [problem with my current rounter that won't allow more
    than 1 wireless connection.

    Since I use computer for video and photo, so the computer itself has
    4.5TB, and 4 external USB drives (2 500GB and 2 1TB).

    Even I have been using LAN for many years, but I mostly wired my desktops
    to router or having some extra connector available for laptop. But couple
    years ago, the grandkids get older, laptop gets cheaper so they started
    using wireless.

    Man, it's so crazy here as some of my grandkids barely able to walk
    straight, some still wearing diaper, holding bottle etc. and their parents
    have their old laptops setup for them to play online game hehehe

    > was what you typed above 1 GB external drives a typo, or do you really have
    > old 1 gig external drives? (heck, my USB flash drives are 32 and 64 Gig) if
    > that small, consider getting a boat and using them for anchors


    Typo, I meant 1TB. Wait for a second, if counting all the external hard
    drives then I have 7 of them, and even the Wii has 500GB hard drive (2
    portable hard drives are/were part of photography gear now I use larger
    memory cards). Talking about memory card, I may have around 50-60 of them.
    I mainly use SF but some cellphones and GPSes use SDHC, the newer Nuvi 1490T
    uses Micro SDHC (I don't remember I have 8GB or 16GB for this one).

  10. #10
    Joel
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    "Peter Pan" <NotDeadYetNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:

    > "Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
    > news:ac2bt5p6i73vb84b5dcjgdoan2pq5deb8m@4ax.com...
    >
    > (I assume that E1000 is the replacement of WRT160N
    > > and E2000 is the GIGA model).
    > >

    >
    > nope, you assume wrong, new product, not a "replacement"


    You may be right depending on how we look at it, and since the Cisco
    hasn't discontinued the WRT160N then replacement may not be the corrected
    term. But if it's an improvement of the older model then it could be
    consider replacement (not?).

    OK, I just installed the E3000 and it took a little longer than all my
    previous routers, and it had me worried a little. That's why I never rush
    but taking my time to prepare for it.

    - On my older routers, I believe the routers found the IP right away. The
    E3000, I tried and tried and tried but no go until I reboot the system. I
    tried

    a. pressing the REBOOT button from the setup menu several times

    b. I unplugged the router and modem still no go.

    - SERVER NAME, I still can't find any option to name or change the default
    name to a specific name. And I don't think it would cause any problem as
    it's LOCAL.

    - The "Wireless" and "WI-Fi" part I can change the NAME and PW which I did,
    but haven't tested yet to know more. I will try to connect the Wii and
    Laptop later tonite see if I can be able to connect to more than one
    wireless.

    - SECURITY, I don't know much about the difference so I use the default
    WPA2/WPA Mixed Mode for the wireless.

    Any suggestion on this?

    - I tried the "speedtest.net" and get similar average speed of the older "G"
    router. Also, I never cared for the speed test but just started yesterday
    to see if it will show any difference. I do understand that the speed may
    vary depending on the time, or it may get faster speed at night when most
    kids are in bed. Yesterday I got close ro 30Mbs

    Now, I get 20.65M/bs and 2.19M/bs

    And I may give it another test later 2nite, and when I replace the old
    SB5120 with the newer SB6120 DOCSIS 3 (probably sometime next month).

    P.S. Since some of you guys have helped me on this one so I try to report
    the progess hoping it will help others from my error.

    Also, I just decided to test the connections and I was able to connect
    *both* Wii and Laptop, and this is the first time for many years. Am I too
    a wireless experted now, not? hehehe


  11. #11
    Joel
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    Hehehehe I really don't know if I have accidently installed the E3000
    using the Advanced Setup or the BASIC setup. Or I don't know the difference
    and what the Advanced has that BASIC doesn't.

    All I know that I ran the SETUP from DVD, then it sent me to web setting
    (using 192.168.1.0) and I just browsed most of the basic setting I saw on
    other routers. And since I don't know much about all the fancy setting, I
    really don't change anything besides the NAMES of Wireless and Wi-Fi
    servers.

    All I really want is to get the router running, be able to connect more
    than one wireless system to it and that's all I want to get thing started.
    And I also read the warning (don't remember which part of the setting)
    telling me that using either Web or Cisco setting (I don't remember which
    cuz I am now confused if I was using web or Cisco???) then I may not be able
    to connect to Cisco (or something like that).

    OK, I get bored so started asking for trouble. I was trying to see if I
    can connect to Cisco network, but I got the report saying that the router
    already setup so it doesn't give any option to connect to anywhere.

    Then I clicked on the "View Detail" and get this report

    ====================
    Error code: 82BD0100
    Error description: The administrator password is incorrect.
    Model name: unknown
    Model number: E3000
    Serial number: unknown
    Firmware version: unknown
    Operating system: Windows 7
    Software version: 1.0.10028.0
    Connection type (WAN): unknown
    IP address (LAN): unknown
    IP address (WAN): unknown
    Computer IP address: 192.168.1.116
    =======================

    See the ERROR and UNKNOWN. And I didn't know this option to check before
    setup. I am not worry about the ERROR and UNKNOWN but just paste the report
    here for extra info, and other may have the similar question.

    BTW, I did change the Admin Password which is usually the first thing I
    change to all routers I have had. I still have some question about the
    Wi-Fi stuff, but don't know what to ask yet. And the FTP sever, and the
    built-in firewall which has more option than the other routers I have.

  12. #12
    Joel
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    If you don't mind me asking another dumb question. As a slower learner I
    often or always try to gather as much information as I possible can, and
    taking my time installing new toy. As you may have reas that it took me
    many years to upgrade the router just to be able to solve the
    multi-connections issue I had for so many years.

    Now, I got the Cisco E3000, installed it after lot of reading and sweating
    (about the experts having some problem with some thing). I have read the

    - Basic setting

    - Advanced Setting

    - Web setting

    - Cisco Connecting etc..

    And after I got the router working, I still don't know if I used the
    Basic, Advanced, Web, or Cisco setting. All I know that I inserted the
    CD/DVD and following the step-by-step instruction how to hook up the cable,
    then NEXT and waited for the router doiung some checking or setting
    whatever. That's it.

    Then I clicked on something and it sent the "192.168.1.0" (or 192.168.0.1
    whatever) to browser and it was in Web Setting, or Advanced Setting, or
    Cisco setting.. I still dunno know.

    I read and quite afew people mention about some setting in web setting may
    disable the Cisco Connecting, and I believe I saw the warning from the
    setting (I don't think I selected that option?). Now I try to check the
    Cisco Connection and dunno where to find it.... I tried to run the SETUP
    from CD/DVD and it said the router already setup.

    And I read *if* something discable the Cisco Connection then I may have to
    RESET the router etc.. and I have no idea where I am at.

    Also, how do I check to see which BAND I am using (2.4M/hz or 5M/hz), and
    any advantage or disadvantage between those 2 modes? I feel like I wasn't
    born for advanced tech.

  13. #13
    Tony Hwang
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    Joel wrote:
    > If you don't mind me asking another dumb question. As a slower learner I
    > often or always try to gather as much information as I possible can, and
    > taking my time installing new toy. As you may have reas that it took me
    > many years to upgrade the router just to be able to solve the
    > multi-connections issue I had for so many years.
    >
    > Now, I got the Cisco E3000, installed it after lot of reading and sweating
    > (about the experts having some problem with some thing). I have read the
    >
    > - Basic setting
    >
    > - Advanced Setting
    >
    > - Web setting
    >
    > - Cisco Connecting etc..
    >
    > And after I got the router working, I still don't know if I used the
    > Basic, Advanced, Web, or Cisco setting. All I know that I inserted the
    > CD/DVD and following the step-by-step instruction how to hook up the cable,
    > then NEXT and waited for the router doiung some checking or setting
    > whatever. That's it.
    >
    > Then I clicked on something and it sent the "192.168.1.0" (or 192.168.0.1
    > whatever) to browser and it was in Web Setting, or Advanced Setting, or
    > Cisco setting.. I still dunno know.
    >
    > I read and quite afew people mention about some setting in web setting may
    > disable the Cisco Connecting, and I believe I saw the warning from the
    > setting (I don't think I selected that option?). Now I try to check the
    > Cisco Connection and dunno where to find it.... I tried to run the SETUP
    > from CD/DVD and it said the router already setup.
    >
    > And I read *if* something discable the Cisco Connection then I may have to
    > RESET the router etc.. and I have no idea where I am at.
    >
    > Also, how do I check to see which BAND I am using (2.4M/hz or 5M/hz), and
    > any advantage or disadvantage between those 2 modes? I feel like I wasn't
    > born for advanced tech.

    Hi,
    Let's compae it to car drivers. There are automotive vehicle operator
    and driver. Do you know the difference? I am using older WRT610N using
    both bands. I read one comparison testing between E3000 and WRT600N.
    The difference was barely 10%. I have a E3000 on the way for my own
    evaluation.

  14. #14
    Joel
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

    > Joel wrote:
    > > If you don't mind me asking another dumb question. As a slower learner I
    > > often or always try to gather as much information as I possible can, and
    > > taking my time installing new toy. As you may have reas that it took me
    > > many years to upgrade the router just to be able to solve the
    > > multi-connections issue I had for so many years.
    > >
    > > Now, I got the Cisco E3000, installed it after lot of reading and sweating
    > > (about the experts having some problem with some thing). I have read the
    > >
    > > - Basic setting
    > >
    > > - Advanced Setting
    > >
    > > - Web setting
    > >
    > > - Cisco Connecting etc..
    > >
    > > And after I got the router working, I still don't know if I used the
    > > Basic, Advanced, Web, or Cisco setting. All I know that I inserted the
    > > CD/DVD and following the step-by-step instruction how to hook up the cable,
    > > then NEXT and waited for the router doiung some checking or setting
    > > whatever. That's it.
    > >
    > > Then I clicked on something and it sent the "192.168.1.0" (or 192.168.0.1
    > > whatever) to browser and it was in Web Setting, or Advanced Setting, or
    > > Cisco setting.. I still dunno know.
    > >
    > > I read and quite afew people mention about some setting in web setting may
    > > disable the Cisco Connecting, and I believe I saw the warning from the
    > > setting (I don't think I selected that option?). Now I try to check the
    > > Cisco Connection and dunno where to find it.... I tried to run the SETUP
    > > from CD/DVD and it said the router already setup.
    > >
    > > And I read *if* something discable the Cisco Connection then I may have to
    > > RESET the router etc.. and I have no idea where I am at.
    > >
    > > Also, how do I check to see which BAND I am using (2.4M/hz or 5M/hz), and
    > > any advantage or disadvantage between those 2 modes? I feel like I wasn't
    > > born for advanced tech.

    > Hi,
    > Let's compae it to car drivers. There are automotive vehicle operator
    > and driver. Do you know the difference? I am using older WRT610N using
    > both bands. I read one comparison testing between E3000 and WRT600N.
    > The difference was barely 10%. I have a E3000 on the way for my own
    > evaluation.


    Well, this isn't the answer I looking for, I don't expect much difference
    between the similar products, or different brands with similar technology. I
    am looking for the answer for my confusion cuz of lacking of experience.

    I did run into some speed test between NetGear vs Linksys/Cisco, but I
    don't care much for the speed at the moment, and that's why I have mentioned
    about looking to retire my old Motorola SB5120 with newer SB6120 see if I
    can squeeze some juice out of the COX speed. Although, I am quite happy
    with the current speed (not the fastest but I don't really need any faster)
    that I been testing several times a day in the past few days (be prepared
    for next upgrade) and the speed can go somewhere around 9Mb/s -> 25Mb/s
    (download) and pretty stable at around 2Mb/s - > 2.5Mb/s. Once speedtest
    reported the download speed reached around 35Mb/s but only once.

    OK, since you are Linksys ownerm would you give me some info about the
    difference between those settings, or based on the conversations I read
    sometime I feel like I was in the BASIC setting, sometime at the Advanced
    Setting, sometime at the Web setting mode, and sometime at the Cisco
    Connecting setting mode. Or I am happy to get it running, but just want to
    know where I am at or where I were ... so confusing.

    Cuz all the routers I had before don't have this type of information or I
    just use the web setting. And I read that Web Setting and Cisco Setting are
    two different beasts they not only don't like each other but even against
    each other. I read that it uses 2 different programs to setup different
    parts of the router, and one setup could disable other which may require
    factory reset to bring back the option to screw up again hehehe.


  15. #15
    Tony Hwang
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    Joel wrote:
    > Tony Hwang<dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
    >
    >> Joel wrote:
    >>> If you don't mind me asking another dumb question. As a slower learner I
    >>> often or always try to gather as much information as I possible can, and
    >>> taking my time installing new toy. As you may have reas that it took me
    >>> many years to upgrade the router just to be able to solve the
    >>> multi-connections issue I had for so many years.
    >>>
    >>> Now, I got the Cisco E3000, installed it after lot of reading and sweating
    >>> (about the experts having some problem with some thing). I have read the
    >>>
    >>> - Basic setting
    >>>
    >>> - Advanced Setting
    >>>
    >>> - Web setting
    >>>
    >>> - Cisco Connecting etc..
    >>>
    >>> And after I got the router working, I still don't know if I used the
    >>> Basic, Advanced, Web, or Cisco setting. All I know that I inserted the
    >>> CD/DVD and following the step-by-step instruction how to hook up the cable,
    >>> then NEXT and waited for the router doiung some checking or setting
    >>> whatever. That's it.
    >>>
    >>> Then I clicked on something and it sent the "192.168.1.0" (or 192.168.0.1
    >>> whatever) to browser and it was in Web Setting, or Advanced Setting, or
    >>> Cisco setting.. I still dunno know.
    >>>
    >>> I read and quite afew people mention about some setting in web setting may
    >>> disable the Cisco Connecting, and I believe I saw the warning from the
    >>> setting (I don't think I selected that option?). Now I try to check the
    >>> Cisco Connection and dunno where to find it.... I tried to run the SETUP
    >>> from CD/DVD and it said the router already setup.
    >>>
    >>> And I read *if* something discable the Cisco Connection then I may have to
    >>> RESET the router etc.. and I have no idea where I am at.
    >>>
    >>> Also, how do I check to see which BAND I am using (2.4M/hz or 5M/hz), and
    >>> any advantage or disadvantage between those 2 modes? I feel like I wasn't
    >>> born for advanced tech.

    >> Hi,
    >> Let's compae it to car drivers. There are automotive vehicle operator
    >> and driver. Do you know the difference? I am using older WRT610N using
    >> both bands. I read one comparison testing between E3000 and WRT600N.
    >> The difference was barely 10%. I have a E3000 on the way for my own
    >> evaluation.

    >
    > Well, this isn't the answer I looking for, I don't expect much difference
    > between the similar products, or different brands with similar technology. I
    > am looking for the answer for my confusion cuz of lacking of experience.
    >
    > I did run into some speed test between NetGear vs Linksys/Cisco, but I
    > don't care much for the speed at the moment, and that's why I have mentioned
    > about looking to retire my old Motorola SB5120 with newer SB6120 see if I
    > can squeeze some juice out of the COX speed. Although, I am quite happy
    > with the current speed (not the fastest but I don't really need any faster)
    > that I been testing several times a day in the past few days (be prepared
    > for next upgrade) and the speed can go somewhere around 9Mb/s -> 25Mb/s
    > (download) and pretty stable at around 2Mb/s -> 2.5Mb/s. Once speedtest
    > reported the download speed reached around 35Mb/s but only once.
    >
    > OK, since you are Linksys ownerm would you give me some info about the
    > difference between those settings, or based on the conversations I read
    > sometime I feel like I was in the BASIC setting, sometime at the Advanced
    > Setting, sometime at the Web setting mode, and sometime at the Cisco
    > Connecting setting mode. Or I am happy to get it running, but just want to
    > know where I am at or where I were ... so confusing.
    >
    > Cuz all the routers I had before don't have this type of information or I
    > just use the web setting. And I read that Web Setting and Cisco Setting are
    > two different beasts they not only don't like each other but even against
    > each other. I read that it uses 2 different programs to setup different
    > parts of the router, and one setup could disable other which may require
    > factory reset to bring back the option to screw up again hehehe.
    >

    Hi,
    I really don't fathom what you are trying to do.
    If you have a specific question, maybe forum at Cisco site
    is the place to go. I am just wondering if E3000 is Linux
    driven so it is a dd-wrt candidate.

  16. #16
    Char Jackson
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 04:34:14 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:

    > I did run into some speed test between NetGear vs Linksys/Cisco, but I
    >don't care much for the speed at the moment, and that's why I have mentioned
    >about looking to retire my old Motorola SB5120 with newer SB6120 see if I
    >can squeeze some juice out of the COX speed. Although, I am quite happy
    >with the current speed (not the fastest but I don't really need any faster)
    >that I been testing several times a day in the past few days (be prepared
    >for next upgrade) and the speed can go somewhere around 9Mb/s -> 25Mb/s
    >(download) and pretty stable at around 2Mb/s - > 2.5Mb/s. Once speedtest
    >reported the download speed reached around 35Mb/s but only once.


    A new modem isn't going to provide faster throughput unless your
    existing modem is broken.

    You pay for a certain service level. We don't know what that level is,
    but you should. Are you getting what you're paying for? If so, the
    best way to get more speed is to buy a higher service level. In the
    unlikely event that you buy a service level that your existing modem
    isn't capable of, only then does it make sense to buy a new (faster)
    modem. If you lease your modem, your cable company will take care of
    this automatically.


  17. #17
    Joel
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

    > Joel wrote:
    > > Tony Hwang<dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
    > >
    > >> Joel wrote:
    > >>> If you don't mind me asking another dumb question. As a slower learner I
    > >>> often or always try to gather as much information as I possible can, and
    > >>> taking my time installing new toy. As you may have reas that it took me
    > >>> many years to upgrade the router just to be able to solve the
    > >>> multi-connections issue I had for so many years.
    > >>>
    > >>> Now, I got the Cisco E3000, installed it after lot of reading and sweating
    > >>> (about the experts having some problem with some thing). I have read the
    > >>>
    > >>> - Basic setting
    > >>>
    > >>> - Advanced Setting
    > >>>
    > >>> - Web setting
    > >>>
    > >>> - Cisco Connecting etc..
    > >>>
    > >>> And after I got the router working, I still don't know if I used the
    > >>> Basic, Advanced, Web, or Cisco setting. All I know that I inserted the
    > >>> CD/DVD and following the step-by-step instruction how to hook up the cable,
    > >>> then NEXT and waited for the router doiung some checking or setting
    > >>> whatever. That's it.
    > >>>
    > >>> Then I clicked on something and it sent the "192.168.1.0" (or 192.168.0.1
    > >>> whatever) to browser and it was in Web Setting, or Advanced Setting, or
    > >>> Cisco setting.. I still dunno know.
    > >>>
    > >>> I read and quite afew people mention about some setting in web setting may
    > >>> disable the Cisco Connecting, and I believe I saw the warning from the
    > >>> setting (I don't think I selected that option?). Now I try to check the
    > >>> Cisco Connection and dunno where to find it.... I tried to run the SETUP
    > >>> from CD/DVD and it said the router already setup.
    > >>>
    > >>> And I read *if* something discable the Cisco Connection then I may have to
    > >>> RESET the router etc.. and I have no idea where I am at.
    > >>>
    > >>> Also, how do I check to see which BAND I am using (2.4M/hz or 5M/hz), and
    > >>> any advantage or disadvantage between those 2 modes? I feel like I wasn't
    > >>> born for advanced tech.
    > >> Hi,
    > >> Let's compae it to car drivers. There are automotive vehicle operator
    > >> and driver. Do you know the difference? I am using older WRT610N using
    > >> both bands. I read one comparison testing between E3000 and WRT600N.
    > >> The difference was barely 10%. I have a E3000 on the way for my own
    > >> evaluation.

    > >
    > > Well, this isn't the answer I looking for, I don't expect much difference
    > > between the similar products, or different brands with similar technology. I
    > > am looking for the answer for my confusion cuz of lacking of experience.
    > >
    > > I did run into some speed test between NetGear vs Linksys/Cisco, but I
    > > don't care much for the speed at the moment, and that's why I have mentioned
    > > about looking to retire my old Motorola SB5120 with newer SB6120 see if I
    > > can squeeze some juice out of the COX speed. Although, I am quite happy
    > > with the current speed (not the fastest but I don't really need any faster)
    > > that I been testing several times a day in the past few days (be prepared
    > > for next upgrade) and the speed can go somewhere around 9Mb/s -> 25Mb/s
    > > (download) and pretty stable at around 2Mb/s -> 2.5Mb/s. Once speedtest
    > > reported the download speed reached around 35Mb/s but only once.
    > >
    > > OK, since you are Linksys ownerm would you give me some info about the
    > > difference between those settings, or based on the conversations I read
    > > sometime I feel like I was in the BASIC setting, sometime at the Advanced
    > > Setting, sometime at the Web setting mode, and sometime at the Cisco
    > > Connecting setting mode. Or I am happy to get it running, but just want to
    > > know where I am at or where I were ... so confusing.
    > >
    > > Cuz all the routers I had before don't have this type of information or I
    > > just use the web setting. And I read that Web Setting and Cisco Setting are
    > > two different beasts they not only don't like each other but even against
    > > each other. I read that it uses 2 different programs to setup different
    > > parts of the router, and one setup could disable other which may require
    > > factory reset to bring back the option to screw up again hehehe.
    > >

    > Hi,
    > I really don't fathom what you are trying to do.
    > If you have a specific question, maybe forum at Cisco site
    > is the place to go. I am just wondering if E3000 is Linux
    > driven so it is a dd-wrt candidate.


    Well, if I can get good information from Cisco site then I wouldn't have
    to pay $$$ and spending time reading and asking question here. Here, I
    spend hours in the past few days reading many conversations of many web
    forums, even downloaded a large DPF manual with settting instruction,
    reading the online help etc. but

    - The online help (when setting) covers most options but not all

    - The PDF has much more information than I really need, but they don't cover
    everything either. And the sad part that the PICTURES are so blur that I
    can't be able to see, or if they try to use PHOTO then they should make sure
    that the photo is readable.

    - I stopped by Cisco site few times and can't even be able to find the
    manual, I end up Google for the link. IOW, the manual comes from Cisco site
    but the web isn't designed for manual seeker, or asking question etc..

    I don't know about the E3000 but I read one of the E2000 (E2000L ?) has
    Linux supported. And I am not Linux user to know much about it, and I found
    the info from the ads not Cisco site.

  18. #18
    Joel
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:

    > On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 04:34:14 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
    >
    > > I did run into some speed test between NetGear vs Linksys/Cisco, but I
    > >don't care much for the speed at the moment, and that's why I have mentioned
    > >about looking to retire my old Motorola SB5120 with newer SB6120 see if I
    > >can squeeze some juice out of the COX speed. Although, I am quite happy
    > >with the current speed (not the fastest but I don't really need any faster)
    > >that I been testing several times a day in the past few days (be prepared
    > >for next upgrade) and the speed can go somewhere around 9Mb/s -> 25Mb/s
    > >(download) and pretty stable at around 2Mb/s - > 2.5Mb/s. Once speedtest
    > >reported the download speed reached around 35Mb/s but only once.

    >
    > A new modem isn't going to provide faster throughput unless your
    > existing modem is broken.


    In general I agree with you on this one, but in some case a newer
    technology may do something that older technology can't.

    I just ordered the SB6120 and will report the result here in couple days.

    > You pay for a certain service level. We don't know what that level is,
    > but you should. Are you getting what you're paying for? If so, the
    > best way to get more speed is to buy a higher service level. In the
    > unlikely event that you buy a service level that your existing modem
    > isn't capable of, only then does it make sense to buy a new (faster)
    > modem. If you lease your modem, your cable company will take care of
    > this automatically.


    In general, again I agree with you. But in some case(s)

    - We may underpower of what we pay for.

    - With the right tool we may be able to pull few extra juice that the older
    tech can't.

    As I said, I am ok with the current speed even the speed could reduce to
    8-10Mb/s in the evening when students off school, and pumps up to 25+Mb/s
    when they are asleep. But to me $83 is a small price for the lesson/answer
    so I won't mind abit, and I can assume that the current SB5120 is broken (or
    it has served me well enough).

    I don't expect it's going to be much or any faster, but I guess that it
    probably handle the heavy load better (as it's kinda like multiple modems
    joined together).

  19. #19
    Char Jackson
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:34:34 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:

    >Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
    >
    >> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 04:34:14 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
    >>
    >> > I did run into some speed test between NetGear vs Linksys/Cisco, but I
    >> >don't care much for the speed at the moment, and that's why I have mentioned
    >> >about looking to retire my old Motorola SB5120 with newer SB6120 see if I
    >> >can squeeze some juice out of the COX speed. Although, I am quite happy
    >> >with the current speed (not the fastest but I don't really need any faster)
    >> >that I been testing several times a day in the past few days (be prepared
    >> >for next upgrade) and the speed can go somewhere around 9Mb/s -> 25Mb/s
    >> >(download) and pretty stable at around 2Mb/s - > 2.5Mb/s. Once speedtest
    >> >reported the download speed reached around 35Mb/s but only once.

    >>
    >> A new modem isn't going to provide faster throughput unless your
    >> existing modem is broken.

    >
    > In general I agree with you on this one, but in some case a newer
    >technology may do something that older technology can't.
    >
    > I just ordered the SB6120 and will report the result here in couple days.


    If possible, avoid the web-based speed test sites and download a large
    (several hundred megabyte) file using about 4-10 simultaneous
    connections. A download manager (www.freedownloadmanager.org is a good
    one) or a Usenet client that's capable of opening multiple concurrent
    connections will easily saturate your downstream pipe, clearly showing
    what your connection is capable of. The web-based speed test sites use
    small data objects and don't provide reliable results.

    >> You pay for a certain service level. We don't know what that level is,
    >> but you should. Are you getting what you're paying for? If so, the
    >> best way to get more speed is to buy a higher service level. In the
    >> unlikely event that you buy a service level that your existing modem
    >> isn't capable of, only then does it make sense to buy a new (faster)
    >> modem. If you lease your modem, your cable company will take care of
    >> this automatically.

    >
    > In general, again I agree with you. But in some case(s)
    >
    >- We may underpower of what we pay for.
    >
    >- With the right tool we may be able to pull few extra juice that the older
    >tech can't.


    The 5120 is a fine modem for anything less than DOCSIS 3 service
    plans. Assuming proper signal levels and nothing else is out of whack,
    it will work as good as the 6120 will until you upgrade to DOCSIS 3.

    > As I said, I am ok with the current speed even the speed could reduce to
    >8-10Mb/s in the evening when students off school, and pumps up to 25+Mb/s
    >when they are asleep. But to me $83 is a small price for the lesson/answer
    >so I won't mind abit, and I can assume that the current SB5120 is broken (or
    >it has served me well enough).
    >
    > I don't expect it's going to be much or any faster, but I guess that it
    >probably handle the heavy load better (as it's kinda like multiple modems
    >joined together).


    Only if you upgrade to a DOCSIS 3 service tier, assuming such a tier
    is available in your area. If not, it's no different than what you
    already have. I assume you've checked with your cable provider to
    verify that the 6120 is even supported.


  20. #20
    Joel
    Guest

    Re: Got the Cisco E3000

    Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:

    > On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:34:34 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
    >
    > >Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
    > >
    > >> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 04:34:14 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> > I did run into some speed test between NetGear vs Linksys/Cisco, but I
    > >> >don't care much for the speed at the moment, and that's why I have mentioned
    > >> >about looking to retire my old Motorola SB5120 with newer SB6120 see if I
    > >> >can squeeze some juice out of the COX speed. Although, I am quite happy
    > >> >with the current speed (not the fastest but I don't really need any faster)
    > >> >that I been testing several times a day in the past few days (be prepared
    > >> >for next upgrade) and the speed can go somewhere around 9Mb/s -> 25Mb/s
    > >> >(download) and pretty stable at around 2Mb/s - > 2.5Mb/s. Once speedtest
    > >> >reported the download speed reached around 35Mb/s but only once.
    > >>
    > >> A new modem isn't going to provide faster throughput unless your
    > >> existing modem is broken.

    > >
    > > In general I agree with you on this one, but in some case a newer
    > >technology may do something that older technology can't.
    > >
    > > I just ordered the SB6120 and will report the result here in couple days.

    >
    > If possible, avoid the web-based speed test sites and download a large
    > (several hundred megabyte) file using about 4-10 simultaneous
    > connections. A download manager (www.freedownloadmanager.org is a good
    > one) or a Usenet client that's capable of opening multiple concurrent
    > connections will easily saturate your downstream pipe, clearly showing
    > what your connection is capable of. The web-based speed test sites use
    > small data objects and don't provide reliable results.


    Right now I am just try to do the basic testing *before* the SB6120 arrive
    so I won't have to bang my head to the wall saying that I should do it when
    I have the chance.

    And I believe I should be able to see the difference in the next few day.
    If not this weekend then probably next Monday.

    > >> You pay for a certain service level. We don't know what that level is,
    > >> but you should. Are you getting what you're paying for? If so, the
    > >> best way to get more speed is to buy a higher service level. In the
    > >> unlikely event that you buy a service level that your existing modem
    > >> isn't capable of, only then does it make sense to buy a new (faster)
    > >> modem. If you lease your modem, your cable company will take care of
    > >> this automatically.

    > >
    > > In general, again I agree with you. But in some case(s)
    > >
    > >- We may underpower of what we pay for.
    > >
    > >- With the right tool we may be able to pull few extra juice that the older
    > >tech can't.

    >
    > The 5120 is a fine modem for anything less than DOCSIS 3 service
    > plans. Assuming proper signal levels and nothing else is out of whack,
    > it will work as good as the 6120 will until you upgrade to DOCSIS 3.


    *If* you comparing the SPEED and feature of the modems than as I said you
    are 100% correct in general. But if you compare what both modem can and
    can't do, then who know you may not right.

    IOW, if you are not pay for DOSCIS 3 service or you pay for DOSCIS 2.0
    service but your DOSCIS 1.0 modem can't even reach the DOSCIS 2 speed then
    even nothing wrong with the DOSCIS 1.0 (it isn't broken) but it can't get
    the max speed out of the DOSCIS 2.0 service. You may say that there is no
    DOSCIS 2.0 service, then again you may be right but I am talking about the
    MAX Speed whatever your service has to offer but your modem can't.

    > > As I said, I am ok with the current speed even the speed could reduce to
    > >8-10Mb/s in the evening when students off school, and pumps up to 25+Mb/s
    > >when they are asleep. But to me $83 is a small price for the lesson/answer
    > >so I won't mind abit, and I can assume that the current SB5120 is broken (or
    > >it has served me well enough).
    > >
    > > I don't expect it's going to be much or any faster, but I guess that it
    > >probably handle the heavy load better (as it's kinda like multiple modems
    > >joined together).

    >
    > Only if you upgrade to a DOCSIS 3 service tier, assuming such a tier
    > is available in your area. If not, it's no different than what you
    > already have. I assume you've checked with your cable provider to
    > verify that the 6120 is even supported.


    I believe that DOSCIS 3.0 service is available in my area, and I don't
    think I will need DISCIS 3 service to benefit from the better technology
    modem. Of course I won't get 100-300Mb/s, but very possible that I may get
    20-25Mb/s 24/7 instead of dropping to 6-7Mb/s at evening (and who know I may
    get 30-40Mb/s from the current sercice that my SB5120 can't deliver?).

    So, when my SB6120 arrived, installed. Do I report the correct number or
    some fake number either to make you happy or me won't lose face heheheh.

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