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  1. #1
    AnthonyL
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    Wireless connection driving me crazy.

    I have two XP laptops accessing a wireless access point (actually
    currently a Cable & Wireless router just working as an access point).

    Mostly it is fine, but fairly frequently the connection doesn't work,
    with the Wireless network connection showing Connected - Signal
    strength Good, but I have no connection and cannot ping the AP.

    Today for instance I switched on the Lenovo 3000 laptop and got the
    above issue. Ran Network Stumbler and the AP shows up fine. Tried a
    repair connection (sometimes this worked especially on my now defunct
    DLINK AP), then I switched on the Dell Inspiron. Even without logging
    on the Lenovo connection suddenly became active once the Dell had
    booted up.

    Without fail a switch off/on of the C&W AP works as also did when I
    had the Dlink 700AP.

    Currently I'm on fixed IP's but that doesn't make any difference.

    The network is not straightforward and is as shown below:

    C&W AP (home) -> Linksys WAP54G -- 400m wireless bridge mode --
    Linksys WAP54G (office) -> C&W router -> ADSL and LAN

    The Linksys work perfectly, on Channel 6, the C&W AP is on Channel 1.

    Where do I start to get a reliable wireless connection every time?

    Is the a Windows XP wireless issue?

    Many thanks


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  2. #2
    alexd
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    Re: Wireless connection driving me crazy.

    On 19/03/10 15:39, AnthonyL wrote:

    > C&W AP (home) -> Linksys WAP54G -- 400m wireless bridge mode --
    > Linksys WAP54G (office) -> C&W router -> ADSL and LAN
    >
    > The Linksys work perfectly, on Channel 6, the C&W AP is on Channel 1.
    >
    > Where do I start to get a reliable wireless connection every time?
    >
    > Is the a Windows XP wireless issue?


    If multiple machines fail to connect to the same AP, which a reboot of
    the AP fixes, then I can't see how it can be anything other than an
    issue with the AP. Latest firmware on the AP? Tried another AP? If you
    still suspect XP, try booting of a linux live CD and check the wireless
    from that.

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  3. #3
    AnthonyL
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    Re: Wireless connection driving me crazy.

    On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:42:06 +0000, alexd <troffasky@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >On 19/03/10 15:39, AnthonyL wrote:
    >
    >> C&W AP (home) -> Linksys WAP54G -- 400m wireless bridge mode --
    >> Linksys WAP54G (office) -> C&W router -> ADSL and LAN
    >>
    >> The Linksys work perfectly, on Channel 6, the C&W AP is on Channel 1.
    >>
    >> Where do I start to get a reliable wireless connection every time?
    >>
    >> Is the a Windows XP wireless issue?

    >
    >If multiple machines fail to connect to the same AP, which a reboot of
    >the AP fixes, then I can't see how it can be anything other than an
    >issue with the AP.


    But that isn't the only fix. Switching on the Dell often allows the
    Lenovo to connect.

    When I had the Dlink the Lenovo just about always connected but the
    Dell would usually connect only if logged in with my wife's non-admin
    credentials but then would fail when I logged in with admin
    credentials. A repair would usually fix that.

    >Latest firmware on the AP?


    Can't find it.


    >Tried another AP?


    As stated in original post and above two out of two AP's have given
    problems.

    >If you
    >still suspect XP, try booting of a linux live CD and check the wireless
    >from that.


    Good thought.


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  4. #4
    Bob
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    Re: Wireless connection driving me crazy.

    On 20/03/2010 09:38, AnthonyL wrote:

    >> Tried another AP?

    >
    > As stated in original post and above two out of two AP's have given
    > problems.


    Irrespective of that neither of the C&W ADSL Modems have had good reviews.

    "This router has a mind of its own and only chooses to work when it
    wants to, not when you want it to. In order for it to work you have to
    switch it on and off a number of times before the green light remains
    on, otherwise it will just flash and switch off, and you will not be
    able to conect to the internet. Thus on average it takes me 20 minutes
    from when i decide to go online before i can actually connect to the
    internet.

    Also, it goes through these bizarre mood swings when it won’t send out a
    signal even though it appears to be plugged in and switched on... For
    example, you can be surfing the net and all of a sudden you will lose
    your wireless connection and the computer will tell you no wireless
    networks are in range. It then takes about 40 minutes of restarting the
    thing before it works again."
    <http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Wireless-802-11G-ADSL-Router/dp/B0009HJEMO>

    <http://www.deanmarshall.co.uk/store/Action::IFind--ASIN::B000I1OCR8>

    I would try and borrow another AP. Given that these models are several
    years old and do not appear to have access to any firmware upgrades I
    would be looking to replace them.
    When you used "Netstumbler" did you check to see if there were any other
    Channels in use that might cause an intermittent failure?


  5. #5
    AnthonyL
    Guest

    Re: Wireless connection driving me crazy.

    On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:50:01 +0000, Bob <bob@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    >On 20/03/2010 09:38, AnthonyL wrote:
    >
    >>> Tried another AP?

    >>
    >> As stated in original post and above two out of two AP's have given
    >> problems.

    >
    >Irrespective of that neither of the C&W ADSL Modems have had good reviews.
    >
    >"This router has a mind of its own and only chooses to work when it


    <snip>

    ><http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Wireless-802-11G-ADSL-Router/dp/B0009HJEMO>
    >
    ><http://www.deanmarshall.co.uk/store/Action::IFind--ASIN::B000I1OCR8>
    >
    >I would try and borrow another AP. Given that these models are several
    >years old and do not appear to have access to any firmware upgrades I
    >would be looking to replace them.


    I won't disagree with the reviews. I ended up with 2 units, one I use
    as the ADSL router. That is fairly solid and has been for a couple of
    years except the wireless side died. Having said that I'm in a
    'remote' village and the router is hardly being pushed at 1 Mbit/s if
    we are lucky.

    The other is the one that this post refers to, though I have never had
    to do more than a reboot.


    >When you used "Netstumbler" did you check to see if there were any other
    >Channels in use that might cause an intermittent failure?
    >


    There is a neighbour a few houses down who also uses Channel 1. The
    signal is pretty weak.


    Any recommendation for a solid adsl/wireless router + switch? I would
    be buying two, one for use as the ADSL router, one for use as the AP
    point, but the AP would serve as a backup for the main ADSL
    connection.

    Thanks


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  6. #6
    Bill Kearney
    Guest

    Re: Wireless connection driving me crazy.

    > That is fairly solid and has been for a couple of
    > years except the wireless side died.


    Just get rid of the piece of **** C&W router and be done with your troubles.
    Honestly, routers are cheap these days, replace it with something else and
    move on.


  7. #7
    Joel
    Guest

    Re: Wireless connection driving me crazy.

    "Bill Kearney" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote:

    > > That is fairly solid and has been for a couple of
    > > years except the wireless side died.

    >
    > Just get rid of the piece of **** C&W router and be done with your troubles.
    > Honestly, routers are cheap these days, replace it with something else and
    > move on.


    What is "piece of **** C&W" that you got rid of?

    To be hornest, I agree with you that router is dirt cheap these days, and
    I got the one recommend by some experts here. My Buffalo works pretty nice
    except I can connect more than 1 wireless.

    Yes, I have (at least I tried) setting it to allow I don't remember 10-60
    connections even we only have 5 notebooks, but just can't connect to more
    than one wireless.

    And I am thinking about replacing it with the LinkSys that many experts
    here bitching about Linksys. But at least it works with my nephews and
    cousin.

  8. #8
    Peter Pan
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    Re: Wireless connection driving me crazy.

    "Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
    news:pgnpq5po60405k48qfo4fars8mbo1irkqv@4ax.com...

    >
    > To be hornest, I agree with you that router is dirt cheap these days, and
    > I got the one recommend by some experts here. My Buffalo works pretty
    > nice
    > except I can connect more than 1 wireless.
    >
    > Yes, I have (at least I tried) setting it to allow I don't remember 10-60
    > connections even we only have 5 notebooks, but just can't connect to more
    > than one wireless.
    >
    > And I am thinking about replacing it with the LinkSys that many experts
    > here bitching about Linksys. But at least it works with my nephews and
    > cousin.




    i have to wonder what you mean by "one wireless"... do you mean wireless
    NETWORK, wireless DEVICE, wireless etc?

    if you happen to mean wireless DEVICES (like notebooks) thats a pretty sure
    sign you have the dhcp server turned off, if you happen to mean wireless
    NETWORKS, there are very few clients that connect to/share multiple wireless
    networks at the same time


    rule of thumb, reset it to factory defaults, turn off any firewalls on your
    computer, and see if it works BEFORE you changed it


  9. #9
    Joel
    Guest

    Re: Wireless connection driving me crazy.

    "Peter Pan" <NotDeadYetNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:

    > "Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
    > news:pgnpq5po60405k48qfo4fars8mbo1irkqv@4ax.com...
    >
    > >
    > > To be hornest, I agree with you that router is dirt cheap these days, and
    > > I got the one recommend by some experts here. My Buffalo works pretty
    > > nice
    > > except I can connect more than 1 wireless.
    > >
    > > Yes, I have (at least I tried) setting it to allow I don't remember 10-60
    > > connections even we only have 5 notebooks, but just can't connect to more
    > > than one wireless.
    > >
    > > And I am thinking about replacing it with the LinkSys that many experts
    > > here bitching about Linksys. But at least it works with my nephews and
    > > cousin.

    >
    > i have to wonder what you mean by "one wireless"... do you mean wireless
    > NETWORK, wireless DEVICE, wireless etc?
    >
    > if you happen to mean wireless DEVICES (like notebooks) thats a pretty sure
    > sign you have the dhcp server turned off, if you happen to mean wireless
    > NETWORKS, there are very few clients that connect to/share multiple wireless
    > networks at the same time
    >
    >
    > rule of thumb, reset it to factory defaults, turn off any firewalls on your
    > computer, and see if it works BEFORE you changed it


    Wireless network! I have tried just about everything but just no go, I
    Google for the answer but don't find the answer to the similar problem.

    - I have reset to factory several times

    - I tried without firewall

    - It never work before, or the problem has been going on for years.

  10. #10
    alexd
    Guest

    Re: Wireless connection driving me crazy.

    On 27/03/10 12:33, Joel wrote:

    > Wireless network! I have tried just about everything but just no go, I
    > Google for the answer but don't find the answer to the similar problem.
    >
    > - I have reset to factory several times
    >
    > - I tried without firewall
    >
    > - It never work before, or the problem has been going on for years.


    Hmm, some more clarification needed, I think. By 'network', do you mean
    you want more than one SSID on your AP [virtual access points], or do
    you mean that you want to use it as a client-bridge to more than one
    other wireless network? The latter is an unusual requirement [to say the
    least] but if it's possible with the Buffalo hardware you have then
    DD-WRT should let you do it. The former is easy enough, certainly with
    DD-WRT.

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  11. #11
    Joel
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    Re: Wireless connection driving me crazy.

    alexd <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:

    > On 27/03/10 12:33, Joel wrote:
    >
    > > Wireless network! I have tried just about everything but just no go, I
    > > Google for the answer but don't find the answer to the similar problem.
    > >
    > > - I have reset to factory several times
    > >
    > > - I tried without firewall
    > >
    > > - It never work before, or the problem has been going on for years.

    >
    > Hmm, some more clarification needed, I think. By 'network', do you mean
    > you want more than one SSID on your AP [virtual access points], or do
    > you mean that you want to use it as a client-bridge to more than one
    > other wireless network? The latter is an unusual requirement [to say the
    > least] but if it's possible with the Buffalo hardware you have then
    > DD-WRT should let you do it. The former is easy enough, certainly with
    > DD-WRT.


    I mean I have

    - Wireless router connected to Win7 (new build) and WinXP and Vista before
    that. As I have mentioned that the problem has been going on for years

    - I have 2 desktops connected (wired) to the wireless router.

    - We have 4 notebooks with wireless network capable, and the WII.

    And I just can't be able to connect more than ONE laptop, or laptop and
    Wii. I don't want anything else but be able to have more than one laptop
    access to internet at same time like it supposes to.

    Say I have laptop A, B, C, D. If

    A = connected then B,C, and D can't

    B= connected then A,C, and D can't

    D=connected then A,B, and C can't.

    The laptops are Toshiba, Dell, HP, Sony, and the Wii.

    When the Toshiba was running Windows Vista, I can have 2 laptopns
    connected to internet *if* I connect any of other laptop first then the
    Toshiba 2nd. But it no longer work with Win7

    And all laptops have no problem with other wireless network (from school,
    friend, public).


  12. #12
    Peter Pan
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    Re: Wireless connection driving me crazy.

    "Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
    news:ovpsq5hc9ks5btf8bblqqnpvihkoqoqqmm@4ax.com...
    > alexd <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >> On 27/03/10 12:33, Joel wrote:
    >>
    >> > Wireless network! I have tried just about everything but just no go, I
    >> > Google for the answer but don't find the answer to the similar problem.
    >> >
    >> > - I have reset to factory several times
    >> >
    >> > - I tried without firewall
    >> >
    >> > - It never work before, or the problem has been going on for years.

    >>
    >> Hmm, some more clarification needed, I think. By 'network', do you mean
    >> you want more than one SSID on your AP [virtual access points], or do
    >> you mean that you want to use it as a client-bridge to more than one
    >> other wireless network? The latter is an unusual requirement [to say the
    >> least] but if it's possible with the Buffalo hardware you have then
    >> DD-WRT should let you do it. The former is easy enough, certainly with
    >> DD-WRT.

    >
    > I mean I have
    >
    > - Wireless router connected to Win7 (new build) and WinXP and Vista before
    > that. As I have mentioned that the problem has been going on for years
    >
    > - I have 2 desktops connected (wired) to the wireless router.
    >
    > - We have 4 notebooks with wireless network capable, and the WII.
    >
    > And I just can't be able to connect more than ONE laptop, or laptop and
    > Wii. I don't want anything else but be able to have more than one laptop
    > access to internet at same time like it supposes to.
    >
    > Say I have laptop A, B, C, D. If
    >
    > A = connected then B,C, and D can't
    >
    > B= connected then A,C, and D can't
    >
    > D=connected then A,B, and C can't.
    >
    > The laptops are Toshiba, Dell, HP, Sony, and the Wii.
    >
    > When the Toshiba was running Windows Vista, I can have 2 laptopns
    > connected to internet *if* I connect any of other laptop first then the
    > Toshiba 2nd. But it no longer work with Win7
    >
    > And all laptops have no problem with other wireless network (from school,
    > friend, public).
    >



    are you by any chance using profiles or duplicated mac id's or forcing a
    certain port #? sure sounds like they are getting port assignments ok from
    other wireless networks, but on yours it's only getting the same one (or
    it's overriding the one handed out and using one that conflicts with one
    already assigned)

    you may want to try each one (connect and do the equivalent of
    start/run/command ipconfig /all <--- xp commands, change for whatever opsys
    you are using) that will tell you absolutely for sure what ip/port address
    each laptop is using.... they should all be different, if not, will help
    narrow down the problem


  13. #13
    Joel
    Guest

    Re: Wireless connection driving me crazy.

    "Peter Pan" <NotDeadYetNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:

    > "Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
    > news:ovpsq5hc9ks5btf8bblqqnpvihkoqoqqmm@4ax.com...
    > > alexd <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >> On 27/03/10 12:33, Joel wrote:
    > >>
    > >> > Wireless network! I have tried just about everything but just no go, I
    > >> > Google for the answer but don't find the answer to the similar problem.
    > >> >
    > >> > - I have reset to factory several times
    > >> >
    > >> > - I tried without firewall
    > >> >
    > >> > - It never work before, or the problem has been going on for years.
    > >>
    > >> Hmm, some more clarification needed, I think. By 'network', do you mean
    > >> you want more than one SSID on your AP [virtual access points], or do
    > >> you mean that you want to use it as a client-bridge to more than one
    > >> other wireless network? The latter is an unusual requirement [to say the
    > >> least] but if it's possible with the Buffalo hardware you have then
    > >> DD-WRT should let you do it. The former is easy enough, certainly with
    > >> DD-WRT.

    > >
    > > I mean I have
    > >
    > > - Wireless router connected to Win7 (new build) and WinXP and Vista before
    > > that. As I have mentioned that the problem has been going on for years
    > >
    > > - I have 2 desktops connected (wired) to the wireless router.
    > >
    > > - We have 4 notebooks with wireless network capable, and the WII.
    > >
    > > And I just can't be able to connect more than ONE laptop, or laptop and
    > > Wii. I don't want anything else but be able to have more than one laptop
    > > access to internet at same time like it supposes to.
    > >
    > > Say I have laptop A, B, C, D. If
    > >
    > > A = connected then B,C, and D can't
    > >
    > > B= connected then A,C, and D can't
    > >
    > > D=connected then A,B, and C can't.
    > >
    > > The laptops are Toshiba, Dell, HP, Sony, and the Wii.
    > >
    > > When the Toshiba was running Windows Vista, I can have 2 laptopns
    > > connected to internet *if* I connect any of other laptop first then the
    > > Toshiba 2nd. But it no longer work with Win7
    > >
    > > And all laptops have no problem with other wireless network (from school,
    > > friend, public).
    > >

    >
    >
    > are you by any chance using profiles or duplicated mac id's or forcing a
    > certain port #? sure sounds like they are getting port assignments ok from
    > other wireless networks, but on yours it's only getting the same one (or
    > it's overriding the one handed out and using one that conflicts with one
    > already assigned)
    >
    > you may want to try each one (connect and do the equivalent of
    > start/run/command ipconfig /all <--- xp commands, change for whatever opsys
    > you are using) that will tell you absolutely for sure what ip/port address
    > each laptop is using.... they should all be different, if not, will help
    > narrow down the problem


    Besides trying to get the router working, I don't know much about network
    to change whatever factory and default setting. And because of the issue I
    have with the current Buffalo wireless router for 2-3 years (?) I only tried
    to change few small things like

    - Different security option that doesn't help

    - Increasing the number of connection (like 30-40+?) lot more than I really
    need that doesn't help.

    - And as I have mentioned that I have been using the same Buffalo wireless
    router WHR-HP-G54 (about time to upgrade to N speed?) on several different
    motherboards and Windows (from Win98, WinXP, and now Windows 7). Many
    different versions of firewall, as well as I tried without firewall. None
    helps either.

    - Since none of the laptops having problem connecting to other wireless
    network (like in school, other house, public, other privated network, in and
    out of USA), and nobody in my family knows much about networking so we don't
    change the factory setting of the laptops.

    - About the INCONFIG, only to the desktop with the Buffalo router, I have
    tried to RESET (or renew whatever) several times and that's about all I did.
    I don't know much about IP/Port address but whatever automatically, and NOT
    the laptops cuz they don't have any problem with other networks.

  14. #14
    alexd
    Guest

    Re: Wireless connection driving me crazy.

    On 29/03/10 09:09, Joel wrote:
    > "Peter Pan"<NotDeadYetNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:


    >> are you by any chance using profiles or duplicated mac id's or forcing a
    >> certain port #? sure sounds like they are getting port assignments ok from
    >> other wireless networks, but on yours it's only getting the same one (or
    >> it's overriding the one handed out and using one that conflicts with one
    >> already assigned)


    What type of 'port' are you talking about here?

    > - And as I have mentioned that I have been using the same Buffalo wireless
    > router WHR-HP-G54 (about time to upgrade to N speed?) on several different
    > motherboards and Windows (from Win98, WinXP, and now Windows 7). Many
    > different versions of firewall, as well as I tried without firewall. None
    > helps either.


    I've got one of those in the office with DD-WRT on and it works great.

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  15. #15
    Joel
    Guest

    Re: Wireless connection driving me crazy.

    alexd <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:

    > On 29/03/10 09:09, Joel wrote:
    > > "Peter Pan"<NotDeadYetNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:

    >
    > >> are you by any chance using profiles or duplicated mac id's or forcing a
    > >> certain port #? sure sounds like they are getting port assignments ok from
    > >> other wireless networks, but on yours it's only getting the same one (or
    > >> it's overriding the one handed out and using one that conflicts with one
    > >> already assigned)

    >
    > What type of 'port' are you talking about here?


    Me? I don't know anything about "port" so I never said anything about
    port. It seems like you made a wrong quote (from Peter Pan may be?)

    > > - And as I have mentioned that I have been using the same Buffalo wireless
    > > router WHR-HP-G54 (about time to upgrade to N speed?) on several different
    > > motherboards and Windows (from Win98, WinXP, and now Windows 7). Many
    > > different versions of firewall, as well as I tried without firewall. None
    > > helps either.

    >
    > I've got one of those in the office with DD-WRT on and it works great.


    I have no problem with SINGLE wireless connection, speed, and usually have
    the MAX bar. As I said the only problem I have is connecting more than one
    wireless computer.

    Since I don't know much about wireless router, I have been thinking of
    getting the Linksys WRT160N Ultra RangePlus often onsale for around $55-60.
    But I have read both possitive and negative about most Linksys models.

    IOW, I don't know which one telling the true, which one misleading. And I
    don't find many people saying much about connecting more than one wireless
    system.

  16. #16
    alexd
    Guest

    Re: Wireless connection driving me crazy.

    On 30/03/10 03:18, Joel wrote:

    > Me? I don't know anything about "port" so I never said anything about
    > port. It seems like you made a wrong quote (from Peter Pan may be?)


    No, not you, hence the "Peter Pan ... wrote:" bit.

    > I have no problem with SINGLE wireless connection, speed, and usually have
    > the MAX bar. As I said the only problem I have is connecting more than one
    > wireless computer.
    >
    > Since I don't know much about wireless router, I have been thinking of
    > getting the Linksys WRT160N Ultra RangePlus often onsale for around $55-60.
    > But I have read both possitive and negative about most Linksys models.
    > IOW, I don't know which one telling the true, which one misleading.


    Such are the perils of mass-market products. There are always going to
    be as many opinions as there are people who own said product.

    > And I don't find many people saying much about connecting more than

    one wireless
    > system.


    I suspect the reason you don't find people asking about this is because
    it's very unusual to find an AP that only accepts one station at a time,
    even after factorying it.

    I suppose when I said the WHR-HP-G54 'works great' for me I should have
    mentioned that includes having more than one station associated, for the
    avoidance of doubt.

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  17. #17
    Joel
    Guest

    Re: Wireless connection driving me crazy.

    alexd <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:

    > On 30/03/10 03:18, Joel wrote:
    >
    > > Me? I don't know anything about "port" so I never said anything about
    > > port. It seems like you made a wrong quote (from Peter Pan may be?)

    >
    > No, not you, hence the "Peter Pan ... wrote:" bit.
    >
    > > I have no problem with SINGLE wireless connection, speed, and usually have
    > > the MAX bar. As I said the only problem I have is connecting more than one
    > > wireless computer.
    > >
    > > Since I don't know much about wireless router, I have been thinking of
    > > getting the Linksys WRT160N Ultra RangePlus often onsale for around $55-60.
    > > But I have read both possitive and negative about most Linksys models.
    > > IOW, I don't know which one telling the true, which one misleading.

    >
    > Such are the perils of mass-market products. There are always going to
    > be as many opinions as there are people who own said product.
    >
    > > And I don't find many people saying much about connecting more than

    > one wireless
    > > system.

    >
    > I suspect the reason you don't find people asking about this is because
    > it's very unusual to find an AP that only accepts one station at a time,
    > even after factorying it.
    >
    > I suppose when I said the WHR-HP-G54 'works great' for me I should have
    > mentioned that includes having more than one station associated, for the
    > avoidance of doubt.


    Actually this is the first time I read someone mention about being able to
    have more than one wireless system connected to it.

    Actually I was able to (as I have mention) if I allow other laptops like
    the Dell, HP, Samsung connected first, then the Toshiba. And it worked fine
    this way until I upgraded the Toshiba from Windows Vista to Windows 7 then
    it no longer work.

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