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  1. #1
    karthikbalaguru
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    Visio equivalent for free

    Hi,
    I have been looking for a
    free software equivalent
    to Visio. I came across
    the below link -
    http://en.kioskea.net/faq/sujet-1400...icrosoft-visio

    But, which is the best
    equivalent ? Any ideas ?

    Thx in advans,
    Karthik Balaguru

  2. #2
    karthikbalaguru
    Guest

    Re: Visio equivalent for free

    On Jan 29, 9:01*pm, karthikbalaguru <karthikbalagur...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    > Hi,
    > I have been looking for a
    > free software equivalent
    > to Visio. I came across
    > the below link -http://en.kioskea.net/faq/sujet-1400-free-alternative-to-microsoft-visio
    >
    > But, which is the best
    > equivalent ? Any ideas ?
    >


    It should be for alt.comp.freeware.

    Karthik Balaguru


  3. #3
    Jeff Liebermann
    Guest

    Re: Visio equivalent for free

    On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:01:31 -0800 (PST), karthikbalaguru
    <karthikbalaguru79@gmail.com> wrote:

    >I have been looking for a
    >free software equivalent
    >to Visio.


    <http://www.osalt.com/visio>
    Lists 5 alternatives to Visio.

    I use Open Office Draw (on Linux and Windoze) for the simple stuff and
    an ancient copy of Visio 2000 Pro for the messy stuff where I have to
    use customers Visio stencils.



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  4. #4
    karthikbalaguru
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    Re: Visio equivalent for free

    On Jan 29, 11:08*pm, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
    > On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:01:31 -0800 (PST), karthikbalaguru
    >
    > <karthikbalagur...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >I have been looking for a
    > >free software equivalent
    > >to Visio.

    >
    > <http://www.osalt.com/visio>
    > Lists 5 alternatives to Visio.
    >


    Hey Jeff,
    Thx for your inputs, it is very helpful !

    > I use Open Office Draw (on Linux and Windoze) for the simple stuff and
    > an ancient copy of Visio 2000 Pro for the messy stuff where I have to
    > use customers Visio stencils.
    >


    It seems Open Office Draw
    is also a good alternative.

    In the same link that was conveyed
    by you, i found a list of top 10
    Commercial and top 10 Open Source
    alternatives/equivalents to Visio.

    It seems that 'Dia' has been designed
    very much like commercial Visio in
    Open Source category and has
    been rated '1'.

    Anyhow, i will check both .

    Karthik Balaguru

  5. #5
    karthikbalaguru
    Guest

    Re: Visio equivalent for free

    On Jan 29, 9:59*pm, Craig <netburg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
    > On 01/29/2010 08:02 AM, karthikbalaguru wrote:
    >
    > > On Jan 29, 9:01 pm, karthikbalaguru<karthikbalagur...@gmail.com>
    > > wrote:
    > >> Hi,
    > >> I have been looking for a
    > >> free software equivalent
    > >> to Visio. I came across
    > >> the below link -http://en.kioskea.net/faq/sujet-1400-free-alternative-to-microsoft-visio

    >
    > >> But, which is the best
    > >> equivalent ? Any ideas ?

    >
    > > It should be for alt.comp.freeware.

    >
    > The only near-equivalent I know of is Dia <http://live.gnome.org/Dia>.
    > If your diagramming needs are not terribly complex, I can recommend the
    > Draw component in OpenOffice.
    >


    Great !
    So, In brief -
    If it is complex, Dia is good.
    If it is simple, we can go in for
    the Draw component of OpenOffice.

    But, do both of the above tools
    allow import of vsd file format(visio)
    so that i can use it for editing
    visio files. Any ideas ?

    Thx in advans,
    Karthik Balaguru

  6. #6
    karthikbalaguru
    Guest

    Re: Visio equivalent for free

    On Jan 30, 9:31*am, karthikbalaguru <karthikbalagur...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    > On Jan 29, 9:59*pm, Craig <netburg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On 01/29/2010 08:02 AM, karthikbalaguru wrote:

    >
    > > > On Jan 29, 9:01 pm, karthikbalaguru<karthikbalagur...@gmail.com>
    > > > wrote:
    > > >> Hi,
    > > >> I have been looking for a
    > > >> free software equivalent
    > > >> to Visio. I came across
    > > >> the below link -http://en.kioskea.net/faq/sujet-1400-free-alternative-to-microsoft-visio

    >
    > > >> But, which is the best
    > > >> equivalent ? Any ideas ?

    >
    > > > It should be for alt.comp.freeware.

    >
    > > The only near-equivalent I know of is Dia <http://live.gnome.org/Dia>.
    > > If your diagramming needs are not terribly complex, I can recommend the
    > > Draw component in OpenOffice.

    >
    > Great !
    > So, In brief -
    > If it is complex, Dia is good.
    > If it is simple, we can go in for
    > the Draw component of OpenOffice.
    >
    > But, do both of the above tools
    > allow import of vsd file format(visio)
    > so that i can use it for editing
    > visio files. Any ideas ?
    >


    To see if the Dia or openoffice draw
    support the feature of opening a
    visio file i checked their FAQs.

    I checked Dia FAQ, it seems that
    it does not currently support the
    opening of visio format but it seems
    that some work based on the XSLT
    plug-in is ongoing.
    Reference -
    http://projects.gnome.org/dia/faq.html#VisioFiles

    I checked the OpenOffice Draw FAQ -
    http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/...ation/FAQ/Draw
    I wonder why the FAQ does not talk
    about the feature of opening visio file
    in draw ?

    I searched the internet and landed in
    old threads that discuss regd this
    feature in Draw. :(

    I got the below link that is in
    openoffice.org, but it does not show
    the latest news -
    http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show...istorysort=new

    But, it does show that it has been
    assigned to requirements , but it
    does not display if it is being
    supported in the latest version .
    Any ideas ?

    Thx in advans,
    Karthik Balaguru

  7. #7
    Jeff Liebermann
    Guest

    Re: Visio equivalent for free

    On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:16:29 -0800 (PST), karthikbalaguru
    <karthikbalaguru79@gmail.com> wrote:

    >It seems that 'Dia' has been designed
    >very much like commercial Visio in
    >Open Source category and has
    >been rated '1'.


    I had some problems with Dia. While designed to work like Visio, it
    will not import or use Visio files, stencils, and shapes. That's the
    key problem with using clones and why I use Visio 2000 Pro. The
    drawings of equipment and boxes created by my customers are a
    requirement for my work. See:
    <http://projects.gnome.org/dia/faq.html#VisioFiles>
    bottom section, for hints of problems to come if you need
    compatibility.

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  8. #8
    Jeff Liebermann
    Guest

    Re: Visio equivalent for free

    On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:54:16 -0800 (PST), karthikbalaguru
    <karthikbalaguru79@gmail.com> wrote:

    >Any ideas ?


    Stop trying to get it for free. Visio 2000 (various version) all work
    on XP, Vista, and Windoze 7. It's also quite cheap (about $30 total):
    <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250571184940>

    The nice thing about the Pro and Enterprise versions is that they will
    do network autodiscovery and diagramming. There are other programs
    that will do the same thing, but it's nice having all the network
    topology documentation tools under one programs.

    --
    # Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
    # 831-336-2558
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    # http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS

  9. #9
    Stephen
    Guest

    Re: Visio equivalent for free

    On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:01:31 -0800 (PST), karthikbalaguru
    <karthikbalaguru79@gmail.com> wrote:

    >Hi,
    >I have been looking for a
    >free software equivalent
    >to Visio. I came across
    >the below link -
    >http://en.kioskea.net/faq/sujet-1400...icrosoft-visio
    >
    >But, which is the best
    >equivalent ? Any ideas ?


    i cannot comment on the equivalents - but it is worth noting that
    every time there is anew version of visio from microsoft, the .vsd etc
    file formats change.

    so - visio version x is not compatible with version x+1, unless x+1 is
    set to save in an old format.

    and you cannot set the current one at work to save to the oldest one
    we have (2 versions back).
    >
    >Thx in advans,
    >Karthik Balaguru

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  10. #10
    Dave
    Guest

    Re: Visio equivalent for free

    On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:31:57 -0800, karthikbalaguru wrote:

    > On Jan 29, 9:59*pm, Craig <netburg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
    >> On 01/29/2010 08:02 AM, karthikbalaguru wrote:
    >>
    >> > On Jan 29, 9:01 pm, karthikbalaguru<karthikbalagur...@gmail.com>
    >> > wrote:
    >> >> Hi,
    >> >> I have been looking for a
    >> >> free software equivalent
    >> >> to Visio. I came across
    >> >> the below link
    >> >> -http://en.kioskea.net/faq/sujet-1400-free-alternative-to-microsoft-

    visio
    >>
    >> >> But, which is the best
    >> >> equivalent ? Any ideas ?

    >>
    >> > It should be for alt.comp.freeware.

    >>
    >> The only near-equivalent I know of is Dia <http://live.gnome.org/Dia>.
    >> If your diagramming needs are not terribly complex, I can recommend the
    >> Draw component in OpenOffice.
    >>
    >>

    > Great !
    > So, In brief -
    > If it is complex, Dia is good.
    > If it is simple, we can go in for
    > the Draw component of OpenOffice.
    >
    > But, do both of the above tools
    > allow import of vsd file format(visio) so that i can use it for editing
    > visio files. Any ideas ?
    >
    > Thx in advans,
    > Karthik Balaguru



    Vsdump is a Linux tool to convert vsd/vss to XML/vxd.Dia can open
    vxd.Vsdump is in Ubuntu and other repositories.

    Dave

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    Registered Linux user # 444770


  11. #11
    karthikbalaguru
    Guest

    Re: Visio equivalent for free

    On Jan 30, 10:19*am, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
    > On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:16:29 -0800 (PST), karthikbalaguru
    >
    > <karthikbalagur...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >It seems that 'Dia' has been designed
    > >very much like commercial Visio in
    > >Open Source category and has
    > >been rated '1'.

    >
    > I had some problems with Dia. *While designed to work like Visio, it
    > will not import or use Visio files, stencils, and shapes. *That's the
    > key problem with using clones and why I use Visio 2000 Pro. *The
    > drawings of equipment and boxes created by my customers are a
    > requirement for my work. *See:
    > <http://projects.gnome.org/dia/faq.html#VisioFiles>
    > bottom section, for hints of problems to come if you need
    > compatibility.
    >


    Okay, i checked the bottom section.
    It seems that with new XSLT plug-in, if we
    have a proper XSLT document to be able
    to translate, then visio file can be opened.
    It seems that some work is in progress !!
    But the link http://public.logicacmg.com/~redferni/visio/
    is not working !! Any alternate link to know
    the status of it ?

    Okay, I checked with OpenOffice Draw -
    http://user.services.openoffice.org/...p?f=11&t=27005

    So, visio files(.vsd files) cannot be opened
    using OpenOffice Draw and it seems that
    no much work has been done by Draw on
    that track.

    In Brief,
    Some work is going on in Dia to open visio
    file . No work in progress in Openoffice
    Draw to open visio file.

    It seems tha the visio file(.vsd format) can
    be opened only in visio as of now . :-(

    Thx in advans,
    Karthik Balaguru

  12. #12
    Craig
    Guest

    Re: Visio equivalent for free

    On 01/30/2010 05:26 AM, Dave wrote:
    > On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:31:57 -0800, karthikbalaguru wrote:
    >
    >> On Jan 29, 9:59 pm, Craig<netburg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
    >>> On 01/29/2010 08:02 AM, karthikbalaguru wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Jan 29, 9:01 pm, karthikbalaguru<karthikbalagur...@gmail.com>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>> Hi,
    >>>>> I have been looking for a
    >>>>> free software equivalent
    >>>>> to Visio. I came across
    >>>>> the below link
    >>>>> -http://en.kioskea.net/faq/sujet-1400-free-alternative-to-microsoft-

    > visio
    >>>
    >>>>> But, which is the best
    >>>>> equivalent ? Any ideas ?
    >>>
    >>>> It should be for alt.comp.freeware.
    >>>
    >>> The only near-equivalent I know of is Dia<http://live.gnome.org/Dia>.
    >>> If your diagramming needs are not terribly complex, I can recommend the
    >>> Draw component in OpenOffice.
    >>>
    >>>

    >> Great !
    >> So, In brief -
    >> If it is complex, Dia is good.
    >> If it is simple, we can go in for
    >> the Draw component of OpenOffice.
    >>
    >> But, do both of the above tools
    >> allow import of vsd file format(visio) so that i can use it for editing
    >> visio files. Any ideas ?
    >>
    >> Thx in advans,
    >> Karthik Balaguru

    >
    >
    > Vsdump is a Linux tool to convert vsd/vss to XML/vxd.Dia can open
    > vxd.Vsdump is in Ubuntu and other repositories.
    >


    Nice tip. Thx Dave!


    --
    -Craig

  13. #13
    karthikbalaguru
    Guest

    Re: Visio equivalent for free

    On Jan 30, 6:26*pm, Dave <nodlee5s...@fuse.net> wrote:
    > On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:31:57 -0800, karthikbalaguru wrote:
    > > On Jan 29, 9:59*pm, Craig <netburg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
    > >> On 01/29/2010 08:02 AM, karthikbalaguru wrote:

    >
    > >> > On Jan 29, 9:01 pm, karthikbalaguru<karthikbalagur...@gmail.com>
    > >> > wrote:
    > >> >> Hi,
    > >> >> I have been looking for a
    > >> >> free software equivalent
    > >> >> to Visio. I came across
    > >> >> the below link
    > >> >> -http://en.kioskea.net/faq/sujet-1400-free-alternative-to-microsoft-

    > visio
    >
    > >> >> But, which is the best
    > >> >> equivalent ? Any ideas ?

    >
    > >> > It should be for alt.comp.freeware.

    >
    > >> The only near-equivalent I know of is Dia <http://live.gnome.org/Dia>.
    > >> If your diagramming needs are not terribly complex, I can recommend the
    > >> Draw component in OpenOffice.

    >
    > > Great !
    > > So, In brief -
    > > If it is complex, Dia is good.
    > > If it is simple, we can go in for
    > > the Draw component of OpenOffice.

    >
    > > But, do both of the above tools
    > > allow import of vsd file format(visio) so that i can use it for editing
    > > visio files. Any ideas ?

    >
    > > Thx in advans,
    > > Karthik Balaguru

    >
    > Vsdump is a Linux tool to convert vsd/vss to XML/vxd.Dia can open
    > vxd.Vsdump is in Ubuntu and other repositories.
    >


    Great !!
    I will check this method . It seems
    that vsdump is a set of tools that
    are useful for reverse engineering
    the VSD/VSS file format used by Visio.

    Interesting to know that it can convert
    vsd files to vxd format that can be
    opened by Dia. But, can it be edited ?
    Any ideas ?

    Thx in advans,
    Karthik Balaguru

  14. #14
    I have uses creately and it is a decent visio alternative. you might find it use full for sure. by the way mate what kind of diagrams are you wishing to draw. If you are looking for a free visio alternative first try creately online first

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