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  1. #1
    Bert Hyman
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    Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    I'm looking for a relatively cheap handheld device with a Web browser
    that can access the internet through WiFi. Being able to log on to
    public hotspots and access WEP and WPA protected routers is essential.

    I use T-Mobile pre-paid cell service, but don't want to pay the freight
    for a contract which includes Web access through T-Mobile's network.

    It looks like a USA-standards unlocked GSM phone, a GSM phone locked to
    T-Mobile's USA network or a stand-alone PDA with the required Web & WiFi
    support is what I'm looking for.

    If non-GSM, non-T-Mobile phones will work in WiFi mode without
    activation, I'm open to those too.

    My first search led me to an unlocked Motorola ZN5 for $190, but I
    couldn't find anything describing its ability to connect to hotspots or
    protected networks.

    Can anybody suggest devices & sources for something that would work?

    --
    Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

  2. #2
    Warren Oates
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    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    In article <Xns9D056FDA0DA8CVeebleFetzer@216.250.188.140>,
    Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

    > Can anybody suggest devices & sources for something that would work?


    iPod Touch?
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  3. #3
    Bert Hyman
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    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    In news:018e42e8$0$11380$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com Warren Oates
    <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

    > In article <Xns9D056FDA0DA8CVeebleFetzer@216.250.188.140>,
    > Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Can anybody suggest devices & sources for something that would work?

    >
    > iPod Touch?


    I discounted that without checking because I thought it was too expensive,
    but the 8GB is only $200 now.

    Thanks for the reminder.

    --
    Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

  4. #4
    DevilsPGD
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    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    In message <Xns9D057EBB68703VeebleFetzer@216.250.188.141> Bert Hyman
    <bert@iphouse.com> was claimed to have wrote:

    >In news:018e42e8$0$11380$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com Warren Oates
    ><warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >> In article <Xns9D056FDA0DA8CVeebleFetzer@216.250.188.140>,
    >> Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Can anybody suggest devices & sources for something that would work?

    >>
    >> iPod Touch?

    >
    >I discounted that without checking because I thought it was too expensive,
    >but the 8GB is only $200 now.


    You can probably do better if you watch the refurbs or Craigslist.

  5. #5
    dold@39.usenet.us.com
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    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
    > I'm looking for a relatively cheap handheld device with a Web browser
    > that can access the internet through WiFi. Being able to log on to
    > public hotspots and access WEP and WPA protected routers is essential.


    Used iPhones or iPod Touch, or certain Blackberry models.

    I know some folks with several... sometimes retiring them as music players
    with no cellular.

    The iPod Touch would be the most obvious, since it never did anything but
    WiFi, and there wouldn't be any configuration problems. I don't know about
    an iPhone without a cellular plan.

    The BlackBerry expects to have WiFi authorized by a previous cellular
    connection, but various postings indicate that it can be configured to
    avoid that.

    --
    Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

  6. #6
    Shadow
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    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:20:44 -0500, Warren Oates
    <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

    >In article <Xns9D056FDA0DA8CVeebleFetzer@216.250.188.140>,
    > Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Can anybody suggest devices & sources for something that would work?

    >
    >iPod Touch?

    Please don't use the word "cheap" in your headers. It makes my
    filters nervous.
    []'s

  7. #7
    atec 77
    Guest

    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    Bert Hyman wrote:
    > I'm looking for a relatively cheap handheld device with a Web browser
    > that can access the internet through WiFi. Being able to log on to
    > public hotspots and access WEP and WPA protected routers is essential.
    >
    > I use T-Mobile pre-paid cell service, but don't want to pay the freight
    > for a contract which includes Web access through T-Mobile's network.
    >
    > It looks like a USA-standards unlocked GSM phone, a GSM phone locked to
    > T-Mobile's USA network or a stand-alone PDA with the required Web & WiFi
    > support is what I'm looking for.
    >
    > If non-GSM, non-T-Mobile phones will work in WiFi mode without
    > activation, I'm open to those too.
    >
    > My first search led me to an unlocked Motorola ZN5 for $190, but I
    > couldn't find anything describing its ability to connect to hotspots or
    > protected networks.
    >
    > Can anybody suggest devices & sources for something that would work?
    >

    used k=mate phone or a new Lg Prado II ( I have one)

  8. #8
    me@privacy.net
    Guest

    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

    >Can anybody suggest devices & sources for something that would work?


    Unlocked Nokia E63

  9. #9
    Jeff Liebermann
    Guest

    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:56:54 -0800, DevilsPGD
    <Still-Just-A-Rat-In-A-Cage@crazyhat.net> wrote:

    >In message <Xns9D057EBB68703VeebleFetzer@216.250.188.141> Bert Hyman
    ><bert@iphouse.com> was claimed to have wrote:
    >
    >>In news:018e42e8$0$11380$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com Warren Oates
    >><warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> In article <Xns9D056FDA0DA8CVeebleFetzer@216.250.188.140>,
    >>> Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Can anybody suggest devices & sources for something that would work?
    >>>
    >>> iPod Touch?

    >>
    >>I discounted that without checking because I thought it was too expensive,
    >>but the 8GB is only $200 now.

    >
    >You can probably do better if you watch the refurbs or Craigslist.


    That's what I'm using. I paid about $170 for a used 8MB iPod Touch 2G
    on eBay. Current price on eBay is about $160 (including shipping).

    The problem with buying used iPod Touch handhelds on eBay is that most
    of them will have been used for a year or three, and now have a
    semi-dead battery. The replacement battery is cheap but a nightmare
    to replace. If you're handy with a plastic pry bar, this is not a
    problem.

    Make sure you get a 2G or 3G model. The first generation model has
    some limitations (no mic connection on the earphone jack, slower CPU,
    etc ). The iPod Touch wireless also has rather limited range due to
    the tiny antenna and substantial metal back shield. Make sure you a
    obtain a collection of necessary accessories (case protector, plug in
    mic, earphone, docking station, car charger, house charger, USB cable,
    etc.). Another option is to get a used iPhone, and just disable the
    phone section by leaving out the SIM card. That gives you all the
    features of the iPod Touch, with the addition of GPS, internal
    microphone, and nifty camera, for the same price.


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  10. #10
    TBerk
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    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?


  11. #11
    Peter Pan
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    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    "atec 77" <"atec 77"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:hj6n4q$ffg$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > Bert Hyman wrote:
    >> I'm looking for a relatively cheap handheld device with a Web browser
    >> that can access the internet through WiFi. Being able to log on to
    >> public hotspots and access WEP and WPA protected routers is essential. I
    >> use T-Mobile pre-paid cell service, but don't want to pay the freight
    >> for a contract which includes Web access through T-Mobile's network. It
    >> looks like a USA-standards unlocked GSM phone, a GSM phone locked to
    >> T-Mobile's USA network or a stand-alone PDA with the required Web & WiFi
    >> support is what I'm looking for. If non-GSM, non-T-Mobile phones will
    >> work in WiFi mode without
    >> activation, I'm open to those too. My first search led me to an unlocked
    >> Motorola ZN5 for $190, but I
    >> couldn't find anything describing its ability to connect to hotspots or
    >> protected networks. Can anybody suggest devices & sources for something
    >> that would work?
    >>

    > used k=mate phone or a new Lg Prado II ( I have one)




    Why even consider a Phone? have you considered something like say the nokia
    N800/N810 series tablets? or even the n900 mobile pocket computer?


  12. #12
    alexd
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    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    Meanwhile, at the alt.internet.wireless Job Justification Hearings, Peter
    Pan chose the tried and tested strategy of:

    > Why even consider a Phone? have you considered something like say the
    > nokia N800/N810 series tablets? or even the n900 mobile pocket computer?


    Whilst the N900 is the most computer-like phone I've seen [and that's a plus
    in my opinion], it's a long way from being "relatively cheap".

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  13. #13
    Bert Hyman
    Guest

    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    In news:LZCdnYrDaMCdE8fWnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@earthlink.com "Peter Pan"
    <NotDeadYetNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:

    > Why even consider a Phone?


    Since I carry a phone anyway, it would be handy if I could combine both
    functions into a single device.

    > have you considered something like say the nokia N800/N810 series
    > tablets?


    Yes, and they really look neat. And not terribly expensive either.

    > or even the n900 mobile pocket computer?


    Now, that one does seem to be terribly expensive.

    --
    Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

  14. #14
    Peter Pan
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    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    "Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message
    news:Xns9D0969F17767DVeebleFetzer@216.250.188.141...
    > In news:LZCdnYrDaMCdE8fWnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@earthlink.com "Peter Pan"
    > <NotDeadYetNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:
    >
    >> Why even consider a Phone?

    >
    > Since I carry a phone anyway, it would be handy if I could combine both
    > functions into a single device.
    >
    >> have you considered something like say the nokia N800/N810 series
    >> tablets?

    >
    > Yes, and they really look neat. And not terribly expensive either.
    >
    >> or even the n900 mobile pocket computer?

    >
    > Now, that one does seem to be terribly expensive.
    >
    > --
    > Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com


    t
    unfortunatly it is (expensive) i use the n800 (about $179 and skype, have
    wifi at both home and work, cancelled my cellphone), however the initial q
    was about
    "I'm looking for a relatively cheap handheld device with a Web browser >>
    that can access the internet through WiFi. Being able to log on to
    >> public hotspots and access WEP and WPA protected routers is essential"

    and the cheaper ones seem to fit that bill

    however, since i wrote that i have been looking into one specific model of
    iphone (there are 8 models, but this one can be used on wifi only with no
    cell contract)
    ipod 8gb touch $183 at walmart!
    http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=12510109


  15. #15
    Bert Hyman
    Guest

    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    In news:2kn3m5d9510lq0a0mhnsn4scfmh3qbms10@4ax.com John Navas
    <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

    > On 19 Jan 2010 18:27:29 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in
    ><Xns9D057EBB68703VeebleFetzer@216.250.188.141>:


    >>
    >>I discounted that without checking because I thought it was too
    >>expensive, but the 8GB is only $200 now.

    >
    > Currently $189 at the Apple Outlet:
    ><http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/ipod/ipod_touch>


    That's a refurbed 1st gen 16GB model; no thanks.

    > Under $100 used on eBay or craigslist.


    New 3rd gen 8GB model is now $184 everywhere.

    --
    Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

  16. #16
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    "John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
    news:2kn3m5d9510lq0a0mhnsn4scfmh3qbms10@4ax.com...
    > On 19 Jan 2010 18:27:29 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in
    > <Xns9D057EBB68703VeebleFetzer@216.250.188.141>:
    >
    >>In news:018e42e8$0$11380$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com Warren Oates
    >><warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> In article <Xns9D056FDA0DA8CVeebleFetzer@216.250.188.140>,
    >>> Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Can anybody suggest devices & sources for something that would work?
    >>>
    >>> iPod Touch?

    >>
    >>I discounted that without checking because I thought it was too expensive,
    >>but the 8GB is only $200 now.

    >
    > Currently $189 at the Apple Outlet:
    > <http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/ipod/ipod_touch>
    >
    > Under $100 used on eBay or craigslist.
    >
    > --
    > Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us>
    > John FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi>
    > Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
    > Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>



    ipod 8gb touch $183 at walmart!
    http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=12510109


  17. #17
    me@privacy.net
    Guest

    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    "Peter Pan" <NotDeadYetNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info>
    wrote:

    >ipod 8gb touch $183 at walmart!
    >http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=12510109


    I'm considering an Ipod as well..... but is 8 gig
    enough in one of these units?

    I wont have hardly any music on it.... but instead will
    be using it for productivity app's and email, web
    surfing, etc

  18. #18
    DevilsPGD
    Guest

    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    In message <qmr6m51e2rgo5j2qlsolaf3267sq94nc2q@4ax.com> me@privacy.net
    was claimed to have wrote:

    >"Peter Pan" <NotDeadYetNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>ipod 8gb touch $183 at walmart!
    >>http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=12510109

    >
    >I'm considering an Ipod as well..... but is 8 gig
    >enough in one of these units?
    >
    >I wont have hardly any music on it.... but instead will
    >be using it for productivity app's and email, web
    >surfing, etc


    If you're not using it for music or video, 8GB is more than enough.
    There are a few apps that use more than a couple hundred MB, navigation
    software, some port of an old game (Myst?), and a few sets of reference
    software.

    The majority of applications are under 10MB though.

    I'd be very surprised if you could fill 8GB full of apps in real world
    usage (downloading every navigation package or using a "wifi drive"
    doesn't count)

  19. #19
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    news:qmr6m51e2rgo5j2qlsolaf3267sq94nc2q@4ax.com...
    > "Peter Pan" <NotDeadYetNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>ipod 8gb touch $183 at walmart!
    >>http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=12510109

    >
    > I'm considering an Ipod as well..... but is 8 gig
    > enough in one of these units?
    >
    > I wont have hardly any music on it.... but instead will
    > be using it for productivity app's and email, web
    > surfing, etc



    your choice on size, they have three sizes, 8 16 32 (32 is $295, i assumed
    he wanted the cheapest)


  20. #20
    dold@39.usenet.us.com
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    Re: Cheap handheld Web via WiFi device?

    dold@39.usenet.us.com wrote:
    > The BlackBerry expects to have WiFi authorized by a previous cellular
    > connection, but various postings indicate that it can be configured to
    > avoid that.


    I happened to have a test case appear.
    A brand new Blackberry Bold 9000, from AT&T.
    No SIM, no activation of any sort, was able to connect and surf via WiFi.
    The little "WiFi" indicator stayed dim, didn't go bright like it normally
    does with a data plan enabled SIM inserted.

    With a previously enabled SIM/cellular based BIS authorization, the same
    thing works... you can surf, but you have to select the "HotSpot Browser"
    in the browser options screen.

    --
    Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

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