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  1. #1
    JohnN
    Guest

    Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    Just bought a Linksys WIRELESS N ADSL2+ GATEWAY WAG160N router to obtain
    better security from my existing WEP Encryption Modem/Router setup; ie want
    WPA2.

    Had difficulty installing from CD (could not find my Network adapter);had to
    resort to Linksys Internet Utility to get operational, which seemed OK, but
    cannot get my Intel Pro/Wireless G adapter on my Dell Laptop to recognise my
    Profile, however when trying using the Windows recognition method I can get
    a connection, but very weak!

    On its own and connected to my PC by the PC network adapter the Linksys unit
    above is very slow to connect and is not very stable, and on checking the
    internet download speed this is very low; much higher on my old G Wireless
    system.

    Any one had similar Linksys problems; any recommendations on replacing my
    Dell installed wireless G adapter on Laptop with a suitable N adapter(USB or
    ExpressCard) and any help on how I can improve operation of Linksys unit?

    Thanks John



  2. #2
    mikeyhsd
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    have the same wireless router.

    works with no problems.

    have you gone to their web site and updated ALL the software.
    control program, drivers and bios in the router.

    be extremely careful when updating the bios in the router.
    I usually use msconfig and turn off everything then reboot to do bios updates.


    --

    mikeyhsd@hotmail.com





    "JohnN" <jfn@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message news:xNadnSmpf6JkRtDWnZ2dnUVZ8n2dnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
    Just bought a Linksys WIRELESS N ADSL2+ GATEWAY WAG160N router to obtain
    better security from my existing WEP Encryption Modem/Router setup; ie want
    WPA2.

    Had difficulty installing from CD (could not find my Network adapter);had to
    resort to Linksys Internet Utility to get operational, which seemed OK, but
    cannot get my Intel Pro/Wireless G adapter on my Dell Laptop to recognise my
    Profile, however when trying using the Windows recognition method I can get
    a connection, but very weak!

    On its own and connected to my PC by the PC network adapter the Linksys unit
    above is very slow to connect and is not very stable, and on checking the
    internet download speed this is very low; much higher on my old G Wireless
    system.

    Any one had similar Linksys problems; any recommendations on replacing my
    Dell installed wireless G adapter on Laptop with a suitable N adapter(USB or
    ExpressCard) and any help on how I can improve operation of Linksys unit?

    Thanks John



  3. #3
    JohnN
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    Could my problem be that my built in wireless adapter on my Dell Laptop is G
    and my new Wireless Router Modem is N; if that is so can someone recommend a
    N adapter (usb or expresscard)?

    Thanks John

    "JohnN" <jfn@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:xNadnSmpf6JkRtDWnZ2dnUVZ8n2dnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
    > Just bought a Linksys WIRELESS N ADSL2+ GATEWAY WAG160N router to obtain
    > better security from my existing WEP Encryption Modem/Router setup; ie
    > want WPA2.
    >
    > Had difficulty installing from CD (could not find my Network adapter);had
    > to resort to Linksys Internet Utility to get operational, which seemed OK,
    > but cannot get my Intel Pro/Wireless G adapter on my Dell Laptop to
    > recognise my Profile, however when trying using the Windows recognition
    > method I can get a connection, but very weak!
    >
    > On its own and connected to my PC by the PC network adapter the Linksys
    > unit above is very slow to connect and is not very stable, and on checking
    > the internet download speed this is very low; much higher on my old G
    > Wireless system.
    >
    > Any one had similar Linksys problems; any recommendations on replacing my
    > Dell installed wireless G adapter on Laptop with a suitable N adapter(USB
    > or ExpressCard) and any help on how I can improve operation of Linksys
    > unit?
    >
    > Thanks John
    >




  4. #4
    JohnN
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    Since it is 'new' and version2 I would expect it to be uptodate!?

    Do you have any other wireless devices, and are they N compatible?

    John
    "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@lamparty.net> wrote in message news:AMadnSYkGvr9eNDWnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
    have the same wireless router.

    works with no problems.

    have you gone to their web site and updated ALL the software.
    control program, drivers and bios in the router.

    be extremely careful when updating the bios in the router.
    I usually use msconfig and turn off everything then reboot to do bios updates.


    --

    mikeyhsd@hotmail.com





    "JohnN" <jfn@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message news:xNadnSmpf6JkRtDWnZ2dnUVZ8n2dnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
    Just bought a Linksys WIRELESS N ADSL2+ GATEWAY WAG160N router to obtain
    better security from my existing WEP Encryption Modem/Router setup; ie want
    WPA2.

    Had difficulty installing from CD (could not find my Network adapter);had to
    resort to Linksys Internet Utility to get operational, which seemed OK, but
    cannot get my Intel Pro/Wireless G adapter on my Dell Laptop to recognise my
    Profile, however when trying using the Windows recognition method I can get
    a connection, but very weak!

    On its own and connected to my PC by the PC network adapter the Linksys unit
    above is very slow to connect and is not very stable, and on checking the
    internet download speed this is very low; much higher on my old G Wireless
    system.

    Any one had similar Linksys problems; any recommendations on replacing my
    Dell installed wireless G adapter on Laptop with a suitable N adapter(USB or
    ExpressCard) and any help on how I can improve operation of Linksys unit?

    Thanks John



  5. #5
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    "JohnN" <jfn@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:c9-dnaD4S7V3e9DWnZ2dnUVZ8nCdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
    > Could my problem be that my built in wireless adapter on my Dell Laptop is
    > G and my new Wireless Router Modem is N; if that is so can someone
    > recommend a N adapter (usb or expresscard)?
    >
    > Thanks John
    >
    > "JohnN" <jfn@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:xNadnSmpf6JkRtDWnZ2dnUVZ8n2dnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
    >> Just bought a Linksys WIRELESS N ADSL2+ GATEWAY WAG160N router to obtain
    >> better security from my existing WEP Encryption Modem/Router setup; ie
    >> want WPA2.
    >>
    >> Had difficulty installing from CD (could not find my Network adapter);had
    >> to resort to Linksys Internet Utility to get operational, which seemed
    >> OK, but cannot get my Intel Pro/Wireless G adapter on my Dell Laptop to
    >> recognise my Profile, however when trying using the Windows recognition
    >> method I can get a connection, but very weak!
    >>
    >> On its own and connected to my PC by the PC network adapter the Linksys
    >> unit above is very slow to connect and is not very stable, and on
    >> checking the internet download speed this is very low; much higher on my
    >> old G Wireless system.
    >>
    >> Any one had similar Linksys problems; any recommendations on replacing my
    >> Dell installed wireless G adapter on Laptop with a suitable N adapter(USB
    >> or ExpressCard) and any help on how I can improve operation of Linksys
    >> unit?
    >>
    >> Thanks John
    >>

    >
    >



    fraid not, no N standards yet, just pre-n and two different ways of doing
    things, some work, some won't... why not wait for actual n instead of pre-n?
    (see the fine print, they are ALL pre-n)


  6. #6
    alexd
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    Meanwhile, at the alt.internet.wireless Job Justification Hearings, JohnN
    chose the tried and tested strategy of:

    > Could my problem be that my built in wireless adapter on my Dell Laptop is
    > G and my new Wireless Router Modem is N; if that is so can someone
    > recommend a N adapter (usb or expresscard)?


    It is unlikely that that is the problem. How far is your PC from your
    router? What is in between your PC and your router? Have you got the latest
    drivers installed?

    --
    <http://ale.cx/> (AIM:troffasky) (UnSoEsNpEaTm@ale.cx)
    21:45:07 up 1:12, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
    DIMENSION-CONTROLLING FORT DOH HAS NOW BEEN DEMOLISHED,
    AND TIME STARTED FLOWING REVERSELY


  7. #7
    mikeyhsd
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    the router services B & G & N.
    unless you disable the B & G in the network program.


    --

    mikeyhsd@hotmail.com





    "JohnN" <jfn@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message news:c9-dnaD4S7V3e9DWnZ2dnUVZ8nCdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
    Could my problem be that my built in wireless adapter on my Dell Laptop is G
    and my new Wireless Router Modem is N; if that is so can someone recommend a
    N adapter (usb or expresscard)?

    Thanks John

    "JohnN" <jfn@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:xNadnSmpf6JkRtDWnZ2dnUVZ8n2dnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
    > Just bought a Linksys WIRELESS N ADSL2+ GATEWAY WAG160N router to obtain
    > better security from my existing WEP Encryption Modem/Router setup; ie
    > want WPA2.
    >
    > Had difficulty installing from CD (could not find my Network adapter);had
    > to resort to Linksys Internet Utility to get operational, which seemed OK,
    > but cannot get my Intel Pro/Wireless G adapter on my Dell Laptop to
    > recognise my Profile, however when trying using the Windows recognition
    > method I can get a connection, but very weak!
    >
    > On its own and connected to my PC by the PC network adapter the Linksys
    > unit above is very slow to connect and is not very stable, and on checking
    > the internet download speed this is very low; much higher on my old G
    > Wireless system.
    >
    > Any one had similar Linksys problems; any recommendations on replacing my
    > Dell installed wireless G adapter on Laptop with a suitable N adapter(USB
    > or ExpressCard) and any help on how I can improve operation of Linksys
    > unit?
    >
    > Thanks John
    >




  8. #8
    Aaron Leonard
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:33:00 -0000, "JohnN" <jfn@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:

    ~ Since it is 'new' and version2 I would expect it to be uptodate!?

    I never assume any such thing. Whenever I get new computer equipment,
    my first step after hooking it up is *always* to upgrade to current code.

  9. #9
    Char Jackson
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:59:26 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
    <calee@optonline.net> wrote:

    >It bugs me that I can't save my configuration and restore it to the
    >updated firmware on mine, because I have changed so many settings.
    >
    >Including using fixed IP addresses for practically everything on the
    >network because of limitations in Windows network printing which uses
    >IP addresses instead of URLs even though they would change when things
    >are powered on in a different order.


    If you feel that you need static IP addressing for a networked print
    server or a PC that's sharing a printer on the network, that doesn't
    mean any other nodes need to be statically configured. You can, of
    course, but don't need to unless yours is a fairly unique situation.


  10. #10
    Christopher A. Lee
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:49:15 -0600, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
    wrote:

    >On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:59:26 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
    ><calee@optonline.net> wrote:
    >
    >>It bugs me that I can't save my configuration and restore it to the
    >>updated firmware on mine, because I have changed so many settings.
    >>
    >>Including using fixed IP addresses for practically everything on the
    >>network because of limitations in Windows network printing which uses
    >>IP addresses instead of URLs even though they would change when things
    >>are powered on in a different order.


    That should have read "limitations in Windows like network printing".

    >If you feel that you need static IP addressing for a networked print
    >server or a PC that's sharing a printer on the network, that doesn't
    >mean any other nodes need to be statically configured. You can, of
    >course, but don't need to unless yours is a fairly unique situation.


    I don't feel it, that's how Windows works.

    If you look at the properties of a networked printer it holds the IP
    address not a URL. Without a fixed IP addy you have to delete it and
    add it again if things are powered up in a different order.

    Which they always are.

    Bit torrents need a forwarded port for PCs otherwise traffic is
    throttled which also means static IP even though I don't use it very
    often.

    The network attached storage also likes a static IP if the router gets
    reset for any reason.

    If I never used torrents the PCs would not need static IP, but I do
    occasionally.

    This means everything has static IP.

    With properly designed software and firmware it shouldn't be
    necessary.


  11. #11
    Char Jackson
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:44:48 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
    <calee@optonline.net> wrote:

    >On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:49:15 -0600, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:59:26 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
    >><calee@optonline.net> wrote:
    >>
    >>>It bugs me that I can't save my configuration and restore it to the
    >>>updated firmware on mine, because I have changed so many settings.
    >>>
    >>>Including using fixed IP addresses for practically everything on the
    >>>network because of limitations in Windows network printing which uses
    >>>IP addresses instead of URLs even though they would change when things
    >>>are powered on in a different order.

    >
    >That should have read "limitations in Windows like network printing".
    >
    >>If you feel that you need static IP addressing for a networked print
    >>server or a PC that's sharing a printer on the network, that doesn't
    >>mean any other nodes need to be statically configured. You can, of
    >>course, but don't need to unless yours is a fairly unique situation.

    >
    >I don't feel it, that's how Windows works.
    >
    >If you look at the properties of a networked printer it holds the IP
    >address not a URL. Without a fixed IP addy you have to delete it and
    >add it again if things are powered up in a different order.
    >
    >Which they always are.
    >
    >Bit torrents need a forwarded port for PCs otherwise traffic is
    >throttled which also means static IP even though I don't use it very
    >often.
    >
    >The network attached storage also likes a static IP if the router gets
    >reset for any reason.
    >
    >If I never used torrents the PCs would not need static IP, but I do
    >occasionally.
    >
    >This means everything has static IP.
    >
    >With properly designed software and firmware it shouldn't be
    >necessary.
    >


    Now that you mention these other things, I see what you mean.


  12. #12
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    "Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
    news:inevk5t2san94q7c4p8v2drh7hce5nc19l@4ax.com...
    > On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:59:26 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
    > <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
    >
    >>It bugs me that I can't save my configuration and restore it to the
    >>updated firmware on mine, because I have changed so many settings.
    >>
    >>Including using fixed IP addresses for practically everything on the
    >>network because of limitations in Windows network printing which uses
    >>IP addresses instead of URLs even though they would change when things
    >>are powered on in a different order.

    >
    > If you feel that you need static IP addressing for a networked print
    > server or a PC that's sharing a printer on the network, that doesn't
    > mean any other nodes need to be statically configured. You can, of
    > course, but don't need to unless yours is a fairly unique situation.
    >




    i have to wonder, have you looked at network shares instead of network
    places? i have a bunch set up that way, and don't use ip address on any of
    em (for example, the printer on my gateway is //gateway/printer


  13. #13
    Christopher A. Lee
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:39:05 -0500, "Peter Pan"
    <NotDeadYetNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:

    >"Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
    >news:inevk5t2san94q7c4p8v2drh7hce5nc19l@4ax.com...
    >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:59:26 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
    >> <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
    >>
    >>>It bugs me that I can't save my configuration and restore it to the
    >>>updated firmware on mine, because I have changed so many settings.
    >>>
    >>>Including using fixed IP addresses for practically everything on the
    >>>network because of limitations in Windows network printing which uses
    >>>IP addresses instead of URLs even though they would change when things
    >>>are powered on in a different order.

    >>
    >> If you feel that you need static IP addressing for a networked print
    >> server or a PC that's sharing a printer on the network, that doesn't
    >> mean any other nodes need to be statically configured. You can, of
    >> course, but don't need to unless yours is a fairly unique situation.
    >>

    >i have to wonder, have you looked at network shares instead of network
    >places? i have a bunch set up that way, and don't use ip address on any of
    >em (for example, the printer on my gateway is //gateway/printer


    That's what I did with XP. Vista's printer setup generates IP
    addresses. Tou tell it it's a netorked printer and it searches for
    what it can find, savingthe IP address.

  14. #14
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    "Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
    news:jlsvk5dae53336q6dr3utm312f3rruiq19@4ax.com...
    > On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:39:05 -0500, "Peter Pan"
    > <NotDeadYetNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:
    >
    >>"Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
    >>news:inevk5t2san94q7c4p8v2drh7hce5nc19l@4ax.com...
    >>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:59:26 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
    >>> <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>It bugs me that I can't save my configuration and restore it to the
    >>>>updated firmware on mine, because I have changed so many settings.
    >>>>
    >>>>Including using fixed IP addresses for practically everything on the
    >>>>network because of limitations in Windows network printing which uses
    >>>>IP addresses instead of URLs even though they would change when things
    >>>>are powered on in a different order.
    >>>
    >>> If you feel that you need static IP addressing for a networked print
    >>> server or a PC that's sharing a printer on the network, that doesn't
    >>> mean any other nodes need to be statically configured. You can, of
    >>> course, but don't need to unless yours is a fairly unique situation.
    >>>

    >>i have to wonder, have you looked at network shares instead of network
    >>places? i have a bunch set up that way, and don't use ip address on any of
    >>em (for example, the printer on my gateway is //gateway/printer

    >
    > That's what I did with XP. Vista's printer setup generates IP
    > addresses. Tou tell it it's a netorked printer and it searches for
    > what it can find, savingthe IP address.




    odd, cuz i have a network share on my vista machine and print on a local usb
    printer on an xp machine on my net.. is that maybe a difference between
    network printers and locally attached usb printers used over the network?

    at any rate, i hate static addresses, and jump thru all sorts of hoops to
    never have em/use em....


  15. #15
    Char Jackson
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:15:37 -0500, "Peter Pan"
    <NotDeadYetNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:

    >at any rate, i hate static addresses, and jump thru all sorts of hoops to
    >never have em/use em....


    IP assignments on my LAN are 100% static here. As a network design
    engineer for a large telecom, it goes against everything I know to let
    DHCP assign pseudo-random addresses on my network. I understand,
    though, that not everyone feels the same way, and many consider DHCP
    to be easier. I don't share that opinion, but I understand it.


  16. #16
    Christopher A. Lee
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:15:37 -0500, "Peter Pan"
    <NotDeadYetNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:

    >"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
    >news:jlsvk5dae53336q6dr3utm312f3rruiq19@4ax.com...
    >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:39:05 -0500, "Peter Pan"
    >> <NotDeadYetNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:
    >>
    >>>"Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
    >>>news:inevk5t2san94q7c4p8v2drh7hce5nc19l@4ax.com...
    >>>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:59:26 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
    >>>> <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>It bugs me that I can't save my configuration and restore it to the
    >>>>>updated firmware on mine, because I have changed so many settings.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Including using fixed IP addresses for practically everything on the
    >>>>>network because of limitations in Windows network printing which uses
    >>>>>IP addresses instead of URLs even though they would change when things
    >>>>>are powered on in a different order.
    >>>>
    >>>> If you feel that you need static IP addressing for a networked print
    >>>> server or a PC that's sharing a printer on the network, that doesn't
    >>>> mean any other nodes need to be statically configured. You can, of
    >>>> course, but don't need to unless yours is a fairly unique situation.
    >>>>
    >>>i have to wonder, have you looked at network shares instead of network
    >>>places? i have a bunch set up that way, and don't use ip address on any of
    >>>em (for example, the printer on my gateway is //gateway/printer

    >>
    >> That's what I did with XP. Vista's printer setup generates IP
    >> addresses. Tou tell it it's a netorked printer and it searches for
    >> what it can find, savingthe IP address.

    >
    >odd, cuz i have a network share on my vista machine and print on a local usb
    >printer on an xp machine on my net.. is that maybe a difference between
    >network printers and locally attached usb printers used over the network?


    Yes.

    It's a different setup.

    You tell it to add a networked printer and it runs all possible
    addresses looking for it. So it's already working with addresses not
    URLs.

    The only reason I can think why it doesn't save the name is that
    identical printers from the same manufacturer default to the same
    name. But this can be changed using an admin option.

    >at any rate, i hate static addresses, and jump thru all sorts of hoops to
    >never have em/use em....


    Me too. A properly designed system shouldn't need them.

    I suspect a lot of it is due to resets not being propagated
    dynamically. I don't know if this is due to the software components of
    the network being "just growed".

    But much of it could be handled by proper device error recovery.

    Eg networked printers. The control block should hold both a URL and an
    IP addy. It should open the device using the URL and save the IP opens
    the device it should use the URL and save the IP addy. If the printer
    drops, instead of giving up if it can't talk to the IP address, try
    the URL and if it works save the new IP addy.

  17. #17
    Aaron Leonard
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem


    ~ >at any rate, i hate static addresses, and jump thru all sorts of hoops to
    ~ >never have em/use em....
    ~
    ~ IP assignments on my LAN are 100% static here. As a network design
    ~ engineer for a large telecom, it goes against everything I know to let
    ~ DHCP assign pseudo-random addresses on my network. I understand,
    ~ though, that not everyone feels the same way, and many consider DHCP
    ~ to be easier. I don't share that opinion, but I understand it.

    The easiest thing for me is to have all my systems use DHCP, but have
    my DHCP server assign fixed IP addresses to each client (based upon
    the client ID / MAC address.) That way I don't have to run around
    configuring all my end systems, and also if I move a system from network
    to network, it picks up the right addresses automatically. And I have
    a central place (the DHCP server) that provides all the MAC-address
    mappings.

    Of course I cheat and use a Cisco IOS router as the DHCP server, but lots
    of other DHCP servers could do this too.

  18. #18
    Moe Trin
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.internet.wireless, in article
    <qljhl5p70jiv4vtpn86ms39f8b6cshhoe0@4ax.com>, Aaron Leonard wrote:

    >~ >at any rate, i hate static addresses, and jump thru all sorts of
    >~ >hoops tonever have em/use em....


    One wonders about the effort needed jumping through all of those
    hoops compare to the effort of setting things statically - but that's
    your choice.

    >~ IP assignments on my LAN are 100% static here. As a network design
    >~ engineer for a large telecom, it goes against everything I know to
    >~ let DHCP assign pseudo-random addresses on my network.


    Agree

    >The easiest thing for me is to have all my systems use DHCP, but have
    >my DHCP server assign fixed IP addresses to each client (based upon
    >the client ID / MAC address.)


    And you assign the 'client ID' and 'MAC address' from the DHCP server?
    I don't think so. So you had to fire up each client system, figure
    out where the magic information is hidden, copy it EXACTLY, and then
    transfer this data to the DHCP server without typ0s (assuming you
    also know where this information needs to go in the server config).
    And of course your networks are physically isolated and secured so
    that no one can be spoofing/setting their MAC address.

    >That way I don't have to run around configuring all my end systems


    How often are you changing / re-configuring your systems? Other than
    lap-tops, most people aren't playing musical computers and moving
    things. It's a one-time deal, and it's done.

    >and also if I move a system from network to network, it picks up the
    >right addresses automatically. And I have a central place (the DHCP
    >server) that provides all the MAC-address mappings.


    You have one DHCP server for all of your networks? Must have been
    fun to set up - something the average home user isn't going to be
    doing. Yes, if your computer is moving from network to network,
    a DHCP client is probably the way to go, but unless you are using
    a cryptographic signiture scheme, you may be a bit to trusting. My
    laptops only move between three different networks, and they have
    (selectable) fixed setups for each.

    >Of course I cheat and use a Cisco IOS router as the DHCP server, but
    >lots of other DHCP servers could do this too.


    As you work for Cisco, I'm sure the company expects that. As for the
    other DHCP servers, most users have no knowledge of how to set them
    up and are expecting that what-ever defaults were used are enough to
    allow connections. That's why RFC3927 addresses are so necessary.
    "The Internet must be b0rk3n - I can connect to the router OK."

    Old guy

  19. #19
    Aaron Leonard
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:00:27 -0600, ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid (Moe Trin) wrote:

    ~ >The easiest thing for me is to have all my systems use DHCP, but have
    ~ >my DHCP server assign fixed IP addresses to each client (based upon
    ~ >the client ID / MAC address.)
    ~
    ~ And you assign the 'client ID' and 'MAC address' from the DHCP server?
    ~ I don't think so. So you had to fire up each client system, figure
    ~ out where the magic information is hidden, copy it EXACTLY, and then
    ~ transfer this data to the DHCP server without typ0s (assuming you
    ~ also know where this information needs to go in the server config).
    ~ And of course your networks are physically isolated and secured so
    ~ that no one can be spoofing/setting their MAC address.

    Exactly so, for the case at hand: i.e. my home network, which
    consists of 3 Macs, 1 PC, 1 iTouch, 1 AP, plus my work PC, all behind
    my router.

    ~ >That way I don't have to run around configuring all my end systems
    ~
    ~ How often are you changing / re-configuring your systems? Other than
    ~ lap-tops, most people aren't playing musical computers and moving
    ~ things. It's a one-time deal, and it's done.

    But nowadays (in home networks) it's ALL laptops.

    ~ >and also if I move a system from network to network, it picks up the
    ~ >right addresses automatically. And I have a central place (the DHCP
    ~ >server) that provides all the MAC-address mappings.

    ~ You have one DHCP server for all of your networks?

    No, I have one DHCP server for my home network. Then when I move
    a laptop to some OTHER network, they have some OTHER DHCP server
    set up. So: if the laptop is configured for DHCP, it will
    automatically pick up a valid address. If I statically configure
    the laptop ... then I have to do something different when I move
    it to some other network.

    ~ Must have been
    ~ fun to set up - something the average home user isn't going to be
    ~ doing. Yes, if your computer is moving from network to network,
    ~ a DHCP client is probably the way to go, but unless you are using
    ~ a cryptographic signiture scheme, you may be a bit to trusting. My
    ~ laptops only move between three different networks, and they have
    ~ (selectable) fixed setups for each.

    ~ >Of course I cheat and use a Cisco IOS router as the DHCP server, but
    ~ >lots of other DHCP servers could do this too.
    ~
    ~ As you work for Cisco, I'm sure the company expects that. As for the
    ~ other DHCP servers, most users have no knowledge of how to set them
    ~ up and are expecting that what-ever defaults were used are enough to
    ~ allow connections. That's why RFC3927 addresses are so necessary.
    ~ "The Internet must be b0rk3n - I can connect to the router OK."

    The great majority of users ... should never need to know what a MAC
    or IP address is. In the thread at hand, it appears that the O.P.
    does care about the IP addresses in (what I infered to be) his home
    network. So I offered a suggestion for a good way to manage these
    things in such a scenario. Of course, other sitations may call for
    different measures.

    ~ Old guy

    Probably Even Older Guy


  20. #20
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: Lynksys Wireless Router/Modem

    "Aaron Leonard" <Aaron@Cisco.COM> wrote in message
    news:rjlrl5to53vhjuvugaacd1mi543o9iehg2@4ax.com...
    > On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:00:27 -0600,
    > ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid (Moe Trin) wrote:
    >
    > ~ >The easiest thing for me is to have all my systems use DHCP, but have
    > ~ >my DHCP server assign fixed IP addresses to each client (based upon
    > ~ >the client ID / MAC address.)
    > ~
    > ~ And you assign the 'client ID' and 'MAC address' from the DHCP server?
    > ~ I don't think so. So you had to fire up each client system, figure
    > ~ out where the magic information is hidden, copy it EXACTLY, and then
    > ~ transfer this data to the DHCP server without typ0s (assuming you
    > ~ also know where this information needs to go in the server config).
    > ~ And of course your networks are physically isolated and secured so
    > ~ that no one can be spoofing/setting their MAC address.
    >
    > Exactly so, for the case at hand: i.e. my home network, which
    > consists of 3 Macs, 1 PC, 1 iTouch, 1 AP, plus my work PC, all behind
    > my router.
    >
    > ~ >That way I don't have to run around configuring all my end systems
    > ~
    > ~ How often are you changing / re-configuring your systems? Other than
    > ~ lap-tops, most people aren't playing musical computers and moving
    > ~ things. It's a one-time deal, and it's done.
    >
    > But nowadays (in home networks) it's ALL laptops.
    >
    > ~ >and also if I move a system from network to network, it picks up the
    > ~ >right addresses automatically. And I have a central place (the DHCP
    > ~ >server) that provides all the MAC-address mappings.
    >
    > ~ You have one DHCP server for all of your networks?
    >
    > No, I have one DHCP server for my home network. Then when I move
    > a laptop to some OTHER network, they have some OTHER DHCP server
    > set up. So: if the laptop is configured for DHCP, it will
    > automatically pick up a valid address. If I statically configure
    > the laptop ... then I have to do something different when I move
    > it to some other network.
    >
    > ~ Must have been
    > ~ fun to set up - something the average home user isn't going to be
    > ~ doing. Yes, if your computer is moving from network to network,
    > ~ a DHCP client is probably the way to go, but unless you are using
    > ~ a cryptographic signiture scheme, you may be a bit to trusting. My
    > ~ laptops only move between three different networks, and they have
    > ~ (selectable) fixed setups for each.
    >
    > ~ >Of course I cheat and use a Cisco IOS router as the DHCP server, but
    > ~ >lots of other DHCP servers could do this too.
    > ~
    > ~ As you work for Cisco, I'm sure the company expects that. As for the
    > ~ other DHCP servers, most users have no knowledge of how to set them
    > ~ up and are expecting that what-ever defaults were used are enough to
    > ~ allow connections. That's why RFC3927 addresses are so necessary.
    > ~ "The Internet must be b0rk3n - I can connect to the router OK."
    >
    > The great majority of users ... should never need to know what a MAC
    > or IP address is. In the thread at hand, it appears that the O.P.
    > does care about the IP addresses in (what I infered to be) his home
    > network. So I offered a suggestion for a good way to manage these
    > things in such a scenario. Of course, other sitations may call for
    > different measures.
    >
    > ~ Old guy
    >
    > Probably Even Older Guy
    >



    don't know if it will work for you or not, but i use a lookup in a
    table/program that gives a constant ip address to the programs based on mac
    and client id, and translates it to a dhcp assigned address for actual
    internet use (ie program thinks it has a static address, but in reality its
    translated to dynamic address).... (reverse of the same sort of thing used
    by static to dynamic stuff, to allow internet access to static ip's, that in
    reality are dynamic ip's but lookedup/translated)


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