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  1. #1
    karthikbalaguru
    Guest

    Scanning windows from linux

    Hi,
    Is there a virus scanner that can scan the windows
    from linux environment ?

    Hope the virus scanners and security related tools
    are available for free.

    Thx in advans,
    Karthik Balaguru

  2. #2
    G
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    In article <c6af182c-2b00-4f9a-bcf9-fc3509251558
    @d4g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, karthikbalaguru79@gmail.com says...
    >
    > Hi,
    > Is there a virus scanner that can scan the windows
    > from linux environment ?
    >
    > Hope the virus scanners and security related tools
    > are available for free.
    >
    > Thx in advans,
    > Karthik Balaguru


    Avira and Kaspersky both have free options available at their websites.
    You just download the program and run it. It will automatically burn a
    Linux distro with AV scanner to a CD. Just reboot from the CD any you're
    in the new system.

  3. #3
    karthikbalaguru
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    On Dec 26, 1:41*am, G <geoffstempbox-use...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > In article <c6af182c-2b00-4f9a-bcf9-fc3509251558
    > @d4g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, karthikbalagur...@gmail.com says...
    >
    >
    >
    > > Hi,
    > > Is there a virus scanner that can scan the windows
    > > from linux environment ?

    >
    > > Hope the virus scanners and security related tools
    > > are available for free.

    >
    > > Thx in advans,
    > > Karthik Balaguru

    >
    > Avira and Kaspersky both have free options available at their websites.
    > You just download the program and run it. It will automatically burn a
    > Linux distro with AV scanner to a CD. Just reboot from the CD any you're
    > in the new system.


    First of all, Thx for your response.

    I analyzed both the tools.
    I checked Avira Anti-virus (Free version). It seems to be
    based on DazukoFS and has on-access & on-demand
    scanning support. But, i am unable find an option to scan
    a Windows Machine from Linux Machine in the same Network.

    So,
    I checked the Kaspersky Anti-virus (Free version) also.
    It has an option of remote administration of Kas-persky
    Anti-Virus.For remotely using Kaspersky Administration
    Kit, the Network Agent has to be installed on the
    system that has to be remotely monitored.
    But, is there a method of avoiding the Network agent
    in the remote machine/client and scanning from this
    Administrator machine itself ?

    I find that,
    Kaspersky Administration Kit enables the complete
    remote administration of Kaspersky Anti-Virus on individual
    client computers, including: starting and pausing scans,
    general configuration such as enabling and disabling
    protection, and configuring settings for report creation.

    It seems that only linux clients can be monitored
    from windows machine. But, does it support the scanning
    of a Windows Machine from Linux Machine using the
    method of Remote monitoring ?

    Any ideas ?

    Thx in advans,
    Karthik Balaguru

  4. #4
    Jacob
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux


    "karthikbalaguru" <karthikbalaguru79@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    news:d8c20d66-1f1f-48af-add3-a490c8df2248@r33g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
    On Dec 26, 1:41 am, G <geoffstempbox-use...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > In article <c6af182c-2b00-4f9a-bcf9-fc3509251558
    > @d4g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, karthikbalagur...@gmail.com says...
    >



    It seems that only linux clients can be monitored
    from windows machine. But, does it support the scanning
    of a Windows Machine from Linux Machine using the
    method of Remote monitoring ?

    Any ideas ?

    Hello, how about mounting your Windows partition in your Linux tree? (smb or
    nfs)
    Greetings
    Jacob



  5. #5
    seeds
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    try fprot. and mount the windows partition from linux.
    On Dec 26, 5:42*am, "Jacob" <spamt...@ewetel.net> wrote:
    > "karthikbalaguru" <karthikbalagur...@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitragnews:d8c20d66-1f1f-48af-add3-a490c8df2248@r33g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
    > On Dec 26, 1:41 am, G <geoffstempbox-use...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    > > In article <c6af182c-2b00-4f9a-bcf9-fc3509251558
    > > @d4g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, karthikbalagur...@gmail.com says...

    >
    > It seems that only linux clients can be monitored
    > from windows machine. But, does it support the scanning
    > of a Windows Machine from Linux Machine using the
    > method of Remote monitoring ?
    >
    > Any ideas ?
    >
    > Hello, how about mounting your Windows partition in your Linux tree? (smbor
    > nfs)
    > Greetings
    > Jacob



  6. #6
    G
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    In article <d8c20d66-1f1f-48af-add3-a490c8df2248
    @r33g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, karthikbalaguru79@gmail.com says...
    >
    > On Dec 26, 1:41*am, G <geoffstempbox-use...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > > In article <c6af182c-2b00-4f9a-bcf9-fc3509251558
    > > @d4g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, karthikbalagur...@gmail.com says...
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > > Hi,
    > > > Is there a virus scanner that can scan the windows
    > > > from linux environment ?

    > >
    > > > Hope the virus scanners and security related tools
    > > > are available for free.

    > >
    > > > Thx in advans,
    > > > Karthik Balaguru

    > >
    > > Avira and Kaspersky both have free options available at their websites.
    > > You just download the program and run it. It will automatically burn a
    > > Linux distro with AV scanner to a CD. Just reboot from the CD any you're
    > > in the new system.

    >
    > First of all, Thx for your response.
    >
    > I analyzed both the tools.
    > I checked Avira Anti-virus (Free version). It seems to be
    > based on DazukoFS and has on-access & on-demand
    > scanning support. But, i am unable find an option to scan
    > a Windows Machine from Linux Machine in the same Network.
    >
    > So,
    > I checked the Kaspersky Anti-virus (Free version) also.
    > It has an option of remote administration of Kas-persky
    > Anti-Virus.For remotely using Kaspersky Administration
    > Kit, the Network Agent has to be installed on the
    > system that has to be remotely monitored.
    > But, is there a method of avoiding the Network agent
    > in the remote machine/client and scanning from this
    > Administrator machine itself ?
    >
    > I find that,
    > Kaspersky Administration Kit enables the complete
    > remote administration of Kaspersky Anti-Virus on individual
    > client computers, including: starting and pausing scans,
    > general configuration such as enabling and disabling
    > protection, and configuring settings for report creation.
    >
    > It seems that only linux clients can be monitored
    > from windows machine. But, does it support the scanning
    > of a Windows Machine from Linux Machine using the
    > method of Remote monitoring ?
    >
    > Any ideas ?
    >
    > Thx in advans,
    > Karthik Balaguru


    I'm sorry that I wasn't more clear in what I suggested. I was talking
    about these two tools that are available:

    http://majorgeeks.com/Avira_AntiVir_...tem_d6005.html
    http://majorgeeks.com/Kaspersky_Free_Cleaner_d4515.html

    In order to use them, you don't actually need anything other than the
    Windows system. When you download and run the .exe file on windows, it
    will burn what is essentially a "LiveCD" that is a minimal Linux distro
    that was specifically designed to deal with infections on a Windows
    machine. You don't even need a second computer. Just boot from the
    LiveCD on the machine you want to check, and run the scanner.

    I don't know if that's exactly what you're looking for, but it's the
    simplest way (in my opinion) to scan a machine when you have the
    physical machine with you. I've used each one several times, and they do
    a very nice job. Both companies typically update it several times a day,
    so the definition files will always be current.

  7. #7
    Wanna-Be Sys Admin
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    karthikbalaguru wrote:

    > Hi,
    > Is there a virus scanner that can scan the windows
    > from linux environment ?
    >
    > Hope the virus scanners and security related tools
    > are available for free.
    >
    > Thx in advans,
    > Karthik Balaguru


    Sure, if you can mount the partition/drive or whatever, have it scan the
    file system, or use it as a system for incoming data that's transfered
    to the system via email, FTP, etc.
    --
    Not really a wanna-be, but I don't know everything.

  8. #8
    karthikbalaguru
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    On Dec 27, 3:27*pm, G <geoffstempbox-use...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > In article <d8c20d66-1f1f-48af-add3-a490c8df2248
    > @r33g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, karthikbalagur...@gmail.com says...
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Dec 26, 1:41*am, G <geoffstempbox-use...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > > > In article <c6af182c-2b00-4f9a-bcf9-fc3509251558
    > > > @d4g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, karthikbalagur...@gmail.com says...

    >
    > > > > Hi,
    > > > > Is there a virus scanner that can scan the windows
    > > > > from linux environment ?

    >
    > > > > Hope the virus scanners and security related tools
    > > > > are available for free.

    >
    > > > > Thx in advans,
    > > > > Karthik Balaguru

    >
    > > > Avira and Kaspersky both have free options available at their websites.
    > > > You just download the program and run it. It will automatically burn a
    > > > Linux distro with AV scanner to a CD. Just reboot from the CD any you're
    > > > in the new system.

    >
    > > First of all, Thx for your response.

    >
    > > I analyzed both the tools.
    > > I checked Avira Anti-virus (Free version). It seems to be
    > > based on DazukoFS and has on-access & on-demand
    > > scanning support. But, i am unable find an option to scan
    > > a Windows Machine from Linux Machine in the same Network.

    >
    > > So,
    > > I checked the Kaspersky Anti-virus (Free version) also.
    > > It has an option of remote administration of Kas-persky
    > > Anti-Virus.For remotely using Kaspersky Administration
    > > Kit, the Network Agent has to be installed on the
    > > system that has to be remotely monitored.
    > > But, is there a method of avoiding the Network agent
    > > in the remote machine/client and scanning from this
    > > Administrator machine itself ?

    >
    > > I find that,
    > > Kaspersky Administration Kit enables the complete
    > > remote administration of Kaspersky Anti-Virus on individual
    > > client computers, including: starting and pausing scans,
    > > general configuration such as enabling and disabling
    > > protection, and configuring settings for report creation.

    >
    > > It seems that only linux clients can be monitored
    > > from windows machine. But, does it support the scanning
    > > of a Windows Machine from Linux Machine using the
    > > method of Remote monitoring ?

    >
    > > Any ideas ?

    >
    > > Thx in advans,
    > > Karthik Balaguru

    >
    > I'm sorry that I wasn't more clear in what I suggested. I was talking
    > about these two tools that are available:
    >
    > http://majorgeeks.com/Avira_AntiVir_...tem_d6005.html
    > http://majorgeeks.com/Kaspersky_Free_Cleaner_d4515.html
    >
    > In order to use them, you don't actually need anything other than the
    > Windows system. When you download and run the .exe file on windows, it
    > will burn what is essentially a "LiveCD" that is a minimal Linux distro
    > that was specifically designed to deal with infections on a Windows
    > machine. You don't even need a second computer. Just boot from the
    > LiveCD on the machine you want to check, and run the scanner.
    >


    The method of creation of a minimal Linux distro(LiveCD)
    on windows for dealing with the infections on windows
    sounds fantastic ! Thats cool !
    Interesting method for scanning viruses :-)

    > I don't know if that's exactly what you're looking for, but it's the
    > simplest way (in my opinion) to scan a machine when you have the
    > physical machine with you.


    I am looking for a Linux-based application that could scan
    computers by accessing them via network. (Especially the
    systems(windows based systems) that cannot be booted).

    But, the below link seems to suggests a linux-based application
    that allows accessing computers that cannot be booted anymore.
    http://majorgeeks.com/Avira_AntiVir_...tem_d6005.html
    Though it is not via network, I think, this will serve the purpose for
    the time being. Lemme know incase if there is a tool(Freeware) that
    has a feature of performing it via network.

    Your response has been very helpful !!

    >I've used each one several times, and they do
    > a very nice job. Both companies typically update it several times a day,
    > so the definition files will always be current.
    >


    Interesting ! I will check this out.

    Karthik Balaguru

  9. #9
    G
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    In article <0b7249a1-3a24-4948-9d0d-2dd203a81872
    @o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, karthikbalaguru79@gmail.com says...
    >
    > I am looking for a Linux-based application that could scan
    > computers by accessing them via network. (Especially the
    > systems(windows based systems) that cannot be booted).
    >

    I would imagine that there is a way to accomplish this on running
    networked machines using something like ClamAV, but I don't personally
    know how to do it.

    > But, the below link seems to suggests a linux-based application
    > that allows accessing computers that cannot be booted anymore.
    > http://majorgeeks.com/Avira_AntiVir_...tem_d6005.html
    > Though it is not via network, I think, this will serve the purpose for
    > the time being. Lemme know incase if there is a tool(Freeware) that
    > has a feature of performing it via network.
    >

    That tool is probably your best choice, as long as the BIOS is set to
    allow you to boot from the CD. If the machine won't boot into Windows,
    then it isn't going to show up on your network anyway. The only other
    way I know to check the drive is by physically removing it and hooking
    it up to another machine.

    You might want to check the HD as well if it doesn't boot at all. You
    could run it through something like Spinrite (not free) to check the
    health of the physical drive.

    Good luck.

  10. #10
    Aragorn
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    On Sunday 27 December 2009 14:34 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
    identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...

    > I am looking for a Linux-based application that could scan
    > computers by accessing them via network. (Especially the
    > systems(windows based systems) that cannot be booted).


    How on earth are you going to access a computer _which_ _cannot_ _be_
    _booted_ over the network? A network connection which shares
    filesystems over the network for scanning requires at least a minimal
    running operating system on the target machine.

    > But, the below link seems to suggests a linux-based application
    > that allows accessing computers that cannot be booted anymore.
    > http://majorgeeks.com/Avira_AntiVir_...tem_d6005.html
    > Though it is not via network, I think, this will serve the purpose for
    > the time being. Lemme know incase if there is a tool(Freeware) that
    > has a feature of performing it via network.


    The first requirement is that you can get the infected computer to boot.
    That means that if the machine is unbootable of itself due to a totally
    corrupted bootsector, master boot record or Windows installation, you
    will need to boot the machine off of a rescue system on a CD or DVD.

    Getting the infected machine to boot from a rescue CD (or DVD) means
    that you are physically in the vicinity of the infected computer and
    sitting at its local console, so what would be the point in then
    scanning it from somewhere else on the network? The machine would only
    be temporarily running off of a CD-based system anyway and would either
    way need to be rebooted after the scan/repair is complete, so you might
    as well stay sitting there at the machine's local console until after
    the clean-up and repair have been completed and the machine is ready
    for reboot into its native operating system.

    If on the other hand you are talking about scanning Windows partitions
    on *running* Windows machines over the network as some sort of
    preemptive scan, then you'd need to export *all* of their files over
    the network, including the Windows "C:" drive and all system files
    thereon, which is not exactly the safest way of setting up a network
    share, and which will in addition not scan the *RAM* of the Windows
    computers, where a virus might be hiding.

    The only possible way of performing a virus scan without any viruses
    hiding in the Windows machine's RAM is to boot the Windows machine from
    such a rescue CD, which - as explained higher up - and this requires
    local access to the machine in question.

    --
    *Aragorn*
    (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

  11. #11
    karthikbalaguru
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    On Dec 27, 11:59*pm, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
    > On Sunday 27 December 2009 14:34 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
    >
    > identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
    > > I am looking for a Linux-based application that could scan
    > > computers by accessing them via network. (Especially the
    > > systems(windows based systems) that cannot be booted).

    >
    > How on earth are you going to access a computer _which_ _cannot_ _be_
    > _booted_ over the network? *A network connection which shares
    > filesystems over the network for scanning requires at least a minimal
    > running operating system on the target machine.
    >


    Yes, it is a valid question. I am exploring various ways.

    The problem is, one of the infected windows machine's CD/DVD
    drive does not work . So, i was exploring alternate ways like
    using rescue CD remotely/remote techniques from a remote machine
    that has a CD/DVD drive (though i was aware of the chances
    of its availability was very less).
    Any ideas ?
    For example, in linux there is a 'kickstart installation' technique
    that will enable automated installation of Red Hat Linux on
    indivdual computers based on the answers in the file in the
    server. Similarly, is it not possible to boot windows remotely
    so that rescue CD can be used on similar lines to recover it ?

    One thought is to dis-connect the non-working CD/DVD drive
    and connect a working CD/DVD drive temporarily to fix this
    issue. But, that is ruled out due to various reasons.
    Is there no other way except for replacing the CD/DVD
    drive in that windows machine and trying with the rescue CD ?
    No way to avoid the replacement of CD/DVD drive ?

    > > But, the below link seems to suggests a linux-based application
    > > that allows accessing computers that cannot be booted anymore.
    > >http://majorgeeks.com/Avira_AntiVir_...tem_d6005.html
    > > Though it is not via network, I think, this will serve the purpose for
    > > the time being. Lemme know incase if there is a tool(Freeware) that
    > > has a feature of performing it via network.

    >
    > The first requirement is that you can get the infected computer to boot.
    > That means that if the machine is unbootable of itself due to a totally
    > corrupted bootsector, master boot record or Windows installation, you
    > will need to boot the machine off of a rescue system on a CD or DVD.
    >
    > Getting the infected machine to boot from a rescue CD (or DVD) means
    > that you are physically in the vicinity of the infected computer and
    > sitting at its local console, so what would be the point in then
    > scanning it from somewhere else on the network? *The machine would only
    > be temporarily running off of a CD-based system anyway and would either
    > way need to be rebooted after the scan/repair is complete, so you might
    > as well stay sitting there at the machine's local console until after
    > the clean-up and repair have been completed and the machine is ready
    > for reboot into its native operating system.
    >
    > If on the other hand you are talking about scanning Windows partitions
    > on *running* Windows machines over the network as some sort of
    > preemptive scan, then you'd need to export *all* of their files over
    > the network, including the Windows "C:" drive and all system files
    > thereon, which is not exactly the safest way of setting up a network
    > share, and which will in addition not scan the *RAM* of the Windows
    > computers, where a virus might be hiding.


    True !

    >
    > The only possible way of performing a virus scan without any viruses
    > hiding in the Windows machine's RAM is to boot the Windows machine from
    > such a rescue CD, which - as explained higher up - and this requires
    > local access to the machine in question.
    >


    Okay.

    Thx in advans,
    Karthik Balaguru

  12. #12
    Aragorn
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    On Sunday 27 December 2009 22:01 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
    identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...

    > On Dec 27, 11:59*pm, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
    >
    >> On Sunday 27 December 2009 14:34 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
    >> identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
    >> > I am looking for a Linux-based application that could scan
    >> > computers by accessing them via network. (Especially the
    >> > systems(windows based systems) that cannot be booted).

    >>
    >> How on earth are you going to access a computer _which_ _cannot_ _be_
    >> _booted_ over the network? *A network connection which shares
    >> filesystems over the network for scanning requires at least a minimal
    >> running operating system on the target machine.

    >
    > Yes, it is a valid question. I am exploring various ways.
    >
    > The problem is, one of the infected windows machine's CD/DVD
    > drive does not work . So, i was exploring alternate ways like
    > using rescue CD remotely/remote techniques from a remote machine
    > that has a CD/DVD drive (though i was aware of the chances
    > of its availability was very less).
    > Any ideas ?
    > For example, in linux there is a 'kickstart installation' technique
    > that will enable automated installation of Red Hat Linux on
    > indivdual computers based on the answers in the file in the
    > server. Similarly, is it not possible to boot windows remotely
    > so that rescue CD can be used on similar lines to recover it ?


    I suppose you could try a PXE boot, but the BIOS has to support it, and
    Windows has to support it as well. On the latter, I have no
    knowledge - I don't do Windows, sorry - so you would have to ask about
    that in a Windows group, or via the Microsoft Knowledge Base.

    > One thought is to dis-connect the non-working CD/DVD drive
    > and connect a working CD/DVD drive temporarily to fix this
    > issue. But, that is ruled out due to various reasons.


    At the moment it seems like you have no alternative.

    > Is there no other way except for replacing the CD/DVD
    > drive in that windows machine and trying with the rescue CD ?
    > No way to avoid the replacement of CD/DVD drive ?


    Not that I can think of, unless you've got some external USB storage
    device that the system can boot from - again, this is BIOS-dependent.

    If USB boot is supported on the target machine, then there are various
    tools in various distributions for making a bootable USB stick from
    which you could then scan the system, but none of those USB-based
    distributions would then be designated virus scanners, so you would
    probably have to add the antivirus software to the USB stick manually.
    It can be done, but it's quite a bit of work.

    On the other hand, you should be able to pick up a cheap second-hand
    internal CD or DVD drive somewhere and mount it in the machine with the
    broken CD player.

    --
    *Aragorn*
    (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

  13. #13
    karthikbalaguru
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    On Dec 28, 4:00*am, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
    > On Sunday 27 December 2009 22:01 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
    > > On Dec 27, 11:59*pm, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:

    >
    > >> On Sunday 27 December 2009 14:34 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
    > >> identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
    > >> > I am looking for a Linux-based application that could scan
    > >> > computers by accessing them via network. (Especially the
    > >> > systems(windows based systems) that cannot be booted).

    >
    > >> How on earth are you going to access a computer _which_ _cannot_ _be_
    > >> _booted_ over the network? *A network connection which shares
    > >> filesystems over the network for scanning requires at least a minimal
    > >> running operating system on the target machine.

    >
    > > Yes, it is a valid question. I am exploring various ways.

    >
    > > The problem is, one of the infected windows machine's CD/DVD
    > > drive does not work . So, i was exploring alternate ways like
    > > using rescue CD remotely/remote techniques from a remote machine
    > > that has a CD/DVD drive (though i was aware of the chances
    > > of its availability was very less).
    > > Any ideas ?
    > > For example, in linux there is a 'kickstart installation' technique
    > > that will enable automated installation of Red Hat Linux on
    > > indivdual computers based on the answers in the file in the
    > > server. Similarly, is it not possible to boot windows remotely
    > > so that rescue CD can be used on similar lines to recover it ?

    >
    > I suppose you could try a PXE boot, but the BIOS has to support it, and
    > Windows has to support it as well. *On the latter, I have no
    > knowledge - I don't do Windows, sorry - so you would have to ask about
    > that in a Windows group, or via the Microsoft Knowledge Base.
    >
    > > One thought is to dis-connect the non-working CD/DVD drive
    > > and connect a working CD/DVD drive temporarily to fix this
    > > issue. But, that is ruled out due to various reasons.

    >
    > At the moment it seems like you have no alternative.
    >
    > > Is there no other way except for replacing the CD/DVD
    > > drive in that windows machine and trying with the rescue CD ?
    > > No way to avoid the replacement of CD/DVD drive ?

    >
    > Not that I can think of, unless you've got some external USB storage
    > device that the system can boot from - again, this is BIOS-dependent.
    >
    > If USB boot is supported on the target machine, then there are various
    > tools in various distributions for making a bootable USB stick from
    > which you could then scan the system, but none of those USB-based
    > distributions would then be designated virus scanners, so you would
    > probably have to add the antivirus software to the USB stick manually.
    > It can be done, but it's quite a bit of work.
    >


    This sounds great . This will surely be helpful :-) :-)
    I think, this approach can be tried out. I need to check for the USB-
    based
    Free distributions and need to check for the method to add the Free
    antivirus software to the USB stick. Can you lemme know the
    steps/links that talk in detail about this ?

    > On the other hand, you should be able to pick up a cheap second-hand
    > internal CD or DVD drive somewhere and mount it in the machine with the
    > broken CD player.
    >

    Yeah, this is another good idea, but in the current scenario, this is
    ruled
    out due to various reasons.

    Thx in advans,
    Karthik Balaguru

  14. #14
    Aragorn
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    On Monday 28 December 2009 05:20 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
    identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...

    > On Dec 28, 4:00*am, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
    >
    >> If USB boot is supported on the target machine, then there are
    >> various tools in various distributions for making a bootable USB
    >> stick from which you could then scan the system, but none of those
    >> USB-based distributions would then be designated virus scanners, so
    >> you would probably have to add the antivirus software to the USB
    >> stick manually. It can be done, but it's quite a bit of work.
    >>

    >
    > This sounds great . This will surely be helpful :-) :-)
    > I think, this approach can be tried out. I need to check for the USB-
    > based Free distributions and need to check for the method to add the
    > Free antivirus software to the USB stick.


    Mandriva is a distribution which is available on a USB stick, and there
    are some others as well. As I gather, the cost is not too high, but
    alternatively, you can do it yourself using a freely downloadable
    distribution and a USB memory stick you already own. There are HowTos
    about it on the web. ;-)

    > Can you lemme know the steps/links that talk in detail about this ?


    Google is your friend. ;-)

    >> On the other hand, you should be able to pick up a cheap second-hand
    >> internal CD or DVD drive somewhere and mount it in the machine with
    >> the broken CD player.
    >>

    > Yeah, this is another good idea, but in the current scenario, this is
    > ruled out due to various reasons.


    I don't see why it would be a problem, if you have a non-booting
    machine, and thus a machine that is currently useless. Surely adding
    an old CD player to it - you might even find one for free - to remedy
    the problem would not be a big issue?

    --
    *Aragorn*
    (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

  15. #15
    karthikbalaguru
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    On Dec 28, 9:35*am, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
    > On Monday 28 December 2009 05:20 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
    >
    > identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
    > > On Dec 28, 4:00*am, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:

    >
    > >> If USB boot is supported on the target machine, then there are
    > >> various tools in various distributions for making a bootable USB
    > >> stick from which you could then scan the system, but none of those
    > >> USB-based distributions would then be designated virus scanners, so
    > >> you would probably have to add the antivirus software to the USB
    > >> stick manually. It can be done, but it's quite a bit of work.

    >
    > > This sounds great . This will surely be helpful :-) :-)
    > > I think, this approach can be tried out. I need to check for the USB-
    > > based Free distributions and need to check for the method to add the
    > > Free antivirus software to the USB stick.

    >
    > Mandriva is a distribution which is available on a USB stick, and there
    > are some others as well. *


    I checked Mandriva website, yeah they
    are providing on USB stick based linux, and since
    it is a full fledged linux, i think the virus scanners
    might be supported without much hassles !
    But it is not free :-(

    Lemme know if there is any other USB Stick
    based linux flavour that is available for Free ?

    Also, lemme know if there is a USB stick
    based linux flavour that would support virus
    scanners ?

    No clear info from internet so far.

    > As I gather, the cost is not too high, but
    > alternatively, you can do it yourself using a freely downloadable
    > distribution and a USB memory stick you already own. *There are HowTos
    > about it on the web. ;-)
    >


    Thinking on similar lines, i got an idea to try a
    Floppy based linux instead of USB.
    I know of MiniRTL(based on busybox) that did
    not have dependency on HDD except for the RAM
    (Even the RAM requirement is very minimal).
    Other than that, there are other flavours like
    'Tomsrtbt', Asmutils based 'a-Linux' and various
    other Busybox based flavours. But,they are all
    Floppy based.
    But, floppy drive is not available in that machine :-(

    Does tomsrtbt support USB stick based boot up ?
    I may check with the tomsrtbt user list regd this.
    Incase you have any information w.r.t tomsrtbt
    you can lemme know.

    Another query that pops in my mind is
    that these minimal versions/flavours of linux
    might not have lot of features. They might be greatly
    stripped and hence not sure if they would be able to
    provide all required support for virus scanner or similar
    tools !!
    Any thoughts on this ?

    Incase these minimal versions are not suitable
    for existing along with virus scanning utility in
    the USB stick, do lemme know.

    > > Can you lemme know the steptrs/links that talk in detail about this ?

    >
    > Google is your friend. ;-)
    >


    Yeah, need to search/check the HOWTos in the
    internet to setup my own USB Stick based Linux
    so that it is Free . After that, the method to have the
    virus scanner on it should be tried out. I think
    this should be just straight forward just like having
    any other application on embedded linux.

    > >> On the other hand, you should be able to pick up a cheap second-hand
    > >> internal CD or DVD drive somewhere and mount it in the machine with
    > >> the broken CD player.

    >
    > > Yeah, this is another good idea, but in the current scenario, this is
    > > ruled out due to various reasons.

    >


    PS - Have looped in comp.os.linux.embedded
    to get their thoughts also as it is going towards
    that direction also interms of footprints,utilities
    in FD based linux, USB stick based linux ,
    Tiny linux flavours having support for virus scanner
    etc.

    Thx in advans,
    Karthik Balaguru

  16. #16
    karthikbalaguru
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    On Dec 28, 11:09*pm, karthikbalaguru <karthikbalagur...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    > On Dec 28, 9:35*am, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Monday 28 December 2009 05:20 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody

    >
    > > identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
    > > > On Dec 28, 4:00*am, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:

    >
    > > >> If USB boot is supported on the target machine, then there are
    > > >> various tools in various distributions for making a bootable USB
    > > >> stick from which you could then scan the system, but none of those
    > > >> USB-based distributions would then be designated virus scanners, so
    > > >> you would probably have to add the antivirus software to the USB
    > > >> stick manually. It can be done, but it's quite a bit of work.

    >
    > > > This sounds great . This will surely be helpful :-) :-)
    > > > I think, this approach can be tried out. I need to check for the USB-
    > > > based Free distributions and need to check for the method to add the
    > > > Free antivirus software to the USB stick.

    >
    > > Mandriva is a distribution which is available on a USB stick, and there
    > > are some others as well. *

    >
    > I checked Mandriva website, yeah they
    > are providing on USB stick based linux, and since
    > it is a full fledged linux, i think the virus scanners
    > might be supported without much hassles !
    > But it is not free :-(
    >
    > Lemme know if there is any other USB Stick
    > based linux flavour that is available for Free ?
    >


    http://www.linux.com/distrocentral/d...h-disk-distros
    This seems to have some good pointers to
    start with.
    DSL and Puppylinux seem to be very good.
    Nothing like setting up Ubuntu as it is a full
    blown linux.
    Pendrive linux seems to have started from
    Mandriva and unlike Mandriva Linux, i think
    this is also Free.

    > Also, lemme know if there is a USB stick
    > based linux flavour that would support virus
    > scanners ?
    >
    > No clear info from internet so far.
    >


    A)
    Ubuntu based USB has Synaptic Packet
    Manager system that could be used to install,
    remove, configure, or upgrade software packages,
    browse, sort and search the list of available
    software packages, manage repositories, or
    upgrade the whole system.
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto

    I think, this can be used to get the virus
    scanner onto the USB stick once the Ubuntu
    is up from the USB stick. Need to check.
    But,
    No clear method is available on the method of
    addition of new software. Any ideas ?

    B)
    In Puppy linux, i found specific statements
    that convey that one can use antivirus that is
    built-in or can be installed in Puppy.
    http://puppylinux.org/main/index.php...%20Started.htm
    But, did not get a clear link on the method
    of addition of new application to it. Any ideas ?

    C)
    Pendrivelinux also seems to be full
    blown linux, and the virus scanner can
    be installed just as this application is installed
    in the below link -
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8465858
    Lemme know if this Pendrivelinux method fine
    as conveyed in above link ?

    > > As I gather, the cost is not too high, but
    > > alternatively, you can do it yourself using a freely downloadable
    > > distribution and a USB memory stick you already own. *There are HowTos
    > > about it on the web. ;-)

    >
    > Thinking on similar lines, i got an idea to try a
    > Floppy based linux instead of USB.
    > I know of MiniRTL(based on busybox) that did
    > not have dependency on HDD except for the RAM
    > (Even the RAM requirement is very minimal).
    > Other than that, there are other flavours like
    > 'Tomsrtbt', Asmutils based 'a-Linux' and various
    > other Busybox based flavours. But,they are all
    > Floppy based.
    > But, floppy drive is not available in that machine :-(
    >
    > Does tomsrtbt support USB stick based boot up ?
    > I may check with the tomsrtbt user list regd this.
    > Incase you have any information w.r.t tomsrtbt
    > you can lemme know.
    >
    > Another query that pops in my mind is
    > that these minimal versions/flavours of linux
    > might not have lot of features. They might be greatly
    > stripped and hence not sure if they would be able to
    > provide all required support for virus scanner or similar
    > tools !!
    > Any thoughts on this ?
    >
    > Incase these minimal versions are not suitable
    > for existing along with virus scanning utility in
    > the USB stick, do lemme know.
    >
    > > > Can you lemme know the steptrs/links that talk in detail about this ?

    >
    > > Google is your friend. ;-)

    >
    > Yeah, need to search/check the HOWTos in the
    > internet to setup my own USB Stick based Linux
    > so that it is Free . After that, the method to have the
    > virus scanner on it should be tried out. I think
    > this should be just straight forward just like having
    > any other application on embedded linux.
    >
    > > >> On the other hand, you should be able to pick up a cheap second-hand
    > > >> internal CD or DVD drive somewhere and mount it in the machine with
    > > >> the broken CD player.

    >
    > > > Yeah, this is another good idea, but in the current scenario, this is
    > > > ruled out due to various reasons.

    >
    > PS - Have looped in comp.os.linux.embedded
    > to get their thoughts also as *it is going towards
    > that direction also interms of footprints,utilities
    > in FD based linux, USB stick based linux ,
    > Tiny linux flavours having support for virus scanner
    > etc.
    >


    Thx in advans,
    Karthik Balaguru

  17. #17
    Hans-Peter Diettrich
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    karthikbalaguru schrieb:

    >> Mandriva is a distribution which is available on a USB stick, and there
    >> are some others as well.

    >
    > I checked Mandriva website, yeah they
    > are providing on USB stick based linux, and since
    > it is a full fledged linux, i think the virus scanners
    > might be supported without much hassles !
    > But it is not free :-(


    I'm also interested in a free (maybe trial) version of a Linux on an USB
    stick. Some time ago I tried to install such a system myself (BartPE?),
    but couldn't make it work with my machines. Now I don't know whether
    it's a matter of the software or of my BIOSes, why I couldn't boot from
    the stick :-(


    >> As I gather, the cost is not too high, but
    >> alternatively, you can do it yourself using a freely downloadable
    >> distribution and a USB memory stick you already own. There are HowTos
    >> about it on the web. ;-)


    Can you give a concrete link, or an search key?

    DoDi

  18. #18
    G
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    In article <80080394-814b-40b1-9b50-
    dda4741053ba@q2g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, karthikbalaguru79@gmail.com
    says...
    >
    > On Dec 28, 4:00*am, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
    > > On Sunday 27 December 2009 22:01 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
    > > > On Dec 27, 11:59*pm, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:

    > >
    > > >> On Sunday 27 December 2009 14:34 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
    > > >> identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
    > > >> > I am looking for a Linux-based application that could scan
    > > >> > computers by accessing them via network. (Especially the
    > > >> > systems(windows based systems) that cannot be booted).

    > >
    > > >> How on earth are you going to access a computer _which_ _cannot_ _be_
    > > >> _booted_ over the network? *A network connection which shares
    > > >> filesystems over the network for scanning requires at least a minimal
    > > >> running operating system on the target machine.

    > >
    > > > Yes, it is a valid question. I am exploring various ways.

    > >
    > > > The problem is, one of the infected windows machine's CD/DVD
    > > > drive does not work . So, i was exploring alternate ways like
    > > > using rescue CD remotely/remote techniques from a remote machine
    > > > that has a CD/DVD drive (though i was aware of the chances
    > > > of its availability was very less).
    > > > Any ideas ?
    > > > For example, in linux there is a 'kickstart installation' technique
    > > > that will enable automated installation of Red Hat Linux on
    > > > indivdual computers based on the answers in the file in the
    > > > server. Similarly, is it not possible to boot windows remotely
    > > > so that rescue CD can be used on similar lines to recover it ?

    > >
    > > I suppose you could try a PXE boot, but the BIOS has to support it, and
    > > Windows has to support it as well. *On the latter, I have no
    > > knowledge - I don't do Windows, sorry - so you would have to ask about
    > > that in a Windows group, or via the Microsoft Knowledge Base.
    > >
    > > > One thought is to dis-connect the non-working CD/DVD drive
    > > > and connect a working CD/DVD drive temporarily to fix this
    > > > issue. But, that is ruled out due to various reasons.

    > >
    > > At the moment it seems like you have no alternative.
    > >
    > > > Is there no other way except for replacing the CD/DVD
    > > > drive in that windows machine and trying with the rescue CD ?
    > > > No way to avoid the replacement of CD/DVD drive ?

    > >
    > > Not that I can think of, unless you've got some external USB storage
    > > device that the system can boot from - again, this is BIOS-dependent.
    > >
    > > If USB boot is supported on the target machine, then there are various
    > > tools in various distributions for making a bootable USB stick from
    > > which you could then scan the system, but none of those USB-based
    > > distributions would then be designated virus scanners, so you would
    > > probably have to add the antivirus software to the USB stick manually.
    > > It can be done, but it's quite a bit of work.
    > >

    >
    > This sounds great . This will surely be helpful :-) :-)
    > I think, this approach can be tried out. I need to check for the USB-
    > based
    > Free distributions and need to check for the method to add the Free
    > antivirus software to the USB stick. Can you lemme know the
    > steps/links that talk in detail about this ?
    >
    > > On the other hand, you should be able to pick up a cheap second-hand
    > > internal CD or DVD drive somewhere and mount it in the machine with the
    > > broken CD player.
    > >

    > Yeah, this is another good idea, but in the current scenario, this is
    > ruled
    > out due to various reasons.
    >
    > Thx in advans,
    > Karthik Balaguru


    I've been partial to Fedora for a long time. So here's one for you to
    check out.

    https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_t...d_use_Live_USB

    I've never used, but have heard many good impressions of DSL.

    http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/

    And here's a little more info.

    http://www.linux-live.org/

  19. #19
    Aragorn
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    On Monday 28 December 2009 19:09 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
    identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...

    > On Dec 28, 9:35*am, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
    >
    >> On Monday 28 December 2009 05:20 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
    >> identifying as karthikbalaguru wrote...
    >>
    >> > On Dec 28, 4:00*am, Aragorn <arag...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:

    >>
    >> >> If USB boot is supported on the target machine, then there are
    >> >> various tools in various distributions for making a bootable USB
    >> >> stick from which you could then scan the system, but none of those
    >> >> USB-based distributions would then be designated virus scanners,
    >> >> so you would probably have to add the antivirus software to the
    >> >> USB stick manually. It can be done, but it's quite a bit of work.

    >>
    >> > This sounds great . This will surely be helpful :-) :-)
    >> > I think, this approach can be tried out. I need to check for the
    >> > USB- based Free distributions and need to check for the method to
    >> > add the Free antivirus software to the USB stick.

    >>
    >> Mandriva is a distribution which is available on a USB stick, and
    >> there are some others as well.

    >
    > I checked Mandriva website, yeah they
    > are providing on USB stick based linux, and since
    > it is a full fledged linux, i think the virus scanners
    > might be supported without much hassles !
    > But it is not free :-(


    Of course not - last thing I heard nobody was giving away USB sticks for
    free yet. ;-)

    > Lemme know if there is any other USB Stick
    > based linux flavour that is available for Free ?


    You are not going to find one, since USB sticks cost money. Most
    distributions do however have the necessary tools for creating a
    USB-stick-based GNU/Linux distribution, and some may even have
    preconfigured and automated utilities to do such a thing for you.

    > Also, lemme know if there is a USB stick
    > based linux flavour that would support virus
    > scanners ?


    Google is your friend.

    > No clear info from internet so far.


    Then you didn't look well enough. ;-)

    >> As I gather, the cost is not too high, but
    >> alternatively, you can do it yourself using a freely downloadable
    >> distribution and a USB memory stick you already own. *There are
    >> HowTos about it on the web. ;-)
    >>

    >
    > Thinking on similar lines, i got an idea to try a
    > Floppy based linux instead of USB.


    Well, good luck with that then. The 2.6 kernel doesn't even fit on a
    floppy anymore, so you'd be stuck with an old kernel, which may not
    support all of your hardware. For instance, I don't even know whether
    2.4 supports SATA hard disks.

    > I know of MiniRTL(based on busybox) that did
    > not have dependency on HDD except for the RAM
    > (Even the RAM requirement is very minimal).
    > Other than that, there are other flavours like
    > 'Tomsrtbt', Asmutils based 'a-Linux' and various
    > other Busybox based flavours. But,they are all
    > Floppy based.


    If they are floppy-based, then they will certainly not hold any decent
    antivirus software, given the size of such software suits.

    > But, floppy drive is not available in that machine :-(


    Then why even consider it? ;-)

    > Does tomsrtbt support USB stick based boot up ?


    That is not what it was designed for, but in theory, you should be able
    to make a bootable USB stick with the contents of that CD, yes. On the
    other hand, you'd be far better off with a more complete distribution,
    e.g. Knoppix.

    > I may check with the tomsrtbt user list regd this.
    > Incase you have any information w.r.t tomsrtbt
    > you can lemme know.


    I can't really help you with that. I've only used it once or twice, in
    order to detect hardware errors on one of my machines.

    > Another query that pops in my mind is
    > that these minimal versions/flavours of linux
    > might not have lot of features. They might be greatly
    > stripped and hence not sure if they would be able to
    > provide all required support for virus scanner or similar
    > tools !!
    > Any thoughts on this ?


    Yes, that is what I wrote higher up already. You'd be far better off
    with a "real" distro. There are several live-CD based distros, and
    other distros allow you to make a live-CD with a few simple
    mouseclicks, or a bootable USB stick. Look here and see whether you
    can find something to your liking:

    http://www.distrowatch.com

    > Incase these minimal versions are not suitable
    > for existing along with virus scanning utility in
    > the USB stick, do lemme know.


    They will probably not have such scanners "on board", so you'd have to
    add them yourself. The simpler the base you start from, the more work
    you'll have at producing a bootable USB stick with a working distro
    *and* a virus scanner.

    > PS - Have looped in comp.os.linux.embedded
    > to get their thoughts also as it is going towards
    > that direction also interms of footprints,utilities
    > in FD based linux, USB stick based linux ,
    > Tiny linux flavours having support for virus scanner
    > etc.


    USB sticks and floppy disks are not "embedded Linux". Embedded
    (GNU/)Linux is what you find in routers, cellphones and satnav systems,
    i.e. the "system on a chip" approach. Such systems usually don't come
    with antivirus software, and most of the time those devices are
    configured to not work as if they are complete UNIX systems.

    For instance, a Linksys WRT router has a Linux-based system in firmware,
    but other than approaching it via a webbrowser to make a few changes to
    the settings, you can't do much with it, since the device was never
    designed for any other purposes than being a router. Alternative
    firmware downloads do exist, but they really *are* alternative, i.e.
    you'd have to install it yourself. And for your intended purposes, the
    issue is moot.

    --
    *Aragorn*
    (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

  20. #20
    karthikbalaguru
    Guest

    Re: Scanning windows from linux

    On Dec 29, 1:08*am, markhob...@hotpop.donottypethisbit.com (Mark
    Hobley) wrote:
    > karthikbalaguru <karthikbalagur...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > > Lemme know if there is any other USB Stick
    > > based linux flavour that is available for Free ?

    >
    > Ubuntu provides a utility to create a bootable USB stick.
    >
    >
    >
    > > Also, lemme know if there is a USB stick
    > > based linux flavour that would support virus
    > > scanners ?

    >
    > Ubuntu provides clamav.
    >


    Great ! This is interesting.

    I searched for setting up ubuntu in USB stick
    and the below link -
    http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-x-ubuntu-610/

    Another link that claims the installation of ubuntu
    in USB stick from Live CD is below -
    http://www.techbuzz.in/installation-...he-live-cd.php

    Does clamav come by default after following
    the procedures mentioned in the below link ?
    http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-x-ubuntu-610/

    Or, should we need to add clamav by setting
    up the network/internet once the ubuntu is up from the
    USB stick ?

    Thx in advans,
    Karthik Balaguru

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