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    Obama: I値l let gays serve openly in military

    WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama pledged to end the ban on homosexuals serving openly in the military in a speech Saturday, but acknowledged to a cheering crowd that the policy changes he promised on the campaign trail are not coming as quickly as they expected.

    Article....http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33255971...cs-white_house

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    The further downfall of our society continues sadly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent View Post
    The further downfall of our society continues sadly
    Yes, God forbid this liberal democracy actually act like a liberal democracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyOneDoofy View Post
    WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama pledged to end the ban on homosexuals serving openly in the military in a speech Saturday, but acknowledged to a cheering crowd that the policy changes he promised on the campaign trail are not coming as quickly as they expected.

    Article....http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33255971...cs-white_house

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    It is long over due, now let's see if he can keep his word.
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    Even though I am a Christian conservative and retired Marine, I really have no problem with a homosexual serving in the military. They have been for a long time. What I do have a problem with is disruption. IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW, WHO WHAT OR WHY the disruption but rather that the potential is there. You cannot make all the people think a like and just because a rule says it's allowable doesn't make it work smoothly. The military is not the best climate for extra uneasiness given the already heavy workload and stressful environment. The world has changed and the younger generation has a completely different attitude towards many things that would make their parent's gasp. Homosexuals are not treated the same way as they were 20-30 years a go and quite frankly I see more liberation than the black people have received in 200 years! Time to stop whining and just "function" along side your counterpart without the need to wear a sign. Success, respect, discipline not flaunting wins the day.
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    No issues from me. If an american citizen wants to serve his country then by all means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leatherneck View Post
    Time to stop whining and just "function" along side your counterpart without the need to wear a sign. Success, respect, discipline not flaunting wins the day.
    Well said.

    No problems from me, it's always been there, now they just don't have to hide it or keep each other in the closet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leatherneck View Post
    Even though I am a Christian conservative and retired Marine, I really have no problem with a homosexual serving in the military. They have been for a long time. What I do have a problem with is disruption. IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW, WHO WHAT OR WHY the disruption but rather that the potential is there. You cannot make all the people think a like and just because a rule says it's allowable doesn't make it work smoothly. The military is not the best climate for extra uneasiness given the already heavy workload and stressful environment. The world has changed and the younger generation has a completely different attitude towards many things that would make their parent's gasp. Homosexuals are not treated the same way as they were 20-30 years a go and quite frankly I see more liberation than the black people have received in 200 years! Time to stop whining and just "function" along side your counterpart without the need to wear a sign. Success, respect, discipline not flaunting wins the day.
    Exactly. You cannot turn back time, so we must move forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leatherneck View Post
    Even though I am a Christian conservative and retired Marine, I really have no problem with a homosexual serving in the military. They have been for a long time. What I do have a problem with is disruption. IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW, WHO WHAT OR WHY the disruption but rather that the potential is there. You cannot make all the people think a like and just because a rule says it's allowable doesn't make it work smoothly. The military is not the best climate for extra uneasiness given the already heavy workload and stressful environment. The world has changed and the younger generation has a completely different attitude towards many things that would make their parent's gasp. Homosexuals are not treated the same way as they were 20-30 years a go and quite frankly I see more liberation than the black people have received in 200 years! Time to stop whining and just "function" along side your counterpart without the need to wear a sign. Success, respect, discipline not flaunting wins the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyboycool View Post
    Yes, God forbid this liberal democracy actually act like a liberal democracy.
    Huh?

    liberal democracy?


    try again.
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    You know, one time I was at a urinal with a gay man beside me and whaddya know, he immediately tried to rape me and I ran out of the bathroom feeling that I myself was becoming gay! I'm sure that in the middle of a firefight that all gay military personnel will rip off their camoes to reveal sequined jumpsuits and they'll dance to show tunes while homosexually shooting pink water pistols.

    This isn't a matter of religious or cultural thumbs-up or thumbs-down, it's one of basic participation. Gays vote, gays pay taxes, gays should be able to serve without concealment. However, I bristle at the continued need to label everything, which serves only to highlight the differences that a repeal of "don't ask, don't tell" tries to eliminate.

    Equalization-by-acclimation is one thing, but a military force can easily find itself beguiled by such accentuated differences and division.

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    I致e never had any relationship with the military, past, present and not in the foreseeable future. So the decision has no affect on me in any way. I don稚 care either way if there is an 登pen admittance policy in the military. However, I do wonder about the people that openly admit they are gay and their well-being in the military. Let痴 see how long it is before we have our first openly gay four-star general.
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    You never know, though... change does come. Imagine the ppl when the civil rights laws were passed, saying "Sure, we have rights, but lets see how long it takes to have a black president", with a roll of the eyes and a bitter sigh. It took 44 years. Lets hope we get a gay four-star general a little faster
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9mmprincess View Post
    .... Lets hope we get a gay four-star general a little faster
    I'll bet his uniforms looks FABULOUSSsss!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xpunge View Post
    I'll bet his uniforms looks FABULOUSSsss!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9mmprincess View Post
    ...Lets hope we get a gay four-star general a little faster ...

    As a matter of general acceptance, I would hope that it doesn稚 take very long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9mmprincess View Post
    You never know, though... change does come. Imagine the ppl when the civil rights laws were passed, saying "Sure, we have rights, but lets see how long it takes to have a black president", with a roll of the eyes and a bitter sigh.
    Yeah, it's too bad that the one that was elected is a Socialist wacko. We'll be sighing till he's ousted out of office in 2012.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ISOlinear View Post
    You know, one time I was at a urinal with a gay man beside me and whaddya know, he immediately tried to rape me and I ran out of the bathroom feeling that I myself was becoming gay! I'm sure that in the middle of a firefight that all gay military personnel will rip off their camoes to reveal sequined jumpsuits and they'll dance to show tunes while homosexually shooting pink water pistols.

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    This acceptance of gay is horrifying, let's just fly in the face of God and do our own thing
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