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    Quote Originally Posted by De Plano View Post
    Well he was on vacation for something like nine months of his first year
    What was the final tally for time spent away from Washington. I know it was the highest ever and I thought I read it was something like 2 or 3 years of his Presidency was spent in Texas?

    Correct me if I am wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeOldeStonecat View Post
    Yet if we keep the comparisons to "first year in office"...Bush began his term with fairly good ratings. The ratings rose to approx 90% approval within a year. He closed his first time remaining quite popular. His decline didn't begin until towards the middle of his second term.

    Lets look at Obamas ratings so far this year.....yeah, tumbling....tumbling down. Oh boy....that's not a declining hill..that's a cliff!

    He's on track to succeed at something I'm sure..and that's smashing GWBs record as departing the presidency with the worst ratings ever.
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...flameout/print

    Neither 9-11, nor the ensuing hostilities hurt is ratings. Such diversions have helped Dems and Republicans alike.

    Obama was saddled with an economic meltdown and rising unemployment, not of his doing. As much as it might aggravate the rather vociferous Republican pundits, the GOP was pitched out for a reason, and it will take time to clean up the mess (if it is actually possible).

    The "socialist" monniker stinks of the same school yard name calling bandied by the "flip-flop"/ "waffler" spinners.

    blebs is spot on. It is a billionaires' club based on self interest, party lines be damned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David View Post
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...flameout/print

    Neither 9-11, nor the ensuing hostilities hurt is ratings. Such diversions have helped Dems and Republicans alike.

    Obama was saddled with an economic meltdown and rising unemployment, not of his doing. As much as it might aggravate the rather vociferous Republican pundits, the GOP was pitched out for a reason, and it will take time to clean up the mess (if it is actually possible).

    The "socialist" monniker stinks of the same school yard name calling bandied by the "flip-flop"/ "waffler" spinners.

    blebs is spot on. It is a billionaires' club based on self interest, party lines be damned.
    Brilliantly said as always my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blebs View Post
    Guys guys guys, it's all about the Billionaire Boys Club and their lust for a one world economy and government. Party lines don't mean a thing.
    This point escapes far to many people. Its not about which side of the aisle you are on its about the $$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tao_jones View Post
    This point escapes far to many people. Its not about which side of the aisle you are on its about the $$$.

    No. People ignored it. Both Burke and I continuously rammed this info down your throats when the momentum was in our favor to stop it from happening.

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    I had to triple read your name....I initially thought this was Downhill.

    Different rating systems can help boost any sides position...my point was rather..well...//distracted by more breakfast// he did fairly well in approval ratings for greater than the first 50% of his terms.

    Not every president has been handed a smooth running country upon his arrival in office. A president with barely acceptable skills can eek out a decent term riding on the coat tails of a prior presidents good term. It'll be a true measurement of a new president to enter his term during tough times.

    I'll maintain my analogy of "We're about to re-live the Carter years".

    Quote Originally Posted by David View Post
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...flameout/print

    Neither 9-11, nor the ensuing hostilities hurt is ratings. Such diversions have helped Dems and Republicans alike.

    Obama was saddled with an economic meltdown and rising unemployment, not of his doing. As much as it might aggravate the rather vociferous Republican pundits, the GOP was pitched out for a reason, and it will take time to clean up the mess (if it is actually possible).

    The "socialist" monniker stinks of the same school yard name calling bandied by the "flip-flop"/ "waffler" spinners.

    blebs is spot on. It is a billionaires' club based on self interest, party lines be damned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YeOldeStonecat View Post
    Yet if we keep the comparisons to "first year in office"...Bush began his term with fairly good ratings. The ratings rose to approx 90% approval within a year. He closed his first time remaining quite popular. His decline didn't begin until towards the middle of his second term.

    Not accurate. Here is the correct info.

    http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob1.htm


    http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm


    Also, Bush never recovered from his Axis of Evil speech. That was in '02. From that time forward, he was in almost constant decline.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6038436.stm
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    A more accurate picture of Obama's approval ratings...which, are in the negative.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paft View Post
    ... by taking needed federal funding for the interstate system away if they don't...
    That's not some new ploy that can be blamed on Obama. Louisiana was the last holdout refusing to raise the legal drinking age from 18 to 21. When the feds said they would take away all our Interstate and highway funding, we changed our minds.

    EDIT: Another thing that really pissed the feds off, the state raised the legal age to 21 to buy alcohol but you could still legally consume it at 18. Its 21 across the board now but that did cause a hornet’s nest of controversy for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YeOldeStonecat View Post
    I had to triple read your name....I initially thought this was Downhill.

    Different rating systems can help boost any sides position...my point was rather..well...//distracted by more breakfast// he did fairly well in approval ratings for greater than the first 50% of his terms.

    Not every president has been handed a smooth running country upon his arrival in office. A president with barely acceptable skills can eek out a decent term riding on the coat tails of a prior presidents good term. It'll be a true measurement of a new president to enter his term during tough times.

    I'll maintain my analogy of "We're about to re-live the Carter years".
    First, I was pointing out that Bush had little worries outside of Gore's petitions and Chandra Levy before the galvanizing attack of 9-11. This would go to the 50% then climbing to the stellar number by years end.

    Second, the mobilization of the "grass roots" Republican pundits clearly wish for Obama to fail, even if it is to the detriment of the nation. We shall see what happens when the US finally is at war with Iran.

    As for the name calling, ad hominem makes for poor arguments but can be effective in stirring emotion.

    Sadly, I feel this era will be worse than that of Carter/Reagan.

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    Look Obama's Check list!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBrazen View Post
    ...since he made it pretty obvious that he was a full fledged Socialist and didn't try to hide it.
    Damn, it's so painful when stupid people continuously band the word "solialist!!!" around without even knowing what it means.

    I think it's about time to start privatizing the military, the pd, the fd... who else? The postal service. Any others? /shakes head in disbelief

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevebakh View Post
    Damn, it's so painful when stupid people continuously band the word "solialist!!!" around without even knowing what it means.

    I think it's about time to start privatizing the military, the pd, the fd... who else? The postal service. Any others? /shakes head in disbelief
    I would say he is dead on.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevebakh View Post
    Damn, it's so painful when stupid people continuously band the word "solialist!!!" around without even knowing what it means.

    I think it's about time to start privatizing the military, the pd, the fd... who else? The postal service. Any others? /shakes head in disbelief

    Hey stupid, look up the meaning of the word before you start throwing insults around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBrazen View Post
    Hey stupid, look up the meaning of the word before you start throwing insults around.
    I don't think I would call him stupid. He is not from this country, he has no Constitution or Bill of Rights. We fought the Revolutionary war to get away from being subject to the king(monarch). We are different then every other country as we are free men allowed to own property. People generally don't understand this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid View Post
    I don't think I would call him stupid. He is not from this country, he has no Constitution or Bill of Rights. We fought the Revolutionary war to get away from being subject to the king(monarch). We are different then every other country as we are free men allowed to own property. People generally don't understand this.
    Not that it's a bad thing, but on my other forum, we have people from the U.K., New Zealand and a couple of other places that are all trying to us that we are full of it. I can never understand why they think they have to weigh in on an issue that they know next to nothing about. I'm not knocking it because they do provide some good insights, it's just baffles me though.

    On a lighter note, I wish I could capture this this one:

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    Quote Originally Posted by blebs View Post
    Not that it's a bad thing, but on my other forum, we have people from the U.K., New Zealand and a couple of other places that are all trying to us that we are full of it. I can never understand why they think they have to weigh in on an issue that they know next to nothing about. I'm not knocking it because they do provide some good insights, it's just baffles me though.
    Because the USA is a massive country. You play a large part in the international arena. Your politics are well publicised and discussed internationally and finally, decisions and policies that are made in the USA can sometimes affect others outside of the country. More than that though, it's generally frustrating to see people misuse words, spouting the same old crap that the propaganda spewing haters are shoving down their throats. It's all one big SocialismLOL.

    I just did a quick google for sh*ts and giggles... what's your opinion on this article (out of pure curiosity)?

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...6061831.column

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevebakh View Post
    Because the USA is a massive country. You play a large part in the international arena. Your politics are well publicised and discussed internationally and finally, decisions and policies that are made in the USA can sometimes affect others outside of the country. More than that though, it's generally frustrating to see people misuse words, spouting the same old crap that the propaganda spewing haters are shoving down their throats. It's all one big SocialismLOL.

    I just did a quick google for sh*ts and giggles... what's your opinion on this article (out of pure curiosity)?

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...6061831.column
    Call him and parties whatever you want too. Fact remains that this country is being run by the elite wealthy and the government is nothing more then a tool to be used to bring about their will. What are you all going to say when the big bang happens and your looking down the barrel of a one world economy and one world government?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevebakh View Post
    Because the USA is a massive country. You play a large part in the international arena. Your politics are well publicised and discussed internationally and finally, decisions and policies that are made in the USA can sometimes affect others outside of the country. More than that though, it's generally frustrating to see people misuse words, spouting the same old crap that the propaganda spewing haters are shoving down their throats. It's all one big SocialismLOL.

    I just did a quick google for sh*ts and giggles... what's your opinion on this article (out of pure curiosity)?

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...6061831.column
    90% of our policies are unconstitutional. This is our corruption.

    If you have lots of time then may I suggest you watch this. Its about 10hrs long.

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