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Thread: Connecting to an outside antenna

  1. #1
    Meebers
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    Connecting to an outside antenna

    I have a cable connection and a wireless router that works as expected. Our
    local town has installed a wifi connection that I cannot get any signal
    strength while inside my house. If I go outside with my laptop, this
    connection is almost full strength. I plan on building an outside
    directional antenna but I am unable to come up with a method to feed it to
    my home network router. . (planning for connection in case the cable goes
    out)



  2. #2
    Jack [MVP-Networking]
    Guest

    Re: Connecting to an outside antenna

    Hi
    It is Not just a matter of Antenna, you can not feed directly signal to a
    Router from another Router (the town Router).
    You need another Wireless Device that can work as a Wireless client and it
    would feed the town free signal to your Router.
    Maybe this can Help, Wireless Bridging - http://www.ezlan.net/bridging.html
    Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).

    "Meebers" <Iwork@topposter.com> wrote in message
    news:eOjI9KkEKHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >I have a cable connection and a wireless router that works as expected.
    >Our local town has installed a wifi connection that I cannot get any signal
    >strength while inside my house. If I go outside with my laptop, this
    >connection is almost full strength. I plan on building an outside
    >directional antenna but I am unable to come up with a method to feed it to
    >my home network router. . (planning for connection in case the cable goes
    >out)
    >



  3. #3
    Meebers
    Guest

    Re: Connecting to an outside antenna

    The town is recommending this:
    http://www.ruckuswireless.com/produc...mediaflex-2200
    but it is still an indoor antenna. It does have eithernet (rj45) output for
    connection directly to your lan input jack. I would think??? I could
    connect it directly to one of my gigabit switch inputs. and place it in the
    attic ( hate to have a powered item in the attic). What is stopping me is
    the city's cost of $112.00 Of interest, found a link in your reference to
    ezlan was this: Hawking Technology's HWUG1


    "Jack [MVP-Networking]" <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message
    news:ujzxPN8EKHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > Hi
    > It is Not just a matter of Antenna, you can not feed directly signal to a
    > Router from another Router (the town Router).
    > You need another Wireless Device that can work as a Wireless client and it
    > would feed the town free signal to your Router.
    > Maybe this can Help, Wireless Bridging -
    > http://www.ezlan.net/bridging.html
    > Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).
    >
    > "Meebers" <Iwork@topposter.com> wrote in message
    > news:eOjI9KkEKHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>I have a cable connection and a wireless router that works as expected.
    >>Our local town has installed a wifi connection that I cannot get any
    >>signal strength while inside my house. If I go outside with my laptop,
    >>this connection is almost full strength. I plan on building an outside
    >>directional antenna but I am unable to come up with a method to feed it to
    >>my home network router. . (planning for connection in case the cable goes
    >>out)
    >>

    >




  4. #4
    Lem
    Guest

    Re: Connecting to an outside antenna

    Meebers wrote:
    > The town is recommending this:
    > http://www.ruckuswireless.com/produc...mediaflex-2200
    > but it is still an indoor antenna. It does have eithernet (rj45) output for
    > connection directly to your lan input jack. I would think??? I could
    > connect it directly to one of my gigabit switch inputs. and place it in the
    > attic ( hate to have a powered item in the attic). What is stopping me is
    > the city's cost of $112.00 Of interest, found a link in your reference to
    > ezlan was this: Hawking Technology's HWUG1
    >
    >
    > "Jack [MVP-Networking]" <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message
    > news:ujzxPN8EKHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> Hi
    >> It is Not just a matter of Antenna, you can not feed directly signal to a
    >> Router from another Router (the town Router).
    >> You need another Wireless Device that can work as a Wireless client and it
    >> would feed the town free signal to your Router.
    >> Maybe this can Help, Wireless Bridging -
    >> http://www.ezlan.net/bridging.html
    >> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).
    >>
    >> "Meebers" <Iwork@topposter.com> wrote in message
    >> news:eOjI9KkEKHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>> I have a cable connection and a wireless router that works as expected.
    >>> Our local town has installed a wifi connection that I cannot get any
    >>> signal strength while inside my house. If I go outside with my laptop,
    >>> this connection is almost full strength. I plan on building an outside
    >>> directional antenna but I am unable to come up with a method to feed it to
    >>> my home network router. . (planning for connection in case the cable goes
    >>> out)
    >>>

    >
    >


    What is it that you are trying to do? Get rid of your cable ISP?

    That is, do you want your laptop to be able to connect to the town's
    wifi network *instead* of connecting to your own wireless network?

    Or do you want to use the town's wifi network as the input to your own
    router and then connect (wired or wireless) within your own house to
    your own router?

    The particular hardware you need will differ depending on what you want
    to do.

    BTW, if you want to install equipment in your attic but don't want to
    run a power line there, consider Power over Ethernet (you'll be better
    off using a long Ethernet cable run and a short antenna coax run rather
    than vice versa):
    e.g.: http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WAPPOE12
    http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=332
    --
    Lem -- MS-MVP

    Apollo 11 - 40 years ago this month:
    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html

  5. #5
    Meebers
    Guest

    Re: Connecting to an outside antenna

    Lem...what I am trying to do is add another means of connecting to the
    internet in the event that my cable connection goes out. (Coincidently the
    neighborhood was out for 3 hours today, first time in 6-8 months) I would
    like my home network (wired and wireless) to be able to use the town Wifi
    connection while the cable is out. (gearing up for hurrican system) The
    Ruckus device is an antenna/router with DHCP capabilities and eithernet
    output. I understand the need to keep the antenna coax as short as possible
    because of the signal loss.


    "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message
    news:OxfqE0KFKHA.1336@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > Meebers wrote:
    >> The town is recommending this:
    >> http://www.ruckuswireless.com/produc...mediaflex-2200
    >> but it is still an indoor antenna. It does have eithernet (rj45) output
    >> for connection directly to your lan input jack. I would think??? I could
    >> connect it directly to one of my gigabit switch inputs. and place it in
    >> the attic ( hate to have a powered item in the attic). What is stopping
    >> me is the city's cost of $112.00 Of interest, found a link in your
    >> reference to ezlan was this: Hawking Technology's HWUG1
    >>
    >>
    >> "Jack [MVP-Networking]" <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message
    >> news:ujzxPN8EKHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>> Hi
    >>> It is Not just a matter of Antenna, you can not feed directly signal to
    >>> a Router from another Router (the town Router).
    >>> You need another Wireless Device that can work as a Wireless client and
    >>> it would feed the town free signal to your Router.
    >>> Maybe this can Help, Wireless Bridging -
    >>> http://www.ezlan.net/bridging.html
    >>> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).
    >>>
    >>> "Meebers" <Iwork@topposter.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:eOjI9KkEKHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>> I have a cable connection and a wireless router that works as expected.
    >>>> Our local town has installed a wifi connection that I cannot get any
    >>>> signal strength while inside my house. If I go outside with my laptop,
    >>>> this connection is almost full strength. I plan on building an outside
    >>>> directional antenna but I am unable to come up with a method to feed it
    >>>> to my home network router. . (planning for connection in case the
    >>>> cable goes out)
    >>>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    > What is it that you are trying to do? Get rid of your cable ISP?
    >
    > That is, do you want your laptop to be able to connect to the town's wifi
    > network *instead* of connecting to your own wireless network?
    >
    > Or do you want to use the town's wifi network as the input to your own
    > router and then connect (wired or wireless) within your own house to your
    > own router?
    >
    > The particular hardware you need will differ depending on what you want to
    > do.
    >
    > BTW, if you want to install equipment in your attic but don't want to run
    > a power line there, consider Power over Ethernet (you'll be better off
    > using a long Ethernet cable run and a short antenna coax run rather than
    > vice versa):
    > e.g.: http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WAPPOE12
    > http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=332
    > --
    > Lem -- MS-MVP
    >
    > Apollo 11 - 40 years ago this month:
    > http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html




  6. #6
    Lem
    Guest

    Re: Connecting to an outside antenna

    Meebers wrote:
    > Lem...what I am trying to do is add another means of connecting to the
    > internet in the event that my cable connection goes out. (Coincidently the
    > neighborhood was out for 3 hours today, first time in 6-8 months) I would
    > like my home network (wired and wireless) to be able to use the town Wifi
    > connection while the cable is out. (gearing up for hurrican system) The
    > Ruckus device is an antenna/router with DHCP capabilities and eithernet
    > output. I understand the need to keep the antenna coax as short as possible
    > because of the signal loss.
    >
    >
    > "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message
    > news:OxfqE0KFKHA.1336@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >> Meebers wrote:
    >>> The town is recommending this:
    >>> http://www.ruckuswireless.com/produc...mediaflex-2200
    >>> but it is still an indoor antenna. It does have eithernet (rj45) output
    >>> for connection directly to your lan input jack. I would think??? I could
    >>> connect it directly to one of my gigabit switch inputs. and place it in
    >>> the attic ( hate to have a powered item in the attic). What is stopping
    >>> me is the city's cost of $112.00 Of interest, found a link in your
    >>> reference to ezlan was this: Hawking Technology's HWUG1
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Jack [MVP-Networking]" <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:ujzxPN8EKHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Hi
    >>>> It is Not just a matter of Antenna, you can not feed directly signal to
    >>>> a Router from another Router (the town Router).
    >>>> You need another Wireless Device that can work as a Wireless client and
    >>>> it would feed the town free signal to your Router.
    >>>> Maybe this can Help, Wireless Bridging -
    >>>> http://www.ezlan.net/bridging.html
    >>>> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).
    >>>>
    >>>> "Meebers" <Iwork@topposter.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:eOjI9KkEKHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> I have a cable connection and a wireless router that works as expected.
    >>>>> Our local town has installed a wifi connection that I cannot get any
    >>>>> signal strength while inside my house. If I go outside with my laptop,
    >>>>> this connection is almost full strength. I plan on building an outside
    >>>>> directional antenna but I am unable to come up with a method to feed it
    >>>>> to my home network router. . (planning for connection in case the
    >>>>> cable goes out)
    >>>>>
    >>>

    >> What is it that you are trying to do? Get rid of your cable ISP?
    >>
    >> That is, do you want your laptop to be able to connect to the town's wifi
    >> network *instead* of connecting to your own wireless network?
    >>
    >> Or do you want to use the town's wifi network as the input to your own
    >> router and then connect (wired or wireless) within your own house to your
    >> own router?
    >>
    >> The particular hardware you need will differ depending on what you want to
    >> do.
    >>
    >> BTW, if you want to install equipment in your attic but don't want to run
    >> a power line there, consider Power over Ethernet (you'll be better off
    >> using a long Ethernet cable run and a short antenna coax run rather than
    >> vice versa):
    >> e.g.: http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WAPPOE12
    >> http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=332
    >> --
    >> Lem -- MS-MVP
    >>
    >> Apollo 11 - 40 years ago this month:
    >> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html

    >
    >


    Again, it depends on whether you want to be able to use your own LAN or not.

    In addition, the type and location of antenna you'll need depends on
    where you are located relative to the town's antenna.

    You wrote that you don't get any signal inside your house, but you get
    full strength outside. What about next to a window in the room where you
    would like to be when you're using the laptop? If the outside location
    where you can acquire the signal is on the other side of the house, then
    you'll have to mount an antenna facing in that direction. Otherwise, you
    may be able acquire an adequate signal indoors if you're next to a
    window. And if that works, you may be able to move away from the window
    if you use a more efficient antenna.

    If all you want is to be able to connect one computer to the town wifi
    network for brief periods in the event of a temporary emergency where
    somehow your cable connection is down but the town's wifi is not, I'd
    suggest using your laptop on the side of the house facing the town's
    wifi antenna, with an indoor high-gain and/or directional antenna if
    necessary.

    Examples:

    wifi-G adapter with built-in high-gain directional antenna:

    http://www.hawkingtech.com/products/...=60&ProdID=308
    http://www.hawkingtech.com/products/...=60&ProdID=398
    (it's not clear to me what "improvements" may have been made to the
    newer version that's supposed to be available next month)

    Separate adapters, antennas, and extension cables:

    http://www.hawkingtech.com/products/...=33&ProdID=302

    None of the above will permit you to use your router and any other
    devices on your LAN. If you really want to have that functionality,
    you'll have to purchase some type of bridging device that may or may not
    also need a high-gain and/or directional antenna depending on where you
    locate it.

    --
    Lem -- MS-MVP

    Apollo 11 - 40 years ago this month:
    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html

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