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  1. #1
    News
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    'Exploding' iPhones investigated

    'Exploding' iPhones investigated

    iphone (AP)

    The iPhone's lithium ion batteries are thought to be to blame

    French consumer groups are investigating reports of iPhones that explode
    or crack spontaneously.

    An 80-year-old from the Paris suburbs was among eight people who said
    their phones' screens were affected, according to the AFP news agency.

    Consumers in the UK, Holland and Sweden have reported similar problems,
    prompting an earlier EU investigation.

    Apple said it was aware of the reports and was waiting to receive the
    handsets from the affected customers.

    The firm has been accused of trying to hush-up cases of iPhones and
    iPods heating up or bursting into flames in the US and the UK.

    Earlier this year, Ken Stanborough and his daughter, from Liverpool,
    accused the firm of trying to silence them with a gagging order after
    the child's iPod exploded and the family sought a refund.

    Apple reportedly offered to pay the money to Mr Stanborough, but only if
    he kept the terms of the settlement confidential.

    It has been reported that the device's lithium ion batteries could be
    the source of the problem.

    European alert

    In the latest case, Rolland Caufman, a pensioner from a Paris suburb,
    said his iPhone screen had broken up without explanation in July, the
    week after he bought it.

    "I took it out of my pocket and held it to my ear and saw the screen
    crack up like a car windscreen," he told AFP.

    We are waiting to receive the iPhones from the customers
    Alan Hely, Apple

    Mr Caufman has since been issued a replacement phone.

    However, there have been other, similar reports.

    On Tuesday, a 26-year-old security guard claimed he was hit in the eye
    with a glass shard when his iPhone screen cracked up.

    He has said he would seek a full refund and file suit for damages.

    The incidents have prompted investigations by French consumer affairs
    groups.

    "An investigation is under way. We have been alerted to the problem and
    we are looking into it closely," said a spokesman from watchdog DGCCRF.

    The European Commission has also asked the 27 EU nations to keep it
    informed of any problems, under its Rapex scheme.

    Rapex is the EU rapid alert system for dangerous consumer products.

    The system issue alerts for multiple products every week, sometimes
    leading to mass product recalls, but often with no consequence.

    Apple, which has sold 26 million iPhones and 200 million iPods to date,
    said it was aware of the reports.

    "We are waiting to receive the iPhones from the customers," said Alan
    Hely, head of European Communications for Apple.

    "Until we have the full details, we don't have anything further to add."

  2. #2
    Char Jackson
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    Re: 'Exploding' iPhones investigated

    On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:47:06 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

    >'Exploding' iPhones investigated


    I'm waiting to hear that "there's an app for that."


  3. #3
    News
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    Re: 'Exploding' iPhones investigated

    Char Jackson wrote:
    > On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:47:06 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
    >
    >> 'Exploding' iPhones investigated

    >
    > I'm waiting to hear that "there's an app for that."
    >



    Or "It's a feature."

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    Jeff Liebermann
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    Re: 'Exploding' iPhones investigated

    On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:02:50 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
    wrote:

    >On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:47:06 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
    >>'Exploding' iPhones investigated


    >I'm waiting to hear that "there's an app for that."


    <http://www.rockifone.com>
    However, I can't find the "days until warranty expires" feature.

    I'm waiting to hear Apple blame 3rd party replacement batteries.
    That's roughly what initially happend when Nokia discovered it was
    selling exploding batteries:
    <http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases/showpressrelease?newsid=1146281>
    My guess(tm) is that Apple will pay off the alleged victims and
    quietly switch battery vendors.

    I sometimes dig through the battery pile at the local recyclers and at
    the dump (er... transfer station). It's not unusual to see perhaps an
    office trash can full of batteries. There are usually a large number
    of cell phone Li-Ion and LIPO batteries in the trash, many of which
    seem to be bulging to various degrees. I've also seen this in various
    devices that I own (Palm Tungsten E2, Sony Clie, Ipod Touch, etc).
    When they get old, they get warm when charged, and eventually bulge.
    Looking at the design of some cell phone battery covers, I suspect
    that some bulging is expected (and tolerated).

    I'm also wondering if the EU will ban non-replaceable batteries in
    such devices as some kind of safety hazard. As with all product
    liability litigation, it's not the odds, it's the risks. The risks of
    having a phone blow up in your face greatly outweighs the odds of it
    happening.

    --
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    150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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    NotMe
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    Re: 'Exploding' iPhones investigated


    "Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
    news:mocd95h8sbl1uaes2ipeokvjia0suiok98@4ax.com...
    : On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:02:50 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
    : wrote:
    :
    : >On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:47:06 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
    : >>'Exploding' iPhones investigated
    :
    : >I'm waiting to hear that "there's an app for that."
    :
    : <http://www.rockifone.com>
    : However, I can't find the "days until warranty expires" feature.
    :
    : I'm waiting to hear Apple blame 3rd party replacement batteries.
    : That's roughly what initially happend when Nokia discovered it was
    : selling exploding batteries:
    :
    <http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases/showpressrelease?newsid=1146281>
    : My guess(tm) is that Apple will pay off the alleged victims and
    : quietly switch battery vendors.
    :
    : I sometimes dig through the battery pile at the local recyclers and at
    : the dump (er... transfer station). It's not unusual to see perhaps an
    : office trash can full of batteries. There are usually a large number
    : of cell phone Li-Ion and LIPO batteries in the trash, many of which
    : seem to be bulging to various degrees. I've also seen this in various
    : devices that I own (Palm Tungsten E2, Sony Clie, Ipod Touch, etc).
    : When they get old, they get warm when charged, and eventually bulge.
    : Looking at the design of some cell phone battery covers, I suspect
    : that some bulging is expected (and tolerated).
    :
    : I'm also wondering if the EU will ban non-replaceable batteries in
    : such devices as some kind of safety hazard. As with all product
    : liability litigation, it's not the odds, it's the risks. The risks of
    : having a phone blow up in your face greatly outweighs the odds of it
    : happening.

    Years ago there was an incident where a cell phone exploded in the hand of a
    Yacusa (sic) (Japanese mafia) Don.

    Initially it was though to be a hit but in the end it was the battery.




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    danny burstein
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    Re: 'Exploding' iPhones investigated

    In <h76hgg$bi3$1@news.eternal-september.org> "NotMe" <me@privacy.net> writes:

    >Years ago there was an incident where a cell phone exploded in the hand of a
    >Yacusa (sic) (Japanese mafia) Don.


    >Initially it was though to be a hit but in the end it was the battery.


    There was also the landline phone (well, it was on board
    a ship, but still...) that exploded, thus killing off
    the ship captain and letting Bruce Dern stay undercover.


    --
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    Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
    dannyb@panix.com
    [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

  7. #7
    Warren Oates
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    Re: 'Exploding' iPhones investigated

    In article <mocd95h8sbl1uaes2ipeokvjia0suiok98@4ax.com>,
    Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:

    > My guess(tm) is that Apple will pay off the alleged victims and
    > quietly switch battery vendors.


    <http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...personal_tech/
    article6736587.ece>

    (all of that should be pasted as one line if it doesn't click through
    neatly with your newsreader).
    --
    The stamp-peyin self-employed ur truly the lowest form ay vermin oan god's earth. -- Irvine Welsh

  8. #8
    Larry
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    Re: 'Exploding' iPhones investigated

    Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
    news:mocd95h8sbl1uaes2ipeokvjia0suiok98@4ax.com:

    > http://www.rockifone.com


    How many fart and clock apps are there on appstore now?



    --
    Larry


  9. #9
    Jeff Liebermann
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    Re: 'Exploding' iPhones investigated

    On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:30:57 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

    >Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
    >news:mocd95h8sbl1uaes2ipeokvjia0suiok98@4ax.com:
    >
    >> http://www.rockifone.com

    >
    >How many fart and clock apps are there on appstore now?


    Dunno. I don't have the iPhone app that tracks and counts such apps.

    Here's a clue what apps users really want and use on their iPhone.
    Note the top apps are not exactly productivity oriented:
    <http://www.apple.com/itunes/billion-app-countdown/>
    Also, another list of top paid/free apps:
    <http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/appstore/>
    There's no counting for taste in apps.

    I predicted a bit late:
    "European Regulators Examine Reports of Exploding iPhones"
    <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/19/technology/companies/19iphone.html>
    Two iPhones in France and an ipod in UK. EU style micromanagement
    regulations are sure to follow.

    Here's the Dutch version of the exploding iPhone:
    <http://www.geekologie.com/2009/08/iphone_allegedly_catches_fire.php>

    Nov 2008 rant on iPhone batteries by Fake Steve Jobs:
    <http://www.newsweek.com/id/170343>


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    Kurt
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    Re: 'Exploding' iPhones investigated

    In article <-6SdneKkWIcuLwvXnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
    News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

    > Char Jackson wrote:
    > > On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:47:06 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
    > >
    > >> 'Exploding' iPhones investigated

    > >
    > > I'm waiting to hear that "there's an app for that."
    > >

    >
    >
    > Or "It's a feature."


    Since none of the comical reply folks own an iPhone, I would like to
    note that I have tried to overheat my iPhone many times from my front
    pants pocket.

    As much much as I have wished for an explosion described by the French
    users, I sadly, still have experienced nothing.

    I will now be buying a Blackberry.

    --
    To reply by email, remove the word "space"

  11. #11
    nospam
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    Re: 'Exploding' iPhones investigated

    In article <labolide-EE3AFB.19192730082009@news.giganews.com>, Kurt
    <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:

    > Since none of the comical reply folks own an iPhone, I would like to
    > note that I have tried to overheat my iPhone many times from my front
    > pants pocket.
    >
    > As much much as I have wished for an explosion described by the French
    > users, I sadly, still have experienced nothing.


    try heating it by putting it in a microwave oven.

  12. #12
    News
    Guest

    Re: 'Exploding' iPhones investigated

    Kurt wrote:
    > In article <-6SdneKkWIcuLwvXnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
    > News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
    >
    >> Char Jackson wrote:
    >>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:47:06 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> 'Exploding' iPhones investigated
    >>> I'm waiting to hear that "there's an app for that."
    >>>

    >>
    >> Or "It's a feature."

    >
    > Since none of the comical reply folks own an iPhone, I would like to
    > note that I have tried to overheat my iPhone many times from my front
    > pants pocket.
    >
    > As much much as I have wished for an explosion described by the French
    > users, I sadly, still have experienced nothing.
    >
    > I will now be buying a Blackberry.
    >



    Or save some change and try the little blue pill...

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