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  1. #1
    Haley
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    Secure Tool to manage passwords

    Hey Guys,

    Found this VeriSign secured free tool called Billeo [ http://bit.ly/19alUz
    ] to manage passwords. It saves them all in one place and you can view
    or edit them whenever you want.

  2. #2
    David H. Lipman
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    Re: Secure Tool to manage passwords

    From: "Haley" <haley.lincoln@gmail.com>

    | Hey Guys,

    | Found this VeriSign secured free tool called Billeo [ http://bit.ly/
    | ] to manage passwords. It saves them all in one place and you can view
    | or edit them whenever you want.

    Hmmm...

    Posted by a Google Grouper using Gmail and using a shorthened and thus obfuscated address.

    More like a password harvester.

    --
    Dave
    http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



  3. #3
    Moe Trin
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    Re: Secure Tool to manage passwords

    On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.computer.security, in article
    <1a2dnWFnbJV5FtHXnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com>, David H. Lipman wrote:

    >From: "Haley" <haley.lincoln@gmail.com>


    but did you notice

    From: Kevin <kevinwells80@gmail.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.computer.security
    Subject: Tips to keep your PC from crashing
    Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:14:45 -0700 (PDT)
    Message-ID: <e2918f27-d2c0-43d7-a2e4-466b482f3ead@l5g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>
    NNTP-Posting-Host: 174.129.253.45

    and

    From: Kevin <kevinwells80@gmail.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.computer.security
    Subject: How can you keep your computer free from viruses
    Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:19:33 -0700 (PDT)
    Message-ID: <cc68f9ab-3d9f-47ad-b614-6d742424fba9@z14g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>
    NNTP-Posting-Host: 174.129.253.45

    and now

    From: Haley <haley.lincoln@gmail.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.computer.security
    Subject: Secure Tool to manage passwords
    Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 01:32:32 -0700 (PDT)
    Message-ID: <46744f61-57d6-46b7-859a-dd328f4634d7@r10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>
    NNTP-Posting-Host: 174.129.253.45

    and all three posts are flogging some masked web-site.

    [compton ~]$ host 174.129.253.45
    45.253.129.174.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer
    ec2-174-129-253-45.compute-1.amazonaws.com
    [compton ~]$ arinwhois 174.129.253.45
    [whois.arin.net]

    OrgName: Amazon.com, Inc.
    OrgID: AMAZO-4
    Address: Amazon Web Services, Elastic Compute Cloud, EC2
    Address: 1200 12th Avenue South
    City: Seattle

    [...]

    So it's just some l33t h4x0r-dude who discovered Spamazon.com, You
    may find it useful to block 174.129.0.0/16 and the rest of their blocks.

    [compton ~]$ grep EC2- address.blocks
    67.202.0.0 - 67.202.63.255 Amazon Web Services, Elastic Compute Cloud EC2-3
    72.44.32.0 - 72.44.63.255 Amazon Web Services, Elastic Compute Cloud, EC2-2
    75.101.128.0 - 75.101.255.255 Amazon Web Services, Elastic Compute Cloud, EC2-4
    174.129.0.0 - 174.129.255.255 Amazon Web Services, Elastic Compute Cloud, EC2-5
    [compton ~]$

    >Posted by a Google Grouper using Gmail and using a shorthened and thus
    >obfuscated address.


    I always have to laugh at the idiots who click on an obfuscated address
    thinking it will help them with security.

    >More like a password harvester.


    Naw... they wouldn't do _that_ little trick, would they?

    Old guy

  4. #4
    David H. Lipman
    Guest

    Re: Secure Tool to manage passwords

    From: "Moe Trin" <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld>

    | On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.computer.security, in article
    | <1a2dnWFnbJV5FtHXnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com>, David H. Lipman wrote:

    >>From: "Haley" <haley.lincoln@gmail.com>


    | but did you notice

    | From: Kevin <kevinwells80@gmail.com>
    | Newsgroups: alt.computer.security
    | Subject: Tips to keep your PC from crashing
    | Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:14:45 -0700 (PDT)
    | Message-ID: <e2918f27-d2c0-43d7-a2e4-466b482f3ead@l5g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>
    | NNTP-Posting-Host: 174.129.253.45

    | and

    | From: Kevin <kevinwells80@gmail.com>
    | Newsgroups: alt.computer.security
    | Subject: How can you keep your computer free from viruses
    | Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:19:33 -0700 (PDT)
    | Message-ID: <cc68f9ab-3d9f-47ad-b614-6d742424fba9@z14g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>
    | NNTP-Posting-Host: 174.129.253.45

    | and now

    | From: Haley <haley.lincoln@gmail.com>
    | Newsgroups: alt.computer.security
    | Subject: Secure Tool to manage passwords
    | Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 01:32:32 -0700 (PDT)
    | Message-ID: <46744f61-57d6-46b7-859a-dd328f4634d7@r10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>
    | NNTP-Posting-Host: 174.129.253.45

    | and all three posts are flogging some masked web-site.

    | [compton ~]$ host 174.129.253.45
    | 45.253.129.174.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer
    | ec2-174-129-253-45.compute-1.amazonaws.com
    | [compton ~]$ arinwhois 174.129.253.45
    | [whois.arin.net]

    | OrgName: Amazon.com, Inc.
    | OrgID: AMAZO-4
    | Address: Amazon Web Services, Elastic Compute Cloud, EC2
    | Address: 1200 12th Avenue South
    | City: Seattle

    | [...]

    | So it's just some l33t h4x0r-dude who discovered Spamazon.com, You
    | may find it useful to block 174.129.0.0/16 and the rest of their blocks.

    | [compton ~]$ grep EC2- address.blocks
    | 67.202.0.0 - 67.202.63.255 Amazon Web Services, Elastic Compute Cloud EC2-3
    | 72.44.32.0 - 72.44.63.255 Amazon Web Services, Elastic Compute Cloud, EC2-2
    | 75.101.128.0 - 75.101.255.255 Amazon Web Services, Elastic Compute Cloud, EC2-4
    | 174.129.0.0 - 174.129.255.255 Amazon Web Services, Elastic Compute Cloud, EC2-5
    | [compton ~]$

    >>Posted by a Google Grouper using Gmail and using a shorthened and thus
    >>obfuscated address.


    | I always have to laugh at the idiots who click on an obfuscated address
    | thinking it will help them with security.

    >>More like a password harvester.


    | Naw... they wouldn't do _that_ little trick, would they?

    | Old guy

    Moe:

    You are still better then Aceta Minophen and you remain at the top of the "game" :-)


    --
    Dave
    http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



  5. #5
    Frank Merlott
    Guest

    Re: Secure Tool to manage passwords

    Closed source and it uses AES128bit, it should be using AES256 which is
    what most applications for encryption use, better overshoot it.

    --
    Privacylover: http://www.privacylover.com



  6. #6
    Todd H.
    Guest

    Re: Secure Tool to manage passwords

    Frank Merlott <Frank@has.no.email> writes:

    > Closed source and it uses AES128bit, it should be using AES256 which
    > is what most applications for encryption use, better overshoot it.


    Honestly, properly implemented AES128 is plenty good enough for most
    applications.

    The most damning thing is the closed source nature (i.e. no way to
    verify the "properly implemented" piece) and there are many FOS
    alternatives. Not to mention the "spamming bitches" angle as a reason
    to avoid.

    --
    Todd H.
    http://www.toddh.net/

  7. #7
    Frank Merlott
    Guest

    Re: Secure Tool to manage passwords

    Todd H. formulated the question :
    > Frank Merlott <Frank@has.no.email> writes:
    >
    >> Closed source and it uses AES128bit, it should be using AES256 which
    >> is what most applications for encryption use, better overshoot it.

    >
    > Honestly, properly implemented AES128 is plenty good enough for most
    > applications.
    >
    > The most damning thing is the closed source nature (i.e. no way to
    > verify the "properly implemented" piece) and there are many FOS
    > alternatives. Not to mention the "spamming bitches" angle as a reason
    > to avoid.


    OK, I got it wrong on this one, actually I just read about a new crypto
    attack on AES256, and funny enough the researchers concluded that
    AES128 seems to be safer than AES256.

    They themselves are surprised of the result as AES256 was meant
    increase security.

    ---------

    Alex Biryukov and Dmitry Khovratovich from University of Luxembourg
    published a paper titled "Related-key Cryptanalysis of the Full AES-192
    and AES-256".
    In this paper we present two related-key attacks on the full AES. For
    AES-256 we show the first key recovery attack that works for all the
    keys and has complexity 2119, while the recent attack by
    Biryukov-Khovratovich-Nikolic works for a weak key class and has higher
    complexity. The second attack is the first cryptanalysis of the full
    AES-192. Both our attacks are boomerang attacks, which are based on the
    recent idea of finding local collisions in block ciphers and enhanced
    with the boomerang switching techniques to gain free rounds in the
    middle.

    http://cryptolux.uni.lu/mediawiki/up...es-192-256.pdf

    Source:
    http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=7723


    --
    Privacylover: http://www.privacylover.com



  8. #8
    Leonard Agoado
    Guest

    Re: Secure Tool to manage passwords


    "Haley" <haley.lincoln@gmail.com> wrote

    > Found this VeriSign secured free tool called Billeo



    Can we cut out the middle-man and just send you our passwords?

    Regards,

    Len Agoado
    agoado@msn.com



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