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    Thumbs up House set to pass credit bill after Senate OK

    Swift passage expected and then it goes to President Obama

    WASHINGTON - The credit card companies seem to have few friends on Capitol Hill these days, with even the most business-minded lawmakers siding with consumers in speaking out against steep rate hikes and fees.

    The House was expected to pass, possibly as early as Wednesday, a bill that would enact sweeping new restrictions on the industry, including a requirement that customers penalized by higher interest rates because they missed a payment are given a chance to reclaim their lower rate after six months.

    The Senate passed the bill Tuesday, 90-5.

    "Card issuers raise rates for unclear reasons, use billing methods that consumers do not understand, and assign fees and charges without warning," said Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama, the top Republican on the Senate Banking Committee.

    President Barack Obama is expected to sign the bill into law. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner on Tuesday said the bill would "create a more fair, transparent and simple consumer credit market."

    Of the five senators sympathetic to card lenders, two were from South Dakota, where thousands of jobs depend on the industry. Republican Sen. John Thune estimated the bill would cost as many as 5,000 jobs in his home state.

    Sen. Tim Johnson, also from South Dakota and the only Democrat to oppose the bill, agreed it could be devastating.

    "This is a time when millions of consumers are already facing lower credit limits and higher interest rates on their credit cards because of decreasing credit availability and continued economic instability," he said.

    Also opposing the bill were GOP Sens. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, Robert Bennett of Utah and Jon Kyl of Arizona.

    But their voices were drowned out by lawmakers who said their offices had received dozens of complaints from voters.

    "We said that big banks can no longer take advantage of hardworking Americans," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said of the Senate vote.

    Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd, D-Dem., on Wednesday brushed aside talk that credit will be more scarce if Congress approves the bill.

    Great day for consumers
    Calling Tuesday's Senate vote "a great day for consumers," Dodd also said people still must handle their money responsibly and pay their bills on time. But he also said the measure was "a long time coming, a long time overdue."

    Dodd said any assertion that credit will be hard to get is absurd, "a little like Chicken Little."

    The Pew Health Group estimates that 82 percent of cards available to consumers include the stipulation that the cardholder's rate can increase to any amount indefinitely if the lender determines the person is too much of a credit risk. Consumer advocates say it is these types of practices that can bury consumers in debt if they make one mistake.

    Under the new bill, a customer would have to be more than 60 days behind on a payment before seeing a rate increase on an existing balance. Even then, the lender would be required to restore the previous, lower rate after six months if the cardholder pays the minimum balance on time.

    Consumers also would have to receive 45 days' notice and an explanation before their interest rate was increased.

    Some of these changes, including the 45-day notice requirement, are already on track to take effect in July 2010 under new rules being imposed by the Federal Reserve. But the legislation would put these changes into law and go further in restricting the types of bank fees and who could get a card.

    For example, the Senate bill requires those under 21 who seek a credit card to prove first that they can repay the money or that a parent or guardian is willing to pay off their debt if they default.
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    A good thing I guess, to help those who don't do their homework first and go crazy and sign up with any credit card offer they get in the mail.

    Similar to mortgages.....simply take a few seconds and select the good ones, and you won't get in trouble. Stick with local banks, credit unions if you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YeOldeStonecat View Post
    A good thing I guess, to help those who don't do their homework first and go crazy and sign up with any credit card offer they get in the mail.
    That's certainly one way to look at it. Of course the bill largely addresses the abuse CC companies put on consumers for being as much as 1 day late. Things happen and a person getting nailed with more debt because of 1 mistake is corrupt imo.

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    Its only helping those that neglect the rules they agreed upon when they got the card.. like being late. It does NOTHING to reward those that pay on time, keep very low balances or use them regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sava700 View Post
    Its only helping those that neglect the rules they agreed upon when they got the card.. like being late. It does NOTHING to reward those that pay on time, keep very low balances or use them regularly.
    Im confused why do you reply when you have no idea?
    I always pay my CC bills on time and make 6 figures but I still get lowered limits and they keep trying to raise my rates. Why? And when you call and ask for a lower rate and finally get thru to someone I get Oh no we don't do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbow View Post
    Im confused why do you reply when you have no idea?
    I always pay my CC bills on time and make 6 figures but I still get lowered limits and they keep trying to raise my rates. Why? And when you call and ask for a lower rate and finally get thru to someone I get Oh no we don't do that.
    I do have a really good idea.. I've talked to several people I know and seen their bills that always pay on time and yet their rates were jacked way high! Its not going to help those that play by the rules its only helping those that try to screw the system or can't play by the rules and shouldn't have gotten the cards to begin with.

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    A hospital could be a very dangerous place for even valid permit holders to carry. Especially if they need to give it to someone else for a test like an MRI, as well as if they get bad news and become emotionally unstable.

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    We've already had this debate, recently, nothing has changed on either side, the end.


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