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  1. #1
    ~BD~
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    Annexcafe User2User newsgroup

    "Grybeard" <grybeard76@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:jde5l0GTGHA.4276@GAMERA.annex.com...

    "Reckon he finally figured it out?"

    ******

    That is what 'Grybeard' posted after I had been bannished from Annexcafe.

    *Is* www.Annexcafe.com a safe place for folk to go to get help with their
    computer problems?

    --
    Dave



  2. #2
    Scarlett
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup

    ~BD~ wrote:
    > "Grybeard" <grybeard76@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:jde5l0GTGHA.4276@GAMERA.annex.com...
    >
    > "Reckon he finally figured it out?"
    >
    > ******
    >
    > That is what 'Grybeard' posted after I had been bannished from
    > Annexcafe.
    > *Is* www.Annexcafe.com a safe place for folk to go to get help with
    > their computer problems?


    Yes it is...safe from k00ks like you.



  3. #3
    Kelb tal-Fenek
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup

    Scarlett wrote:
    > ~BD~ wrote:
    >> "Grybeard" <grybeard76@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:jde5l0GTGHA.4276@GAMERA.annex.com...
    >>
    >> "Reckon he finally figured it out?"
    >>
    >> ******
    >>
    >> That is what 'Grybeard' posted after I had been bannished from
    >> Annexcafe.
    >> *Is* www <DOT> Annexcafe <DOT> com a safe place for folk to go
    >> to get help with their computer problems?

    >
    > Yes it is...safe from k00ks like you.


    This Annexcafe; a private server I assume? Only one access point?
    For me, this spells danger of the worst kind. And how are these
    kooks kept away and most importantly; who decides what a kook is?

    Since you are posting to [alt.computer.security] and
    [alt.usenet.kooks], *they* might suspect you are trying to conceal
    something from *them* because that security newsgroup is full of
    posts about how to post anonymously. What are you trying to hide?
    Are you doing something illegal? And you must be a kook too; why
    are you posting in a newsgroup that has kook in its name? You
    should be bannished too! Or would you prefer the whip? And your
    name, Scarlett; a female sorcerer? Enchantress? Don't be coming
    around here casting your spells. Witch!!!!!!!!!!!1

    Moral of the story: Usenet good. Private servers bad.

    --
    WITCH, n.
    1: Any ugly and repulsive old woman, in a
    wicked league with the devil.
    2: A beautiful and attractive young woman,
    in wickedness a league beyond the devil.


  4. #4
    Scarlett
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup

    Kelb tal-Fenek wrote:
    > Scarlett wrote:
    >> ~BD~ wrote:
    >>> "Grybeard" <grybeard76@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:jde5l0GTGHA.4276@GAMERA.annex.com...
    >>>
    >>> "Reckon he finally figured it out?"
    >>>
    >>> ******
    >>>
    >>> That is what 'Grybeard' posted after I had been bannished from
    >>> Annexcafe.
    >>> *Is* www <DOT> Annexcafe <DOT> com a safe place for folk to go
    >>> to get help with their computer problems?

    >>
    >> Yes it is...safe from k00ks like you.

    >
    > This Annexcafe; a private server I assume? Only one access point?
    > For me, this spells danger of the worst kind. And how are these
    > kooks kept away and most importantly; who decides what a kook is?
    >
    > Since you are posting to [alt.computer.security] and
    > [alt.usenet.kooks], *they* might suspect you are trying to conceal
    > something from *them* because that security newsgroup is full of
    > posts about how to post anonymously. What are you trying to hide?
    > Are you doing something illegal? And you must be a kook too; why
    > are you posting in a newsgroup that has kook in its name? You
    > should be bannished too! Or would you prefer the whip? And your
    > name, Scarlett; a female sorcerer? Enchantress? Don't be coming
    > around here casting your spells. Witch!!!!!!!!!!!1
    >
    > Moral of the story: Usenet good. Private servers bad.


    I am not ugly!



  5. #5
    Kelb tal-Fenek
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup

    Scarlett wrote:
    > Kelb tal-Fenek wrote:
    >> Scarlett wrote:
    >>> ~BD~ wrote:
    >>>> "Grybeard" <grybeard76@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:jde5l0GTGHA.4276@GAMERA.annex.com...
    >>>>
    >>>> "Reckon he finally figured it out?"
    >>>>
    >>>> ******
    >>>>
    >>>> That is what 'Grybeard' posted after I had been bannished from
    >>>> Annexcafe.
    >>>> *Is* www <DOT> Annexcafe <DOT> com a safe place for folk to go
    >>>> to get help with their computer problems?
    >>>
    >>> Yes it is...safe from k00ks like you.

    >>
    >> This Annexcafe; a private server I assume? Only one access point?
    >> For me, this spells danger of the worst kind. And how are these
    >> kooks kept away and most importantly; who decides what a kook is?
    >>
    >> Since you are posting to [alt.computer.security] and
    >> [alt.usenet.kooks], *they* might suspect you are trying to conceal
    >> something from *them* because that security newsgroup is full of
    >> posts about how to post anonymously. What are you trying to hide?
    >> Are you doing something illegal? And you must be a kook too; why
    >> are you posting in a newsgroup that has kook in its name? You
    >> should be bannished too! Or would you prefer the whip? And your
    >> name, Scarlett; a female sorcerer? Enchantress? Don't be coming
    >> around here casting your spells. Witch!!!!!!!!!!!1
    >>
    >> Moral of the story: Usenet good. Private servers bad.

    >
    > I am not ugly!


    I know. Oh baby! Sizzle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


  6. #6
    ~BD~
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup


    "Kelb tal-Fenek" <spot@tioat.net> wrote in message
    news:gtt55a$1nr$1@tioat.net...
    >
    > This Annexcafe; a private server I assume?


    Correct.

    > Only one access point?


    As far as I am aware www.annexcafe.com

    > For me, this spells danger of the worst kind.


    How would good and honest folk ever know about the existence of the
    facilities available - all free, too?

    > Moral of the story: Usenet good. Private servers bad.


    I think you are right! The back-up server for Annexcafe may be found on
    another private server, here:- www.dogagent.com
    It certainly look 'different' to ordinary web sites - and only works with
    Internet Explorer! Take a peek (no pun intended!)

    --
    Dave



  7. #7
    Kelb tal-Fenek
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup

    ~BD~ wrote:
    > Kelb tal-Fenek wrote:
    >>
    >> This Annexcafe; a private server I assume?

    >
    > Correct.


    Why are you talking about a private news server on usenet?

    >> Only one access point?

    >
    > As far as I am aware www dot <snip>
    >
    >> For me, this spells danger of the worst kind.

    >
    > How would good and honest folk ever know about the existence of the
    > facilities available - all free, too?


    Why do they ban good and honest folk like you from that site?

    >> Moral of the story: Usenet good. Private servers bad.

    >
    > I think you are right! The back-up server for Annexcafe may be found on
    > another private server, here:- www dot <snip>
    > It certainly look 'different' to ordinary web sites - and only works with
    > Internet Explorer! Take a peek (no pun intended!)


    Internet Explorer? No ****ing way! Won't run on linux and I wouldn't
    use that piece of **** anyway.


  8. #8
    ~BD~
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup


    "Kelb tal-Fenek" <spot@tioat.net> wrote in message
    news:gu6e7i$uv4$2@tioat.net...

    >> This Annexcafe; a private server I assume?
    >>
    >> Correct.

    >
    > Why are you talking about a private news server on usenet?


    Why? In the vague hope that someone, somewhere, who has an in-depth
    knowledge of 'computing' and 'malware', will go there and explore in depth.

    My perception is that there are 'bad guys' operating there, with or without
    the knowledge of the server owner. In particular, I am confident that folk
    have posted links in the User2User groups (there is a US group and a UK
    group) which led to URL's hosting malware. Clicking on links on U2U (before
    I knew any better!) took me to all kinds of bogus sites. The 'Sysop' of the
    UK U2U site (Ann) sent me (at my request) a jpg screenshot of her PC (she
    was having malware problems and I was tryin to help her). I opened it with
    'notepad' and found about 12 live links which took me to websites typical of
    Spam selling (Viagra etc). Not possible? Well - it happened!


    > Why do they ban good and honest folk like you from that site?


    They never told me. It happened after I confirmed that I am now absolutely
    certain that I'm being tasked to pursue matters relentlessly until good
    defeats evil here on the web. It has been extremely lonely at times and I'd
    welcome help from anyone who is willing and able to help me achieve His aim.

    Whilst I knew little about 'computing' per se 3 years ago - I have learnt
    much about many things, but still know so little. Interestingly, though,
    whenever I'm about to give up, a little prayer seems to prompt another
    thought, opening up yet another route to follow. It really does work just
    that way!

    >>The back-up server for Annexcafe may be found on another private server,
    >>here in the UK.

    > Internet Explorer? No f***ing way! Won't run on linux and I wouldn't
    > use that piece of sh*t anyway.


    I understand your sentiments, although I believe IE8 is much
    improved.<smile>

    Using linux will not stop you visiting www.dogagent.com in the first
    instance to explore. Someone reading here may have access to IE as well as
    linux or OSX and be willing to take a looksee and report what they find.

    HTH

    --
    Dave



  9. #9
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup

    ~BD~ wrote:

    > Using linux will not stop you visiting www.dogagent.com in the first
    > instance to explore. Someone reading here may have access to IE as
    > well as linux or OSX and be willing to take a looksee and report what
    > they find.


    Using Linux with Firefox and Opera, found:
    one of world's worst web sites. :-/

    Once past the splash page to:
    http://www.dogagent.com/nindex.html
    I found a page with 991 HTML errors. Not a record, though. And all the
    VBScript has no effect.

    Note that the splash page has some very annoying JavaScript code that
    wants to take over my browser, by using new windows with no toolbars or
    menu bars:

    function openWIN()
    {window.open("nindex.html","_blank","status=no,toolbar=no,menubar=no");

    Site Rating: 0 | | | | 5 | | | | 10
    ^
    ^
    --
    -bts
    -Friends don't let friends drive Windows

  10. #10
    Kelb tal-Fenek
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup

    Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    > ~BD~ wrote:
    >
    >> Using linux will not stop you visiting www.dogagent.com in the first
    >> instance to explore. Someone reading here may have access to IE as
    >> well as linux or OSX and be willing to take a looksee and report what
    >> they find.

    >
    > Using Linux with Firefox and Opera, found:
    > one of world's worst web sites. :-/
    >
    > Once past the splash page to:
    > http://www.dogagent.com/nindex.html
    > I found a page with 991 HTML errors. Not a record, though. And all the
    > VBScript has no effect.
    >
    > Note that the splash page has some very annoying JavaScript code that
    > wants to take over my browser, by using new windows with no toolbars or
    > menu bars:
    >
    > function openWIN()
    > {window.open("nindex.html","_blank","status=no,toolbar=no,menubar=no");
    >
    > Site Rating: 0 | | | | 5 | | | | 10
    > ^
    > ^


    Thanks for the info. That is *not* the kind of site I would want to
    visit.


  11. #11
    Kelb tal-Fenek
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup

    ~BD~ wrote:
    >
    > "Kelb tal-Fenek" <spot@tioat.net> wrote in message
    > news:gu6e7i$uv4$2@tioat.net...
    >
    >>> This Annexcafe; a private server I assume?
    >>>
    >>> Correct.

    >>
    >> Why are you talking about a private news server on usenet?

    >
    > Why? In the vague hope that someone, somewhere, who has an in-depth
    > knowledge of 'computing' and 'malware', will go there and explore in depth.
    >
    > My perception is that there are 'bad guys' operating there, with or without
    > the knowledge of the server owner. In particular, I am confident that folk
    > have posted links in the User2User groups (there is a US group and a UK
    > group) which led to URL's hosting malware. Clicking on links on U2U (before
    > I knew any better!) took me to all kinds of bogus sites. The 'Sysop' of the
    > UK U2U site (Ann) sent me (at my request) a jpg screenshot of her PC (she
    > was having malware problems and I was tryin to help her). I opened it with
    > 'notepad' and found about 12 live links which took me to websites typical of
    > Spam selling (Viagra etc). Not possible? Well - it happened!


    This UK U2U is part of Annexcafe? And explain how you found links
    inside a jpg file with notepage.

    >> Why do they ban good and honest folk like you from that site?

    >
    > They never told me. It happened after I confirmed that I am now absolutely
    > certain that I'm being tasked to pursue matters relentlessly until good
    > defeats evil here on the web. It has been extremely lonely at times and I'd
    > welcome help from anyone who is willing and able to help me achieve His aim.


    Tasked? I'm having some difficulty trying to understand what you are
    talking about. Who is giving you this task to defeat evil on the web
    and what does this have to do with usenet?

    > Whilst I knew little about 'computing' per se 3 years ago - I have learnt
    > much about many things, but still know so little. Interestingly, though,
    > whenever I'm about to give up, a little prayer seems to prompt another
    > thought, opening up yet another route to follow. It really does work just
    > that way!
    >
    >>>The back-up server for Annexcafe may be found on another private server,
    >>>here in the UK.

    >> Internet Explorer? No f***ing way! Won't run on linux and I wouldn't
    >> use that piece of sh*t anyway.

    >
    > I understand your sentiments, although I believe IE8 is much
    > improved.<smile>
    >
    > Using linux will not stop you visiting www <dot> <snip> in the first
    > instance to explore. Someone reading here may have access to IE as well as
    > linux or OSX and be willing to take a looksee and report what they find.


    But why should I want to explore that site? Are there links to bogus
    sites there?


  12. #12
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup

    Kelb tal-Fenek wrote:

    > Thanks for the info. That is *not* the kind of site I would want to
    > visit.


    While the site is quite annoying, I don't see anything actually
    *malicious* about it. In some of the IE-only VBScript, the author
    presents a mess of clickable links to a bunch of ActiveX components, but
    they are all from the Microsoft activex.microsoft.com site. Not likely
    malware.

    The author does demonstrate his complete and total lack of clue, though.

    --
    -bts
    -Friends don't let friends drive Windows

  13. #13
    ~BD~
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup


    "Kelb tal-Fenek" <spot@tioat.net> wrote in message
    news:gu9els$17b$1@tioat.net...
    > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    >> ~BD~ wrote:
    >>
    >>> Using linux will not stop you visiting www.dogagent.com in the first
    >>> instance to explore. Someone reading here may have access to IE as
    >>> well as linux or OSX and be willing to take a looksee and report what
    >>> they find.

    >>
    >> Using Linux with Firefox and Opera, found:
    >> one of world's worst web sites. :-/
    >>
    >> Once past the splash page to:
    >> http://www.dogagent.com/nindex.html
    >> I found a page with 991 HTML errors. Not a record, though. And all the
    >> VBScript has no effect.
    >>
    >> Note that the splash page has some very annoying JavaScript code that
    >> wants to take over my browser, by using new windows with no toolbars or
    >> menu bars:
    >>
    >> function openWIN()
    >> {window.open("nindex.html","_blank","status=no,toolbar=no,menubar=no");
    >>
    >> Site Rating: 0 | | | | 5 | | | | 10
    >> ^
    >> ^

    >
    > Thanks for the info. That is *not* the kind of site I would want to
    > visit.
    >


    But it's for dog lovers!

    I looked here http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/pharaohhound.htm

    Surely with a user-name like yours, there is a kind of link?!!!

    --
    Dave



  14. #14
    ~BD~
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup


    "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote in message
    news:gu9dp9$4c3$1@news.motzarella.org...
    > ~BD~ wrote:
    >
    >> Using linux will not stop you visiting www.dogagent.com in the first
    >> instance to explore. Someone reading here may have access to IE as
    >> well as linux or OSX and be willing to take a looksee and report what
    >> they find.

    >
    > Using Linux with Firefox and Opera, found:
    > one of world's worst web sites. :-/
    >
    > Once past the splash page to:
    > http://www.dogagent.com/nindex.html
    > I found a page with 991 HTML errors. Not a record, though. And all the
    > VBScript has no effect.
    >
    > Note that the splash page has some very annoying JavaScript code that
    > wants to take over my browser, by using new windows with no toolbars or
    > menu bars:
    >
    > function openWIN()
    > {window.open("nindex.html","_blank","status=no,toolbar=no,menubar=no");
    >
    > Site Rating: 0 | | | | 5 | | | | 10
    > ^
    > ^
    > --
    > -bts
    > -Friends don't let friends drive Windows


    Thanks for taking a look, BTS

    It seems you were not too impressed! Why then, I wonder, would Mr Gregory
    Gooden, the owner of www.annex.com , select the owner of Dogagent (a certain
    Dave Higham - who recently responded to me in 'microsoft.public.test here' -
    I'll copy his Header from that post at the end of this message) to act as
    his back-up facility in case of an Annex server failure?

    Something does not ring true - of that I am quite certain!

    ***************

    From: "Dave H" <spambox8@pepedog.com>
    References: <6F22962C-C429-4EFC-9EAE-3752BCB8DEE2@microsoft.com>
    <0423819C-7561-4621-911D-18326EBAD4FA@microsoft.com>
    <OMdRFAizJHA.140@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
    <7FA72FD5-4A8C-4577-AF57-2BB34AFDE9A1@microsoft.com>
    In-Reply-To: <7FA72FD5-4A8C-4577-AF57-2BB34AFDE9A1@microsoft.com>
    Subject: Re: Anyone want to respond to test?
    Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 12:02:27 +0100
    Lines: 9
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain;
    format=flowed;
    charset="UTF-8";
    reply-type=original
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    X-Priority: 3
    X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000
    X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049
    Message-ID: <#wE9Qy8zJHA.5728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
    Newsgroups: microsoft.public.test.here
    NNTP-Posting-Host: dogagent.com 87.194.121.94
    Path:
    news.motzarella.org!feeder.motzarella.org!motzarella.org!feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.pim p.lart.info!newsfeed.freenet.de!feeder.news-service.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
    Xref: news.motzarella.org microsoft.public.test.here:5069

    "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:7FA72FD5-4A8C-4577-AF57-2BB34AFDE9A1@microsoft.com...
    > So - Why doesn't it show in Outlook Express 6 newsgroup -
    > msnews.microsoft.com 'microsoft.public.test.here' group?
    >
    > I'm always curious. Can anyone advise? Thanks.


    Because you suck

    *********

    I cannot help but find it intriguing that he should be in any way interested
    in my search for bad guys.

    He certainly doesn't seem to like me!

    --
    Dave




  15. #15
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup

    In alt.computer.security, ~BD~ wrote:

    > "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
    >> ~BD~ wrote:
    >>> Using linux will not stop you visiting www.dogagent.com

    >>
    >> Site Rating: 0 | | | | 5 | | | | 10
    >> ^

    >
    > Thanks for taking a look, BTS
    >
    > It seems you were not too impressed! Why then, I wonder, would Mr
    > Gregory Gooden, the owner of www.annex.com , select the owner of
    > Dogagent (a certain Dave Higham - who recently responded to me in
    > 'microsoft.public.test here' - I'll copy his Header from that post at
    > the end of this message) to act as his back-up facility in case of an
    > Annex server failure?


    Examining the annex.com web site might indicate that its owner is also
    lacking clues about how to write a site that gets much above that "0"
    rating. It is, first thing I notice, very slow to respond (even on my
    high-speed cable). Superfluous JavaScript. Last millennium style code.

    The web hosting plans are about twice as expensive as the norm - for a
    good deal less service than the norm. For example, my web site host's
    Basic plan offers 40 times the monthly transfer rate and 15 times the
    storage, for half the price of annex.com's Basic plan. :-/

    > Something does not ring true - of that I am quite certain!


    Well, maybe Mr Higham has some knowledge of how web servers operate.
    This is, of course, a WAG.

    --
    -bts
    -Friends don't let friends drive Windows

  16. #16
    ~BD~
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup


    "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote in message
    news:gu9loi$93b$1@news.motzarella.org...
    > In alt.computer.security, ~BD~ wrote:
    >
    >> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
    >>> ~BD~ wrote:
    >>>> Using linux will not stop you visiting www.dogagent.com
    >>>
    >>> Site Rating: 0 | | | | 5 | | | | 10
    >>> ^

    >>
    >> Thanks for taking a look, BTS
    >>
    >> It seems you were not too impressed! Why then, I wonder, would Mr
    >> Gregory Gooden, the owner of www.annex.com , select the owner of
    >> Dogagent (a certain Dave Higham - who recently responded to me in
    >> 'microsoft.public.test here' - I'll copy his Header from that post at
    >> the end of this message) to act as his back-up facility in case of an
    >> Annex server failure?

    >
    > Examining the annex.com web site might indicate that its owner is also
    > lacking clues about how to write a site that gets much above that "0"
    > rating. It is, first thing I notice, very slow to respond (even on my
    > high-speed cable). Superfluous JavaScript. Last millennium style code.
    >
    > The web hosting plans are about twice as expensive as the norm - for a
    > good deal less service than the norm. For example, my web site host's
    > Basic plan offers 40 times the monthly transfer rate and 15 times the
    > storage, for half the price of annex.com's Basic plan. :-/
    >
    >> Something does not ring true - of that I am quite certain!

    >
    > Well, maybe Mr Higham has some knowledge of how web servers operate.
    > This is, of course, a WAG.
    >
    > --
    > -bts
    > -Friends don't let friends drive Windows


    WAG? Google gives me 16,300,000 results! Please clarify. TIA

    FYI - This URL gives some extra background
    http://www.pqlr.org/bbs/viewtopic.ph...3&p=8365#p8365

    Some 'interpretation' is required I'm afraid. Btw, Annexcafe has over 300
    newsgroups, all funded by a business losing money and run by a recovering
    alchoholic! Hmmm!

    ******

    Annexcafe is at risk, and it is up to us to pitch in and help get us past a
    rocky period. I had hoped to be able to handle the situation without
    worrying everyone, but with Gregory having to be away for so long to be with
    his very ill mother and her deteriorating condition, time has begun to run
    out, and I need as much help as I can get.

    The situation is this. Gregory's paying business, Annex Technologies, Inc,
    which supports Annexcafe is losing money, approximately $2,000 a month.
    Obviously, Gregory can't continue to cover this loss. Nor could we at the
    Cafe. Gregory is working to cut back on expenses, and trying desperately for
    us not to be one of his cutbacks. The real solution is for him to be able to
    increase his customer base for Annex, and that is where we come in. WE CAN
    HELP. We have an incredible pool of talent here at Annexcafe. What I am
    hoping we can do is work together to design a blockbuster ad campaign for
    Annex Technologies that will boost them into the black, let us all rest more
    comfortably and give Gregory the time he needs to be with his mother.
    Obviously, we will not spam, but I'm asking we all pool resources in support
    of this project, not just to save ourselves, but to thank Gregory and show
    him how appreciative we are of his years of generosity toward us. Part of
    the delay was that with Gregory gone mid-effort, I didn't completely
    understand what Annex Tech offered that others didn't offer for less money,
    but Gregory and I had a long discussion last Thursday, and he really does
    have something unique to offer. If we work as a team, I think we can help
    him sell it. Toward that goal, I am opening the newsgroup Annexcafe.Team.
    The purpose of this group will be to brainstorm, to share advertising ideas,
    to post graphics and web ads, whatever YOU think will help promote Annex. We
    can then take these ads and plans to our individual communities, both
    virtual and IRL and see what we can do.

    Annex Technologies is in the webhosting business. They're shifting to
    hosting with Control Panel, for plans starting at $9.95 a month. Clients can
    pay on a month-to-month basis (or for 6 months or a year at a discount), and
    no contracts are required, so if a client wants to try out the service,
    they're only committed for one month. One of the company's main selling
    points is service. They are large enough to have several servers, thus the
    crash of one server does not mean the client's resources go offline, but not
    so large that customer service is outsourced or designated to call centers.
    The support staff for Annex.com knows the individual clients and possesses a
    history of any problems the client has been having, and issues are often
    answered by Gregory himself.

    Annex is particularly good for people or small businesses that want webpages
    that load quickly without ads, but have little experience working with html
    or are not wonderful with computers, particularly if they want webpages with
    complicated functions, such as separate message boards, mailboxes (with spam
    and antiviral filters), blogs, webnews, and photo galleries. Accessing these
    features is quite easy, but critically, Annex staff will quite literally
    guide a client, step by step, through the creation of anything that client
    might be finding difficulty with. One feature I found really cool was the
    ability for Annex to have an online store created for a client, up and
    running, within a week's time.

    Oh, one other cool feature is the "Rescue Service" (think firetrucks and
    ambulances). Since most webhosting services come down to a guy with a
    server, Annex offers a service where, if you have notification that your
    current webhost is about to be shut down, taking your site with it, Gregory
    will download all the information from your site, and upload it to the Annex
    server.

    The current site that best represents them is http://*****.com. If there are
    any links there to development services, those are being phased out. He's
    also planning to make some other updates to the website.

    Gregory's got an admitted weakness in the advertising department (though we
    adore him!). Considering I'm a total tech dummy, I think it'd be great to
    appeal to people who are quite confused by the whole business of setting up
    a webpage, and particularly selling stuff online. I have some rudimentary
    html skills, but things like setting up customized photo galleries, message
    boards, or certainly secure webpages for online sales is far beyond my
    capabilities, and I'm hoping to reach my fellow dum dums. Even the term "web
    hosting" for many people I've talked to, including those who'd like to set
    up websites with galleries of their vacations and grandchildren and such but
    don't know how to go about doing it, is a bit too technical. While I'd love
    contributions of art/ads, etc, in the same sense we have for our honored
    artists but with a product oriented direction, what I want to *decidedly*
    avoid, as I mentioned above, is creating spam. We're rabid about anti-spam
    here at the Cafe, and it certainly wouldn't be fair, even with good intent,
    to inflict on other servers what we don't allow ourselves.

    So you have the description, you have the board, and naturally, we
    appreciate any and all help!

    Ishie (Aka ........ shewhocannotbenamed)

    Also: The addy for contributions is:
    Annex Technologies
    15315 Magnolia
    Suite 203
    *somewhereinCA*, CA 91403
    Alternately, people can go to the main webpage
    http://www.*thatLIBERALgroup*.com/main.cfm
    and scroll down to the "Support Annex"
    Paypal Donate button in the lower right hand corner.



  17. #17
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup

    In alt.computer.security, ~BD~ wrote:

    > "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
    >> This is, of course, a WAG.

    >
    > WAG? Google gives me 16,300,000 results! Please clarify. TIA


    Heehee. You can find most 'acronyms' at this site, including:
    http://www.acronymfinder.com/WAG.html

    It's not first on the list... (hint: guess)
    See also: SWAG

    > FYI - This URL gives some extra background
    > http://www.pqlr.org/bbs/viewtopic.ph...3&p=8365#p8365


    ...a thread begun in August 2006. <g>

    > Some 'interpretation' is required I'm afraid. Btw, Annexcafe has over 300
    > newsgroups, all funded by a business losing money and run by a recovering
    > alchoholic! Hmmm!


    Well, I guest that answers two questions. One: why the hosting is
    expensive, and Two: why the annex.com code is so old-style.

    --
    -bts
    -Friends don't let friends drive Windows

  18. #18
    G. Morgan
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup

    ~BD~ wrote:

    >Some 'interpretation' is required I'm afraid. Btw, Annexcafe has over 300
    >newsgroups, all funded by a business losing money and run by a recovering
    >alchoholic! Hmmm!



    What's your point? Is he 'evil' because he's a recovering alcoholic?

    Why are you "investigating" these people?

    What do you mean by getting rid of "evil" on the "web"?



  19. #19
    ~BD~
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup

    Kelb tal-Fenek wrote:
    > ~BD~ wrote:
    >> "Kelb tal-Fenek" <spot@tioat.net> wrote in message
    >> news:gu6e7i$uv4$2@tioat.net...
    >>
    >>>> This Annexcafe; a private server I assume?
    >>>>
    >>>> Correct.
    >>> Why are you talking about a private news server on usenet?

    >> Why? In the vague hope that someone, somewhere, who has an in-depth
    >> knowledge of 'computing' and 'malware', will go there and explore in depth.
    >>
    >> My perception is that there are 'bad guys' operating there, with or without
    >> the knowledge of the server owner. In particular, I am confident that folk
    >> have posted links in the User2User groups (there is a US group and a UK
    >> group) which led to URL's hosting malware. Clicking on links on U2U (before
    >> I knew any better!) took me to all kinds of bogus sites. The 'Sysop' of the
    >> UK U2U site (Ann) sent me (at my request) a jpg screenshot of her PC (she
    >> was having malware problems and I was tryin to help her). I opened it with
    >> 'notepad' and found about 12 live links which took me to websites typical of
    >> Spam selling (Viagra etc). Not possible? Well - it happened!

    >
    > This UK U2U is part of Annexcafe? And explain how you found links
    > inside a jpg file with notepage.



    It is! See here:-
    http://www.annexcafe.com/community/i...20Tech%20Talk/

    With regard to the 'screenshot', it was sent as an attachment to an
    email message. I saved it to my machine (probably to my desktop). I then
    right-clicked the file and selected to 'Open with' and specified
    'Notepad' (the basic Windows programme - not "notepage"!)

    >
    >>> Why do they ban good and honest folk like you from that site?

    >> They never told me. It happened after I confirmed that I am now absolutely
    >> certain that I'm being tasked to pursue matters relentlessly until good
    >> defeats evil here on the web. It has been extremely lonely at times and I'd
    >> welcome help from anyone who is willing and able to help me achieve His aim.

    >
    > Tasked? I'm having some difficulty trying to understand what you are
    > talking about. Who is giving you this task to defeat evil on the web
    > and what does this have to do with usenet?



    Perhaps you should explore here:- http://uk.alpha.org/

    I attended this course three years ago - very thought-provoking it was
    too! Somewhere along the line I made a connection between bad guys
    stealing money 'on-line' and then using same to train/fund terrorists
    who wish to kill us


    >> Whilst I knew little about 'computing' per se 3 years ago - I have learnt
    >> much about many things, but still know so little. Interestingly, though,
    >> whenever I'm about to give up, a little prayer seems to prompt another
    >> thought, opening up yet another route to follow. It really does work just
    >> that way!
    >>
    >>>> The back-up server for Annexcafe may be found on another private server,
    >>>> here in the UK.
    >>> Internet Explorer? No f***ing way! Won't run on linux and I wouldn't
    >>> use that piece of sh*t anyway.

    >> I understand your sentiments, although I believe IE8 is much
    >> improved.<smile>
    >>
    >> Using linux will not stop you visiting www <dot> <snip> in the first
    >> instance to explore. Someone reading here may have access to IE as well as
    >> linux or OSX and be willing to take a looksee and report what they find.

    >
    > But why should I want to explore that site? Are there links to bogus
    > sites there?
    >



    Simply out of general interest. The newsgroups hosted there (Dogagent)
    have some very good photographs if nothing else (I never discovered any
    containing malware or links to same, but I do believe malware has been
    known to be hidden inside binaries).

    There are 'Squats' available for use by 'others' too - Annexcafe have
    used same - at, apparently, no cost. Very generous, don't you think?

    More interesting to me was/is the fact that the number one
    moderator/policeman at Annexcafe (Troli - aka Trollisa - aka Li) is also
    employed in that very same role by Dave Higham at Dogagent.com

    There is, I'm sure, another connection not far beneath the surface!

    HTH

    --
    Dave

  20. #20
    ~BD~
    Guest

    Re: Annexcafe User2User newsgroup

    Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    > In alt.computer.security, ~BD~ wrote:
    >
    >> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
    >>> This is, of course, a WAG.

    >> WAG? Google gives me 16,300,000 results! Please clarify. TIA

    >
    > Heehee. You can find most 'acronyms' at this site, including:
    > http://www.acronymfinder.com/WAG.html
    >
    > It's not first on the list... (hint: guess)
    > See also: SWAG
    >
    >> FYI - This URL gives some extra background
    >> http://www.pqlr.org/bbs/viewtopic.ph...3&p=8365#p8365

    >
    > ..a thread begun in August 2006. <g>
    >
    >> Some 'interpretation' is required I'm afraid. Btw, Annexcafe has over 300
    >> newsgroups, all funded by a business losing money and run by a recovering
    >> alchoholic! Hmmm!

    >
    > Well, I guess that answers two questions. One: why the hosting is
    > expensive, and Two: why the annex.com code is so old-style.
    >



    Thanks for your response once again, BTS

    I enjoy your sense of humour! ;)

    IMO there are some *very* clever folk responding to queries on U2U

    Should you have the time, why not register with Annexcafe, go to U2U and
    ask any technical question you can think of which might stretch to
    'average' adviser.

    I'll wager that you get a great selection of replies!

    Btw, did you come across the Webrings?
    You could start here http://webrings.annexcafe.com/?Stats&id=95

    The info. doesn't quite tie in with the activity in the group AFAICT.

    Cheers

    --
    Dave

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