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    Lowering Ping?

    I'm looking for a way to lower my ping at least by other 10+ ms or so.. or anything better.

    I'm trying to get lower ping for gaming.

    So far these are the fixes I've done

    Registry Editting

    Added in the values
    TcpAckFrequency=1
    TCPNoDelay=1

    For TCP Optimizer My Optimal settings are
    Bandwidth:4000 Kbps
    MTU:348

    I'm using Road Runner
    My area is Central NY and the Game server is in CA

    This would be my Tracert to the game server

    Tracing route to 208.85.108.23 over a maximum of 30 hops

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
    2 6 ms 5 ms 9 ms 10.237.0.1
    3 7 ms 9 ms 6 ms gig2-3.syrcnysyr-rtr01.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.227.1
    93]
    4 10 ms 7 ms 8 ms gig1-1-0.syrcnyflk-rtr02.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.231
    .54]
    5 12 ms 13 ms 14 ms ge-4-3-0.albynywav-rtr03.nyroc.rr.com [24.24.7.5
    3]
    6 19 ms 16 ms 17 ms ae-5-0.cr0.nyc30.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.74]
    7 21 ms 70 ms 73 ms ae-4-0.cr0.dca20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.28]
    8 24 ms 21 ms 116 ms ae-1-0.pr0.dca10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.165]
    9 25 ms 21 ms 22 ms 66.79.151.149
    10 81 ms 83 ms 81 ms cr1.lax009.inappnet.cr1.wdc005.internap.net [66.
    79.146.85]
    11 93 ms 93 ms 95 ms core1.lax.inappnet-12.cr1.lax009.internap.net [6
    6.79.149.130]
    12 91 ms 97 ms 91 ms border1.t2-1-bbnet1.lax008.pnap.net [216.52.255.
    46]
    13 93 ms 93 ms 93 ms nexon-16.border1.lax008.pnap.net [216.52.220.66]

    14 93 ms 92 ms 91 ms 208.85.108.23

    Thanks for any help.

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    Need your TCP Analyzer report.
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    SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results
    Tested on: 04.27.2009 20:14
    IP address: 72.230.xxx.xxx
    Client OS: Windows XP

    TCP options string: 020401340103030001010402
    MSS: 308
    MTU: 348
    TCP Window: 50204 (multiple of MSS)
    RWIN Scaling: 0 bits
    Unscaled RWIN : 50204
    Recommended RWINs: 65296, 130592, 261184, 522368, 1044736
    BDP limit (200ms): 2008kbps (251KBytes/s)
    BDP limit (500ms): 803kbps (100KBytes/s)
    MTU Discovery: ON
    TTL: 52
    Timestamps: OFF
    SACKs: ON
    IP ToS: 00000000 (0)

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    MTU: 348
    MTU for RR is 1500. Log into your modem/router and set MTU to 1500, MSS 1460 (if any), save & reboot, then see if MTU will change.
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    Hm would that be setting my registry, because I don't see any options for logging into my modem. Is there another thread that specifies the steps for this?

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    To log into your modem, click here http://192.168.1.1 or http://10.0.0.2 :

    Username : your username
    Password : admin or 1234
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    Hm that brings up my router settings and inside that, there's nothing but security settings and such. When i try to connect directly to the modem it says it's connected but i can't get onto the internet directly through an ethernet cable.

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    Are you using proxy programs ?
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    Not any that I know of, and it seems my speed is supposed to be 10.5 mb/s yet with tests to the closest server I'm getting maybe 2-5.

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    Try the following with TCP Optimizer, apply changes, reboot & post new TCP Analyzer to see if MTU will change :

    General Settings tab:
    Custom settings - check
    Modify All Network Adapters - check
    network adapter selection - your NIC
    MTU - 1500
    TTL - 64
    Windows Scaling - uncheck
    TCP Receive Window - leave blank
    MTU Discovery - Yes
    Black Hole Detect - No
    Selective Acks - Yes
    Max Duplicate ACKs - 2
    TCP 1323 Options:
    Timestamps - uncheck

    Advanced Settings tab:
    Max Connections per Server - 10
    Max Connections per 1.0 Server - 10
    LocalPriority - 5
    Host Priority - 6
    DNSPriority - 7
    NetbtPriority - 8
    Lan Browsing speedup - optimized
    QoS: NonBestEffortLimit - 0
    ToS: DisableUserTOSSetting - 0
    ToS: DefaultTOSValue - 80
    MaxNegativeCacheTtl - 0
    NetFailureCacheTime - 0
    NegativeSOACache Time - 0
    LAN Request Buffer Size - 32768
    Last edited by Rollingstone; 04-29-09 at 06:24 PM.
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    SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results
    Tested on: 04.29.2009 14:33
    IP address: 72.230.xxx.xxx
    Client OS: Windows XP

    TCP options string: 020405b40103030e01010402
    MSS: 1460
    MTU: 1500
    TCP Window: 1073725440 (NOT multiple of MSS)
    RWIN Scaling: 14 bits (2^14=16384)
    Unscaled RWIN : 65535
    Recommended RWINs: 64240, 128480, 256960, 513920, 1027840
    BDP limit (200ms): 42949018kbps (5368627KBytes/s)
    BDP limit (500ms): 17179607kbps (2147451KBytes/s)
    MTU Discovery: ON
    TTL: 52
    Timestamps: OFF
    SACKs: ON
    IP ToS: 00000000 (0)


    Speedtest is faster, but in-game I've gotten slower Smaller MTU seems to work better for gaming and higher for downloading

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    Try the following with TCP Optimizer:

    General Settings tab:
    Custom settings - check
    Modify All Network Adapters - check
    network adapter selection - your NIC
    MTU - 1500
    TTL - 64
    Windows Scaling - uncheck
    TCP Receive Window - 64240
    MTU Discovery - Yes
    Black Hole Detect - No
    Selective Acks - Yes
    Max Duplicate ACKs - 2
    TCP 1323 Options:
    Timestamps - uncheck

    Advanced Settings tab:
    Max Connections per Server - 10
    Max Connections per 1.0 Server - 10
    LocalPriority - 5
    Host Priority - 6
    DNSPriority - 7
    NetbtPriority - 8
    Lan Browsing speedup - optimized
    QoS: NonBestEffortLimit - 0
    ToS: DisableUserTOSSetting - 0
    ToS: DefaultTOSValue - 80
    MaxNegativeCacheTtl - 0
    NetFailureCacheTime - 0
    NegativeSOACache Time - 0
    LAN Request Buffer Size - 32768
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    SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results
    Tested on: 04.30.2009 14:47
    IP address: 72.230.xxx.xxx
    Client OS: Windows XP

    TCP options string: 020405b401010402
    MSS: 1460
    MTU: 1500
    TCP Window: 65535 (NOT multiple of MSS)
    RWIN Scaling: 0 bits
    Unscaled RWIN : 65535
    Recommended RWINs: 64240, 128480, 256960, 513920, 1027840
    BDP limit (200ms): 2621kbps (328KBytes/s)
    BDP limit (500ms): 1049kbps (131KBytes/s)
    MTU Discovery: ON
    TTL: 52
    Timestamps: OFF
    SACKs: ON
    IP ToS: 00000000 (0)


    Hmm faster than the settings before but slower than my usual settings.

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    TCP Window: 65535 (NOT multiple of MSS)
    RWIN Scaling: 0 bits
    Unscaled RWIN : 65535
    Recommended RWINs: 64240, 128480, 256960, 513920, 1027840
    Rerun TCP Settings I gave, when done correctly, your TCP Window should be 64240.
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    I'm pretty sure they're all correct, I've checked at least 3 times. Rwin always ends up being 65535

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    Download & run Cablenut > set DefaultReceiveWindow to 64240 > Save to registry > reboot and see if RWIN will change.
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    No it doesn't change, but in the options where it says to select your OS i don't see XP, default was windows 2000 unless version 4.01 isn't the latest one.

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    unless version 4.01 isn't the latest one.
    Yup ! Try version 4.08 ! When done, post your new TCP Analyzer.
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    Installation seems to be 408 but when i right click the adjuster program it says version 4.01

    SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results
    Tested on: 05.01.2009 15:14
    IP address: 72.230.xxx.xxx
    Client OS: Windows XP

    TCP options string: 020405b401010402
    MSS: 1460
    MTU: 1500
    TCP Window: 64240 (multiple of MSS)
    RWIN Scaling: 0 bits
    Unscaled RWIN : 64240
    Recommended RWINs: 64240, 128480, 256960, 513920, 1027840
    BDP limit (200ms): 2570kbps (321KBytes/s)
    BDP limit (500ms): 1028kbps (128KBytes/s)
    MTU Discovery: ON
    TTL: 52
    Timestamps: OFF
    SACKs: ON
    IP ToS: 00000000 (0)
    Last edited by Huynh; 05-01-09 at 03:16 PM.

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    MTU: 1500
    TCP Window: 64240 (multiple of MSS)
    TCP Settings are correct ! How's the speed ?
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