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  1. #1
    John
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    Most respectful firewall

    ....by that I mean it uninstalls as well as it installs, leaving no registry
    entries, etc. behind.
    Comodo FAILS to do this. ZoneAlarm conflicted with my system. Please, and
    answer for a polite firewall? :-)


  2. #2
    Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers
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    Re: Most respectful firewall

    John <John@ihatespam.com> wrote:
    > ...by that I mean it uninstalls as well as it installs, leaving no
    > registry entries, etc. behind.
    > Comodo FAILS to do this. ZoneAlarm conflicted with my system. Please,
    > and answer for a polite firewall? :-)


    The Windows Firewall?

    cu
    59cobalt
    --
    "If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
    their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
    --Mark Russinovich

  3. #3
    John
    Guest

    Re: Most respectful firewall


    "Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers" <usenet-2009@planetcobalt.net> wrote in message
    news:gpmmncUbsjL1@news.in-ulm.de...
    > John <John@ihatespam.com> wrote:
    >> ...by that I mean it uninstalls as well as it installs, leaving no
    >> registry entries, etc. behind.
    >> Comodo FAILS to do this. ZoneAlarm conflicted with my system. Please,
    >> and answer for a polite firewall? :-)

    >
    > The Windows Firewall?
    >
    > cu
    > 59cobalt
    > --
    > "If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
    > their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
    > --Mark Russinovich


    Well, yes I guess, if it's what you mean by a firewall.
    Anyone else??


  4. #4
    Root Kit
    Guest

    Re: Most respectful firewall

    On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:34:37 -0400, "John" <John@ihatespam.com> wrote:

    >
    >"Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers" <usenet-2009@planetcobalt.net> wrote in message
    >news:gpmmncUbsjL1@news.in-ulm.de...
    >> John <John@ihatespam.com> wrote:
    >>> ...by that I mean it uninstalls as well as it installs, leaving no
    >>> registry entries, etc. behind.
    >>> Comodo FAILS to do this. ZoneAlarm conflicted with my system. Please,
    >>> and answer for a polite firewall? :-)

    >>
    >> The Windows Firewall?
    >>
    >> cu
    >> 59cobalt
    >> --
    >> "If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
    >> their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
    >> --Mark Russinovich

    >
    >Well, yes I guess, if it's what you mean by a firewall.
    >Anyone else??


    Comodo and ZoneAlarm aren't really firewalls either - so your point
    being?

  5. #5
    Kayman
    Guest

    Re: Most respectful firewall

    On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:08:55 -0400, John wrote:

    > ...by that I mean it uninstalls as well as it installs, leaving no registry
    > entries, etc. behind.
    > Comodo FAILS to do this. ZoneAlarm conflicted with my system. Please, and
    > answer for a polite firewall? :-)


    For the average homeuser, the Windows Firewall in XP does a fantastic job
    at its core mission and is really all you need if you have an 'real-time'
    anti-virus program, [another firewall on your router or] other edge
    protection like SeconfigXP and practise Safe-Hex.
    The windows firewall deals with inbound protection and therefore does not
    give you a false sense of security. Best of all, it doesn't implement lots
    of nonsense like pretending that outbound traffic needs to be monitored.

    Activate and utilize the Win XP built-in Firewall; Uncheck *all* Programs
    and Services under the Exception tab - recheck frequently).

    Read through:
    Understanding Windows Firewall.
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...2_wfintro.mspx

    Using Windows Firewall.
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...nfirewall.mspx

    How to manually open ports in Internet Connection Firewall in Windows XP.
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308127

    How to Configure Windows Firewall on a Single Computer.
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../cfgfwall.mspx

    Troubleshooting Windows Firewall settings in Windows XP Service Pack 2.
    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=875357

    PFW Criticism.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona...all#Criticisms

    "Personal Firewalls" are mostly snake-oil.
    http://www.samspade.org/d/firewalls.html

    Why your firewall sucks.
    http://tooleaky.zensoft.com/
    "But I quickly realized the truth: The added protection provided by
    outbound filtering is entirely illusory."

    At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.
    http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...l-is-free.aspx

    Deconstructing Common Security Myths.
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...s/default.aspx
    Scroll down to:
    "Myth: Host-Based Firewalls Must Filter Outbound Traffic to be Safe."

    Exploring the windows Firewall.
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...l/default.aspx
    "Outbound protection is security theaterˇXitˇ¦s a gimmick that only gives the
    impression of improving your security without doing anything that actually
    does improve your security."

    In conjunction with WinXP SP2 Firewall use:
    Seconfig XP 1.0
    http://seconfig.sytes.net/
    (http://www.softpedia.com/progDownloa...oad-39707.html)
    Seconfig XP is able configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as transport
    protocol for NetBIOS, SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135, 137-139
    and 445 (the most exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.
    OR
    Configuring NT-services much more secure.
    http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html

    Managing the Windows Vista Firewall
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../cc510323.aspx
    *(read twice!)*

    How Security Companies Sucker Us With Lemons.
    http://www.wired.com/politics/securi...tymatters_0419
    http://www.schneier.com/index.html

  6. #6
    Volker Birk
    Guest

    Re: Most respectful firewall

    Kayman <kayhkay-nospam-@operamail.com> wrote:
    > an 'real-time'
    > anti-virus program


    I fear, anti-virus programs are a vale of tears themselves.

    In contrast to "Personal Firewalls" one can do sensible things with
    them, but most people don't. And the vendors don't do so in default
    configuration.

    Additionally, people are misunderstanding, because of false advertizing.

    > SeconfigXP


    Hey, didn't know it. Looks good. Did anyone test the results?
    <http://seconfig.sytes.net/>

    No Free Software, but freeware, and that could be enough, if the results
    are correct.

    Yours,
    VB.
    --
    Bitte beachten Sie auch die RĂĽckseite dieses Schreibens!

  7. #7
    Root Kit
    Guest

    Re: Most respectful firewall

    On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:33:18 +0100 (CET), Volker Birk
    <bumens@dingens.org> wrote:

    >Kayman <kayhkay-nospam-@operamail.com> wrote:
    >> SeconfigXP

    >
    >Hey, didn't know it. Looks good. Did anyone test the results?
    ><http://seconfig.sytes.net/>


    Yes, works fine (on W2K and XP).

  8. #8
    Volker Birk
    Guest

    Re: Most respectful firewall

    Root Kit <b__nice@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:33:18 +0100 (CET), Volker Birk
    > <bumens@dingens.org> wrote:
    >>Kayman <kayhkay-nospam-@operamail.com> wrote:
    >>> SeconfigXP

    >>Hey, didn't know it. Looks good. Did anyone test the results?
    >><http://seconfig.sytes.net/>

    > Yes, works fine (on W2K and XP).


    I mean, did you connect to a second box directly, and run nmap?

    Yours,
    VB.
    --
    Bitte beachten Sie auch die RĂĽckseite dieses Schreibens!

  9. #9
    G
    Guest

    Re: Most respectful firewall

    In article <6XAvl.3647$Lr6.588@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com>, John@ihatespam.com
    says...
    >
    > ...by that I mean it uninstalls as well as it installs, leaving no registry
    > entries, etc. behind.
    > Comodo FAILS to do this. ZoneAlarm conflicted with my system. Please, and
    > answer for a polite firewall? :-)


    You can check out the last freeware version of Tiny Personal Firewall.
    It does its job and is very non-intrusive. You can find a link to it
    (along with a truckload of other information) at this website:

    http://www.mdgx.com/

    Go to the firewalls section. I think they might also have a link to a
    manual configuration if you're so inclined.

  10. #10
    Neil
    Guest

    Re: Most respectful firewall

    John wrote:

    > ...by that I mean it uninstalls as well as it installs, leaving no
    > registry entries, etc. behind.
    > Comodo FAILS to do this. ZoneAlarm conflicted with my system. Please, and
    > answer for a polite firewall? :-)


    Try Core Force http://force.coresecurity.com/ it's based on a port of the
    PF 'engine' that BSD uses. The PF system is also used on hardware devices
    like Nokia Firewalls so it's pretty good.

    I've used it in the past and liked it but I run Linux at home now so
    IPTables is my defence of choice, and SELinux of course.

    Neil


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