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  1. #1
    RJK
    Guest

    XP Home ed. ...Network...

    I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network, and would
    like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router? ...using ethernet
    leads i.e. not wireless :-)

    They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security patches
    etc.
    ....and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a Linksys
    WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),

    Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?

    Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,

    regards, Richard



  2. #2
    RJK
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...

    ....i.e.
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813937/
    ....do I need to buy a hub or a switch, or will my WAG354G do it ?

    regards, Richard


    "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:e4i4jKnTJHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network, and
    > would like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router? ...using
    > ethernet leads i.e. not wireless :-)
    >
    > They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security patches
    > etc.
    > ...and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a
    > Linksys WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),
    >
    > Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?
    >
    > Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,
    >
    > regards, Richard
    >




  3. #3
    HeyBub
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...

    RJK wrote:
    > I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network,
    > and would like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router? ...using
    > ethernet leads i.e. not wireless :-)
    >
    > They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security
    > patches etc.
    > ...and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a
    > Linksys WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),
    >
    > Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?
    >
    > Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,
    >
    > regards, Richard


    You've got all the hardware you need.

    Do you have access to a 12-year old male?



  4. #4
    Bruce Chambers
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...

    RJK wrote:
    > I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network, and would
    > like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router? ...using ethernet
    > leads i.e. not wireless :-)
    >
    > They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security patches
    > etc.
    > ...and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a Linksys
    > WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),
    >
    > Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?
    >
    > Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,
    >
    > regards, Richard
    >
    >



    It sounds like you've everything you need.

    On each WinXP PC, create local user account(s), with non-blank
    password(s), that have the desired access privileges to the desired
    shares. Log on to the other PCs using those account(s), and you will be
    able to access the designated shares, provided your network is
    configured properly. Also, make sure that WinXP's built-in firewall is
    disabled on the internal LAN connection.

    Usually, WinXP's Networking Wizard makes it simple and painless --
    almost entirely automatic, in fact. There's a lot of useful,
    easy-to-follow information in WinXP's Help & Support files, and here:

    Home Networking
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h...et/default.asp

    Networking Information
    http://www.onecomputerguy.com/networking.htm

    PracticallyNetworked Home
    http://www.practicallynetworked.com/index.htm

    Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
    http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm


    --

    Bruce Chambers

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    killed a great many philosophers.
    ~ Denis Diderot

  5. #5
    RJK
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...


    "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:u5s9jUnTJHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    > RJK wrote:
    >> I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network,
    >> and would like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router? ...using
    >> ethernet leads i.e. not wireless :-)
    >>
    >> They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security
    >> patches etc.
    >> ...and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a
    >> Linksys WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),
    >>
    >> Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?
    >>
    >> Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,
    >>
    >> regards, Richard

    >
    > You've got all the hardware you need.
    >
    > Do you have access to a 12-year old male?
    >


    ....unless that question was a "typo" of some sort, my view has always been
    that proven paedophiles should be castrated, then tied to a chair in a large
    hall, and all the relations of the minor/s (e.g. parents), given full
    access to the paedophile - with baseball bats, and if they don't kill him,
    he should then be put to the electric chair.

    regards, Richard



  6. #6
    John
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...

    I believe it was a joke.
    A 12-year-old boy may be able to network your 2 PCs.

    "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:u39IO4nTJHA.5860@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >
    > "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:u5s9jUnTJHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    >> RJK wrote:
    >>> I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network,
    >>> and would like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router? ...using
    >>> ethernet leads i.e. not wireless :-)
    >>>
    >>> They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security
    >>> patches etc.
    >>> ...and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a
    >>> Linksys WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),
    >>>
    >>> Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?
    >>>
    >>> Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,
    >>>
    >>> regards, Richard

    >>
    >> You've got all the hardware you need.
    >>
    >> Do you have access to a 12-year old male?
    >>

    >
    > ...unless that question was a "typo" of some sort, my view has always been
    > that proven paedophiles should be castrated, then tied to a chair in a
    > large hall, and all the relations of the minor/s (e.g. parents), given
    > full access to the paedophile - with baseball bats, and if they don't kill
    > him, he should then be put to the electric chair.
    >
    > regards, Richard
    >




  7. #7
    RJK
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...


    "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
    news:eWHEKdnTJHA.5920@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > RJK wrote:
    >> I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network, and
    >> would like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router? ...using
    >> ethernet leads i.e. not wireless :-)
    >>
    >> They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security patches
    >> etc.
    >> ...and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a
    >> Linksys WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),
    >>
    >> Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?
    >>
    >> Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,
    >>
    >> regards, Richard

    >
    >
    > It sounds like you've everything you need.
    >
    > On each WinXP PC, create local user account(s), with non-blank
    > password(s), that have the desired access privileges to the desired
    > shares. Log on to the other PCs using those account(s), and you will be
    > able to access the designated shares, provided your network is configured
    > properly. Also, make sure that WinXP's built-in firewall is disabled on
    > the internal LAN connection.
    >
    > Usually, WinXP's Networking Wizard makes it simple and painless --
    > almost entirely automatic, in fact. There's a lot of useful,
    > easy-to-follow information in WinXP's Help & Support files, and here:


    >
    > Home Networking
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h...et/default.asp
    >
    > Networking Information
    > http://www.onecomputerguy.com/networking.htm
    >
    > PracticallyNetworked Home
    > http://www.practicallynetworked.com/index.htm
    >
    > Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
    > http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
    >
    >
    > --
    >
    > Bruce Chambers
    >
    > Help us help you:
    > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
    >
    > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
    >
    > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
    > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
    >
    > Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
    > Russell
    >
    > The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
    > killed a great many philosophers.
    > ~ Denis Diderot



    Many thanks for your response, and links. I can see that I am going to have
    do more reading before "having a go." I keep looking at various "simple
    diagrams" on networking two PC's, and how to connect things up, and how they
    will interface, in relation to how things are set up at the moment,
    ....and then wonder if it would be easier to disconnect the WAG354G, and
    connect the two PC's with a cross-over cable, and try networking them like
    that first / for practice, | and then add a pci LAN card to my main PC, (so
    that it has a second ethernet port), so that I can connect WAG354G, to get
    internet access.
    ....and then I wonder if it would be simpler to buy a hub, attempt to network
    the two PC's, and then connect the WAG354G to the hub, to add in internet
    access -...which would leave three empty rj45 ports on the back of the
    WAG354G, ...which leads me back to thinking that perhaps the WAG354G could
    be doing it all i.e. is a router a hub ? ...i.e. can it act as a hub ?
    (I've gathered that a "switch" is better than a hub btw).
    e.g. do I need to add 2nd ethernet port to my main PC, and have two rj45
    leads going from the WAG354G to the main PC, and one rj45 lead going to the
    2nd PC,
    ....does there have to be two LAN connections set up in XP - one for the two
    PC's and one for the internet ? ...is this connected with an "internal" and
    an "external network," ???

    ....anyhow, I'm off to read your links !

    regards, Richard




  8. #8
    RJK
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...

    ooops ! ...sincere apologies to ALL, I misinterpreted that one for sure, and
    completely <blush>

    ....and, athough incredible, I've never networked two PC's but, have been
    with them since my first 8086 8mhz with no hd and 2 x 5 1/4" floppy drives.

    regards, Richard


    "John" <a> wrote in message news:OAb529nTJHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >I believe it was a joke.
    > A 12-year-old boy may be able to network your 2 PCs.
    >
    > "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:u39IO4nTJHA.5860@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >> "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:u5s9jUnTJHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    >>> RJK wrote:
    >>>> I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network,
    >>>> and would like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router?
    >>>> ...using ethernet leads i.e. not wireless :-)
    >>>>
    >>>> They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security
    >>>> patches etc.
    >>>> ...and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a
    >>>> Linksys WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),
    >>>>
    >>>> Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?
    >>>>
    >>>> Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,
    >>>>
    >>>> regards, Richard
    >>>
    >>> You've got all the hardware you need.
    >>>
    >>> Do you have access to a 12-year old male?
    >>>

    >>
    >> ...unless that question was a "typo" of some sort, my view has always
    >> been that proven paedophiles should be castrated, then tied to a chair in
    >> a large hall, and all the relations of the minor/s (e.g. parents), given
    >> full access to the paedophile - with baseball bats, and if they don't
    >> kill him, he should then be put to the electric chair.
    >>
    >> regards, Richard
    >>

    >
    >




  9. #9
    Twayne
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...

    > I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network,
    > and would like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router?
    > ...using ethernet leads i.e. not wireless :-)
    >
    > They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security
    > patches etc.
    > ...and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a
    > Linksys WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),
    >
    > Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?
    >
    > Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,
    >
    > regards, Richard


    You should be all set with what you have. In fact, if it's only 2
    computers, it can even be done without a router/switch/whatever. All it
    takes is a sort of crossover cable (the ethernet cable - 8 pin config).

    In an unusual departure from the norm, Microsoft, for XP's Help &
    Support has an excellent write-up on setting up a home LAN. Just look
    for LAN, IIRC, or maybe home lan. It explains all the different
    formats, how to set them up, etc.. Definitely worth a read.

    Regards,

    TWayne



  10. #10
    HASAN
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...

    you dont need to make any changes in your hardware, I use my adsl router to
    connect all my pc's/laptop together. simply connect all the systems to the
    router, turn the router's DHCP server on (its usually on by default), on
    your two pcs check that both have a same WORKGROUP name, also check that the
    ip address is set to "obtain ip automatically" on both pcs,then right click
    some folder on both pcs and choose sharing...,go to "sharing wizard" and
    answered the questions, it would setup the necessary access permissions and
    also tune the firewall to let your sharing communications pass the
    firewall.thats it, you now have a home network!
    "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:uTSayDoTJHA.584@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >
    > "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
    > news:eWHEKdnTJHA.5920@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >> RJK wrote:
    >>> I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network, and
    >>> would like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router? ...using
    >>> ethernet leads i.e. not wireless :-)
    >>>
    >>> They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security
    >>> patches etc.
    >>> ...and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a
    >>> Linksys WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),
    >>>
    >>> Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?
    >>>
    >>> Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,



  11. #11
    James Egan
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...


    On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:24:15 -0000, "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network, and would
    >like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router? ...using ethernet
    >leads i.e. not wireless :-)


    Why would you want to wire them together when they are already
    networked together wirelessly?

    Currently all you have to do is to enable file sharing and configure
    the firewalls. Forget the wires unless you have some special reason
    for doing it?


    Jim.


  12. #12
    Bob I
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...

    Umm, that would be sneakernet. ;-)

    RJK wrote:
    > ooops ! ...sincere apologies to ALL, I misinterpreted that one for sure, and
    > completely <blush>
    >
    > ...and, athough incredible, I've never networked two PC's but, have been
    > with them since my first 8086 8mhz with no hd and 2 x 5 1/4" floppy drives.
    >
    > regards, Richard
    >
    >
    > "John" <a> wrote in message news:OAb529nTJHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >
    >>I believe it was a joke.
    >>A 12-year-old boy may be able to network your 2 PCs.
    >>
    >>"RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>news:u39IO4nTJHA.5860@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >>>"HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>news:u5s9jUnTJHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    >>>
    >>>>RJK wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network,
    >>>>>and would like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router?
    >>>>>...using ethernet leads i.e. not wireless :-)
    >>>>>
    >>>>>They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security
    >>>>>patches etc.
    >>>>>...and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a
    >>>>>Linksys WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,
    >>>>>
    >>>>>regards, Richard
    >>>>
    >>>>You've got all the hardware you need.
    >>>>
    >>>>Do you have access to a 12-year old male?
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>...unless that question was a "typo" of some sort, my view has always
    >>>been that proven paedophiles should be castrated, then tied to a chair in
    >>>a large hall, and all the relations of the minor/s (e.g. parents), given
    >>>full access to the paedophile - with baseball bats, and if they don't
    >>>kill him, he should then be put to the electric chair.
    >>>
    >>>regards, Richard
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >



  13. #13
    RJK
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...

    "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message
    news:%23FQVP7rTJHA.1144@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > Hi
    > Two parts in the answer.
    > One: Sharing Internet connection.
    > In most cases there is a Modem that feeds a Cable/DSL Wireless Router, and
    > the whole thing looks like this, http://www.ezlan.net/network/router.jpg
    > A Router is a combo unit that includes Routing circuit to share Internet,
    > and a Switch, and a Wireless Access Point.
    > What the Routing circuit does? Read here,
    > http://www.ezlan.net/routers.html
    > If more than 4 wire ports are needed additional stand alone switches can
    > be chained to get more ports.
    > In your case the Modem + Routing Circuit + 4 ports switch + Wireless
    > Access Point, are combined into one plastic box with one brick power
    > supply called WAG354G.
    > I.e. you have currently everything that is needed to use a single DSL
    > connection with 4 wired computers and many Wireless computers.
    > Read the WAG354G manual Connect everything together and make sure that
    > each computer can use the Internet.
    > Once every computer can connect to the Internet it is time to take care of
    > local file and printer sharing.
    > Two: Files and printer Sharing.
    > It does not matter whether the computer connects to the Wireless Router
    > via wire or Wireless, the sharing is the same.
    > Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
    > settings, http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
    > As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what it is
    > allowed to be shared.
    > Vista File and Printer Sharing-
    > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
    > Windows XP File Sharing -
    > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
    > Printer Sharing XP -
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
    > Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
    > Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
    > Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).
    >
    > "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:e4i4jKnTJHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >> I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network, and
    >> would like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router? ...using
    >> ethernet leads i.e. not wireless :-)
    >>
    >> They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security patches
    >> etc.
    >> ...and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a
    >> Linksys WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),
    >>
    >> Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?
    >>
    >> Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,
    >>
    >> regards, Richard
    >>

    >


    HUuuuuuuge thanks,

    Now that I know that I'm not fighting with hardware which lacks necessary
    features/functionality I can wade into configuration :-)

    regards, Richard



  14. #14
    RJK
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...


    "HASAN" <hasan***@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:OI3iFirTJHA.592@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > you dont need to make any changes in your hardware, I use my adsl router
    > to connect all my pc's/laptop together. simply connect all the systems to
    > the router, turn the router's DHCP server on (its usually on by default),
    > on your two pcs check that both have a same WORKGROUP name, also check
    > that the ip address is set to "obtain ip automatically" on both pcs,then
    > right click some folder on both pcs and choose sharing...,go to "sharing
    > wizard" and answered the questions, it would setup the necessary access
    > permissions and also tune the firewall to let your sharing communications
    > pass the firewall.thats it, you now have a home network!
    > "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:uTSayDoTJHA.584@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
    >> news:eWHEKdnTJHA.5920@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>> RJK wrote:
    >>>> I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network, and
    >>>> would like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router? ...using
    >>>> ethernet leads i.e. not wireless :-)
    >>>>
    >>>> They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security
    >>>> patches etc.
    >>>> ...and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a
    >>>> Linksys WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),
    >>>>
    >>>> Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?
    >>>>
    >>>> Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,

    >



    Many thanks,

    Now that I know that I'm not fighting with hardware which lacks necessary
    features/functionality I can wade into configuration :-)

    regards, Richard



  15. #15
    RJK
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...


    "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
    news:uKaynyoTJHA.5860@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >> I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network,
    >> and would like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router? ...using
    >> ethernet leads i.e. not wireless :-)
    >>
    >> They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security
    >> patches etc.
    >> ...and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a
    >> Linksys WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),
    >>
    >> Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?
    >>
    >> Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,
    >>
    >> regards, Richard

    >
    > You should be all set with what you have. In fact, if it's only 2
    > computers, it can even be done without a router/switch/whatever. All it
    > takes is a sort of crossover cable (the ethernet cable - 8 pin config).
    >
    > In an unusual departure from the norm, Microsoft, for XP's Help & Support
    > has an excellent write-up on setting up a home LAN. Just look for LAN,
    > IIRC, or maybe home lan. It explains all the different formats, how to
    > set them up, etc.. Definitely worth a read.
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > TWayne
    >
    >



    Many thanks,

    Now that I know that I'm not fighting with hardware which lacks necessary
    features/functionality I can wade into configuration :-)

    regards, Richard



  16. #16
    RJK
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...


    "James Egan" <jegan@jegan.com> wrote in message
    news:6p1e4uF5j5ptU1@mid.individual.net...
    >
    > On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:24:15 -0000, "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network, and
    >>would
    >>like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router? ...using ethernet
    >>leads i.e. not wireless :-)

    >
    > Why would you want to wire them together when they are already
    > networked together wirelessly?
    >
    > Currently all you have to do is to enable file sharing and configure
    > the firewalls. Forget the wires unless you have some special reason
    > for doing it?
    >
    >
    > Jim.
    >



    Many thanks,

    Now that I know that I'm not fighting with hardware which lacks necessary
    features/functionality I can wade into configuration :-)

    regards, Richard



  17. #17
    Curt Christianson
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...

    Hello again Richard,

    I agree with what the others have said. You have all you need right there.
    There are some really good links provided to you. I have a similar setup in
    my location, only the "powers that be" will not allow cable to be routed, as
    the computers are on two different floors. I am going to do just as
    you--only wireless.

    Good luck! This sounds like a good learning experience for both of us.

    --
    HTH,

    Curt

    http://dundats.mvps.org/
    http://www.aumha.org/
    http://dundats.mvps.org/AutoIt/default.aspx





    "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:e4i4jKnTJHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network, and
    > would like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router? ...using
    > ethernet leads i.e. not wireless :-)
    >
    > They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security patches
    > etc.
    > ...and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a
    > Linksys WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),
    >
    > Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?
    >
    > Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,
    >
    > regards, Richard
    >




  18. #18
    RJK
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...

    "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:eN6V4M1TJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Hello again Richard,
    >
    > I agree with what the others have said. You have all you need right
    > there. There are some really good links provided to you. I have a similar
    > setup in my location, only the "powers that be" will not allow cable to be
    > routed, as the computers are on two different floors. I am going to do
    > just as you--only wireless.
    >
    > Good luck! This sounds like a good learning experience for both of us.
    >
    > --
    > HTH,
    >
    > Curt
    >
    > http://dundats.mvps.org/
    > http://www.aumha.org/
    > http://dundats.mvps.org/AutoIt/default.aspx
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:e4i4jKnTJHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >> I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network, and
    >> would like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router? ...using
    >> ethernet leads i.e. not wireless :-)
    >>
    >> They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security patches
    >> etc.
    >> ...and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a
    >> Linksys WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),
    >>
    >> Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?
    >>
    >> Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,
    >>
    >> regards, Richard
    >>

    >
    >


    Hello Curt,

    I finally managed, (after a very long time), to ask my question about
    hardware, specifically its' networking capabilities, ((in an, (unusually for
    me!), succinct fashion)), and got the answer I'd been hoping for !
    ....many thanks again to all who finally "drummed" that answer into me !

    Now, prior to engaging in a fight with MS's, allegedly, "automatic" and very
    helpful Network configuration Wizard, I thought I'd first uninstall, and
    reinstall AVG 8.0 Internet Security on both of my PC's so that all the AVG
    Standard Firewall "Profiles" e.g. "Small Home or Office Network", are all
    available, ((i.e. I deleted the "Small Home or Office Network" profile on
    both PC's a while ago, ( I have a 5 PC multi license pack with AVG)). The
    intention there was to pre-empt or reduce problems with firewalls' when I
    eventually make my attempt at networking the two PC's.

    As when installing AVG 8.0 full Internet Security suite on previous
    occasions, I've ended up in almost complete confusion over AVG's "Areas and
    adapter profiles"/"Adapters and Areas,"
    "Adapters connected to Safe Networks," ...(is currently set to "Unassigned)"
    "RealTek RTL8139" ......LAN chip on motherboard.
    "All Network Areas / "Orange ?" ...I labelled the "network area" "Orange ?"
    ....possibly that which was detected and demanded a name during
    reinstallation of AVG 8.0 ...so I had yet another cigarette and gazed at the
    screen in wonderment for even more ages, ...wondering if the installation
    routine was asking me about a level of internet access security for
    "Orange," (my ISP is Orange), or was it asking about the LAN chip connection
    to my adsl modem/router ...and now,
    ....after having gazed and re-read the AVG Help pages, for ages, it's half
    past midnight plus ! ....so I'm going to switch it off and go to bed.
    ....haven't even reinstalled AVG 8.0 on 2nd PC,
    ....and haven't got anywhere near running MS Network configuration wizard !!!

    ....regarding your rj45/Cat 5 cable vs. wireless, my WAG354 is currently
    sending internet to my fathers' PC in the house, THAT was an experience and
    a half - matching WPA security keys / channel / setting MAC codes in router
    etc. DHCP / IP / gateway addresses etc. ...fighting with it for goodness
    know how many hours and eventually discovering that the Linksys WMP54G pci
    wireless card application software was causing problems ! i.e. one had
    probably been tweaking things that didn't need tweaking, (causing LOTS of
    time consuming frustration), then after upgrading the application software
    for it, from Linksys, most of the problems vanished, ...after changing
    software settings back to those, that hadn't needed changing in the first
    place !

    regards, Richard



  19. #19
    Curt Christianson
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...

    Richard,

    You're right, this should be a fun experience. I don't anticipate any
    problems with WPA, etc.however.
    Both machines access the wireless router on their own beautifully, so at
    this point I just have to make them "talk" to each other.

    I agree in getting AVG out of the way temporarily. So many users have
    problems when their security suites (AVG, Symantec, etc.) are running when
    attempting to do updates, etc. Things go much better if they are not their
    during major updates, or things of that ilk. Good luck, and let us know.

    --
    HTH,

    Curt

    http://dundats.mvps.org/
    http://www.aumha.org/
    http://dundats.mvps.org/AutoIt/default.aspx





    "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:eeA$711TJHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    > "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:eN6V4M1TJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >> Hello again Richard,
    >>
    >> I agree with what the others have said. You have all you need right
    >> there. There are some really good links provided to you. I have a
    >> similar setup in my location, only the "powers that be" will not allow
    >> cable to be routed, as the computers are on two different floors. I am
    >> going to do just as you--only wireless.
    >>
    >> Good luck! This sounds like a good learning experience for both of us.
    >>
    >> --
    >> HTH,
    >>
    >> Curt
    >>
    >> http://dundats.mvps.org/
    >> http://www.aumha.org/
    >> http://dundats.mvps.org/AutoIt/default.aspx
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:e4i4jKnTJHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >>> I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network, and
    >>> would like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router? ...using
    >>> ethernet leads i.e. not wireless :-)
    >>>
    >>> They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security
    >>> patches etc.
    >>> ...and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a
    >>> Linksys WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),
    >>>
    >>> Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?
    >>>
    >>> Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,
    >>>
    >>> regards, Richard
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    > Hello Curt,
    >
    > I finally managed, (after a very long time), to ask my question about
    > hardware, specifically its' networking capabilities, ((in an, (unusually
    > for me!), succinct fashion)), and got the answer I'd been hoping for !
    > ...many thanks again to all who finally "drummed" that answer into me !
    >
    > Now, prior to engaging in a fight with MS's, allegedly, "automatic" and
    > very helpful Network configuration Wizard, I thought I'd first uninstall,
    > and reinstall AVG 8.0 Internet Security on both of my PC's so that all the
    > AVG Standard Firewall "Profiles" e.g. "Small Home or Office Network", are
    > all available, ((i.e. I deleted the "Small Home or Office Network" profile
    > on both PC's a while ago, ( I have a 5 PC multi license pack with AVG)).
    > The intention there was to pre-empt or reduce problems with firewalls'
    > when I eventually make my attempt at networking the two PC's.
    >
    > As when installing AVG 8.0 full Internet Security suite on previous
    > occasions, I've ended up in almost complete confusion over AVG's "Areas
    > and adapter profiles"/"Adapters and Areas,"
    > "Adapters connected to Safe Networks," ...(is currently set to
    > "Unassigned)"
    > "RealTek RTL8139" ......LAN chip on motherboard.
    > "All Network Areas / "Orange ?" ...I labelled the "network area" "Orange
    > ?" ...possibly that which was detected and demanded a name during
    > reinstallation of AVG 8.0 ...so I had yet another cigarette and gazed at
    > the screen in wonderment for even more ages, ...wondering if the
    > installation routine was asking me about a level of internet access
    > security for "Orange," (my ISP is Orange), or was it asking about the LAN
    > chip connection to my adsl modem/router ...and now,
    > ...after having gazed and re-read the AVG Help pages, for ages, it's half
    > past midnight plus ! ....so I'm going to switch it off and go to bed.
    > ...haven't even reinstalled AVG 8.0 on 2nd PC,
    > ...and haven't got anywhere near running MS Network configuration wizard
    > !!!
    >
    > ...regarding your rj45/Cat 5 cable vs. wireless, my WAG354 is currently
    > sending internet to my fathers' PC in the house, THAT was an experience
    > and a half - matching WPA security keys / channel / setting MAC codes in
    > router etc. DHCP / IP / gateway addresses etc. ...fighting with it for
    > goodness know how many hours and eventually discovering that the Linksys
    > WMP54G pci wireless card application software was causing problems ! i.e.
    > one had probably been tweaking things that didn't need tweaking, (causing
    > LOTS of time consuming frustration), then after upgrading the application
    > software for it, from Linksys, most of the problems vanished, ...after
    > changing software settings back to those, that hadn't needed changing in
    > the first place !
    >
    > regards, Richard
    >
    >




  20. #20
    RJK
    Guest

    Re: XP Home ed. ...Network...

    I may have made some progress :-

    "My Network places" on "server" PC is showing:-

    data on LianLi(D935) \\d935\data
    SharedDocs on LianLi(d935) \\D935\SharedDocs

    ....but, 2nd PC can't see them !

    regards, Richard



    "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:%23vc$hI9TJHA.5244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > This is like trying to find a needle in a haystack !
    > ...All I've managed so far is to get my main PC warning me that if I
    > proceed - everyone on the internet will be able to see my files and use my
    > printers !
    > ...and the 2nd PC which tells me that I do not have the necessary
    > administrative permissions to do very much with a Network at all !
    > ( Both PC's boot straight into Adminstator mode i.e. I've never set up
    > user accounts, as such on them ! )
    >
    > I've tried setting up a workgroup - the type of hardware configuration
    > that one had to select is difficult - though I think I've selected the
    > correct one. Then, the 2nd PC can't display or see the WorkGroup - and
    > when I first ran the Network setup wizard on the 2nd PC, it needed to
    > reboot, and whilst rebooting it decided to do a dos level chkdsk, making
    > me suspect that the Network Connection wizard did all sorts of damage on
    > the 2nd PC before rebooting, as chkdsk / 10 to 20 filenames whizzed up the
    > screen including some *.dll's !
    >
    > Oh, for a "hold-my-hand" tutorial that explains what needs to be set up
    > and how - in Windows !
    >
    > Many years ago I networked a few PC's in Bristol, (no Windows - all DOS
    > based apps.), and one had to assign.exe, or was it subst.exe, (can't
    > remember now), hd C:\ for H:\ so that nodes with SuperCalc v3.0-v5.5? on
    > them , could load up spreadsheets stored on the main PC. Looking back,
    > ....GOODNESS only knows how I got all that working !!! ...and here I am,
    > can't make head nor tails of this facility in Windows !
    >
    > Anyhow, on 2nd PC :-
    > "View Network Connections" contains only one LAN icon - to router -
    > where it gets its' internet connection from I suppose !
    > "View WorkGroup computers" is empty, then a timer bottle - then ""Rjk"
    > (workgroup name i gave it), is not accessible, You migh not have
    > permission....etc."
    > I gathered that the WG name has to be the same on both PC's - will have to
    > urn the network setup wizard on 2nd Pc again I think.
    >
    > ...oh, what joy !!
    >
    > regards, Richard
    >
    >
    > "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:eHCId72TJHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >> Richard,
    >>
    >> You're right, this should be a fun experience. I don't anticipate any
    >> problems with WPA, etc.however.
    >> Both machines access the wireless router on their own beautifully, so at
    >> this point I just have to make them "talk" to each other.
    >>
    >> I agree in getting AVG out of the way temporarily. So many users have
    >> problems when their security suites (AVG, Symantec, etc.) are running
    >> when attempting to do updates, etc. Things go much better if they are
    >> not their during major updates, or things of that ilk. Good luck, and
    >> let us know.
    >>
    >> --
    >> HTH,
    >>
    >> Curt
    >>
    >> http://dundats.mvps.org/
    >> http://www.aumha.org/
    >> http://dundats.mvps.org/AutoIt/default.aspx
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:eeA$711TJHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    >>> "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:eN6V4M1TJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Hello again Richard,
    >>>>
    >>>> I agree with what the others have said. You have all you need right
    >>>> there. There are some really good links provided to you. I have a
    >>>> similar setup in my location, only the "powers that be" will not allow
    >>>> cable to be routed, as the computers are on two different floors. I am
    >>>> going to do just as you--only wireless.
    >>>>
    >>>> Good luck! This sounds like a good learning experience for both of us.
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> HTH,
    >>>>
    >>>> Curt
    >>>>
    >>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/
    >>>> http://www.aumha.org/
    >>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/AutoIt/default.aspx
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:e4i4jKnTJHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> I've been reading some primers on setting up a small home network, and
    >>>>> would like to try networking 2 PC's together, via a router? ...using
    >>>>> ethernet leads i.e. not wireless :-)
    >>>>>
    >>>>> They both have XP Home ed. SP3 ...all up to date with MS security
    >>>>> patches etc.
    >>>>> ...and at the moment, they both get their internet connection from a
    >>>>> Linksys WAG354G (which is an adsl modem/4 port router),
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Can this Linksys do the job, or do I need to buy something different ?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Completely confused about hubs, routers etc,
    >>>>>
    >>>>> regards, Richard
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Hello Curt,
    >>>
    >>> I finally managed, (after a very long time), to ask my question about
    >>> hardware, specifically its' networking capabilities, ((in an, (unusually
    >>> for me!), succinct fashion)), and got the answer I'd been hoping for !
    >>> ...many thanks again to all who finally "drummed" that answer into me !
    >>>
    >>> Now, prior to engaging in a fight with MS's, allegedly, "automatic" and
    >>> very helpful Network configuration Wizard, I thought I'd first
    >>> uninstall, and reinstall AVG 8.0 Internet Security on both of my PC's so
    >>> that all the AVG Standard Firewall "Profiles" e.g. "Small Home or Office
    >>> Network", are all available, ((i.e. I deleted the "Small Home or Office
    >>> Network" profile on both PC's a while ago, ( I have a 5 PC multi license
    >>> pack with AVG)). The intention there was to pre-empt or reduce problems
    >>> with firewalls' when I eventually make my attempt at networking the two
    >>> PC's.
    >>>
    >>> As when installing AVG 8.0 full Internet Security suite on previous
    >>> occasions, I've ended up in almost complete confusion over AVG's "Areas
    >>> and adapter profiles"/"Adapters and Areas,"
    >>> "Adapters connected to Safe Networks," ...(is currently set to
    >>> "Unassigned)"
    >>> "RealTek RTL8139" ......LAN chip on motherboard.
    >>> "All Network Areas / "Orange ?" ...I labelled the "network area"
    >>> "Orange ?" ...possibly that which was detected and demanded a name
    >>> during reinstallation of AVG 8.0 ...so I had yet another cigarette and
    >>> gazed at the screen in wonderment for even more ages, ...wondering if
    >>> the installation routine was asking me about a level of internet access
    >>> security for "Orange," (my ISP is Orange), or was it asking about the
    >>> LAN chip connection to my adsl modem/router ...and now,
    >>> ...after having gazed and re-read the AVG Help pages, for ages, it's
    >>> half past midnight plus ! ....so I'm going to switch it off and go to
    >>> bed.
    >>> ...haven't even reinstalled AVG 8.0 on 2nd PC,
    >>> ...and haven't got anywhere near running MS Network configuration wizard
    >>> !!!
    >>>
    >>> ...regarding your rj45/Cat 5 cable vs. wireless, my WAG354 is currently
    >>> sending internet to my fathers' PC in the house, THAT was an experience
    >>> and a half - matching WPA security keys / channel / setting MAC codes in
    >>> router etc. DHCP / IP / gateway addresses etc. ...fighting with it for
    >>> goodness know how many hours and eventually discovering that the Linksys
    >>> WMP54G pci wireless card application software was causing problems !
    >>> i.e. one had probably been tweaking things that didn't need tweaking,
    >>> (causing LOTS of time consuming frustration), then after upgrading the
    >>> application software for it, from Linksys, most of the problems
    >>> vanished, ...after changing software settings back to those, that hadn't
    >>> needed changing in the first place !
    >>>
    >>> regards, Richard
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >




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