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  1. #1
    Derio
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    OpenDNS Now Blocker Conficker & Other Botnet Threats

    And OpenDNS is free!

    Take a tour of OpenDNS here: http://www.opendns.com/welcome/intro/

    And see: http://www.opendns.com/about/announcements/122/

    D

  2. #2
    Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers
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    Re: OpenDNS Now Blocker Conficker & Other Botnet Threats

    Derio <DerioD@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > And OpenDNS is free!


    Threats like Conficker are mitigated by secure system configuration
    (i.e. not making services publicly available that aren't supposed to be
    publicly available). Trying to mitigate them by manipulating DNS is an
    utterly stupid thing to do.

    cu
    59cobalt
    --
    "If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
    their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
    --Mark Russinovich

  3. #3
    Poutnik
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    Re: OpenDNS Now Blocker Conficker & Other Botnet Threats

    In article <gn6d72Un6eL2@news.in-ulm.de>, usenet-2009@planetcobalt.net
    says...
    >
    > Derio <DerioD@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > > And OpenDNS is free!

    >
    > Threats like Conficker are mitigated by secure system configuration
    > (i.e. not making services publicly available that aren't supposed to be
    > publicly available). Trying to mitigate them by manipulating DNS is an
    > utterly stupid thing to do.
    >

    DNS mitigation has of sense as well as having secure system
    configuration, if done in conjuction.

    If I have a gun, bulletproof vest and bodyguards
    it does not mean it is wise to visit dangerous places.


    --
    Poutnik

  4. #4
    Bit Twister
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    Re: OpenDNS Now Blocker Conficker & Other Botnet Threats

    On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:25:06 +0100 (CET), Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:

    > Threats like Conficker are mitigated by secure system configuration
    > (i.e. not making services publicly available that aren't supposed to be
    > publicly available). Trying to mitigate them by manipulating DNS is an
    > utterly stupid thing to do.


    Heheh, only script kiddies are going after publicly available services.

    Because of the NATing routers and people finally installing firewalls,
    Black hats have long since moved to going after exploits in the applications
    reading Internet content (document, video, audio viewer/players....)

  5. #5
    Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers
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    Re: OpenDNS Now Blocker Conficker & Other Botnet Threats

    Poutnik <poutnikletspamisoutofabox@atlas.cz> wrote:
    > In article <gn6d72Un6eL2@news.in-ulm.de>, usenet-2009@planetcobalt.net
    > says...


    I know which article I wrote that in. It also says so in the headers. No
    need to bloat your attribution with that redundant information.

    >> Threats like Conficker are mitigated by secure system configuration
    >> (i.e. not making services publicly available that aren't supposed to
    >> be publicly available). Trying to mitigate them by manipulating DNS
    >> is an utterly stupid thing to do.
    >>

    > DNS mitigation has of sense as well as having secure system
    > configuration, if done in conjuction.


    No malware is forced to use the resolver(s) configured in the system,
    which makes DNS manipulation utterly pointless for mitigating this kind
    of threat. DNS manipulation also doesn't prevent infections in the first
    place, so even if you could prevent malware from phoning home via DNS
    manipulation (which you can't) your systems would still be hosed.

    Never EVER rely on this kind of pointless pseudo-security. You could
    just as well paint your computers with chicken blood. That's about as
    effective.

    cu
    59cobalt
    --
    "If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
    their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
    --Mark Russinovich

  6. #6
    Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers
    Guest

    Re: OpenDNS Now Blocker Conficker & Other Botnet Threats

    Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    > On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:25:06 (CET), Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
    >> Threats like Conficker are mitigated by secure system configuration
    >> (i.e. not making services publicly available that aren't supposed to
    >> be publicly available). Trying to mitigate them by manipulating DNS
    >> is an utterly stupid thing to do.

    >
    > Heheh, only script kiddies are going after publicly available
    > services.


    Well, those "script kiddies" managed to get parts of the networks of
    Britsh, French and German military offline. ;)

    > Because of the NATing routers and people finally installing firewalls,
    > Black hats have long since moved to going after exploits in the
    > applications reading Internet content (document, video, audio
    > viewer/players....)


    That's a different attack vector. Harder to exploit, because it's a
    passive attack. Stuff like that usually works best for targeted attacks.

    cu
    59cobalt
    --
    "If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
    their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
    --Mark Russinovich

  7. #7
    Poutnik
    Guest

    Re: OpenDNS Now Blocker Conficker & Other Botnet Threats


    >
    > Never EVER rely on this kind of pointless pseudo-security. You could
    > just as well paint your computers with chicken blood. That's about as
    > effective.
    >

    Your response is exactly what I was expecting,
    therefore contains no information.

    --
    Poutnik

  8. #8
    Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers
    Guest

    Re: OpenDNS Now Blocker Conficker & Other Botnet Threats

    Poutnik <poutnikletspamisoutofabox@atlas.cz> wrote:
    >> Never EVER rely on this kind of pointless pseudo-security. You could
    >> just as well paint your computers with chicken blood. That's about as
    >> effective.

    >
    > Your response is exactly what I was expecting,
    > therefore contains no information.


    Don't worry, I did't expect you to understand it.

    Everyone else will find the relevant information in that part of my
    posting which you chose not to quote.

    cu
    59cobalt
    --
    "If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
    their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
    --Mark Russinovich

  9. #9
    s|b
    Guest

    Re: OpenDNS Now Blocker Conficker & Other Botnet Threats

    On 13 Feb 2009 23:23:39 GMT, Derio wrote:

    > And OpenDNS is free!


    What about privacy? Its HQ is in the US, no? That Patriot Act is still
    in effect, isn't it?

    Also:

    <http://www.opendns.com/privacy/>

    | We are affiliated with a variety of businesses and work closely with
    | them in order to provide our services to users. We will only share
    | personal information with affiliates to the extent that is necessary for
    | such affiliates to provide the services. For example, when a website
    | visitor searches on OpenDNS, the IP address and query are shared with
    | OpenDNS's advertising partners.

    But it's free, right?

    --
    s|b

  10. #10
    Volker Birk
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    Re: OpenDNS Now Blocker Conficker & Other Botnet Threats

    Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers <usenet-2009@planetcobalt.net> wrote:
    > Well, those "script kiddies" managed to get parts of the networks of
    > Britsh, French and German military offline. ;)


    And that tells us about the idiocracy of those who are responsible
    for the IT there.

    Yours,
    VB.
    --
    Bitte beachten Sie auch die R├╝ckseite dieses Schreibens!

  11. #11
    Derio
    Guest

    Re: OpenDNS Now Blocker Conficker & Other Botnet Threats

    "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote in news:499718e3_2@news4us.nl:

    > On 13 Feb 2009 23:23:39 GMT, Derio wrote:
    >
    >> And OpenDNS is free!

    >
    > What about privacy? Its HQ is in the US, no? That Patriot Act is still
    > in effect, isn't it?
    >
    > Also:
    >



    Hello little fellow!

    Belgian "Al Qaeda Cell" in touch with Architect of Transantlantic Airline
    Plot:
    http://counterterrorismblog.org/2009...l_in_touch.php


    I wonder how the Belgians discovered this plot? Do you think they had to
    intrude on someone's "privacy"? Moron.

  12. #12
    s|b
    Guest

    Re: OpenDNS Now Blocker Conficker & Other Botnet Threats

    On 15 Feb 2009 19:40:52 GMT, Derio wrote:

    > Belgian "Al Qaeda Cell" in touch with Architect of Transantlantic Airline
    > Plot:
    > http://counterterrorismblog.org/2009...l_in_touch.php
    >
    >
    > I wonder how the Belgians discovered this plot? Do you think they had to
    > intrude on someone's "privacy"? Moron.


    You must be very upset by the comments of the other posters that you
    start calling me names. I wish I could tell you that it impresses me,
    but sadly for you, it does not.

    Now, how about that Patriot Act eh?

    --
    s|b

  13. #13
    Derio
    Guest

    Re: OpenDNS Now Blocker Conficker & Other Botnet Threats

    "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote in news:49987bc4$1_5@news4us.nl:

    > On 15 Feb 2009 19:40:52 GMT, Derio wrote:
    >
    >> Belgian "Al Qaeda Cell" in touch with Architect of Transantlantic
    >> Airline Plot:
    >> http://counterterrorismblog.org/2009..._cell_in_touch
    >> .php
    >>
    >>
    >> I wonder how the Belgians discovered this plot? Do you think they
    >> had to intrude on someone's "privacy"? Moron.

    >
    > You must be very upset by the comments of the other posters that you
    > start calling me names. I wish I could tell you that it impresses me,
    > but sadly for you, it does not.
    >
    > Now, how about that Patriot Act eh?
    >


    Upset? Not at all. It is no effort and, indeed, a pleasure to call expand
    on my initial assessment of you as a moron, to being an infantile, half-
    witted, sackless piece of human garbage.

    Yes, no effort at all.

    D

  14. #14
    Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers
    Guest

    Re: OpenDNS Now Blocker Conficker & Other Botnet Threats

    Derio <DerioD@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote in news:49987bc4$1_5@news4us.nl:
    >> You must be very upset by the comments of the other posters that you
    >> start calling me names. I wish I could tell you that it impresses me,
    >> but sadly for you, it does not.
    >>
    >> Now, how about that Patriot Act eh?

    >
    > Upset? Not at all. It is no effort and, indeed, a pleasure to call
    > expand on my initial assessment of you as a moron, to being an
    > infantile, half-witted, sackless piece of human garbage.
    >
    > Yes, no effort at all.


    Get lost, dimwit.

    *plonk*

    cu
    59cobalt
    --
    "If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
    their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
    --Mark Russinovich

  15. #15
    Derio
    Guest

    Re: OpenDNS Now Blocker Conficker & Other Botnet Threats

    Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers <usenet-2009@planetcobalt.net> wrote in
    news:gnb8a0Uj3fL1@news.in-ulm.de:

    > Derio <DerioD@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >> "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote in news:49987bc4$1_5@news4us.nl:
    >>> You must be very upset by the comments of the other posters that you
    >>> start calling me names. I wish I could tell you that it impresses me,
    >>> but sadly for you, it does not.
    >>>
    >>> Now, how about that Patriot Act eh?

    >>
    >> Upset? Not at all. It is no effort and, indeed, a pleasure to call
    >> expand on my initial assessment of you as a moron, to being an
    >> infantile, half-witted, sackless piece of human garbage.
    >>
    >> Yes, no effort at all.

    >
    > Get lost, dimwit.
    >
    > *plonk*
    >
    > cu
    > 59cobalt


    Tsk, tsk garbagebag (I mean 59cobalt). Try to control yourself now, keep
    that sissified Germanic psyche of yours under wraps. Because when unveiled,
    you prove to all that you are not worth the ****** diet you subsist on.

  16. #16
    s|b
    Guest

    Re: OpenDNS Now Blocker Conficker & Other Botnet Threats

    On 16 Feb 2009 01:36:59 GMT, Derio wrote:

    > Upset? Not at all. It is no effort and, indeed, a pleasure to call expand
    > on my initial assessment of you as a moron, to being an infantile, half-
    > witted, sackless piece of human garbage.
    >
    > Yes, no effort at all.


    Sticks and stones...

    --
    s|b

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