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  1. #1
    Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com
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    comcast throttling giganews

    comcast is throttling my giganews server. does anyone have any ideas
    if this is permanent, applies only to nntp packets, or how comcast
    does this.

  2. #2
    paul_0090
    Guest

    Re: comcast throttling giganews

    On 2009-01-04, Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com <Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com> wrote:
    > comcast is throttling my giganews server. does anyone have any ideas
    > if this is permanent, applies only to nntp packets, or how comcast
    > does this.


    Haven't had any "throttling" problems downloading either an 81 meg file from
    lucasarts or the 4.3 gig linux dvd; did the download via a command mode
    ftp client.

    Do have sporadic disconnects of about 1 sec while listening to web audio
    streams.

    Just remembered regarding the download of the linux dvd is that it dies of
    disconnects when using the browser to get the iso file; switch to command mode
    & got the 4.3 gig at about what is a bit higher than 6 mbps.

  3. #3
    f/fgeorge
    Guest

    Re: comcast throttling giganews

    On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:19:39 -0500, Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com
    wrote:

    >comcast is throttling my giganews server. does anyone have any ideas
    >if this is permanent, applies only to nntp packets, or how comcast
    >does this.

    IF they really are throttling it is done at the main station and there
    is nothing you or I can do about it. Are you sure they are throttling?
    Could it be just a slow net and/or a slow connect point? Look here and
    then click on the closet to you and you can drill down to see if yours
    is slow. http://www.internettrafficreport.com/main.htm

  4. #4
    Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com
    Guest

    Re: comcast throttling giganews

    On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:58:53 GMT, f/fgeorge <ffgeorge@yourplace.com>
    wrote:

    >On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:19:39 -0500, Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com
    >wrote:
    >
    >>comcast is throttling my giganews server. does anyone have any ideas
    >>if this is permanent, applies only to nntp packets, or how comcast
    >>does this.

    >IF they really are throttling it is done at the main station and there
    >is nothing you or I can do about it. Are you sure they are throttling?
    >Could it be just a slow net and/or a slow connect point? Look here and
    >then click on the closet to you and you can drill down to see if yours
    >is slow. http://www.internettrafficreport.com/main.htm


    no absolutely sure about it. i have 16MBit, and up until about a month
    ago, i coudl pull in about 2.2megabytes per. then for about a month i
    was downloading some huge files. then one sad day i connected my
    newsreader and i could never, ever get past about 1 MB per down, most
    of the time dropping into the high K's. it looks like these jackasses
    start throttling you and never unthrottle you. i swear that those
    people at comcast are lost in space. as with everyone else in the
    universe, once FIOS comes to town they hoover all of comcraps internet
    customers. I just do not have FIOS yet.

  5. #5
    $Bill
    Guest

    Re: comcast throttling giganews

    Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com wrote:
    >
    > no absolutely sure about it. i have 16MBit, and up until about a month
    > ago, i coudl pull in about 2.2megabytes per. then for about a month i
    > was downloading some huge files. then one sad day i connected my
    > newsreader and i could never, ever get past about 1 MB per down, most
    > of the time dropping into the high K's. it looks like these jackasses
    > start throttling you and never unthrottle you. i swear that those
    > people at comcast are lost in space. as with everyone else in the
    > universe, once FIOS comes to town they hoover all of comcraps internet
    > customers. I just do not have FIOS yet.


    Can you D/L other files from other sites at higher speeds ? It could
    be the news server itself is the problem.

    Did you check your modem to see what it's throttled at ? It might not
    be giving you the 16Mb that it should.

  6. #6
    Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com
    Guest

    Re: comcast throttling giganews

    On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:22:25 -0800, "$Bill" <news@SPAMOLAtodbe.com>
    wrote:

    >Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com wrote:
    >>
    >> no absolutely sure about it. i have 16MBit, and up until about a month
    >> ago, i coudl pull in about 2.2megabytes per. then for about a month i
    >> was downloading some huge files. then one sad day i connected my
    >> newsreader and i could never, ever get past about 1 MB per down, most
    >> of the time dropping into the high K's. it looks like these jackasses
    >> start throttling you and never unthrottle you. i swear that those
    >> people at comcast are lost in space. as with everyone else in the
    >> universe, once FIOS comes to town they hoover all of comcraps internet
    >> customers. I just do not have FIOS yet.

    >
    >Can you D/L other files from other sites at higher speeds ? It could
    >be the news server itself is the problem.
    >
    >Did you check your modem to see what it's throttled at ? It might not
    >be giving you the 16Mb that it should.


    no i tested it with stunnel, and tested d/l speed on dsl reports.
    accrding to reports I am getting 16MB, (at least close to ny). it's
    the not the modem either. I think i read a report on dsl reports that
    comcrap's throttling is now 100% everywhere. Maybe if you upgrade to
    ultra (22MB), comcast will throttle you down to 300 baud.

  7. #7
    Bill M.
    Guest

    Re: comcast throttling giganews

    On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:19:03 -0500, Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com
    wrote:

    >On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:22:25 -0800, "$Bill" <news@SPAMOLAtodbe.com>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com wrote:
    >>>
    >>> no absolutely sure about it. i have 16MBit, and up until about a month
    >>> ago, i coudl pull in about 2.2megabytes per. then for about a month i
    >>> was downloading some huge files. then one sad day i connected my
    >>> newsreader and i could never, ever get past about 1 MB per down, most
    >>> of the time dropping into the high K's. it looks like these jackasses
    >>> start throttling you and never unthrottle you. i swear that those
    >>> people at comcast are lost in space. as with everyone else in the
    >>> universe, once FIOS comes to town they hoover all of comcraps internet
    >>> customers. I just do not have FIOS yet.

    >>
    >>Can you D/L other files from other sites at higher speeds ? It could
    >>be the news server itself is the problem.
    >>
    >>Did you check your modem to see what it's throttled at ? It might not
    >>be giving you the 16Mb that it should.

    >
    >no i tested it with stunnel, and tested d/l speed on dsl reports.
    >accrding to reports I am getting 16MB, (at least close to ny). it's
    >the not the modem either. I think i read a report on dsl reports that
    >comcrap's throttling is now 100% everywhere. Maybe if you upgrade to
    >ultra (22MB), comcast will throttle you down to 300 baud.


    You read it wrong. I don't even know where to start. I guess maybe go
    back and read it again.

    --
    Bill

  8. #8
    f/fgeorge
    Guest

    Re: comcast throttling giganews

    On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:19:03 -0500, Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com
    wrote:

    >On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:22:25 -0800, "$Bill" <news@SPAMOLAtodbe.com>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com wrote:
    >>>
    >>> no absolutely sure about it. i have 16MBit, and up until about a month
    >>> ago, i coudl pull in about 2.2megabytes per. then for about a month i
    >>> was downloading some huge files. then one sad day i connected my
    >>> newsreader and i could never, ever get past about 1 MB per down, most
    >>> of the time dropping into the high K's. it looks like these jackasses
    >>> start throttling you and never unthrottle you. i swear that those
    >>> people at comcast are lost in space. as with everyone else in the
    >>> universe, once FIOS comes to town they hoover all of comcraps internet
    >>> customers. I just do not have FIOS yet.

    >>
    >>Can you D/L other files from other sites at higher speeds ? It could
    >>be the news server itself is the problem.
    >>
    >>Did you check your modem to see what it's throttled at ? It might not
    >>be giving you the 16Mb that it should.

    >
    >no i tested it with stunnel, and tested d/l speed on dsl reports.
    >accrding to reports I am getting 16MB, (at least close to ny). it's
    >the not the modem either. I think i read a report on dsl reports that
    >comcrap's throttling is now 100% everywhere. Maybe if you upgrade to
    >ultra (22MB), comcast will throttle you down to 300 baud.


    I have Comcast, have for many years now, and have never experienced
    throttling. I up and sownload several cd's worth of data every month
    and have no problems. I can almost always get the 6mb and the boost up
    to 12, or 16 or whatever, from most sites over a large downlaod. Now
    there are some sites I can not get over 2 or 3mb! But that is the same
    on my friends FIOS too. I used to use giganews, comcasts news server,
    I have been thru several. I now use EasyNews for all my newsgroup
    stuff, yes it is a pay for use service, but I can up and download with
    no throttling at all. I use EasyNews because of the retention and the
    small amount I have to pay to get it. EasyNews does limit its
    uploading to 200 posts in a 24 hour period, but that is not a problem
    for me.

  9. #9
    Bit Twister
    Guest

    Re: comcast throttling giganews

    On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:09:28 -0500, Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com wrote:
    >
    > no absolutely sure about it. i have 16MBit, and up until about a month
    > ago, i coudl pull in about 2.2megabytes per. then for about a month i
    > was downloading some huge files. then one sad day i connected my
    > newsreader and i could never, ever get past about 1 MB per down, most
    > of the time dropping into the high K's. it looks like these jackasses
    > start throttling you and never unthrottle you.


    When I had Comcast cable, the giganews server was throttled.

    > i swear that those
    > people at comcast are lost in space. as with everyone else in the
    > universe, once FIOS comes to town they hoover all of comcraps internet
    > customers. I just do not have FIOS yet.


    Now that I am on FIOS, news server not throttled. News server
    connection was overloaded.

    Solution: server only carries Big 8, text only, news group.




  10. #10
    Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com
    Guest

    Re: comcast throttling giganews

    On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:48:24 +0000 (UTC), Bit Twister
    <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

    >On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:09:28 -0500, Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com wrote:
    >>
    >> no absolutely sure about it. i have 16MBit, and up until about a month
    >> ago, i coudl pull in about 2.2megabytes per. then for about a month i
    >> was downloading some huge files. then one sad day i connected my
    >> newsreader and i could never, ever get past about 1 MB per down, most
    >> of the time dropping into the high K's. it looks like these jackasses
    >> start throttling you and never unthrottle you.

    >
    >When I had Comcast cable, the giganews server was throttled.
    >
    >> i swear that those
    >> people at comcast are lost in space. as with everyone else in the
    >> universe, once FIOS comes to town they hoover all of comcraps internet
    >> customers. I just do not have FIOS yet.

    >
    >Now that I am on FIOS, news server not throttled. News server
    >connection was overloaded.
    >

    i have no idea of what you are saying. FIOS is not a WAN, so how could
    FIOS be causing a news server to be overloaded, or is this one of
    'wired magazines' comcast stealth employees?

    >Solution: server only carries Big 8, text only, news group.
    >
    >


  11. #11
    Bit Twister
    Guest

    Re: comcast throttling giganews

    On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:17:10 -0500, Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com wrote:

    > i have no idea of what you are saying.


    I can see that.

    > FIOS is not a WAN,


    I never said it was.

    > so how could FIOS be causing a news server to be overloaded,


    More people on FIOS created more traffic and same people downloaded
    more files from news server at a faster rate. Faster pipe locally
    relieved local congestion. Congestion just moved upstream.

    > or is this one of 'wired magazines' comcast stealth employees?


    No way. Just another Verizon customer charged more money for less service.

  12. #12
    none
    Guest

    Re: comcast throttling giganews

    In article <gfb5m45r0maqkkfmgpgm65amuks3el4srb@4ax.com>,
    Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com wrote:

    > On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:58:53 GMT, f/fgeorge <ffgeorge@yourplace.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:19:39 -0500, Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com
    > >wrote:
    > >
    > >>comcast is throttling my giganews server. does anyone have any ideas
    > >>if this is permanent, applies only to nntp packets, or how comcast
    > >>does this.

    > >IF they really are throttling it is done at the main station and there
    > >is nothing you or I can do about it. Are you sure they are throttling?
    > >Could it be just a slow net and/or a slow connect point? Look here and
    > >then click on the closet to you and you can drill down to see if yours
    > >is slow. http://www.internettrafficreport.com/main.htm

    >
    > no absolutely sure about it. i have 16MBit, and up until about a month
    > ago, i coudl pull in about 2.2megabytes per. then for about a month i
    > was downloading some huge files. then one sad day i connected my
    > newsreader and i could never, ever get past about 1 MB per down, most
    > of the time dropping into the high K's. it looks like these jackasses
    > start throttling you and never unthrottle you. i swear that those
    > people at comcast are lost in space. as with everyone else in the
    > universe, once FIOS comes to town they hoover all of comcraps internet
    > customers. I just do not have FIOS yet.


    may or may not be related: Comcast discontinued their 2Gig/month
    usenet service (through giganews) about a month ago. I mention it as
    the time frame is similar. If you were not using that......nevermind.

  13. #13
    chbartel
    Guest

    Re: comcast throttling giganews

    On Jan 5, 8:09*pm, Fosco_Bleecker-Bagg...@shire.com wrote:
    > On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:58:53 GMT, f/fgeorge <ffgeo...@yourplace.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:19:39 -0500, Fosco_Bleecker-Bagg...@shire.com
    > >wrote:

    >
    > >>comcast is throttling my giganews server. does anyone have any ideas
    > >>if this is permanent, applies only to nntp packets, or how comcast
    > >>does this.

    > >IF they really are throttling it is done at the main station and there
    > >is nothing you or I can do about it. Are you sure they are throttling?
    > >Could it be just a slow net and/or a slow connect point? Look here and
    > >then click on the closet to you and you can drill down to see if yours
    > >is slow.http://www.internettrafficreport.com/main.htm

    >
    > no absolutely sure about it. i have 16MBit, and up until about a month
    > ago, i coudl pull in about 2.2megabytes per. then for about a month i
    > was downloading some huge files. then one sad day i connected my
    > newsreader and i could never, ever get past about 1 MB per down, most
    > of the time dropping into the high K's. it looks like these jackasses
    > start throttling you and never unthrottle you. i swear that those
    > people at comcast are lost in space. as with everyone else in the
    > universe, once FIOS comes to town they hoover all of comcraps internet
    > customers. I just do not have FIOS yet.


    I am certain they are throttling giganews as well.

    I have been able to get 1.2megabytes per second for 15 months, just
    the past two weeks, it has now dropped to about 900k!! Nothing has
    changed on my end.

    Maybe it's time to move to Uverse. I told myself as soon as sucky
    comcast started this crap I would move to something else.
    Here I pay for Comcasts highest level of service, and I am getting
    throttled? I will move off Comcast as soon as I can.


  14. #14
    Stefan
    Guest

    Re: comcast throttling giganews

    chbartel <craig@crager-bartels.com> wrote in news:0068bc5e-886d-4b71-bbfb-
    ea8cf36a426e@r28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com:

    > On Jan 5, 8:09*pm, Fosco_Bleecker-Bagg...@shire.com wrote:
    >> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:58:53 GMT, f/fgeorge <ffgeo...@yourplace.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >> >On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:19:39 -0500, Fosco_Bleecker-Bagg...@shire.com
    >> >wrote:

    >>
    >> >>comcast is throttling my giganews server. does anyone have any ideas
    >> >>if this is permanent, applies only to nntp packets, or how comcast
    >> >>does this.
    >> >IF they really are throttling it is done at the main station and there
    >> >is nothing you or I can do about it. Are you sure they are throttling?
    >> >Could it be just a slow net and/or a slow connect point? Look here and
    >> >then click on the closet to you and you can drill down to see if yours
    >> >is slow.http://www.internettrafficreport.com/main.htm

    >>
    >> no absolutely sure about it. i have 16MBit, and up until about a month
    >> ago, i coudl pull in about 2.2megabytes per. then for about a month i
    >> was downloading some huge files. then one sad day i connected my
    >> newsreader and i could never, ever get past about 1 MB per down, most
    >> of the time dropping into the high K's. it looks like these jackasses
    >> start throttling you and never unthrottle you. i swear that those
    >> people at comcast are lost in space. as with everyone else in the
    >> universe, once FIOS comes to town they hoover all of comcraps internet
    >> customers. I just do not have FIOS yet.

    >
    > I am certain they are throttling giganews as well.
    >
    > I have been able to get 1.2megabytes per second for 15 months, just
    > the past two weeks, it has now dropped to about 900k!! Nothing has
    > changed on my end.
    >
    > Maybe it's time to move to Uverse. I told myself as soon as sucky
    > comcast started this crap I would move to something else.
    > Here I pay for Comcasts highest level of service, and I am getting
    > throttled? I will move off Comcast as soon as I can.


    Comcast was recently busted by the FCC for throttling P2P connections, but
    they're appealing that ruling, so who knows what they're currently doing
    within their network. Cox Communications announced that they're testing a
    throttling arrangement in Kansas & Arkansas, but I'm sure it will find its
    way to the rest of their network shortly. The following article may or may
    not be of interest...

    http://www.newsadmin.com/usenet_comm...y_02092009.asp

  15. #15
    Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com
    Guest

    Re: comcast throttling giganews the official deal

    On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:19:39 -0500, Fosco_Bleecker-Baggins@shire.com
    wrote:

    >comcast is throttling my giganews server. does anyone have any ideas
    >if this is permanent, applies only to nntp packets, or how comcast
    >does this.


    Comcast Internet throttling is up and running
    Cunning plan replaces P2P blocking
    By Egan Orion
    Tuesday, 6 January 2009, 11:08

    COMCAST, the second-largest US cable television and Internet
    communications service provider, has a new broadband traffic
    throttling scheme installed and operating in all of its markets.

    The ISP's new regime for restricting its customers' bandwidth
    utilisation replaces its former stealthy practice of arbitrarily
    blocking subscribers' peer-to-peer (P2P) upload traffic, which was
    criticised by the FCC last year after it was exposed by the Associated
    Press and others.

    Comcast's filing with FCC (PDF) says it has put in new hardware and
    software technology at its Regional Network Routers locations to
    effect this cunning traffic management plan.

    Its network throttling implements a two-tier packet queueing system at
    the routers, driven by two trigger conditions.

    Comcast's first traffic throttling trigger is tripped by using more
    than 70 per cent of your maximum downstream or upstream bandwidth for
    more than 15 minutes.

    Its second traffic throttling trigger is tripped when the Cable Modem
    Termination System you're hooked-up to along with up to 15,000 other
    Comcast subscribers gets congested, and your traffic is somehow
    identified as being responsible.

    Tripping either of Comcast's high bandwidth usage rate triggers
    results in throttling for at least 15 minutes, or until your average
    bandwidth utilisation rate drops below 50 per cent for 15 minutes.

    The Comcast two-tier traffic throttling system enforces different
    quality-of-service levels. Internet packets to and from a specific
    subscriber are assigned 'Priority Best Effort' (PBE) queueing by
    default, and the traffic rate is throttled by switching packets to
    lower priority 'Best Effort' (BE) queueing.

    Comcast uses a bus analogy to explain how its two-tier traffic
    throttling system works:

    "If there is no congestion, packets from a user in a BE state should
    have little trouble getting on the bus when they arrive at the bus
    stop. If, on the other hand, there is congestion in a particular
    instance, the bus may become filled by packets in a PBE state before
    any BE packets can get on. In that situation, the BE packets would
    have to wait for the next bus that is not filled by PBE packets."

    According to the company, upstream and downstream traffic is managed
    separately, and its router packet queueing increments - the waiting
    time between each 'bus' in its analogy - are two milliseconds, or
    1/500th of a second.

    Comcast says that a throttled subscriber's connection that is forced
    into the lower BE quality of service queue "may or may not result in
    the user's traffic being delayed or, in extreme cases, dropped before
    PBE traffic is dropped."

    Thus, Comcast's latest traffic throttling method can lead to transfers
    being blocked, too. But only in 'extreme cases' it says, so that's
    alright then.

    Comcast has also imposed a monthly 250GB bandwidth usage cap on all of
    its customers, and it will, after one warning, terminate service for
    one year to those who exceed that cap twice within a six-month period.

    So you punters who signed up with Comcast as your ISP can be assured
    that the company will deliver only about half of the maximum bandwidth
    it advertises, on a consistent basis.

    L'Inq
    DSL Reports

  16. #16
    stonebergftw
    Guest

    Giganews BLOCK?

    I know this is an old thread, but after hitting 450 GB this month, I can't even access giganews on Comcast through port 563.

    I can connect fine through non SSL 119, but no dice on 563 or 443. Anyone else experience this? Is this even legal?

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