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  1. #1
    Bob
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    Need home Cable/DSL wireless router suggestions

    It's finally gotten to where I need to add wireless to my home network.
    I intend to replace my extremely old Linksys BEFSR41 wired router
    rather than simply adding a wireless router connected to the WAN port
    on the BEFRS41.

    I'd like to start out initially with the built-in firmware in the new
    router and at some later point in time, replace it with one of the Open
    Source router firmware choices that give me greater control over
    everything.

    Thanks,

    Bob

  2. #2
    ray
    Guest

    Re: Need home Cable/DSL wireless router suggestions

    "Bob" <tooslow42@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:MPG.2393d0024694b1fe9896e8@news.motzarella.org...
    > It's finally gotten to where I need to add wireless to my home network.
    > I intend to replace my extremely old Linksys BEFSR41 wired router
    > rather than simply adding a wireless router connected to the WAN port
    > on the BEFRS41.
    >
    > I'd like to start out initially with the built-in firmware in the new
    > router and at some later point in time, replace it with one of the Open
    > Source router firmware choices that give me greater control over
    > everything.
    >

    I use the Linksys WAG200G - and i am happy with it.



  3. #3
    Bob
    Guest

    Re: Need home Cable/DSL wireless router suggestions

    In article <492b351a@news.stben.net>, raymond.schmit@piscarlet.be
    says...
    > "Bob" <tooslow42@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:MPG.2393d0024694b1fe9896e8@news.motzarella.org...
    > > It's finally gotten to where I need to add wireless to my home network.
    > > I intend to replace my extremely old Linksys BEFSR41 wired router
    > > rather than simply adding a wireless router connected to the WAN port
    > > on the BEFRS41.
    > >
    > > I'd like to start out initially with the built-in firmware in the new
    > > router and at some later point in time, replace it with one of the Open
    > > Source router firmware choices that give me greater control over
    > > everything.
    > >

    > I use the Linksys WAG200G - and i am happy with it.
    >
    >
    >

    Thanks for the reply. Does anyone else have any suggestions?

    Thanks,

    Bob

  4. #4
    GlowingBlueMist
    Guest

    Re: Need home Cable/DSL wireless router suggestions

    "Bob" <tooslow42@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:MPG.239902788fb22d579896ea@news.motzarella.org...
    > In article <492b351a@news.stben.net>, raymond.schmit@piscarlet.be
    > says...
    >> "Bob" <tooslow42@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.2393d0024694b1fe9896e8@news.motzarella.org...
    >> > It's finally gotten to where I need to add wireless to my home network.
    >> > I intend to replace my extremely old Linksys BEFSR41 wired router
    >> > rather than simply adding a wireless router connected to the WAN port
    >> > on the BEFRS41.
    >> >
    >> > I'd like to start out initially with the built-in firmware in the new
    >> > router and at some later point in time, replace it with one of the Open
    >> > Source router firmware choices that give me greater control over
    >> > everything.
    >> >

    >> I use the Linksys WAG200G - and i am happy with it.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > Thanks for the reply. Does anyone else have any suggestions?
    >


    A good place to start would be to check out the following link:
    http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Index:FAQ
    and click on "1.5 Which router should I buy".



  5. #5
    ray
    Guest

    Re: Need home Cable/DSL wireless router suggestions

    "GlowingBlueMist" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
    news:492f9346$0$33682$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com...
    > "Bob" <tooslow42@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:MPG.239902788fb22d579896ea@news.motzarella.org...
    >> In article <492b351a@news.stben.net>, raymond.schmit@piscarlet.be
    >> says...
    >>> "Bob" <tooslow42@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    >>> news:MPG.2393d0024694b1fe9896e8@news.motzarella.org...
    >>> > It's finally gotten to where I need to add wireless to my home
    >>> > network.
    >>> > I intend to replace my extremely old Linksys BEFSR41 wired router
    >>> > rather than simply adding a wireless router connected to the WAN port
    >>> > on the BEFRS41.
    >>> >
    >>> > I'd like to start out initially with the built-in firmware in the new
    >>> > router and at some later point in time, replace it with one of the
    >>> > Open
    >>> > Source router firmware choices that give me greater control over
    >>> > everything.
    >>> >
    >>> I use the Linksys WAG200G - and i am happy with it.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >> Thanks for the reply. Does anyone else have any suggestions?
    >>

    >
    > A good place to start would be to check out the following link:
    > http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Index:FAQ
    > and click on "1.5 Which router should I buy".

    May be i am wrong, but the link you gave point to routers.
    Bob asks about: home Cable/DSL wireless router suggestions
    My solution was a ADSL modem including a wireless an lan router. Linksys
    WAG200G connects itself to the ISP by ADSL and provide internet for 4 pc
    connected thru lan and xx pc connected thru wireless.



  6. #6
    Bob
    Guest

    Re: Need home Cable/DSL wireless router suggestions

    In article <493082fa@news.stben.net>, raymond.schmit@piscarlet.be
    says...
    > "GlowingBlueMist" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
    > news:492f9346$0$33682$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com...
    > > "Bob" <tooslow42@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    > > news:MPG.239902788fb22d579896ea@news.motzarella.org...
    > >> In article <492b351a@news.stben.net>, raymond.schmit@piscarlet.be
    > >> says...
    > >>> "Bob" <tooslow42@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    > >>> news:MPG.2393d0024694b1fe9896e8@news.motzarella.org...
    > >>> > It's finally gotten to where I need to add wireless to my home
    > >>> > network.
    > >>> > I intend to replace my extremely old Linksys BEFSR41 wired router
    > >>> > rather than simply adding a wireless router connected to the WAN port
    > >>> > on the BEFRS41.
    > >>> >
    > >>> > I'd like to start out initially with the built-in firmware in the new
    > >>> > router and at some later point in time, replace it with one of the
    > >>> > Open
    > >>> > Source router firmware choices that give me greater control over
    > >>> > everything.
    > >>> >
    > >>> I use the Linksys WAG200G - and i am happy with it.
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >> Thanks for the reply. Does anyone else have any suggestions?
    > >>

    > >
    > > A good place to start would be to check out the following link:
    > > http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Index:FAQ
    > > and click on "1.5 Which router should I buy".

    > May be i am wrong, but the link you gave point to routers.
    > Bob asks about: home Cable/DSL wireless router suggestions
    > My solution was a ADSL modem including a wireless an lan router. Linksys
    > WAG200G connects itself to the ISP by ADSL and provide internet for 4 pc
    > connected thru lan and xx pc connected thru wireless.
    >
    >
    >

    Ah, I see the confusion. Where I live, RoadRunner won't allow me to
    supply my own cable modem. My current BEFSR41 is labeled, "Etherfast
    Cable/DSL Router."

    Bob

  7. #7
    GlowingBlueMist
    Guest

    Re: Need home Cable/DSL wireless router suggestions

    "Bob" <tooslow42@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:MPG.239a56a815c267f79896eb@news.motzarella.org...
    > In article <493082fa@news.stben.net>, raymond.schmit@piscarlet.be
    > says...
    >> "GlowingBlueMist" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
    >> news:492f9346$0$33682$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com...
    >> > "Bob" <tooslow42@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    >> > news:MPG.239902788fb22d579896ea@news.motzarella.org...
    >> >> In article <492b351a@news.stben.net>, raymond.schmit@piscarlet.be
    >> >> says...
    >> >>> "Bob" <tooslow42@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    >> >>> news:MPG.2393d0024694b1fe9896e8@news.motzarella.org...
    >> >>> > It's finally gotten to where I need to add wireless to my home
    >> >>> > network.
    >> >>> > I intend to replace my extremely old Linksys BEFSR41 wired router
    >> >>> > rather than simply adding a wireless router connected to the WAN
    >> >>> > port
    >> >>> > on the BEFRS41.
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> > I'd like to start out initially with the built-in firmware in the
    >> >>> > new
    >> >>> > router and at some later point in time, replace it with one of the
    >> >>> > Open
    >> >>> > Source router firmware choices that give me greater control over
    >> >>> > everything.
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> I use the Linksys WAG200G - and i am happy with it.
    >> >>>
    >> >>>
    >> >>>
    >> >> Thanks for the reply. Does anyone else have any suggestions?
    >> >>
    >> >
    >> > A good place to start would be to check out the following link:
    >> > http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Index:FAQ
    >> > and click on "1.5 Which router should I buy".

    >> May be i am wrong, but the link you gave point to routers.
    >> Bob asks about: home Cable/DSL wireless router suggestions
    >> My solution was a ADSL modem including a wireless an lan router. Linksys
    >> WAG200G connects itself to the ISP by ADSL and provide internet for 4 pc
    >> connected thru lan and xx pc connected thru wireless.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > Ah, I see the confusion. Where I live, RoadRunner won't allow me to
    > supply my own cable modem. My current BEFSR41 is labeled, "Etherfast
    > Cable/DSL Router."
    >
    > Bob

    Bob, if you live in the USA the cable companies do allow you to use cable
    modems not supplied by them, not that they like it. In fact many of them
    actively try to keep you from purchasing your own unit so they can keep
    their hands deeper into your wallet.

    Try calling your DSL help desk and request the URL to their compatible DSL
    modem list and see what they give you. If they continue to give you the old
    "use ours or get stuffed" routine I'm sure other RoadRunner users can point
    you to a list. You may need to supply the city or state where you live as
    RoadRunner may not use the same connection methods in all areas. True not
    all brands/models connect to DSL the same way, some use PPPoE and others use
    PPPoA but if it's on their "approved list" at least it should have the
    required options available provided you can figure out the configuration
    menu's.

    What they may say is that they won't support the models on the list (as in
    no help in how to configure it to work) but that they are compatible and can
    be used. That just means you need to copy down or print out the settings in
    your current setup so you can duplicate it in your new model. Many of the
    new units will automatically seek out the DSL feed and try to match the DSL
    companies requirements for you. If tech support refuses to provide a link
    to a list of approved DSL modem for your area I'm sure another RoadRunner
    user here can point you to one if you ask.

    By using a separate cable modem and router you would have a better chance of
    finding compatible third party software in the router. The best thing is
    that you would know that if you toast the router during testing your can
    still hook one computer directly to the cable modem until you get the router
    fixed or replaced. Who knows with a little luck you will find a unit on
    RoadRunner's list that is also on the WRT's list of approved devices.



  8. #8
    John Carter
    Guest

    Re: Need home Cable/DSL wireless router suggestions

    "GlowingBlueMist" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in
    news:4930b36f$0$33685$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com:

    > "Bob" <tooslow42@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:MPG.239a56a815c267f79896eb@news.motzarella.org...
    >> In article <493082fa@news.stben.net>, raymond.schmit@piscarlet.be
    >> says...
    >>> "GlowingBlueMist" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:492f9346$0$33682$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com...
    >>> > "Bob" <tooslow42@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    >>> > news:MPG.239902788fb22d579896ea@news.motzarella.org...
    >>> >> In article <492b351a@news.stben.net>,
    >>> >> raymond.schmit@piscarlet.be says...
    >>> >>> "Bob" <tooslow42@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    >>> >>> news:MPG.2393d0024694b1fe9896e8@news.motzarella.org...
    >>> >>> > It's finally gotten to where I need to add wireless to my
    >>> >>> > home network.
    >>> >>> > I intend to replace my extremely old Linksys BEFSR41 wired
    >>> >>> > router rather than simply adding a wireless router
    >>> >>> > connected to the WAN port
    >>> >>> > on the BEFRS41.
    >>> >>> >
    >>> >>> > I'd like to start out initially with the built-in firmware
    >>> >>> > in the new
    >>> >>> > router and at some later point in time, replace it with
    >>> >>> > one of the Open
    >>> >>> > Source router firmware choices that give me greater
    >>> >>> > control over everything.
    >>> >>> >
    >>> >>> I use the Linksys WAG200G - and i am happy with it.
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>>



    <<<<<snip>>>>
    >
    >
    >

    In my experience with RR in Western Ohio, they have a decent cable
    modem. Why do you want to add expense? They will give you NO
    discount because you have a cable modem. I also was told that they
    use the modem MAC address in some fashion as a security thing - but
    no real explanation as to how they do it, so I don't know if that's
    an urban legend or not. Bottom line: if it's your modem and something
    goes wrong, they will wash their hsnds of it or worse, send a tech
    out and charge you thru the nose. If its their modem and you have a
    router, and you suspect something is awry with the router, at least
    you can connect directly to the modem and troubleshoot. Simplify
    your life - use teir modem.

    My understanding of your original question is that you want a
    wireless capability in your network and later you want to perhaps try
    some third-party open source firmware for this wireless router. If
    this is the case, then users of third party firmware (DD-WRT, TOMATO,
    etc) use the Linksys WRT54G/WRT54GS product. There is a catch
    however, and that is a WRT54G router must be one of the Versions 1
    thru 4 of that router, which use the Broadcom processor/chipset in
    them. Currently, I believe the WRT54G is at version 7 or 8. You
    might find one on eBay , butI have not been able to do so myself. I
    have a WRT54G V6 and a WRT54G V2. I run vanilla Linksys on the V6
    and TOMATO on the V2. With the TOMATO, I have boosted the
    transmitter up to 85mW so that my wife can see 5 bars on it in her
    office which gets only 1 bar with the V6.

    This has been my experience, there may be others that run open source
    firmware, but I am not aware of them.

    John

  9. #9
    PasBesoin@gmail.com
    Guest

    Re: Need home Cable/DSL wireless router suggestions

    If it is still available, the Linksys WRT54GL was specifically
    designed and offered to support firmware upgrading, after feedback
    from the community to Linksys when the 54G went from v4 to v5 or
    somthing like that (I forget the exact version transition). (As I
    understand it, the "L" stands for "Linux".)

    As I recall, the main issue with the newer versions of the 54G was
    that, in a cost saving measure, Linksys reduced the amount of onboard
    RAM. DD-WRT, for example, initially didn't fit into that reduced
    footprint.

    The 54GL bumped the onboard RAM back up (from 2 MB to 4, I seem to
    recall, but I could be wrong).

    Concurrently, DD-WRT developed a "light/reduced" version of its
    firmware that would fit into the smaller memory footprint of the newer
    versions of the 54G. However, my guess is that, if you want a G
    router, going with the 54GL and the non-light firmware would be a
    better bet.

    I believe the GS may also have a larger onboard memory, but I'm not
    familiar with it. I seem to recall some limitation -- perhaps it was
    the 54 that had a different processor.

    DD-WRT is now supported on a number of Linksys draft N routers. You
    don't have to stick with a G router to use it. However, the Linksys N
    routers, in my browsing, appear to be receiving very mixed reviews. A
    number of commentors/reviewers want to associate this with Linksys'
    acquisition by Cisco.

    Wikipedia is a good resource for details on specific Linksys routers
    -- there's a page that summarizes and tabulates the information.


    On Nov 29 2008, 1:36*am, John Carter <m...@mymailsvr.org> wrote:
    > "GlowingBlueMist" <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote innews:4930b36f$0$33685$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com:
    >


  10. #10
    WeedWacker
    Guest

    Re: Need home Cable/DSL wireless router suggestions

    John wrote: This has been my experience, there may be others that run open
    source firmware, but I am not aware of them.



    There are others, including one from Asus that is designed specifically to
    run open source firmware.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833320023

    I run it with Tomato and it is flawless.

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