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    does this support Burke's theory?

    U.S. wading deeper into banking industry




    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28880095/


    "In his confirmation hearing last week, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said the White House is working on a new bank rescue plan. He was short on details, but the massive scope of the problem has prompted talk that the administration may be planning to "nationalize" a large portion of the banking industry."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    U.S. wading deeper into banking industry




    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28880095/


    "In his confirmation hearing last week, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said the White House is working on a new bank rescue plan. He was short on details, but the massive scope of the problem has prompted talk that the administration may be planning to "nationalize" a large portion of the banking industry."

    Is it globalization? Yes. Is Globalization part of the New World Order? Yes

    Burke, or anyone for that matter, doesn't really have ownership over those that oppose the agenda of the NWO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UOD View Post
    Is it globalization? Yes. Is Globalization part of the New World Order? Yes

    Burke, or anyone for that matter, doesn't really have ownership over those that oppose the agenda of the NWO.
    i understand that this is not, per say, burkes, but he is the only person (and a few others on here) that posts a lot of links like this, so i used his name.

    no offense or ownership intended.
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    Shoot when we went into the business of bailing out banks etc we started nationalizing things. Obama is continuing what started with President Bush regarding this bailout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    but he is the only person (and a few others on here)
    You just proved yourself wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YARDofSTUF View Post
    You just proved yourself wrong.
    well if i am gonna be proved wrong, nobody better to do it than myself.
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    obama is no different then bush..or should i say bush was more liberal then he should have been

    bailouts = socialism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosthunter View Post
    bailouts = socialism
    Bailouts are hardly tantamount to socialism. Quite the reverse, actually. They demonstrate the level of corruption in our government, a de facto corporatocracy. Socialism would benefit the masses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosthunter View Post
    obama is no different then bush..or should i say bush was more liberal then he should have been

    bailouts = socialism

    I would agree with you save for one thing....we the people don't own our government, the corporations do.

    True socialism espouses the distribution of wealth....I don't know of any individual American that will benefit from these bailouts although I do see certain corporations that will.

    EDIT: Forgot to mention, in principle, we agree....bailouts are bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosthunter View Post
    obama is no different then bush..or should i say bush was more liberal then he should have been

    bailouts = socialism
    More like Bailouts = fascism

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    Quote Originally Posted by David View Post
    Bailouts are hardly tantamount to socialism. Quite the reverse, actually. They demonstrate the level of corruption in our government, a de facto corporatocracy. Socialism would benefit the masses.

    I hope all is well by you,
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    actually socialism never benefits masses, socialists thinks it does but in the end just a way of controlling the masses

    either way bailouts are bad, all these companies and banks need to fail and our country needs to start over is the only way to fix it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burke View Post
    More like Bailouts = fascism


    for the first time in a long time i would agree with you

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    Echoes of Gary Hart on September 12, 2001

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosthunter View Post
    for the first time in a long time i would agree with you
    That would be a flip flop.

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    And of course, the globalist Soros.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/49b1654a-e...0779fd2ac.html

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    I'm still all for a NWO, since the past and current WO have been and are **** IMO. Just not THE NWO "the elite" would like to see.

    We have global problems that prompt global solutions, and global solutions can only come from some sort of global forum or government. In this day and age of transportation and communication mankind has no other choice than to coordinate globally. Just not in a global enslavement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeedOfChaos View Post
    I'm still all for a NWO, since the past and current WO have been and are **** IMO. Just not THE NWO "the elite" would like to see.

    We have global problems that prompt global solutions, and global solutions can only come from some sort of global forum or government. In this day and age of transportation and communication mankind has no other choice than to coordinate globally. Just not in a global enslavement.

    1. Colonial wars...we need to abandon that concept.

    2. Co-habitation...It's ok to co-exist, it's ok for us to be capitalist pigs while another country may wish to be hard line communists. Imperialism is dead.

    3. Respect all sovereign nations, no one submits to globalization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UOD View Post
    1. Colonial wars...we need to abandon that concept.

    2. Co-habitation...It's ok to co-exist, it's ok for us to be capitalist pigs while another country may wish to be hard line communists. Imperialism is dead.

    3. Respect all sovereign nations, no one submits to globalization.
    re 1. - !!!

    re 2 - I disagree in a certain sense. No, it's not okay for you to be capitalist pigs if that means capitalism like in the past and present - ripping other nations off for your own advantage (the entire west is guilty of that, not just the US of course). No, it's not okay for hard line communists to silence all critics and lead their population into starvation just because they feel like it.

    I'm not wanting for all parts of the globe to be equal in all matters of policy at all. I couldn't care less for the car safety regulations in the US, Namibia or Indonesia. I couldn't care less what you teach your children in schools - as long as it isn't hate towards others and a closed mind.

    I just want a common - democratic - cause of mankind towards certain global issues. Climate. Fair trade. Fair reward for hard work - wherever you are. Basic Human rights. Peace. The rest is minor detail and can be filled in by local governments to their own taste. Be they democracies, republics, theocracies, despotism, technocracies or whatever crazy form we can come up with. To be honest, I don't care if a single person dictates the future of a nation, as long as certain minimum standards are met. Like nobody gets shot just because they said something others don't want to hear. But if people wish for a King to rule a country, why shouldn't he, as long as he treats the people good? Also, it's not okay for any country to pollute the planet that we all live on much more than others.

    It's just when leaders truly abuse their people that the global organization, government, forum, or whatever should step in a remove that - if it's the people's will.

    Yes, imperialism is dead or belongs dead, anyway. No one nation or continent or bloc should rule all others.

    re 3. - I agree, but with the limits outlined in 2, which are quite severe.
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    SoC, who would enforce these ideas of common/democratic global issues ? Globalizing government, increasing their power just increases their reach/role to a degree where it becomes much harder for any relatively small (on a global scale) group of people to disagree... Therefore removing the ability to check/counterbalance any wrongdoing.

    Any form of global forum/government would just amplify the issue of imposing "socially acceptable" rules, limiting freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeedOfChaos View Post
    re 1. - !!!

    re 2 - I disagree in a certain sense. No, it's not okay for you to be capitalist pigs if that means capitalism like in the past and present - ripping other nations off for your own advantage (the entire west is guilty of that, not just the US of course). No, it's not okay for hard line communists to silence all critics and lead their population into starvation just because they feel like it.

    I'm not wanting for all parts of the globe to be equal in all matters of policy at all. I couldn't care less for the car safety regulations in the US, Namibia or Indonesia. I couldn't care less what you teach your children in schools - as long as it isn't hate towards others and a closed mind.

    I just want a common - democratic - cause of mankind towards certain global issues. Climate. Fair trade. Fair reward for hard work - wherever you are. Basic Human rights. Peace. The rest is minor detail and can be filled in by local governments to their own taste. Be they democracies, republics, theocracies, despotism, technocracies or whatever crazy form we can come up with. To be honest, I don't care if a single person dictates the future of a nation, as long as certain minimum standards are met. Like nobody gets shot just because they said something others don't want to hear. But if people wish for a King to rule a country, why shouldn't he, as long as he treats the people good? Also, it's not okay for any country to pollute the planet that we all live on much more than others.

    It's just when leaders truly abuse their people that the global organization, government, forum, or whatever should step in a remove that - if it's the people's will.

    Yes, imperialism is dead or belongs dead, anyway. No one nation or continent or bloc should rule all others.

    re 3. - I agree, but with the limits outlined in 2, which are quite severe.


    Some folks do not want freedom or democracy. they want peace, stability, and safety. I have several Iraqis that work for me and guess what they all agree on? they want a good dictator that will keep them safe from eachother. The UAE and Qatar are prime examples of peaceful dictatorships. Even the terrorists that live side by side the Americans in Qatar know not to start any shenanigans.

    Freedom will come to those that want it on their time table. Look at the fall of the Soviet Union. Yes, the west did help to foster the conditions for the collapse but that's it....no wars were fought, no shots were fired. I dare say that Russia's current form of government is much more desirable than it's former self.

    We can't play world police...there will always be rogue regimes and criminals. We can't play world police force alone. Our intervention is seen as illegal occupation.


    Let me ask you this, how should the world handle North Korea?

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