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  1. #1
    Chilly8
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked


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    I can believe it. Some IT firms are not exactly the brightest around.

    I have mentioned many times people circumventing firewalls to get to
    my online radio station (or any other). Well, I have found that someone
    at one consulting firm in Seattle has managed to circumvent the office
    firewall and use their Comcast cable modem account to get to my station.

    I noticed in the logs where there was one connection to my web site from
    the network to my web site from this Seattle based consulting firm,
    followed by a connection, only a few seconds later from a Comcast
    cable modem, which went to one of my radio station feeds.

    This PROVES that NO security system is one hundred percent foolproof.
    When someone as a IT CONSULTING FIRM that is supposed to KNOW about
    security can bypass the firewall and listen to my station, it shows
    that any firewall system, even the so-called "secure" firewalls
    touted by Leythos, are not infallable. If an IT consulting firm
    that specialises in firewalls cannot plug all the holes in their
    filtering system, it shows that no filtering system is 100 percent
    infallable.

    All the boss at that firm will know is that someone is making a
    connection to their Comcast cable modem, but will not know they
    are tuning into an online radio station. The logs I have indicate,
    within the past week, there has been a total of 3 hours and 28
    minutes of listening time coming from that one consulting firm
    in Seattle. On Friday, USA time, there was a total of 3 hours
    and 28 minutes of connect time from this consulting group's
    computer network to my online radio station.

    The all-Christmas music programing we are running now (when
    not doing any live programming) is proving to be quite
    popular, and we have seen at-work listening go through
    the roof, since we commenced it on Halloween day.






  2. #2
    Leythos
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked

    In article <gf8lla$mg0$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    > I have mentioned many times people circumventing firewalls to get to
    > my online radio station (or any other). Well, I have found that someone
    > at one consulting firm in Seattle has managed to circumvent the office
    > firewall and use their Comcast cable modem account to get to my station.
    >


    And in doing so, there is a glaring path out of the firewall to a
    residential connection that has no business reason.

    Most of the Security Professionals spot this activity in seconds and it
    is blocked, but it's blocked by default in a properly secured network
    anyway.

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  3. #3
    Chilly8
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked

    Leythos wrote:
    > In article <gf8lla$mg0$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >> I have mentioned many times people circumventing firewalls to get to
    >> my online radio station (or any other). Well, I have found that someone
    >> at one consulting firm in Seattle has managed to circumvent the office
    >> firewall and use their Comcast cable modem account to get to my station.
    >>

    >
    > And in doing so, there is a glaring path out of the firewall to a
    > residential connection that has no business reason.
    >
    > Most of the Security Professionals spot this activity in seconds and it
    > is blocked, but it's blocked by default in a properly secured network
    > anyway.
    >



    Well, this was from an IT consulting firm that specalises in firewalls.
    The fact that someone was able to get past the firewall proves that even
    a so-called "secure" network is infallable.

    One would think that a IT consulting firm specialising in network
    security would be able to secure their own office network. Then again,
    like I said, even a "secure" network is not 100 percent infallable.

  4. #4
    Spender
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked

    On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:51:15 +0100, Chilly8 <chilly8@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >This PROVES that NO security system is one hundred percent foolproof.
    >When someone as a IT CONSULTING FIRM that is supposed to KNOW about
    >security can bypass the firewall and listen to my station, it shows
    >that any firewall system, even the so-called "secure" firewalls
    >touted by Leythos, are not infallable. If an IT consulting firm
    >that specialises in firewalls cannot plug all the holes in their
    >filtering system, it shows that no filtering system is 100 percent
    >infallable.


    And it doesn't even occur to you to guess that the network administrator at
    this "IT CONSULTING FIRM" may be the one who is listening to internet
    radio?

    You've proven that the person who sets up and maintains a firewall can
    bypass the firewall. I didn't know that that has ever been disputed... but
    you proved it anyway.

    Next big question: Can a network administrator walk into the wiring closet
    and unplug all the routers, thereby disabling the network?

    I don't know... sounds tricky.

  5. #5
    Leythos
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked

    In article <gf8pkf$9rm$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    > Leythos wrote:
    > > In article <gf8lla$mg0$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    > >> I have mentioned many times people circumventing firewalls to get to
    > >> my online radio station (or any other). Well, I have found that someone
    > >> at one consulting firm in Seattle has managed to circumvent the office
    > >> firewall and use their Comcast cable modem account to get to my station.
    > >>

    > >
    > > And in doing so, there is a glaring path out of the firewall to a
    > > residential connection that has no business reason.
    > >
    > > Most of the Security Professionals spot this activity in seconds and it
    > > is blocked, but it's blocked by default in a properly secured network
    > > anyway.

    >
    > Well, this was from an IT consulting firm that specalises in firewalls.
    > The fact that someone was able to get past the firewall proves that even
    > a so-called "secure" network is infallable.


    No, it doesn't. Many places allow certain ports open, some don't apply
    the same rules for secure networks as others.

    A company that specializes in Firewalls is not any more secure than a
    company that specializes in Paint or Flowers - it's about their rules
    and desire to limit connections. They could allow streaming audio as a
    general rule.

    > One would think that a IT consulting firm specialising in network
    > security would be able to secure their own office network. Then again,
    > like I said, even a "secure" network is not 100 percent infallable.


    Maybe they have not found a reason to secure their network against all
    traffic that isn't business necessary. Since you don't know your
    assumptions are, well, just your head up your ass again.

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  6. #6
    Chilly8
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked


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    "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.23822f08e18ba5799896cb@us.news.astraweb.com...
    > In article <gf8pkf$9rm$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >> Leythos wrote:
    >> > In article <gf8lla$mg0$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >> >> I have mentioned many times people circumventing firewalls to get to
    >> >> my online radio station (or any other). Well, I have found that
    >> >> someone
    >> >> at one consulting firm in Seattle has managed to circumvent the office
    >> >> firewall and use their Comcast cable modem account to get to my
    >> >> station.
    >> >>
    >> >
    >> > And in doing so, there is a glaring path out of the firewall to a
    >> > residential connection that has no business reason.
    >> >
    >> > Most of the Security Professionals spot this activity in seconds and it
    >> > is blocked, but it's blocked by default in a properly secured network
    >> > anyway.

    >>
    >> Well, this was from an IT consulting firm that specalises in firewalls.
    >> The fact that someone was able to get past the firewall proves that even
    >> a so-called "secure" network is infallable.

    >
    > No, it doesn't. Many places allow certain ports open, some don't apply
    > the same rules for secure networks as others.
    >
    > A company that specializes in Firewalls is not any more secure than a
    > company that specializes in Paint or Flowers - it's about their rules
    > and desire to limit connections. They could allow streaming audio as a
    > general rule.
    >
    >> One would think that a IT consulting firm specialising in network
    >> security would be able to secure their own office network. Then again,
    >> like I said, even a "secure" network is not 100 percent infallable.



    There is one insecure network in Saudi Arabia that people are
    using to bypass workplace filtering, among other things. And
    the owners of the colocation center in Jeddah don't care
    about insecure machines on their network. The admins at
    that centre will simply say "That is not illegal activity in
    Saudi Arabia" and hang up on you. Simply put, if it
    does not violate Saudi law, the will just tell you to take
    a long walk off a a short pier. And they are right to do
    so. Becuase the machines are in SAUDI ARABIA, they
    are ONLY subject to SAUDI laws, and the owners of
    that colocation centre are NOT SUBJECT to prosecution
    OUTSIDE of Saudi Arabia. So if someone just happens
    to use any machine there to bypass workplace filtering,
    which the colocation centre owners apparently KNOW is
    happening, they owners CANNOT BE PROSECUTED
    in the Untied States becuase, as a Saudi-based company,
    there are ONLY subject to SAUDI laws.

    I found that there is a LOT of listening coming from
    insecure proxies on that network. And someone on youjr
    network right now could be using an insecure machine on
    that network, and you would never know what they are
    up to.



  7. #7
    Leythos
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked

    In article <gfgkkh$o26$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    > And someone on youjr
    > network right now could be using an insecure machine on
    > that network, and you would never know what they are
    > up to.
    >


    Again, yes, there are improperly configured networks, there are
    companies that don't care, there are demons in movies too.

    On a properly secured network your crap can't be reached.

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  8. #8
    Jimmy Ribbitt
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked


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    "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.2385df974510f8559896d2@us.news.astraweb.com...
    > In article <gfgkkh$o26$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >> And someone on youjr
    >> network right now could be using an insecure machine on
    >> that network, and you would never know what they are
    >> up to.
    >>

    >
    > Again, yes, there are improperly configured networks, there are
    > companies that don't care, there are demons in movies too.
    >
    > On a properly secured network your crap can't be reached.



    There is one proxy service out there now that using heavy
    banner ads, and they currently display on my site in rotation
    with various other ads. And they advertise that if you subscribe
    to their service, the boss will NEVER know what you are
    up to. It uses SSL encryption so that your traffic cannot
    be analysed, cracked, or sniffed.



  9. #9
    DevilsPGD
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked

    In message <ds-dnfuZi66jaYHUnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@posted.sonicnet> "Jimmy
    Ribbitt" <JimmyRibbitt@alphacrucisradio.net> was claimed to have wrote:

    >There is one proxy service out there now that using heavy
    >banner ads, and they currently display on my site in rotation
    >with various other ads. And they advertise that if you subscribe
    >to their service, the boss will NEVER know what you are
    >up to. It uses SSL encryption so that your traffic cannot
    >be analysed, cracked, or sniffed.


    The boss doesn't need to know what you're up to, all the boss needs to
    know is what you're not up to: Work.

  10. #10
    Chilly8
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked


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    "DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
    news:b30qh45j5ih1sb7r7n5h43d44votqd1sjh@4ax.com...
    > In message <ds-dnfuZi66jaYHUnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@posted.sonicnet> "Jimmy
    > Ribbitt" <JimmyRibbitt@alphacrucisradio.net> was claimed to have wrote:
    >
    >>There is one proxy service out there now that using heavy
    >>banner ads, and they currently display on my site in rotation
    >>with various other ads. And they advertise that if you subscribe
    >>to their service, the boss will NEVER know what you are
    >>up to. It uses SSL encryption so that your traffic cannot
    >>be analysed, cracked, or sniffed.

    >
    > The boss doesn't need to know what you're up to, all the boss needs to
    > know is what you're not up to: Work.


    However, as I have said, I see nothing wrong with Internet radio
    as long as you are getting your work done. Unlike other proxies,
    including the one mentioned by me up thread, the proxy that I run
    is geared towards Internet radio and being able to listen from
    work. As long as you are getting your work DONE, there is
    NOTHING wrong with listening to Internet radio.

    That is why our figure skating coverage gets a lot of listening
    in Europe, if any part of an event shuold fall during hte workday
    in Europe. While the popularity of skating has declined in
    America, it is still popular as ever in Europe, and I see
    connections from office networks all over Europe. Becuase
    I am not in any filtering lists, I find that people often scan
    my server to find the direct connect to avoid listening limits
    set by Live 365. To this day, I cannot figure out HOW
    they can find it. I use a port other than 8000. I thought
    if I kept it OFF the usual Shoutcast ports, nobody
    would be able to find it, but they do. To keep my
    server from crashing to the excess load this causes,
    I often change the port that is used, but they STILL
    find the direct connect URL anyway. I always
    thought that I kept the Shoutcast server (used
    as a Live 365 relay) off the usual Shoutcast
    ports, that no scanning tools would find it.

    Once they find it, they simply plug that URL into
    Windows Media Player when they get to work.
    During the World Figure Skating Championships last
    March, someone on a major corporate network in
    Britain was tuned in all day to EVERY segment of
    the competition, via my Shoutcast relay .



  11. #11
    Leythos
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked

    In article <ds-dnfuZi66jaYHUnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@posted.sonicnet>,
    JimmyRibbitt@alphacrucisradio.net says...
    > There is one proxy service out there now that using heavy
    > banner ads, and they currently display on my site in rotation
    > with various other ads. And they advertise that if you subscribe
    > to their service, the boss will NEVER know what you are
    > up to. It uses SSL encryption so that your traffic cannot
    > be analysed, cracked, or sniffed.
    >

    And a SSL connection stands out in the Firewall Monitor like a glaring
    red flare on a moonless night.

    It would take seconds to spot, if it was even permitted, and fire the
    offender.

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  12. #12
    Leythos
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked

    In article <gfj27g$ug0$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    > However, as I have said, I see nothing wrong with Internet radio
    > as long as you are getting your work done.
    >


    But, it's not YOUR CALL, they are almost always in violation of COMPANY
    POLICY AND THAT'S ENOUGH TO FIRE THEM.

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  13. #13
    Chilly8
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked



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    "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.2385df974510f8559896d2@us.news.astraweb.com...
    > In article <gfgkkh$o26$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >> And someone on youjr
    >> network right now could be using an insecure machine on
    >> that network, and you would never know what they are
    >> up to.
    >>

    >
    > Again, yes, there are improperly configured networks, there are
    > companies that don't care, there are demons in movies too.
    >
    > On a properly secured network your crap can't be reached.


    Well, here is a quote about VPNs from on public VPN site

    "VPN traffic itself is masked, it looks like a regular Internet traffic
    and no unnecessary attention is attracted"

    That is right off one Alive Proxy's pages.





  14. #14
    Leythos
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked

    In article <gfrequ$sk0$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >
    >
    > X-No-Archive: Yes
    >
    >
    > "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
    > news:MPG.2385df974510f8559896d2@us.news.astraweb.com...
    > > In article <gfgkkh$o26$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    > >> And someone on youjr
    > >> network right now could be using an insecure machine on
    > >> that network, and you would never know what they are
    > >> up to.
    > >>

    > >
    > > Again, yes, there are improperly configured networks, there are
    > > companies that don't care, there are demons in movies too.
    > >
    > > On a properly secured network your crap can't be reached.

    >
    > Well, here is a quote about VPNs from on public VPN site
    >
    > "VPN traffic itself is masked, it looks like a regular Internet traffic
    > and no unnecessary attention is attracted"
    >
    > That is right off one Alive Proxy's pages.


    LOL, and that would be factually a LIE/Incorrect.

    So, if you're forming a VPN, you're going to stand out like a flare in a
    dark night.

    If you're using a SSL connection you're as easy to spot as the carpet in
    your house.

    If you're connecting to any site for any duration, well, you're easy to
    spot also....

    So, even if the service hops ports, connections to hundreds of sites,
    it's easy to spot.

    Face it, you're just an unethical idiot that falls for claims you have
    no idea about.

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  15. #15
    Chilly8
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked


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    "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.2387bf67c73adcf19896d6@us.news.astraweb.com...
    > In article <gfj27g$ug0$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >> However, as I have said, I see nothing wrong with Internet radio
    >> as long as you are getting your work done.
    >>

    >
    > But, it's not YOUR CALL, they are almost always in violation of COMPANY
    > POLICY AND THAT'S ENOUGH TO FIRE THEM.
    >


    Well, I am using one web promition tool to increase my web
    traffic, and it has increased it. My logs are showing
    numerous connections from one server farm in China,
    notorious for open relays. It appears that a lot of people
    'are surfing from work using these notoriously insecure
    machines to desguise where they are going. All the boss
    will know is that someone is connecting to a strange
    computer in China.

    Also, beucase this web promoservice uses "expired"
    domains to re-direct traffic to my site, I avoid any
    filtering lists I might be on. People on workplaces
    will be able to access my site, and radio station,
    until the filter vendors catch up with that, which can
    take a few days. So for a mere 20 USD a month,
    I am randomly placed, by this service, on expired
    domains, to confuse filtering software out there
    on the market, becuase whatever expired domain
    I am assigned to will not show up in any vendor's
    filtering lists for several days, at best. Admins,
    filter vendors, and the like, are playing "whack
    a mole" which people like me who use such
    services. Block one domain, and it will appear
    in another domain the next day. If this service
    should become really popular, it WILL become
    the corporate IT admins WORST NIGHTMARE.
    And I would not be surprised if more webmasters
    signed up for this service to evade filtering software.




  16. #16
    Leythos
    Guest

    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked

    In article <gg0p0g$sb1$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    > If this service
    > should become really popular, it WILL become
    > the corporate IT admins WORST NIGHTMARE.
    >
    >


    By default, it would not work on a properly secured solution, period,
    end of story.

    Your path is meaningless as connections are not filtered by domain name,
    valid or not.

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  17. #17
    Chilly8
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked


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    "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.238e414d4ddf5ddc9896fb@us.news.astraweb.com...
    > In article <gg0p0g$sb1$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >> If this service
    >> should become really popular, it WILL become
    >> the corporate IT admins WORST NIGHTMARE.
    >>
    >>

    >
    > By default, it would not work on a properly secured solution, period,
    > end of story.
    >
    > Your path is meaningless as connections are not filtered by domain name,
    > valid or not.


    In most workplaces, it is filtered by domain name, which is why I am
    seeing my traffic go up since using this service. For a mere 20 USD
    per month, I get a service which lets me evade filtering in most
    workplaces.




  18. #18
    Chilly8
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked


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    "Chilly8" <chilly8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:gg1ups$3sd$1@aioe.org...
    >
    > X-No-Archive: Yes
    >
    >
    >
    > "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
    > news:MPG.238e414d4ddf5ddc9896fb@us.news.astraweb.com...
    >> In article <gg0p0g$sb1$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >>> If this service
    >>> should become really popular, it WILL become
    >>> the corporate IT admins WORST NIGHTMARE.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> By default, it would not work on a properly secured solution, period,
    >> end of story.
    >>
    >> Your path is meaningless as connections are not filtered by domain name,
    >> valid or not.

    >
    > In most workplaces, it is filtered by domain name, which is why I am
    > seeing my traffic go up since using this service. For a mere 20 USD
    > per month, I get a service which lets me evade filtering in most
    > workplaces.
    >


    And that service is working, in the past few days, I have seen traffic
    to my onilne radio station approach levels I have not seen in quite
    a while. This service to evade filtering in most workplaces is well
    worth the money I am paying for it.

    They just simply point one or more of their expired domians at
    my web server. Becuase those domians are not going to be in
    any filtering vendors list right away, my site will be acessible in
    most workplaces for several days. And I am seeing an
    unbelievable increase in traffic. Once the search engines have
    indexed my site on any domain name, I start getting more traffic.






  19. #19
    Leythos
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked

    In article <gg1ups$3sd$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >
    > X-No-Archive: Yes
    >
    >
    >
    > "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
    > news:MPG.238e414d4ddf5ddc9896fb@us.news.astraweb.com...
    > > In article <gg0p0g$sb1$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    > >> If this service
    > >> should become really popular, it WILL become
    > >> the corporate IT admins WORST NIGHTMARE.
    > >>
    > >>

    > >
    > > By default, it would not work on a properly secured solution, period,
    > > end of story.
    > >
    > > Your path is meaningless as connections are not filtered by domain name,
    > > valid or not.

    >
    > In most workplaces, it is filtered by domain name, which is why I am
    > seeing my traffic go up since using this service. For a mere 20 USD
    > per month, I get a service which lets me evade filtering in most
    > workplaces.


    You are NOT EVADING FILTERING, those places are just not choosing to
    block you, so you're paying for nothing, which is really funny.

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  20. #20
    Chilly8
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    Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked


    X-No-Archive: Yes


    "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.238e52614cc13bb89896fd@us.news.astraweb.com...
    > In article <gg1ups$3sd$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >>
    >> X-No-Archive: Yes
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.238e414d4ddf5ddc9896fb@us.news.astraweb.com...
    >> > In article <gg0p0g$sb1$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >> >> If this service
    >> >> should become really popular, it WILL become
    >> >> the corporate IT admins WORST NIGHTMARE.
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >
    >> > By default, it would not work on a properly secured solution, period,
    >> > end of story.
    >> >
    >> > Your path is meaningless as connections are not filtered by domain
    >> > name,
    >> > valid or not.

    >>
    >> In most workplaces, it is filtered by domain name, which is why I am
    >> seeing my traffic go up since using this service. For a mere 20 USD
    >> per month, I get a service which lets me evade filtering in most
    >> workplaces.

    >
    > You are NOT EVADING FILTERING, those places are just not choosing to
    > block you, so you're paying for nothing, which is really funny.



    I also block the known IP ranges of major filtering vendors to
    prevent my site from being "spidered", and added to their
    filtering lists. I had had to add a new IP block belonging
    to Websense, as I was spidered for the first time by them
    in a long time. I have added that IP range to my firewall,
    so their automated spiders won't get back in the next time
    they crawl my site again. It will appear as if my site
    dissapeared, again, so I will be dropped from whatever filtering
    lists I get on.

    If I am not in the filtering vendors' block lists, I will not be blocked in
    most workplaces, end of story.




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