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    Just a few days before Southern California annihilated Oklahoma, 55-19, for the 2004 BCS championship, Pete Carroll talked recruiting with the media.

    The Trojans were undefeated and stacked with talent, including the best running back tandem in the country, Reggie Bush and LenDale White. Yet Carroll couldn’t help but get wistful at the rare miss.

    “I wanted Adrian Peterson in the worst way,” Carroll said of losing out to OU for the star.

    While there is no denying Peterson’s outrageous ability, the idea of adding him to a potent backfield of future pros, where carries were already in short supply, seemed rather, well, greedy.

    What would you do with Peterson anyway, Carroll was asked.

    “Play him,” he said with a laugh.

    Greed is generally good when it comes to recruiting. If you can sign every great player in the country – or at least the majority of them in talent-rich California – then why wouldn’t you?

    Carroll has come close to doing just that. And in the bizarro world of the BCS, it’s killing him.

    Not on the field, where his latest powerhouse team is 7-1 and just outscored its last five opponents 214-20.

    In the BCS standings though, SC’s recruiting dominance has left its conference in shambles, one strength-of-schedule-sinking opponent after the next. Saturday’s 56-0 destruction of Washington somehow caused the Trojans to drop from No. 5 to No. 7.

    “The more we win the worse we get,” Carroll joked to reporters Sunday.

    The more Carroll recruits, the worse everyone gets. These Pac-10 opponents are lousy for a reason. Half their starters are sitting on the Trojan bench.

    While greed can at times be a fine thing for the greedy, it can also produce unintended negative consequences. For Carroll it’s this: he’s run the nation’s best program for awhile but has just one BCS title to show for it.

    The reason is the system’s computers hate him. They may like Karl Marx though, or at least a good old-fashioned mercy rule.

    If each February Carroll would sign what he needs, not what he wants, maybe the rest of his league could play a lick. Forget “Fight On!” Let’s try, “Share.”

    You know, rather than take another man-eating linebacker, maybe allow Washington State to have him.

    Or perhaps he could create a welfare program, a rent-a-star system. The Trojans’ third-string quarterback is Mitch Mustain, who went 7-1 as a freshman starter at Arkansas before transferring.

    He’s really good, even if Carroll has no use for him at the moment. So couldn’t they ship him out to say, Arizona State, at least during non-conference play? He’d get a little seasoning, help the league’s computer power and then come back and hold a clipboard. It’s win-win.

    It seems apparent these other schools can’t do it on their own. Would it be so bad if USC got a little worse so the rest of the league could get a little better?

    Or is 1-6 against the Mountain West acceptable?

    Recruiting rankings won’t tell you everything, but they’ll tell you something. From 2004-07 (the current fifth year seniors to sophomores) USC signed Rivals.com’s No. 1 class nationally three times. The other year it came in second.

    The problem is no one else in the Pac-10 signed a top-10 class. Only five times did anyone manage to crack the top 20.

    Essentially, USC got all the recruits. Carroll convinced them that practice time at USC is more valuable than playing time at UCLA. Hey, it worked for Matt Cassel, who couldn’t start for the Trojans but does for the New England Patriots.

    The Pac-10 is fueled by the annual mother lode of California high school players. For the league to thrive, they need to spread out.

    Instead, the majority head to the L.A. Coliseum. USC annually signs between six and eight of the top 10 players in California. It often gets the very best three, four or even six. When you consider Notre Dame grabs one or two of the other available stars, the rest of the league is practically shut out.

    From 2005-08, USC signed 29 recruits ranked in the top 50 nationally. The other Pac-10 schools combined to sign four.

    This weekend, the Trojans play No. 21 Cal. It’s the last chance to impress pollsters and computers alike against a quality opponent. It won’t be enough. The BCS title game is going to happen without them, again. Not that the Trojans have much of an argument at this stage. They lost to Oregon State, which unbeaten teams Utah and Penn State both handled.

    Obviously, avoiding the annual stumble to a weaker league foe would be the easiest solution for SC’s title drought. Unlike other big-time leagues though, the Pac-10 doesn’t allow for a recovery.

    In an effort to help his strength of schedule, Carroll plays a non-conference slate like no other. Not only are there no teams from the old Division I-AA, such as the ones Big Ten powers play, it’s generally devoid of mid-majors. He even welcomes the challenge of real road games – at Auburn, Arkansas, BYU, Notre Dame, etc.

    Not even that can save him.

    If there was a playoff, USC might have three or four national titles. Since there isn’t, its postseason satisfaction has to come from running up the score in the Rose Bowl.

    Drastic disappointment calls for drastic measures. Greed has served the Trojans well. Perhaps a little situational socialism might serve them even better. Redistribute the wealth! Tax the rich! Send that 4.4 speedster to Washington so they can beat somebody, anybody!

    Right Pete?

    Ah, perhaps not.

    Carroll is expected to sign the nation’s No. 1 recruiting class again. No other Pac-10 team is expected to threaten the top 15. Four of the top five California seniors have already committed to USC. The other is headed to Notre Dame.

    The Trojans’ feast is the Pac-10’s famine. If greed is how it’s going to be, then back to Plan A. Sign them all and don’t dare lose.
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    I'm not sure what it matters about the 2004 season for starters or any other previous season of USC's to really make a difference of this year. But wait, its pretty clear that the voters in the BCS have warped brains and vote from those earlier years in USC's favor which is why even with a 1 loss against a non ranked team they are ahead of undefeated teams in the polls.

    Its logic against logic....

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    Success always breeds recruitment. USC benefits from the fact they control pretty much the whole western part of the country and the school resides in one of three highly dominant HS football states (California, Florida and Texas).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roody View Post
    Success always breeds recruitment. USC benefits from the fact they control pretty much the whole western part of the country and the school resides in one of three highly dominant HS football states (California, Florida and Texas).
    It breeds recruitment but alot of their success is written on inaccurate polls that tend to push them high early and give a obvious advantage when it comes to looking good all season win or lose a game...they still look good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roody View Post
    Success always breeds recruitment. USC benefits from the fact they control pretty much the whole western part of the country and the school resides in one of four highly dominant HS football states (California, Florida, Texas and Ohio).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sava700 View Post
    It breeds recruitment but alot of their success is written on inaccurate polls that tend to push them high early and give a obvious advantage when it comes to looking good all season win or lose a game...they still look good.
    Actually alot of their success comes from winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
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    Yes I would rank Ohio probably #4.

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