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    IP Talk.

    You've heard it all before and everyone's had their say, some have made claims at credentials and said RuneScape

    players were fools to believe in the whole ip changing thing because they were told by people that weren't experts.

    - By the way, we've got no proof that the people scrutinizing these claims have any real credentials anyway. But

    I'll keep it simple this time. Just a bit of background information. - There is a mini-game named Castle Wars in

    RuneScape where being able to click quickly provides a great advantage. All you experts must be thinking - duh clear

    you're computer of unused files, get a decent connection. But there are hundreds of eye-witnesses that could tell

    you hand on heart that people with certain ip's will get their click in first.

    I'm going to make this part very clear because a few experts seem to have got the wrong end of the stick - NO ONE IS

    CLAIMING THAT A CERTAIN IP MAKES YOUR INTERNET FASTER

    The word "speed" has been thrown about a bit and I think it's caused a bit of confusion. In this game, there is

    regularly a good 50 people clicking on the same thing. All of these 50 people have been playing the game for years,

    have the timing down to perfection - they are all clicking at the same time. The game designers must have foreseen

    this which is why the order of your click is placed in a list. Of course above all the first click would be the one

    that is placed at the top of the list, but like I said, when these seasoned players are all clicking at the same

    time, there has to be a way of determining the order.

    Which is where IP's come into it. There are servers on RuneScape, ones based in UK, US, NL and so on. When this part

    of the game was made, Castle Wars wasn't as competitive as it is now and people had no need to change their IP. So

    the majority of players had their first IP (unless using a dynamic ip of course) and these IP's were commonly based

    on your physical location. So the way this "list" was ordered was - the server which is closest to your ip (at that

    time it was also physical location) is the server in which you are most fast at clicking.

    As the game got more competitive and certain servers became more popular for Castle Wars, more and more people

    wanted the fastest click. It became evident, that certain IP's gave a big advantage. Although patterns emerge it

    seems there is no ultimate IP for RuneScape, although some changed IP's are much faster than the average,

    bog-standard IP, there is always group of IP's that beat that IP.

    Yes it's a bit ambiguous but Jagex keep their cards close to their chest on this one.

    In a somewhat open-ended conclusion,

    it CANNOT be denied that IP's make no difference in RuneScape because that is what determines the order of your

    click,

    the behaviour of certain IP's against certain other IP's can be strange and is most likely determined on the server,

    the fact that IP's have different effects on different servers implies there is no ultimate IP. This IP thing is for

    all games, including xbox games as well. I have found out when you join a custom game your friend has going..or

    start a match in lets say..big team social..basically whoever has the lowest ip is the host. Whoever is the host

    has the better advantage of speed/hits per second you do on the other person..faster. So with that being said, IP

    Address's determine A lot of things. You computer "experts" dont know a thing about this concept though. No offense

    or anything. Thats why we leave the asians that play runescape to figure this out right? ^^ asians ftw. If you want

    to know the "secret" to ip here it is: Theres 4 numbers in a ip right, only the 2 last ones make up your speed. The

    first 2 dont worry about. The second to last number has to be divisible by 8..and the last number as low as it can

    get. For example, 224.0 is one of the best ip's your gunna get. Or 8.0.

    That's all I've got on the matter, please don't make any posts that simply wave the theory off for ludacrice because

    though you may have degrees in networking, I doubt you have any degrees in how RuneScape determines whose click

    should be counted first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austiniscool View Post
    If you want

    to know the "secret" to ip here it is: Theres 4 numbers in a ip right, only the 2 last ones make up your speed. The

    first 2 dont worry about. The second to last number has to be divisible by 8..and the last number as low as it can

    get. For example, 224.0 is one of the best ip's your gunna get. Or 8.0.
    The similarity between the 3rd and 4th octet of your IP address has to do with the size of your ISP, and what geographical area you are in as far as their client base. Might only have the 4th octet ever be different, or the last two if you subscribe to a larger ISP.
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    oh im just saying..the last 2 numbers make you fast...and determine your order of ip's.

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    Oh god nhot this BS again LOL

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    You can say its BS...but you dont know what your talking about. Play runescape for 3 years, and try the mini game castle wars for a year or 2. You will see what im talking about. Ip is Everything ^^

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    I tried it and now my mp3's run too fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downhill View Post
    I tried it and now my mp3's run too fast.
    I found it made my coffee bitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YeOldeStonecat View Post
    I found it made my coffee bitter.
    I found that I no longer needed Viagra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austiniscool View Post
    You can say its BS...but you dont know what your talking about. Play runescape for 3 years, and try the mini game castle wars for a year or 2. You will see what im talking about. Ip is Everything ^^
    Until someone from Runescape comes out and says "Hi yes we were bored and smoked way too much pot so like we decided to make it so that certain IPs get the 'faster click' even though its not needed to separate 'ties' for click speed cuz like all other games the server would handle it on its own." Then I won't buy it.

    You Runescapers just continue posting this crap all over forums everywhere, get pissed when people don't agree with you, and never seem to have any solid proof, beyond "we used experienced runescape players."

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    Sad lmao..if i really "wanted" to i could get 100+ people to post of this thread saying ip matters. Anyways Yardofstuf...there has to be some order of a ip system...numerical order son . If everyone had the same chance of getting the flag in runescape castle wars...noone would get. . I dont smoke, im sry im not stupid like that lol.
    edit- How else could I prove it? You have to come over to my house and I could show you..or you would have to play runescape awile and find out yourself.

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    Pssst....when you change your IP with the "same ISP"...you still go out the very same gateway. It's your ISPs gateway that counts, combined with their contention ratio (oversubscription). Add to that..with cable, you're sharing your neighborhood node with other neighbors..but with IP changes, you're still hitting the very same shared node. DSL...straight shot to your ISPs center..but still the very same gateway.

    The only possible variation here...in keeping the same ISP, is if you had your ISP change you from a home grade package, to a business grade package. You would get a different IP..but it's a major change, more expensive, lower contention ration (usually 20:1 or less, versus approx 50:1 with home grade accounts). Different routing to a different gateway, but this isn't something that happens just by releasing/renewing, it's a special order.
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    I'm curious why some of your "runescapers" spam various forums with this. You're not asking for help, you're not making a post asking for input, you're just randomly going to various networking/computer forums...and spamming the same stuff. Out of the blue. You're not posting as an answer to someones post seeking help. You're not posting in the gaming forums, or tweaking forums, just in the general forums.

    Here's one..pretty much the same wording as yours, almost cut 'n paste. Even some sentences are typed in caps just like yours. It's 90% the same as yours. Cut 'n paste 'n spam.

    http://whatismyipaddress.com/forum/v...howtopic=16452

    The only thing I see common with needs of changing IPs in this "runescape" game...are easier methods of hacking the servers. Cheating seems to be totally rampant in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austiniscool View Post
    Sad lmao..if i really "wanted" to i could get 100+ people to post of this thread saying ip matters. Anyways Yardofstuf...there has to be some order of a ip system...numerical order son . If everyone had the same chance of getting the flag in runescape castle wars...noone would get. . I dont smoke, im sry im not stupid like that lol.
    edit- How else could I prove it? You have to come over to my house and I could show you..or you would have to play runescape awile and find out yourself.
    100+ people saying it, seeing it at your home, or playing myself doesnt prove ****.

    Sitting at home and everyone clicking the flag at the same time is not a sound test.

    There doesn't need to be a numerical order based on IP, its just first come first served, it may all seem exactly the same to you but the server will be able to tell the difference.

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    You don't know how TCP/IP works. Fact.

    You are a moron. Fact.

    You need to stop spouting off this ******** where people might be fooled into believing your lies. Fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austiniscool View Post
    You computer "experts" dont know a thing about this concept though. No offense or anything.


    Question for you...have your balls dropped yet?

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    Come on guys. Leave the insults out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YARDofSTUF View Post
    Oh god nhot this BS again LOL
    Internets. He's doing it wrong.

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    when these seasoned players are all clicking at the same

    time, there has to be a way of determining the order.
    There is, it's called a timestamp on a packet. Packets arrive serially, not always in the order they're sent, but they have an order in which they arrive. That's how they're handled, in chronological order, not by IP address. Not only does this not make sense, but it would make for some retarded code. It's a nice theory though.

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