Reply With QuoteI have only put 2 in the past for most of my jobs if thatOriginally Posted by CableDude
I usually whiz by any tests they throw at me during application to offset it.
I guess they'll throw your resume in the trash if you don't?
I have only put 2 in the past for most of my jobs if that
i THINK THE REFERENCES THING should be abolished! just plane retarded
I was going to post a link to that thread, but the SG search results for "bullsh|t" were too numerous
sometimes you have to think outside the box to get inside the box.
Depends on what your applying for.
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for construction its a joke and say renting an apt
I was going to post a link to that thread, but the SG search results for "bullsh|t" were too numerous
sometimes you have to think outside the box to get inside the box
Every job I have an interest in wants this or a salary requirement.
Problem is I don't have three. Or maybe its not a problem.
I would put down three, They never check but it may look bad if you do not.
I usually put references available on request if you are trying to cut down space. References are always good - usually a deal breaker. Basically, if they ask you for references and you have bad ones - it isn't looking so good. But if they don't ask you for references then you are good to go.
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Ive put 'references available on request" before
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Do you use that when they ask "the names of three references"?
Depends on the job.
More menial, entry level jobs, labor jobs, blue collar jobs, they tend not to..
More professional, white collar, office jobs..that command a higher salary, larger company, more competition for the position, prior experience, higher level of education...yes..they are more likely to require them.
The higher the job, generally the harder the competition...you need to prove why you're better than others..and they're more likely to contact prior employers and references.
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Absolutely you should always have at least three people who know you that can/will vouch for you at any moment by phone or personal letter. My sister is getting a crappy minimum wage summer job at a hospital and they are checking her references today. They certainly count, even for blue collar, manual labor jobs.
I wouldn't put "references available by request" either because if someone is sitting at his desk looking at two very qualified individuals for hire and one of them listed them and one of them didn't, guess who is going to the trash? At that point your whole existence to them is listed on one sheet of paper. Make it easy for the people doing the hiring.
Having just been "hired" into an AF Reserve unit, I had to have three references and used a long-time family friend/flight instructor, my boss of the last 5 years and a co-worker of the past 5 years. It seemed a good mix of people who knew me in different ways.
That's what I was considering.
I'm certainly not going to use the current boss and definitely not the prick that has caused me grief for the last five years.
Not that I have any offers or anything.....
I usually put down my crack dealer, favorite ho and my priest.
All kidding aside, I always include references. Make sure the people agree to be a reference first.
One is a major in the homicide division in the NOPD, who I used to ride bikes with quite often.
One works IT for the St Tammany parish school board, friend about 12 years.
One is a friend of about 18 years.
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CD -- I figure that a coworker is a great reference as they know what you're like to work with. A lot of bosses have no idea what a person is like and only has "the numbers" or the basic info of your output. The coworker I used has traveled with me to several countries and countless trade shows and meetings around the country. I also golf with him once a week. If you can find a good one that is good on the phone, I think you'll have a great one to hold on to for a long time.
As for my boss (the company president), I'm lucky that he's also family friends of ours and we travel with him and his family, he and his wife went to HS with my wife and I started in the business when he was starting it. It makes for a good reference to be sure.
You applying to some places? Best of luck if you are!
No, But if you need ideas, use college proffesors that know you, old bosses/supervisors otherwise not listed on your resume'/application (if you left on good terms), even older family friends, neighbors, people in your church, even old highschool teachers or coaches (if youve only been out of highschool a few years) are good references.
Most of the time if you are at entry or close to entry level type positions they only want someone that can vouch that your not a crap bag or whatever.
I think just about everyone can find 3 people to put down as references, just dont think they all have to be important people in the line of work your getting into.
I have peeps call me about refs. every now and then. Friend or not, I tell the truth. At that point it's my rep on the line for giving a good ref.
I don't include references nor do I say that they're available upon request because it's implied that if I'm asked for them I will, of course, produce them.
If references are requested up front in the application process, that's another story and are included.
Oh, and when you ask someone to be a reference, make sure you ask them if the could be a "favorable reference" on your behalf. Sometimes you never know what people think of you.
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