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  1. #1
    Gualtier Malde
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    Any problems with AVG8?

    I am running Windows 2000 SP 4 and have AVG 7.5 installed. I recently renewed
    my subscription and now AVG is urging download and installation of v 8. I am
    writing because I think I recall someone describing some trouble with v 8, but I
    can't find the reference.

    So: Anyone having trouble with v 8 in this environment?

    Thanks

  2. #2
    Nokternl
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?

    On May 15, 6:56*pm, Gualtier Malde <valac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > I am running Windows 2000 SP 4 and have AVG 7.5 installed. *I recently renewed
    > my subscription and now AVG is urging download and installation of v 8. *I am
    > writing because I think I recall someone describing some trouble with v 8,but I
    > can't find the reference.
    >
    > So: Anyone having trouble with v 8 in this environment?
    >
    > Thanks


    In my office, we have had both good and bad luck, but we've only
    installed AVG8 on a handful of Win2k machines. Only one installation
    has failed and we weren't exactly sure why this happened. Provided
    that memory serves me correctly, i believe it was because SP4 wasn't
    installed first, but unfortunately I cannot remember for sure since it
    was a while ago. I just wanted to let you know that our office had
    trouble with an installation. One thing I do remember as part of one
    of the AVG8 upgrade was that there is a Roxio patch that was required
    to be installed before AVG8. If believe the installer had the link to
    download the update when the error occurred, so you might want to take
    that into account if you have it. I hope this helps you on your road
    to an answer.

  3. #3
    Gualtier Malde
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?

    Nokternl wrote:
    > On May 15, 6:56 pm, Gualtier Malde <valac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >> I am running Windows 2000 SP 4 and have AVG 7.5 installed. I recently renewed
    >> my subscription and now AVG is urging download and installation of v 8. I am
    >> writing because I think I recall someone describing some trouble with v 8, but I
    >> can't find the reference.
    >>
    >> So: Anyone having trouble with v 8 in this environment?
    >>
    >> Thanks

    >
    > In my office, we have had both good and bad luck, but we've only
    > installed AVG8 on a handful of Win2k machines. Only one installation
    > has failed and we weren't exactly sure why this happened. Provided
    > that memory serves me correctly, i believe it was because SP4 wasn't
    > installed first, but unfortunately I cannot remember for sure since it
    > was a while ago. I just wanted to let you know that our office had
    > trouble with an installation. One thing I do remember as part of one
    > of the AVG8 upgrade was that there is a Roxio patch that was required
    > to be installed before AVG8. If believe the installer had the link to
    > download the update when the error occurred, so you might want to take
    > that into account if you have it. I hope this helps you on your road
    > to an answer


    Thanks - I just got back here. Meanwhile I did install v 8 and it seems OK. I
    don't recall a Roxio component, but Roxio is insinuated in so much software
    these days that nothing surprises me about it.


  4. #4
    Jim Watt
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?

    On Thu, 15 May 2008 16:56:39 -0700, Gualtier Malde
    <valacapt@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >I am running Windows 2000 SP 4 and have AVG 7.5 installed. I recently renewed
    >my subscription and now AVG is urging download and installation of v 8. I am
    >writing because I think I recall someone describing some trouble with v 8, but I
    >can't find the reference.
    >
    >So: Anyone having trouble with v 8 in this environment?
    >
    >Thanks


    I dislike the feature where it checks website pages for
    problems, as it means that if you open a google search
    page, it visits all the links.

    However it can be turned off, although the tray icon
    admonishes you for it with a little red exclamation.
    --
    Jim Watt
    http://www.gibnet.com

  5. #5
    Beachcomber
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?


    >I dislike the feature where it checks website pages for
    >problems, as it means that if you open a google search
    >page, it visits all the links.
    >
    >However it can be turned off, although the tray icon
    >admonishes you for it with a little red exclamation.
    >--
    >Jim Watt
    >http://www.gibnet.com


    My PC is about 4 years old and I just installed the free version of
    AVG 8.

    I'm very displeased with the speed reduction. Whatever new features
    there are seem to have slowed down the browser to the point where it
    is not usable. Browser pages take longer to load and e-mail was
    noticably slower as well.

    I had to disable the autoload of AVG from the system tray because I
    just couldn't stand it anymore. I'm one of those who had used the
    previous freeware version of AVG for years without any problems.

    This new version seems to have a stanglehold over system resources
    unless perhaps, your computer is one of the newest and fastest models
    or perhaps the PAY version works better.

    Anyone know for sure? Anyone else see the slowdown?

    Beachcomber



  6. #6
    Sebastian G.
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?

    Beachcomber wrote:


    > I'm very displeased with the speed reduction. Whatever new features
    > there are seem to have slowed down the browser to the point where it
    > is not usable. Browser pages take longer to load and e-mail was
    > noticably slower as well.



    Maybe you should disable the web and mail scanning proxy? As any competent
    person would do?

  7. #7
    jc
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?

    Jim Watt wrote:
    > On Thu, 15 May 2008 16:56:39 -0700, Gualtier Malde
    > <valacapt@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >> I am running Windows 2000 SP 4 and have AVG 7.5 installed. I recently renewed
    >> my subscription and now AVG is urging download and installation of v 8. I am
    >> writing because I think I recall someone describing some trouble with v 8, but I
    >> can't find the reference.
    >>
    >> So: Anyone having trouble with v 8 in this environment?
    >>
    >> Thanks

    >
    > I dislike the feature where it checks website pages for
    > problems, as it means that if you open a google search
    > page, it visits all the links.
    >


    That's an interesting idea. Probably not as effective as safe surfing
    and blocking scripts, but maybe with a whitelist it could be feasible.


    jc

    > However it can be turned off, although the tray icon
    > admonishes you for it with a little red exclamation.
    > --
    > Jim Watt
    > http://www.gibnet.com


  8. #8
    David James
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?

    I'm having issues on my windoze box with it scanning emails and crashing,
    but I only use it as a back up.

  9. #9
    jc
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?

    David James wrote:
    > I'm having issues on my windoze box with it scanning emails and crashing,
    > but I only use it as a back up.


    It sounds like they got ambitious but also got hit by a deadline. You
    might wait for 8.1 to be released.


    jc

  10. #10
    Gualtier Malde
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?

    Beachcomber wrote:
    >> I dislike the feature where it checks website pages for
    >> problems, as it means that if you open a google search
    >> page, it visits all the links.
    >>
    >> However it can be turned off, although the tray icon
    >> admonishes you for it with a little red exclamation.
    >> --
    >> Jim Watt
    >> http://www.gibnet.com

    >
    > My PC is about 4 years old and I just installed the free version of
    > AVG 8.
    >
    > I'm very displeased with the speed reduction. Whatever new features
    > there are seem to have slowed down the browser to the point where it
    > is not usable. Browser pages take longer to load and e-mail was
    > noticably slower as well.
    >
    > I had to disable the autoload of AVG from the system tray because I
    > just couldn't stand it anymore. I'm one of those who had used the
    > previous freeware version of AVG for years without any problems.
    >
    > This new version seems to have a stanglehold over system resources
    > unless perhaps, your computer is one of the newest and fastest models
    > or perhaps the PAY version works better.
    >
    > Anyone know for sure? Anyone else see the slowdown?
    >
    > Beachcomber
    >
    >

    As the OP of this thread: I finally did update and I have been quite pleased. I
    missed the tray icon that shows when a scan is being done and wrote AVG about
    it. While waiting for their reply I found that, during a scan only, the GUI
    shows a tag for "Scheduled Scan" and that allows pausing or canceling of a scan.
    Then I got the letter from AVG and they said that they were going to return
    the tray icon, as well.

    The scan takes longer for some reason but I'm rarely in a hurry and find other
    things to do while it is going on.


  11. #11
    Jim Watt
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?

    On 28 May 2008 17:48:40 GMT, David James <stopthepigeon@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >I'm having issues on my windoze box with it scanning emails and crashing,
    >but I only use it as a back up.


    Then turn the feature off !
    --
    Jim Watt
    http://www.gibnet.com

  12. #12
    Klunk
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?

    On Thu, 29 May 2008 13:14:07 +0200, Jim Watt passed an empty day by
    writing:

    > On 28 May 2008 17:48:40 GMT, David James <stopthepigeon@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I'm having issues on my windoze box with it scanning emails and
    >>crashing, but I only use it as a back up.

    >
    > Then turn the feature off !


    Why not just shut the whole package off on that logic and get something
    that works - you stupid trolling f**kwit

  13. #13
    Sebastian G.
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?

    Klunk wrote:

    > On Thu, 29 May 2008 13:14:07 +0200, Jim Watt passed an empty day by
    > writing:
    >
    >> On 28 May 2008 17:48:40 GMT, David James <stopthepigeon@hotmail.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> I'm having issues on my windoze box with it scanning emails and
    >>> crashing, but I only use it as a back up.

    >> Then turn the feature off !

    >
    > Why not just shut the whole package off on that logic and get something
    > that works - you stupid trolling f**kwit



    Actually this would be the best choice, since aside from introducing local
    privilege escalation vulnerabilities such virus scanners are pretty useless.
    Why not try ClamWin which works as an unprivileged process, combined with
    WinSnoop which triggers scan activity on FileChangeNotifications?

  14. #14
    Klunk
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?

    On Thu, 29 May 2008 13:52:35 +0200, Sebastian G. passed an empty day by
    writing:

    > Klunk wrote:
    >
    >> On Thu, 29 May 2008 13:14:07 +0200, Jim Watt passed an empty day by
    >> writing:
    >>
    >>> On 28 May 2008 17:48:40 GMT, David James <stopthepigeon@hotmail.com>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I'm having issues on my windoze box with it scanning emails and
    >>>> crashing, but I only use it as a back up.
    >>> Then turn the feature off !

    >>
    >> Why not just shut the whole package off on that logic and get something
    >> that works - you stupid trolling f**kwit

    >
    >
    > Actually this would be the best choice, since aside from introducing
    > local privilege escalation vulnerabilities such virus scanners are
    > pretty useless. Why not try ClamWin which works as an unprivileged
    > process, combined with WinSnoop which triggers scan activity on
    > FileChangeNotifications?


    Can't find any info on WinSnoop even google lets me down, got a link?

  15. #15
    Sebastian G.
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?

    Klunk wrote:


    > Can't find any info on WinSnoop even google lets me down, got a link?



    Argh, it should read "WinPooch". Though it does not only use change
    notifications, but also some IAT hooking. :-/

  16. #16
    Klunk
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?

    On Thu, 29 May 2008 17:53:53 +0200, Sebastian G. passed an empty day by
    writing:

    > Klunk wrote:
    >
    >
    >> Can't find any info on WinSnoop even google lets me down, got a link?

    >
    >
    > Argh, it should read "WinPooch". Though it does not only use change
    > notifications, but also some IAT hooking. :-/


    WinPooch just locks the machine up so I'll give that a miss. Tried it on
    my test image and on a virgin XP Pro box I keep for testing. It's pants.

  17. #17
    Beachcomber
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?


    For me, the old AVG worked pretty good and I was happy to recommend it
    as a primary virus protection program for a PC.

    This new Version 8.0 is invasive of system resources and slows my 4
    year old PC down considerably, especially during simple browsing on
    IE.

    It appears to call up other web sites in the background just to check
    the validity of links on whatever page I call up. Yes, I know I can
    disable this and other features, but even when I shut down AVG on
    startup, it seems that there are processes running in the background
    that interfer with IE and either slow it down or make it hang.

    When they fix it, I'll be happy to start using it again. Virus
    protection is a good thing.

    I just don't have the time to experiment with every single setting
    (and by default), it seems that every single resource-consuming check
    is turned on when you install it.

    Just my experience with AVG 8.0, so far...



  18. #18
    Sebastian G.
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?

    Klunk wrote:

    > On Thu, 29 May 2008 17:53:53 +0200, Sebastian G. passed an empty day by
    > writing:
    >
    >> Klunk wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>> Can't find any info on WinSnoop even google lets me down, got a link?

    >>
    >> Argh, it should read "WinPooch". Though it does not only use change
    >> notifications, but also some IAT hooking. :-/

    >
    > WinPooch just locks the machine up so I'll give that a miss.



    How could it lock up the machine? Unless it accidentially triggers a local
    unprivileged DoS condition, which in turn would mean that you should analyze
    the issue and report it to Microsoft.

  19. #19
    Sebastian G.
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?

    Beachcomber wrote:

    > For me, the old AVG worked pretty good and I was happy to recommend it
    > as a primary virus protection program for a PC.



    Did I miss something? It's a virus scanner, it can't protect from viruses by
    design.

    > This new Version 8.0 is invasive of system resources and slows my 4
    > year old PC down considerably, especially during simple browsing on
    > IE.



    WTF? You want security, yet you're abusing MSIE as a webbrowser?

  20. #20
    Klunk
    Guest

    Re: Any problems with AVG8?

    On Thu, 29 May 2008 19:13:45 +0200, Sebastian G. passed an empty day by
    writing:

    > Klunk wrote:
    >
    >> On Thu, 29 May 2008 17:53:53 +0200, Sebastian G. passed an empty day by
    >> writing:
    >>
    >>> Klunk wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> Can't find any info on WinSnoop even google lets me down, got a link?
    >>>
    >>> Argh, it should read "WinPooch". Though it does not only use change
    >>> notifications, but also some IAT hooking. :-/

    >>
    >> WinPooch just locks the machine up so I'll give that a miss.

    >
    >
    > How could it lock up the machine? Unless it accidentially triggers a
    > local unprivileged DoS condition, which in turn would mean that you
    > should analyze the issue and report it to Microsoft.


    Who have said it is sloppy third party coding. Next ?


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