Windows Vista Tweaks

**Philip** · 01-28-09, 02:44 PM

It works with Vista and Server 2008, haven't really installed/tested Windows 7 yet but it should work as well.
I'd try some of the commands from the Vista tweaking article manually to test.

**100 010 00** · 02-04-09, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Philip

I've added a SG Vista TCP/IP Patch (thanks 100 010 00 for some ideas), allowing users to change all Vista related netsh/registry settings to their optimal values in a single step (except nagling and MTU, more info available in our Vista Tweaks article referenced above). The SG Vista TCP/IP patch allows for reverting all settings to their Windows default values as well.

We may opt for a Vista Windows-based version ot the Optimizer for more granular user control sometime in the future, depending on demand.

Any feedback is appreciated, as always.

I have also added the priorites in here.....

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\ServiceProvider.......... works fine

**Philip** · 02-05-09, 08:45 AM

Updated the Vista patch with DNS/Host priority tweak as well, thanks.

**100 010 00** · 02-05-09, 09:44 AM

if u like, u can add the "0" limit of reserve bandwindth, also same like xp..

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Psched]
"NonBestEffortLimit"=dword:00000000

**Philip** · 02-05-09, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by 100 010 00

if u like, u can add the "0" limit of reserve bandwindth, also same like xp..

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Psched]
"NonBestEffortLimit"=dword:00000000

Thanks for the suggestion ! This information is available in the tweaking articles, not sure whether to include it in the patch.

The reason being, it only has effect in the presense of running QoS applications that request priority traffic... It may be a good thing to customize if the user requires QoS tweaking, but not necessarily applicable for everyone.

Edit: I've added it as a separate user option from the menu when running the patch.

demola · 02-07-09, 06:28 AM

thanks phillips pls can SG Vista TCP/IP patch work for dial up?i use a 460kbps but my download speed hardly go beyond 8KB/s

**mccoffee** · 02-07-09, 10:43 PM

I've tried in it windows 7 it works

**Philip** · 02-10-09, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by mccoffee

I've tried in it windows 7 it works

Great to know, thanks for testing !
I'll have to install Windows 7 one of these days myself.

**mccoffee** · 02-10-09, 12:41 PM

Philip not to thread hijack here is apublic download of the beta for it.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...-download.aspx

JayLevi · 02-10-09, 01:00 PM

"I've been seeing this nagle tweak thing all over the internet. I just had to finally say something in regards to Vista and this tweak. For windows Vista the correct registry key for TCPNoDelay can be one of two places:

1st place is: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\MSDTC\

2nd place is: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ {in the game sub key}

Do not add the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Parameters registry entry to Vista, its not there by default for a good reason, because Vista doesn't use the Message Queue Server (MSMQ). The TCPNoDelay key is application and function specific, meaning, what ever software key it appears in is where it works, but heres the deal, it can only appear once in the registry. If its more then one place in the registry then it does not function. Sooo...dont go adding it to every application and game registry key, only add it in one place if you want it to be applied globally on Vista, and thats in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\MSDTC\ registry key.

Now, the next thing I wanted to say, regardless of the pictures you have seen, or what some of the so called 'experts' on the 'net say, disabling nagles is a bad thing. When you do you basically break TCP/IP. In XP and Vista, the game doesn't work better because there is a flaw in the windows TCP/IP, it seems to work better because the code in the game is crappy to begin with and doesn't work properly with TCP/IP because the net code in the game that shapes the packets it sends doesn't correctly form the packets and as a result produces a smaller packet and lots of them, disabling nagles only seems to help because it makes TCP/IP more accpeting of the broken non-standard packet from the game. Next, disabling nagles, while you may get a lower ping reading in certain games, your really degrading your connection and bandwidth. The last thing I wanted to say about adding this to Vista, it doesn't work in Vista contrary to popular belief even if you turn off autotuning. Think about it, what happens when you turn off autotuning? So you turn it off, lock the TCP window size, and then further degrade that by turning off nagles? Come on now, get realistic folks."

Is he right or not, should i disable nagle or not?

**Philip** · 02-12-09, 12:53 PM

You shouldn't disable nagling under normal use.

**Philip** · 02-12-09, 12:54 PM

Update: Vista TCP/IP patch has been upated to version 1.3, added TcpTimedWaitDelay registry entry to reduce unused dynamic port reallocation from 2 minutes to 30 seconds.

**100 010 00** · 02-13-09, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Philip

........SET /P choice1= Type y,n, q, or d, and press ENTER:
IF /I "%choice1%"=="Y" GOTO TWEAK
IF /I "%choice1%"=="Q" GOTO QOS
IF /I "%choice1%"=="D" GOTO DEFAULT
IF /I "%choice1%"=="N" GOTO CANCEL.........

Add the Q (QoS) choice that u forgot

and either u can add the start-end ports of tcp-udp dynamicportrange in patch and at the end u can use the following or something like that, for the end user.....

Code:

:SUCCESS
CLS
@ECHO             * PATCH WAS SUCCESFULLY APPLIED - PRESS ANY KEY TO EXIT *
netsh int tcp show global
@PAUSE
@ECHO            * THE TCP DYNAMIC PORTS RANGE THAT IS IN USE NOW ARE..... *  
netsh int ipv4 show dynamicportrange tcp
@PAUSE
@ECHO            * THE UDP DYNAMIC PORTS RANGE THAT IS IN USE NOW ARE..... * 
netsh int ipv4 show dynamicportrange udp
@PAUSE  
EXIT

just a thought

EDIT: I think the range of maxuserports is 5000-65534. The command that u wrote opens 65535. Correct me if i am wrong

**Ashdaw** · 03-21-09, 09:59 AM

I have Win 2008 server/workstation and I tried this but it didn't do anything for me? I was lucky that I have a dual boot with Win 7 and it allowed me to get back in and change the OLD tcpip.sys back so I could start my machine again.

I noticed that on you FTP you have so many TCP.ip.sys files, do I get the latest one that is 1.4mb or?

Thanks Philip for making this available though. I WILL try it again and see if I can do it properly THIS time

PS, I wish my speeds were as great as the guy on Comcast Cable, I would LOVE that

WILDfan · 03-22-09, 10:24 AM

As I am trying to open the Vista patch it only opens/saves as a text file...what do I need to do?

**mccoffee** · 03-23-09, 10:08 AM

right click the vista patch and make sure you run as administrator

**Zeriam** · 03-26-09, 04:22 PM

I read that the auto-tuning level can use a large amount of resources when using things such as BitTorrent and that it should be set to restricted or highlyrestricted, but I was wondering if it would benefit to set it to 'normal' since I have 4GB of RAM, or is it still not a good idea?

**100 010 00** · 03-27-09, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by Zeriam

I read that the auto-tuning level can use a large amount of resources when using things such as BitTorrent and that it should be set to restricted or highlyrestricted, but I was wondering if it would benefit to set it to 'normal' since I have 4GB of RAM, or is it still not a good idea?

dont worry ....... cause of that, vistas tcpip.sys, turns by itsself to default value when limits the connections and recources. open your bittorrent client and after half an hour try an analyzer and see the results

esix · 03-27-09, 12:59 PM

Hey guys I dont know if here's the right place to ask for help but I'll give it a go

« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »
Tested on: 03.27.2009 13:43
IP address: 79.117.xxx.xxx
Client OS: Windows Vista

TCP options string: 020405a001010402
MSS: 1440
MTU: 1480
TCP Window: 64800 (multiple of MSS)
RWIN Scaling: 0 bits
Unscaled RWIN : 64800
Recommended RWINs: 63360, 126720, 253440, 506880, 1013760
BDP limit (200ms): 2592kbps (324KBytes/s)
BDP limit (500ms): 1037kbps (130KBytes/s)
MTU Discovery: ON
TTL: 50
Timestamps: OFF
SACKs: ON
IP ToS: 00100000 (32)
Precedence: 001 (priority)
Delay: 0 (normal delay)
Throughput: 0 (normal throughput)
Reliability: 0 (normal reliability)
Cost: 0 (normal cost)
Check bit: 0 (correct)
DiffServ: CS1 001000 (8) - class 1 (RFC 2474). Similar forwarding behavior to the ToS Precedence field.

Now the thing is that i've used Vista Patcher and nothing happen
I am using Vista SP 2 and my internet connection is kinda of not working for the moment.

I've used sometime ago TCP Optimizer on Vista SP1 and the halfopen patch and they did wonders, but now everything went from ok to verry bad...