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    classgetter.com
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    Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

    Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

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    Chilly8
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    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com


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    "classgetter.com" <troyscene@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:01607c6a-6d2a-4d23-8f88-9b757771c8bc@m1g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
    > Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com



    Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
    I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
    proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
    listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
    their system.

    Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
    I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
    that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
    wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
    machine in Vietnam.



  3. #3
    Leythos
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    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

    In article <fua04k$gl6$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    > Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
    > I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
    > that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
    > wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
    > machine in Vietnam.


    Again, it's simple to see and catch, you keep thinking this is some kind
    of magic, finding people using an ENCRYPTED proxy is simple, even you
    could do it - maybe not you.

    --
    - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
    - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
    drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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  4. #4
    Chilly8
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    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com


    X-No-Archive: Yes


    "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
    news:MPG.2272722ad702fd8a9896db@adfree.usenet.com...
    > In article <fua04k$gl6$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
    >> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
    >> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
    >> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
    >> machine in Vietnam.

    >
    > Again, it's simple to see and catch, you keep thinking this is some kind
    > of magic, finding people using an ENCRYPTED proxy is simple, even you
    > could do it - maybe not you.
    >


    However, with the data encrypted, there is no way an admin
    is going to find out what is going in.

    And there is now one EXPENSIVE VPN solution that uses
    a proprietary encryption scheme, that cannot be intercepted
    via man-in-the-middle attacks. This US$3200 VPN package
    is the BEST on the MARKET, IMO, if you really want to
    have your activities not be discovered. The proprietary
    1024-bit military grade encryption cannot be eavesdropped
    upon.

    This program uses HEAVY encryption wih VPN. With this
    VPN server running, I KNOW that when I go to China,
    to broadcast a figure skating event, I can use Skype to
    run my talk show, despite Skype being illegal in China,
    and the Chinese authorities will NEVER know that I
    up to, because the proprietary encryption cannot be
    compromised with man-in-the-middle attacks, and
    cannot otherwise be cracked, analysed, monitored
    or sniffed.

    Anyone on your network could have this software
    installed on their PC at home, have a broadband
    connection (with multiple IPs), and can do what
    they want on the Net, and you will not be able to
    monitor it.



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    Sebastian G.
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    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

    Chilly8 wrote:

    > X-No-Archive: Yes
    >
    >
    > "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
    > news:MPG.2272722ad702fd8a9896db@adfree.usenet.com...
    >> In article <fua04k$gl6$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >>> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
    >>> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
    >>> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
    >>> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
    >>> machine in Vietnam.

    >> Again, it's simple to see and catch, you keep thinking this is some kind
    >> of magic, finding people using an ENCRYPTED proxy is simple, even you
    >> could do it - maybe not you.
    >>

    >
    > However, with the data encrypted, there is no way an admin
    > is going to find out what is going in.



    Unless he's monitoring the endpoint, you ****ing ignorant.

    > Anyone on your network could have this software
    > installed on their PC at home, have a broadband
    > connection (with multiple IPs), and can do what
    > they want on the Net,



    Or not, since one can detect and block, you ****ing ignorant.

    > and you will not be able to monitor it.



    One would still be able to monitor traffic and timing statistics, you
    ****ing ignorant.

  6. #6
    God Rudy
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    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

    On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:19:41 -0700, Chilly8 wrote:

    >
    > X-No-Archive: Yes
    >
    >
    > "classgetter.com" <troyscene@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:01607c6a-6d2a-4d23-8f88-9b757771c8bc@m1g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
    >> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

    >
    >
    > Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
    > I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
    > proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
    > listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
    > their system.
    >
    > Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
    > I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
    > that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
    > wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
    > machine in Vietnam.


    We fired a few people for wasting bandwith!


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    Chilly8
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    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com


    X-No-Archive: Yes


    "God Rudy" <rudy@mail.attic.ccc> wrote in message
    news:pan.2008.04.18.21.09.40.384965@mail.attic.ccc...
    > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:19:41 -0700, Chilly8 wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> X-No-Archive: Yes
    >>
    >>
    >> "classgetter.com" <troyscene@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:01607c6a-6d2a-4d23-8f88-9b757771c8bc@m1g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
    >>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

    >>
    >>
    >> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
    >> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
    >> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
    >> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
    >> their system.
    >>
    >> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
    >> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
    >> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
    >> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
    >> machine in Vietnam.

    >
    > We fired a few people for wasting bandwith!
    >


    Be careful. Unless you have the actual CONTENT of what
    was being downloaded, you had better NOT give ANY
    reference, one way or the other, if future employers call.
    Just say that they worked they worked there during a
    certain time period, but do NOT give any reference, good
    OR bad. Otherwise, they might SUE YOUR *ASS*
    OFF for defamation. This is why encryption can help
    youl. Sure they can still FIRE you, but WITHOUT the
    CONTENT of what was being downloaded, they do
    not DARE say anything to your future employer or
    employers

    That is the one caveat of firing somoene for inappropriate
    Internet usage. Unless you have the actual CONTENT of
    that was being downloading, you do not DARE give
    ANY negative reference to future employers. ONLY
    say that they worked there during a certain time period,
    and end the conversation there.



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    Chilly8
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    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com


    X-No-Archive: Yes


    "Chilly8" <chilly8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:fua04k$gl6$1@aioe.org...
    >
    > X-No-Archive: Yes
    >
    >
    > "classgetter.com" <troyscene@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:01607c6a-6d2a-4d23-8f88-9b757771c8bc@m1g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
    >> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

    >
    >
    > Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
    > I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
    > proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
    > listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
    > their system.
    >
    > Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
    > I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
    > that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
    > wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
    > machine in Vietnam.
    >


    Other people are runnig public Tor entry points now. I found one
    in Canada that is in one of the lists of open proxies. So anyone
    who wants to use Tor where the machine is locked down
    against new software installation can change the browser's
    proxy settings to use this proxy.

    Of course, he is FAR more likely to be blocked, then I
    am. Becusae they did not change the port number to
    something other than 8118, it will be a DEAD GIVEWAY
    in the logs, when admins see connections to port 8118
    on a strange computer in Canada, or to the Socks port
    on port 9050.

    If you are going to run a pubilc Tor entry proxy, like I do,
    here is a nickels worth of free advice. Change the ports
    to something OTHER than 8118 (HTTP) or 9050(Socks),
    otherwise it will be a DEAD GIVEAWAY they corporate
    network admins start sesing a connetion to port 8118 for
    HTTP or 9050 for Socks.

    This is why I set my Tor entry proxy to other ports,
    so it will not be so OBVIOUS to admins that someone
    is using a Tor entry proxy. All any admin would have
    to do is Google port 8118, and they would quickly
    find out that it is used by Tor and Privoxy.




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    Chilly8
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    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com


    X-No-Archive: Yes


    "Sebastian G." <seppi@seppig.de> wrote in message
    news:66sffeF2lere6U1@mid.dfncis.de...
    > Chilly8 wrote:
    >
    >> X-No-Archive: Yes
    >>
    >>
    >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.2272722ad702fd8a9896db@adfree.usenet.com...
    >>> In article <fua04k$gl6$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >>>> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
    >>>> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
    >>>> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
    >>>> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
    >>>> machine in Vietnam.
    >>> Again, it's simple to see and catch, you keep thinking this is some kind
    >>> of magic, finding people using an ENCRYPTED proxy is simple, even you
    >>> could do it - maybe not you.
    >>>

    >>
    >> However, with the data encrypted, there is no way an admin
    >> is going to find out what is going in.

    >
    >
    > Unless he's monitoring the endpoint, you ****ing ignorant.


    "monitoring the endpoint" will do not good, is the connetion
    is encrypted.




  10. #10
    Flash Gordon
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    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

    Chilly8 wrote, On 19/04/08 01:37:
    > X-No-Archive: Yes
    >
    >
    > "God Rudy" <rudy@mail.attic.ccc> wrote in message
    > news:pan.2008.04.18.21.09.40.384965@mail.attic.ccc...
    >> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:19:41 -0700, Chilly8 wrote:
    >>
    >>> X-No-Archive: Yes
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "classgetter.com" <troyscene@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:01607c6a-6d2a-4d23-8f88-9b757771c8bc@m1g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
    >>>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com
    >>>
    >>> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
    >>> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
    >>> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
    >>> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
    >>> their system.
    >>>
    >>> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
    >>> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
    >>> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
    >>> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
    >>> machine in Vietnam.

    >> We fired a few people for wasting bandwith!

    >
    > Be careful. Unless you have the actual CONTENT of what
    > was being downloaded, you had better NOT give ANY
    > reference, one way or the other, if future employers call.


    No, you don't need to know that. All you have to be able to do is prove
    that you have a policy preventing them from using proxies/VPNs/whatever
    and then show that they did, you don't need to show what they used it
    for only that they used it in breach of policy.

    > Just say that they worked they worked there during a
    > certain time period, but do NOT give any reference, good
    > OR bad. Otherwise, they might SUE YOUR *ASS*
    > OFF for defamation. This is why encryption can help
    > youl. Sure they can still FIRE you, but WITHOUT the
    > CONTENT of what was being downloaded, they do
    > not DARE say anything to your future employer or
    > employers


    Even if that is true the mere fact that the employment was terminated
    and it was not redundancy will count against the person. If the person
    ends up with lots of short periods of employment it will look even worse
    even if the employers will not specify why the employment was terminated.

    > That is the one caveat of firing somoene for inappropriate
    > Internet usage. Unless you have the actual CONTENT of
    > that was being downloading, you do not DARE give
    > ANY negative reference to future employers. ONLY
    > say that they worked there during a certain time period,
    > and end the conversation there.


    Most companies in the UK will only do that anyway. I used to work for a
    large company and that was the official policy even if the person was
    still employed and was a perfect employee.
    --
    Flash Gordon

  11. #11
    Flash Gordon
    Guest

    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

    Chilly8 wrote, On 19/04/08 01:58:
    > X-No-Archive: Yes
    >
    > "Chilly8" <chilly8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:fua04k$gl6$1@aioe.org...
    >> X-No-Archive: Yes
    >>
    >> "classgetter.com" <troyscene@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:01607c6a-6d2a-4d23-8f88-9b757771c8bc@m1g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
    >>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

    >>
    >> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
    >> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
    >> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
    >> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
    >> their system.
    >>
    >> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
    >> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
    >> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
    >> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
    >> machine in Vietnam.
    >>

    >
    > Other people are runnig public Tor entry points now. I found one
    > in Canada that is in one of the lists of open proxies. So anyone
    > who wants to use Tor where the machine is locked down
    > against new software installation can change the browser's
    > proxy settings to use this proxy.


    Not if the admin knows what he is doing. Machines should be locked down
    so that people cannot change the proxy setting (or any other important
    and sometimes unimportant setting).

    <snip>

    > This is why I set my Tor entry proxy to other ports,
    > so it will not be so OBVIOUS to admins that someone
    > is using a Tor entry proxy. All any admin would have
    > to do is Google port 8118, and they would quickly
    > find out that it is used by Tor and Privoxy.


    Or I could just block everything not known to be allowed. Or I could
    filter on the actual content (Linux kernels have had this ability for a
    while) rather than on what the port is blocking encrypted connections of
    any kind on ports or to places I don't know to be allowed.

  12. #12
    Flash Gordon
    Guest

    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

    Chilly8 wrote, On 19/04/08 10:12:
    > X-No-Archive: Yes
    >
    >
    > "Sebastian G." <seppi@seppig.de> wrote in message
    > news:66sffeF2lere6U1@mid.dfncis.de...
    >> Chilly8 wrote:
    >>
    >>> X-No-Archive: Yes
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
    >>> news:MPG.2272722ad702fd8a9896db@adfree.usenet.com...
    >>>> In article <fua04k$gl6$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >>>>> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
    >>>>> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
    >>>>> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
    >>>>> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
    >>>>> machine in Vietnam.
    >>>> Again, it's simple to see and catch, you keep thinking this is some kind
    >>>> of magic, finding people using an ENCRYPTED proxy is simple, even you
    >>>> could do it - maybe not you.
    >>>>
    >>> However, with the data encrypted, there is no way an admin
    >>> is going to find out what is going in.

    >>
    >> Unless he's monitoring the endpoint, you ****ing ignorant.

    >
    > "monitoring the endpoint" will do not good, is the connetion
    > is encrypted.


    It took me under a minute to find software I (as an admin) could install
    on users PCs to monitor all of the URLs visited and even tools that
    allow monitoring page content. These tools integrate in to the browser
    (they support multiple browsers) and monitor the browser rather than the
    network connection, so they are monitoring before outbound data is
    encrypted and after inbound data in decrypted, so it matters not whether
    the browsing is through an encrypted tunnel.
    --
    Flash Gordon

  13. #13
    Leythos
    Guest

    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

    In article <fuau9i$c35$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    > "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
    > news:MPG.2272722ad702fd8a9896db@adfree.usenet.com...
    > > In article <fua04k$gl6$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    > >> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
    > >> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
    > >> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
    > >> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
    > >> machine in Vietnam.

    > >
    > > Again, it's simple to see and catch, you keep thinking this is some kind
    > > of magic, finding people using an ENCRYPTED proxy is simple, even you
    > > could do it - maybe not you.
    > >

    >
    > However, with the data encrypted, there is no way an admin
    > is going to find out what is going in.


    But you don't understand the point - they have no school requirement for
    External VPN's - so they get busted for an easy to spot infraction.

    --
    - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
    - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
    drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
    spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

  14. #14
    Leythos
    Guest

    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

    In article <fubet2$df3$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    > "God Rudy" <rudy@mail.attic.ccc> wrote in message
    > news:pan.2008.04.18.21.09.40.384965@mail.attic.ccc...
    > > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:19:41 -0700, Chilly8 wrote:
    > >
    > >>
    > >> X-No-Archive: Yes
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> "classgetter.com" <troyscene@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > >> news:01607c6a-6d2a-4d23-8f88-9b757771c8bc@m1g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
    > >>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
    > >> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
    > >> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
    > >> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
    > >> their system.
    > >>
    > >> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
    > >> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
    > >> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
    > >> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
    > >> machine in Vietnam.

    > >
    > > We fired a few people for wasting bandwith!
    > >

    >
    > Be careful. Unless you have the actual CONTENT of what
    > was being downloaded, you had better NOT give ANY
    > reference, one way or the other, if future employers call.
    > Just say that they worked they worked there during a
    > certain time period, but do NOT give any reference, good
    > OR bad. Otherwise, they might SUE YOUR *ASS*
    > OFF for defamation.


    Wrong again, since the BANDWITH IS A COMPANY RESOURCE they are known to
    have been improperly useing company resources, effectively stealing.

    You could say that were fired for network abuse and leave it at that.

    --
    - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
    - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
    drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
    spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

  15. #15
    Volker Birk
    Guest

    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

    God Rudy <rudy@mail.attic.ccc> wrote:
    > We fired a few people for wasting bandwith!


    "Those who're supposing, bandwidth is for free,
    are thinkin' money is growin' on directory tree" ;-)

    SCNR,
    VB.
    --
    The file name of an indirect node file is the string "iNode" immediately
    followed by the link reference converted to decimal text, with no leading
    zeroes. For example, an indirect node file with link reference 123 would
    have the name "iNode123". - HFS Plus Volume Format, MacOS X

  16. #16
    Chilly8
    Guest

    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com


    X-No-Archive: Yes


    "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
    news:MPG.227424f01d4413c49896e0@adfree.usenet.com...
    > In article <fubet2$df3$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >> "God Rudy" <rudy@mail.attic.ccc> wrote in message
    >> news:pan.2008.04.18.21.09.40.384965@mail.attic.ccc...
    >> > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:19:41 -0700, Chilly8 wrote:
    >> >
    >> >>
    >> >> X-No-Archive: Yes
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> "classgetter.com" <troyscene@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> >> news:01607c6a-6d2a-4d23-8f88-9b757771c8bc@m1g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
    >> >>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
    >> >> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
    >> >> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
    >> >> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
    >> >> their system.
    >> >>
    >> >> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
    >> >> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
    >> >> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
    >> >> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
    >> >> machine in Vietnam.
    >> >
    >> > We fired a few people for wasting bandwith!
    >> >

    >>
    >> Be careful. Unless you have the actual CONTENT of what
    >> was being downloaded, you had better NOT give ANY
    >> reference, one way or the other, if future employers call.
    >> Just say that they worked they worked there during a
    >> certain time period, but do NOT give any reference, good
    >> OR bad. Otherwise, they might SUE YOUR *ASS*
    >> OFF for defamation.

    >
    > Wrong again, since the BANDWITH IS A COMPANY RESOURCE they are known to
    > have been improperly useing company resources, effectively stealing.
    >
    > You could say that were fired for network abuse and leave it at that.


    That sitll might keep you form getting you ass sued off. It is best
    just to say they worked there between a certain set of dates, and
    end it there. The best policy is to not say ANYTHING, other
    than that they worked between certain set of dates, and say
    NOTHING beyond that.



  17. #17
    Chilly8
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    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com


    X-No-Archive: Yes


    "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
    news:MPG.2274247e2a65882d9896df@adfree.usenet.com...
    > In article <fuau9i$c35$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.2272722ad702fd8a9896db@adfree.usenet.com...
    >> > In article <fua04k$gl6$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
    >> >> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
    >> >> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
    >> >> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
    >> >> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
    >> >> machine in Vietnam.
    >> >
    >> > Again, it's simple to see and catch, you keep thinking this is some
    >> > kind
    >> > of magic, finding people using an ENCRYPTED proxy is simple, even you
    >> > could do it - maybe not you.
    >> >

    >>
    >> However, with the data encrypted, there is no way an admin
    >> is going to find out what is going in.

    >
    > But you don't understand the point - they have no school requirement for
    > External VPN's - so they get busted for an easy to spot infraction.



    Well, with the EXTREME rules that Bob Jones University has, I
    canont blame them for looking for every POSSIBLE way to
    hide their activities. The no-tv-in-the-dorms rule is really tight,
    so I can cannot blame BJU students for using my VPN service
    to watch NCAA March Madness through my encrypted VPN
    service. KPIX, the CBS affliate in San Francisco, can be watched
    through TVU, and if they used an encrypted VPN service, such
    as mine, the admins will NEVER know that students were
    watching broadcast TV, in violation of college rules against watching
    broadcast TV in the dorms, specifically the NCAA post season
    basketball tournament.

    And I was NOT breaking ANY laws, by allowing BJU students
    to watch the NCAA playoffs and finals throuigh MY server.
    In other words, Bob Jones University CANNOT prosecute
    me, for allowing any BJU students to bypass the school filters
    and watch the NCAA basketball tournament. Since I GAVE
    them logins and passwords to my machine, they, in fact,
    had PERMISSION to access my machine, so neither, they, or
    I, could be prosecuted, either under federal law, or South
    Carolina state law (BJU is in South Carolina).




  18. #18
    Chilly8
    Guest

    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com


    X-No-Archive: Yes


    "Flash Gordon" <spam@flash-gordon.me.uk> wrote in message
    news:dhupd5xqa2.ln2@news.flash-gordon.me.uk...
    > Chilly8 wrote, On 19/04/08 01:58:
    >> X-No-Archive: Yes
    >>
    >> "Chilly8" <chilly8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:fua04k$gl6$1@aioe.org...
    >>> X-No-Archive: Yes
    >>>
    >>> "classgetter.com" <troyscene@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:01607c6a-6d2a-4d23-8f88-9b757771c8bc@m1g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
    >>>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com
    >>>
    >>> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
    >>> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
    >>> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
    >>> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
    >>> their system.
    >>>
    >>> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
    >>> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
    >>> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
    >>> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
    >>> machine in Vietnam.
    >>>

    >>
    >> Other people are runnig public Tor entry points now. I found one
    >> in Canada that is in one of the lists of open proxies. So anyone
    >> who wants to use Tor where the machine is locked down
    >> against new software installation can change the browser's
    >> proxy settings to use this proxy.

    >
    > Not if the admin knows what he is doing. Machines should be locked down so
    > that people cannot change the proxy setting (or any other important and
    > sometimes unimportant setting).


    However, Firefox cannot be locked down against proxy setting
    changes. I know of some people who use Firefox from work,
    to circumvent the fact that IE was locked down against proxy
    setting changes.

    This is why I had to change my radio station's streaming
    service to something that would be Firefox compatable.
    A lot of people were listening from work using this one
    "no-install" version of Firefox that apparently exists. Just
    download and use without installing.

    This is why a lot of businesses will continue to use Internet
    Explorer, is Firefox has the one flaw of NOT being able
    to lock down the proxy settings.


    >
    > <snip>
    >
    >> This is why I set my Tor entry proxy to other ports,
    >> so it will not be so OBVIOUS to admins that someone
    >> is using a Tor entry proxy. All any admin would have
    >> to do is Google port 8118, and they would quickly
    >> find out that it is used by Tor and Privoxy.

    >
    > Or I could just block everything not known to be allowed. Or I could
    > filter on the actual content (Linux kernels have had this ability for a


    However, WINDOWS is a MUST for business. When I was
    in college in a business major, it was DRUMMED INTO US,
    that Windows is a MUST for computing existence, in
    business, and that Bill Gates is GOD, when it comes to
    business computing.

    There is no POSSIBLE way a business can go totally
    Windows-free. Windows is a MUST for computing
    existence.




  19. #19
    Flash Gordon
    Guest

    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

    Chilly8 wrote, On 20/04/08 04:07:
    > X-No-Archive: Yes
    >
    >
    > "Flash Gordon" <spam@flash-gordon.me.uk> wrote in message
    > news:dhupd5xqa2.ln2@news.flash-gordon.me.uk...
    >> Chilly8 wrote, On 19/04/08 01:58:
    >>> X-No-Archive: Yes
    >>>
    >>> "Chilly8" <chilly8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:fua04k$gl6$1@aioe.org...
    >>>> X-No-Archive: Yes
    >>>>
    >>>> "classgetter.com" <troyscene@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:01607c6a-6d2a-4d23-8f88-9b757771c8bc@m1g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
    >>>>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com
    >>>> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
    >>>> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
    >>>> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
    >>>> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
    >>>> their system.
    >>>>
    >>>> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
    >>>> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
    >>>> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
    >>>> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
    >>>> machine in Vietnam.
    >>>>
    >>> Other people are runnig public Tor entry points now. I found one
    >>> in Canada that is in one of the lists of open proxies. So anyone
    >>> who wants to use Tor where the machine is locked down
    >>> against new software installation can change the browser's
    >>> proxy settings to use this proxy.

    >> Not if the admin knows what he is doing. Machines should be locked down so
    >> that people cannot change the proxy setting (or any other important and
    >> sometimes unimportant setting).

    >
    > However, Firefox cannot be locked down against proxy setting
    > changes. I know of some people who use Firefox from work,
    > to circumvent the fact that IE was locked down against proxy
    > setting changes.


    So how will you use firefox when the PC is licked down so you can't
    install or run unapproved SW?

    Some companies don't lock things down, that does not mean it isn't easy
    to do.

    <snip>

    >>> This is why I set my Tor entry proxy to other ports,
    >>> so it will not be so OBVIOUS to admins that someone
    >>> is using a Tor entry proxy. All any admin would have
    >>> to do is Google port 8118, and they would quickly
    >>> find out that it is used by Tor and Privoxy.

    >> Or I could just block everything not known to be allowed. Or I could
    >> filter on the actual content (Linux kernels have had this ability for a

    >
    > However, WINDOWS is a MUST for business.


    Complete rubbish. In any case, I was referring to what you use as a
    firewall, and any sensible organisation will not be using Windows as a
    firewall. They often won't use Linux either, but commercial firewalls
    have all sorts of useful tricks like this as well.

    > When I was
    > in college in a business major, it was DRUMMED INTO US,
    > that Windows is a MUST for computing existence, in
    > business, and that Bill Gates is GOD, when it comes to
    > business computing.


    All the errors in this have already been pointed out.

    > There is no POSSIBLE way a business can go totally
    > Windows-free. Windows is a MUST for computing
    > existence.


    Apart from the fact that this is wrong it is also irrelevant. Filtering
    like this would not be done on the users PC it is done on whatever you
    use as a firewall. I had assumed this was obvious (and I'm sure it is to
    everyone here apart from you).
    --
    Flash Gordon

  20. #20
    Jens Hoffmann
    Guest

    Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com


    > However, Firefox cannot be locked down against proxy setting
    > changes. I know of some people who use Firefox from work,
    > to circumvent the fact that IE was locked down against proxy
    > setting changes.


    There is no need to "lockdown" a browser to control
    outgoing traffic.

    > However, WINDOWS is a MUST for business.


    Not really.

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