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  1. #1
    Ckyp
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    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?


    "W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote:
    >What are some of the better choices (see Subject), free or commercial? Are
    >there some reviews on this topic?


    I like the freeware "Comodo" firewall:

    http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/

    I do find it necessary to disable it, though, whenever I install a new program.
    You can "switch to installation mode", but then it will keep nagging you if you
    want to switch back. Apart from that nagging problem, it seems to work as
    advertised. And it's a big improvement over previous versions of this firewall.

    I don't know much about it, but I've read that a hardware firewall is supposed
    to provide more security, at an added cost.

    --


  2. #2
    M.L.
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?

    >> What are some of the better choices (see Subject), free or
    >> commercial? Are there some reviews on this topic?

    >
    > I like the freeware "Comodo" firewall:
    >
    > http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/
    >
    > I do find it necessary to disable it, though, whenever I install a
    > new program. You can "switch to installation mode", but then it will
    > keep nagging you if you want to switch back. Apart from that nagging
    > problem, it seems to work as advertised. And it's a big improvement
    > over previous versions of this firewall.
    >
    > I don't know much about it, but I've read that a hardware firewall
    > is supposed to provide more security, at an added cost.


    I use it in the "Train with Safe Mode" and turn off the Proactive
    Defense. I only get nagged the 1st time an app tries to access the
    Internet, and that's only for apps that Comodo doesn't recognize. I
    think it can be one of the less annoying firewalls. And it's highly
    rated too.


  3. #3
    David H. Lipman
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?

    From: "Ckyp" <ckypper@crew>

    |
    | "W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote:
    >> What are some of the better choices (see Subject), free or commercial? Are
    >> there some reviews on this topic?

    |
    | I like the freeware "Comodo" firewall:
    |
    | http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/
    |
    | I do find it necessary to disable it, though, whenever I install a new program.
    | You can "switch to installation mode", but then it will keep nagging you if you
    | want to switch back. Apart from that nagging problem, it seems to work as
    | advertised. And it's a big improvement over previous versions of this firewall.
    |
    | I don't know much about it, but I've read that a hardware firewall is supposed
    | to provide more security, at an added cost.
    |

    Hardware based FireWall appliances are far better then software FireWalls and don't hog
    resources.

    Even a NAT Router with simplistic FireWall constructs is preferred.

    Such devices can also be monitored with software such as WallWatcher.
    http://www.wallwatcher.com/

    --
    Dave
    http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



  4. #4
    =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=A7?=
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?

    David H. Lipman wrote:
    > From: "Ckyp" <ckypper@crew>
    >
    > |
    > | "W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote:
    >>> What are some of the better choices (see Subject), free or commercial? Are
    >>> there some reviews on this topic?

    > |
    > | I like the freeware "Comodo" firewall:
    > |
    > | http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/
    > |
    > | I do find it necessary to disable it, though, whenever I install a new program.
    > | You can "switch to installation mode", but then it will keep nagging you if you
    > | want to switch back. Apart from that nagging problem, it seems to work as
    > | advertised. And it's a big improvement over previous versions of this firewall.
    > |
    > | I don't know much about it, but I've read that a hardware firewall is supposed
    > | to provide more security, at an added cost.
    > |
    >
    > Hardware based FireWall appliances are far better then software FireWalls and don't hog
    > resources.
    >
    > Even a NAT Router with simplistic FireWall constructs is preferred.


    Bingo!

    Another solution; acquire a obsolete pc via freecycle, add a spare nic
    and cruise on over to ipcop.com and grab the iso.

    >
    > Such devices can also be monitored with software such as WallWatcher.
    > http://www.wallwatcher.com/
    >


    My minimal experience with wallwatcher has been most positive.

  5. #5
    M.L.
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?

    >> I don't know much about it, but I've read that a hardware firewall
    >> is supposed to provide more security, at an added cost.


    > Hardware based FireWall appliances are far better then software
    > FireWalls and don't hog resources.
    >
    > Even a NAT Router with simplistic FireWall constructs is preferred.


    Outbound protection only though.

    > Such devices can also be monitored with software such as WallWatcher.
    > http://www.wallwatcher.com/


  6. #6
    David H. Lipman
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?

    From: "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid>

    >>> I don't know much about it, but I've read that a hardware firewall
    >>> is supposed to provide more security, at an added cost.

    |
    >> Hardware based FireWall appliances are far better then software
    >> FireWalls and don't hog resources.
    >>
    >> Even a NAT Router with simplistic FireWall constructs is preferred.

    |
    | Outbound protection only though.
    |

    Not true at all !

    --
    Dave
    http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



  7. #7
    Leythos
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?

    In article <wA7sj.6869$R84.5236@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
    me@privacy.invalid says...
    > >> I don't know much about it, but I've read that a hardware firewall
    > >> is supposed to provide more security, at an added cost.

    >
    > > Hardware based FireWall appliances are far better then software
    > > FireWalls and don't hog resources.
    > >
    > > Even a NAT Router with simplistic FireWall constructs is preferred.

    >
    > Outbound protection only though.


    Actually, even the simple NAT appliances provide INBOUND protection from
    unsolicited traffic/scanning. As a matter of fact, in a 1:MANY NAT,
    which is how those cheap appliances are setup, unless you poke a hole in
    it, and the default is no holes mapped, you won't get any Unsolicited
    traffic inside the LAN.

    Additionally, most of the cheap NAT routers offer a way to make ports
    LOCAL, that can't leave your LAN - and I always make ports 135-139, 445,
    1433-1434 local ports.

    When you combine the cheap NAT routers with monitoring software like
    wallwatcher you have an effective means to monitor in/out traffic from
    your NAT appliance.

    --

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    Fight exposing kids to porn, complain about sites like PCBUTTS 1.COM
    that create filth and put it on the web for any kid to see: Just take a
    look at some of the FILTH he's created and put on his website:
    http://forums.speedguide.net/archive.../t-223485.html all exposed
    to children (the link I've include does not directly display his filth).
    You can find the same information by googling for 'PCBUTTS1' and
    'exposed to kids'.

  8. #8
    huck
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?


    "Ckyp" <ckypper@crew> wrote in message
    news:e841e83ed0afbe0dea6cf0c466b1aab3@nymkey.com...
    >
    > "W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote:
    >>What are some of the better choices (see Subject), free or commercial? Are
    >>there some reviews on this topic?

    >
    > I like the freeware "Comodo" firewall:
    >
    > http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/
    >
    > I do find it necessary to disable it, though, whenever I install a new
    > program.
    > You can "switch to installation mode", but then it will keep nagging you
    > if you
    > want to switch back. Apart from that nagging problem, it seems to work as
    > advertised. And it's a big improvement over previous versions of this
    > firewall.
    >
    > I don't know much about it, but I've read that a hardware firewall is
    > supposed
    > to provide more security, at an added cost.
    >
    > --CKYP= the problem with Comdo firewall I cant update it never= and i have
    > tried everything to unstall Comdo firewall but it will NOT unstallit all I
    > want is to be able to update it. can you give me any help on this= THANKS
    >




  9. #9
    Ckyp
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?


    "huck" <fish254@cox.net> wrote:
    >"Ckyp" <ckypper@crew> wrote in message
    >news:e841e83ed0afbe0dea6cf0c466b1aab3@nymkey.com...
    >>
    >> "W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote:
    >>>What are some of the better choices (see Subject), free or commercial? Are
    >>>there some reviews on this topic?

    >>
    >> I like the freeware "Comodo" firewall:
    >>
    >> http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/
    >>
    >> I do find it necessary to disable it, though, whenever I install a new
    >> program.
    >> You can "switch to installation mode", but then it will keep nagging you
    >> if you
    >> want to switch back. Apart from that nagging problem, it seems to work as
    >> advertised. And it's a big improvement over previous versions of this
    >> firewall.
    >>
    >> I don't know much about it, but I've read that a hardware firewall is
    >> supposed
    >> to provide more security, at an added cost.
    >>
    >> --CKYP= the problem with Comdo firewall I cant update it never= and i have
    >> tried everything to unstall Comdo firewall but it will NOT unstallit all I
    >> want is to be able to update it. can you give me any help on this= THANKS
    >>


    This is a secret code, so don't give it out to anyone. It is posted here:
    http://tinyurl.com/2aryzy

    Insert the line of code appearing in the window, and it will allow you to uninstall
    and update the installation directory.

    --


















  10. #10
    Richard Steinfeld
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?

    wrote:
    > David H. Lipman wrote:


    >> | I don't know much about it, but I've read that a hardware firewall
    >> is supposed
    >> | to provide more security, at an added cost.
    >> |
    >>
    >> Hardware based FireWall appliances are far better then software
    >> FireWalls and don't hog
    >> resources.
    >>
    >> Even a NAT Router with simplistic FireWall constructs is preferred.

    >
    > Bingo!
    >
    > Another solution; acquire a obsolete pc via freecycle, add a spare nic
    > and cruise on over to ipcop.com and grab the iso.
    >
    >>
    >> Such devices can also be monitored with software such as WallWatcher.
    >> http://www.wallwatcher.com/
    >>

    >
    > My minimal experience with wallwatcher has been most positive.


    This brings up a whole 'nother approach for me.
    I've been using the final free Sygate Personal Firewall on my PCs for
    some time now, and I greatly regret Symantec's purchase and trashing of
    the product. I've actually used Sygate in both free and bundled forms
    for 7 years (hint: the free version was better!). I like the way that it
    works -- a perfect balance between sensible operation, good performance,
    usability (no small consideration) and resource use (another important
    aspect of a security program). But the free version does have a glass
    cieling: a limit on the amount of custom rules it'll accept, and I've
    banged against that limit.

    Now, about a hardware firewall:

    I've got two old PCs. One is a 486, 100kc speed, can't recall the memory
    (it's maxed out for whatever its limit is) -- something like a 2g hard
    drive. I've got Dos 6.22, Windows 3.11 for it. I've also got original
    install disks for Windows 95 and Windows XP (home upgrade).

    The second PC is a laptop with W95 on it. I don't have specs. It's
    working fine. This laptop is so primitive that it doesn't even have any
    CD drive on it -- just a floppy and a HD.

    I'd appreciate knowing if either of these machines can make sense as a
    hardware firewall.

    I apologize for replying in the same cross-posting that the OP used.

    TIA

    Richard

  11. #11
    David H. Lipman
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?

    From: "Richard Steinfeld" <rgsteinBUTREMOVETHIS@sonicANDTHISTOO.net>


    |
    | This brings up a whole 'nother approach for me.
    | I've been using the final free Sygate Personal Firewall on my PCs for
    | some time now, and I greatly regret Symantec's purchase and trashing of
    | the product. I've actually used Sygate in both free and bundled forms
    | for 7 years (hint: the free version was better!). I like the way that it
    | works -- a perfect balance between sensible operation, good performance,
    | usability (no small consideration) and resource use (another important
    | aspect of a security program). But the free version does have a glass
    | cieling: a limit on the amount of custom rules it'll accept, and I've
    | banged against that limit.
    |
    | Now, about a hardware firewall:
    |
    | I've got two old PCs. One is a 486, 100kc speed, can't recall the memory
    | (it's maxed out for whatever its limit is) -- something like a 2g hard
    | drive. I've got Dos 6.22, Windows 3.11 for it. I've also got original
    | install disks for Windows 95 and Windows XP (home upgrade).
    |
    | The second PC is a laptop with W95 on it. I don't have specs. It's
    | working fine. This laptop is so primitive that it doesn't even have any
    | CD drive on it -- just a floppy and a HD.
    |
    | I'd appreciate knowing if either of these machines can make sense as a
    | hardware firewall.
    |
    | I apologize for replying in the same cross-posting that the OP used.
    |
    | TIA
    |
    | Richard

    The latency on said platforms would be high. A COTS dedicated appliance would be faster.

    Think of it as walking on pavement and then you come across a 20 ft section of mud and then
    pavement again.

    --
    Dave
    http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



  12. #12
    Leythos
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?

    In article <13r4jfktajrkh0e@corp.supernews.com>,
    rgsteinBUTREMOVETHIS@sonicANDTHISTOO.net says...
    > Now, about a hardware firewall:
    >
    > I've got two old PCs. One is a 486, 100kc speed, can't recall the memory
    > (it's maxed out for whatever its limit is) -- something like a 2g hard
    > drive. I've got Dos 6.22, Windows 3.11 for it. I've also got original
    > install disks for Windows 95 and Windows XP (home upgrade).
    >
    > The second PC is a laptop with W95 on it. I don't have specs. It's
    > working fine. This laptop is so primitive that it doesn't even have any
    > CD drive on it -- just a floppy and a HD.
    >
    > I'd appreciate knowing if either of these machines can make sense as a
    > hardware firewall.


    Laptops are not designed to run 24/7, they can have cooling issues.

    An old 486 might run a nix version, but you would be better off with a
    P2 or P3 machine, or purchasing an appliance, in the long run it would
    save you much time, which is money for most.

    --

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    - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
    drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
    spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

  13. #13
    David H. Lipman
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?

    From: "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan>


    |
    | Laptops are not designed to run 24/7, they can have cooling issues.
    |
    | An old 486 might run a nix version, but you would be better off with a
    | P2 or P3 machine, or purchasing an appliance, in the long run it would
    | save you much time, which is money for most.
    |

    Just from comparing the power consumption issue of a COTS FireWall appliance vs. a PC setup
    as a FireWall you would save money.

    --
    Dave
    http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



  14. #14
    Craig
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?

    David H. Lipman wrote:
    > From: "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan>
    >
    >
    > |
    > | Laptops are not designed to run 24/7, they can have cooling issues.
    > |
    > | An old 486 might run a nix version, but you would be better off with a
    > | P2 or P3 machine, or purchasing an appliance, in the long run it would
    > | save you much time, which is money for most.
    > |
    >
    > Just from comparing the power consumption issue of a COTS FireWall appliance vs. a PC setup
    > as a FireWall you would save money.
    >


    But, if the OP insists ... they might want to check out FreeNAS. Not
    Linux but Unix (FreeBSD). The blurb:

    > FreeNAS
    > https://sourceforge.net/projects/freenas
    > NAS (Network Attached Storage) server supporting: CIFS, FTP, NFS, RSYNC,
    > SSH, AFP, Unison, UPnP, iSCSI protocols, local and MS Domain
    > authentication, Software RAID (JBOD,0,1,5), disk encryption with a Full
    > WEB configuration interface. 32MB only.



  15. #15
    Craig
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?

    Craig wrote:
    > David H. Lipman wrote:
    >> From: "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan>
    >>
    >>
    >> |
    >> | Laptops are not designed to run 24/7, they can have cooling issues.
    >> |
    >> | An old 486 might run a nix version, but you would be better off with a
    >> | P2 or P3 machine, or purchasing an appliance, in the long run it would
    >> | save you much time, which is money for most.
    >> |
    >>
    >> Just from comparing the power consumption issue of a COTS FireWall
    >> appliance vs. a PC setup
    >> as a FireWall you would save money.
    >>

    >
    > But, if the OP insists ... they might want to check out FreeNAS. Not
    > Linux but Unix (FreeBSD). The blurb:
    >
    >> FreeNAS
    >> https://sourceforge.net/projects/freenas
    >> NAS (Network Attached Storage) server supporting: CIFS, FTP, NFS, RSYNC,
    >> SSH, AFP, Unison, UPnP, iSCSI protocols, local and MS Domain
    >> authentication, Software RAID (JBOD,0,1,5), disk encryption with a Full
    >> WEB configuration interface. 32MB only.

    >


    Sorry, brain-fart. The thread is about firewall and I jump up and down
    about a NAS.

    <eh>

    -Craig

  16. #16
    leonardodiserpierodavinci@gmail.com
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?

    On Feb 13, 2:57 am, Richard Steinfeld
    <rgsteinBUTREMOVET...@sonicANDTHISTOO.net> wrote:

    > I've been using the final free Sygate Personal Firewall on my PCs for
    > some time now, and I greatly regret Symantec's purchase and trashing of
    > the product. I've actually used Sygate in both free and bundled forms
    > for 7 years (hint: the free version was better!). I like the way that it
    > works -- a perfect balance between sensible operation, good performance,
    > usability (no small consideration) and resource use (another important
    > aspect of a security program).


    I used the free SPF, and I completely agree with you.
    Now I use Kerio Personal Firewall (http://www.sunbelt-software.com/
    Home-Home-Office/Sunbelt-Personal-Firewall) and I am quite happy with
    it.
    ZoneAlarm is a popular freeware firewall but IMHO its default policies
    concerning outbound traffic are too loose. And it is not so easy to
    use and configure. I would not recommend ZA.

    Just my two cents (well, let's say one).

  17. #17
    David H. Lipman
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?

    From: "Craig" <netburgher@REMOVEgmail.com>


    | But, if the OP insists ... they might want to check out FreeNAS. Not
    | Linux but Unix (FreeBSD). The blurb:
    |
    >> FreeNAS
    >> https://sourceforge.net/projects/freenas
    >> NAS (Network Attached Storage) server supporting: CIFS, FTP, NFS, RSYNC,
    >> SSH, AFP, Unison, UPnP, iSCSI protocols, local and MS Domain
    >> authentication, Software RAID (JBOD,0,1,5), disk encryption with a Full
    >> WEB configuration interface. 32MB only.


    The advantage of a PC setup as a FireWall is greater flexibility and configuration
    possibilities.

    However, I would look as optimizing the the networking to decrease latency. That is using
    the best NICs. Such as using 64 bit PCI which runs at the PCI bus speed 66MHz vis PCI 32bit
    which only runs at 33MHz. You would also want a PC that has the fast bus throughput.

    --
    Dave
    http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



  18. #18
    louise
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?

    Ckyp wrote:
    > "W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote:
    >> What are some of the better choices (see Subject), free or commercial? Are
    >> there some reviews on this topic?

    >
    > I like the freeware "Comodo" firewall:
    >
    > http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/
    >
    > I do find it necessary to disable it, though, whenever I install a new program.
    > You can "switch to installation mode", but then it will keep nagging you if you
    > want to switch back. Apart from that nagging problem, it seems to work as
    > advertised. And it's a big improvement over previous versions of this firewall.
    >
    > I don't know much about it, but I've read that a hardware firewall is supposed
    > to provide more security, at an added cost.
    >
    > --
    >

    I used to use Sygate, had all kinds of conflicts with Comodo
    in addition to its endless nagging.

    I'm now using Online Armor free in addition to an NAT
    Router. I like Online Armor very much and find it's "nags"
    are clear and informative.

    Louise

  19. #19
    Straight Talk
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?

    On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:55:51 -0500, louise <louise@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    >I'm now using Online Armor free in addition to an NAT
    >Router. I like Online Armor very much and find it's "nags"
    >are clear and informative.


    What about the nags you don't get?

  20. #20
    Gary R. Schmidt
    Guest

    Re: Firewall Software Recommendations?

    David H. Lipman wrote:
    > From: "Craig" <netburgher@REMOVEgmail.com>
    >
    >
    > | But, if the OP insists ... they might want to check out FreeNAS. Not
    > | Linux but Unix (FreeBSD). The blurb:
    > |
    >>> FreeNAS
    >>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/freenas
    >>> NAS (Network Attached Storage) server supporting: CIFS, FTP, NFS, RSYNC,
    >>> SSH, AFP, Unison, UPnP, iSCSI protocols, local and MS Domain
    >>> authentication, Software RAID (JBOD,0,1,5), disk encryption with a Full
    >>> WEB configuration interface. 32MB only.

    >
    > The advantage of a PC setup as a FireWall is greater flexibility and configuration
    > possibilities.
    >
    > However, I would look as optimizing the the networking to decrease latency. That is using
    > the best NICs. Such as using 64 bit PCI which runs at the PCI bus speed 66MHz vis PCI 32bit
    > which only runs at 33MHz. You would also want a PC that has the fast bus throughput.
    >

    And NIC's that offload the processing from the CPU. Intel e1000-based
    cards do that, among many others, no doubt.

    Cheers,
    Gary B-)

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