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    Has Russia got the US beat?

    If you are interested in fighter plains this might be of interest.

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    have seen this before ... its a matter of opinion that this is the best fighter jet in the world ... even if this jet outperforms the raptor, without the pilot it's a paperweight and the us has the best pilots in the world
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    It is no doubt impressive in its ability to stall in flight without compressor failure, but what good is it stalling like a kite when it's shot down from 15 miles away? It says nothing of avionics, targeting and weaponry.
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    They can build one... but can they maintain them? That's always been a problem.
    People will forget what you said... and people will forget what you did... but people will never forget how you made them feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    have seen this before ... its a matter of opinion that this is the best fighter jet in the world ... even if this jet outperforms the raptor, without the pilot it's a paperweight and the us has the best pilots in the world
    Best in the world eh. Maybe you should stick to best in the USA. In the play fights they have with the Canadian pilots they loose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklab View Post
    Best in the world eh. Maybe you should stick to best in the USA. In the play fights they have with the Canadian pilots they loose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklab View Post
    Best in the world eh. Maybe you should stick to best in the USA. In the play fights they have with the Canadian pilots they loose.
    Now now.... they "loose" on purpose.


    (blinks eyes and looks innocent)

    Gosh!!!! You sure won that fight. Want to put some money on the next one?!?!?!
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    Does the pilot even matter anymore. Nowadays it's all about stealth and blowing away planes miles away before they even know you're there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholy View Post
    Does the pilot even matter anymore. Nowadays it's all about stealth and blowing away planes miles away before they even know you're there.
    Nope, you gotta have a pilot. Computers don't brag, or drink beer.

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    Japan has you all beat....




    Since we won't deliver the F-22 to Japan, they said, screw you, we'll make our own but better.

    ...formerly the omnipotent UOD

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    Quote Originally Posted by UOD View Post
    Japan has you all beat....




    Since we won't deliver the F-22 to Japan, they said, screw you, we'll make our own but better.
    Sweet!!!!! How much down... and what are the monthly payments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UOD View Post
    Japan has you all beat....




    Since we won't deliver the F-22 to Japan, they said, screw you, we'll make our own but better.
    What I want to know is how many miles per gallon it gets, and does it come in any other colours? I don't suppose you have any deals for cash?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklab View Post
    If you are interested in fighter plains this might be of interest.

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    Great camera work on that video.
    See the canards working hard in some of those maneuvers.

    The SU-27/30 Flanker came about a while ago, to beat current (at that time) Allied air superiority fighters..such as the aging F-15. And it did..hands down.

    Doing somersaults without appreciable loss of altitude, impressive drop to zero speed times, and flat spins "on the spot"...she can be evasive..but it takes quite a pilot to wring it out of her. Russia isn't historically known for top pilot training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmo66 View Post
    It is no doubt impressive in its ability to stall in flight without compressor failure, but what good is it stalling like a kite when it's shot down from 15 miles away? It says nothing of avionics, targeting and weaponry.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholy View Post
    Does the pilot even matter anymore. Nowadays it's all about stealth and blowing away planes miles away before they even know you're there.
    bigmo..some basics are covered mid-section of this link...

    Unholy...covers your question a bit down towards the bottom of this link...

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ia/su-30mk.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklab View Post
    In the play fights .

    thats why
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    thats why
    Good thing too, otherwise the US would have fewer planes flying.

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    Seen the f22 fly tons of times, they use the same airport as vmfa142, my f18a+ squadron. An f16 can take off, turn around, and fly at 250 towards the idle f22 on the runway. The f22 guns its engines, kicks in thrust vectoring, and is behind the f16 all inside of 15 seconds.

    The f22 is stealth capable, has the best flight systems in the world, and at save a lot of time is flat out the best aircraft in the world atm.

    Seriously, if there is a air show next to you and the 22 is making an appearance by all means drop what your doing and go. If the pilot is allowed to really show it off it would put everything else to shame in your mind.

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    Side by side video, mostly the same manuvers from what I can tell.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_za3KfMFKLk
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklab View Post
    Good thing too, otherwise the US would have fewer planes flying.
    You mean like the 12 that the Canuck armed forces have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklab View Post
    Good thing too, otherwise the US would have fewer planes flying.
    i think you are too confident in your pilots ... i have not read or heard anything about them being good let alone the best ... any info to read?
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