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    Connection Speed: Help!

    Hi,

    I've been having troubles with my connection lately. I'm a gamer and the pings I'm facing are just impossible to play with. A week ago, my connection was 2.5 MB download/200 KB upload, and the pings of other gaming servers varied between 200 to 800 (!). I was fed up with this and decided to purchase a new connection from the same ISP - 6 MB download/600 KB upload.
    It's been two days since the upgrade, and I didnt notice ANY improvement with my pings.
    According to tests at Speedtest.net, my connection is fine with servers from my country, but when I test with servers from another, my connection drops from 6MB to, usually, 1MB!

    Also, I'm located in the Middle East (Israeli), which due to its geographical location, affects my connection. Nevertheless, something is wrong; connections shouldnt drop by 5MBs JUST because of the long distance between servers. It cannot be that after an upgrade from 2.5MB dl to 6MB dl my pings are still the same!
    Oh and if it helps, I used your TCP Optimizer a couple of times before, and done one 20 mins before creating this thread.



    Please, I'm desperate for help!

    Thanks in advance,
    Dan

    P.S could you tell me what aspects affect the MS ping? is it DL speed? UP speed? what?

    TCP Analyzer:

    SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results
    Tested on: 10.18.2007 07:38
    IP address: 89.139.xxx.xxx

    TCP options string: 020405500103030201010402
    MSS: 1360
    MTU: 1400
    TCP Window: 261120 (multiple of MSS)
    RWIN Scaling: 2
    Unscaled RWIN : 65280
    Reccomended RWINs: 65280, 130560, 261120, 522240
    BDP limit (200ms): 10445kbps (1306KBytes/s)
    BDP limit (500ms): 4178kbps (522KBytes/s)
    MTU Discovery: ON
    TTL: 44
    Timestamps: OFF
    SACKs: ON
    IP ToS: 00000000 (0)
    Last edited by pazazman; 10-18-07 at 06:39 AM. Reason: tcp analyzer

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    if your ISP is the problem before hand and you stay with them and thus just raise the bar in what you want to get that doesn't mean they don't have a problem. Check with them on your issue...but make sure your comp is clean of junk and other apps that might gobble up bandwidth and so on before calling them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sava700 View Post
    if your ISP is the problem before hand and you stay with them and thus just raise the bar in what you want to get that doesn't mean they don't have a problem. Check with them on your issue...but make sure your comp is clean of junk and other apps that might gobble up bandwidth and so on before calling them.
    I don't think that the problem is with my ISP. My connection works exactly as it should when I connect to servers from my country. However when it comes to servers from other countries, naturally my connection is reduced. However, the decrease in speed when connecting to servers from other countries is too drastic. I mean, it should be reduced by 500 KBs, 1 MB max, no? (I'm no expert so correct me on that), but it is reduced by approx. 5 MBs!

    I think that the problem is with my ports, but then again I'm no expert.

    Help please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pazazman View Post
    I don't think that the problem is with my ISP. My connection works exactly as it should when I connect to servers from my country. However when it comes to servers from other countries, naturally my connection is reduced. However, the decrease in speed when connecting to servers from other countries is too drastic. I mean, it should be reduced by 500 KBs, 1 MB max, no? (I'm no expert so correct me on that), but it is reduced by approx. 5 MBs!

    I think that the problem is with my ports, but then again I'm no expert.

    Help please.
    its all in the routing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sava700 View Post
    its all in the routing...
    Please elaborate more?

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    Please, I need help! My ping with servers is even WORSE than before the connection upgrade. What's wrong?

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    Try the following with TCP Optimizer:

    General Settings tab:
    Custom settings - check
    Modify All Network Adapters - check
    network adapter selection - your NIC
    MTU 1400
    TTL - 64
    TCP Receive Window - 65280
    MTU Discovery - Yes
    Black Hole Detect - No
    Selective Acks - Yes
    Max Duplicate ACKs - 2
    TCP 1323 Options:
    Windows Scaling - uncheck
    Timestamps - uncheck

    Advanced Settings tab:
    Max Connections per Server - 10
    Max Connections per 1.0 Server - 20
    LocalPriority - 1
    Host Priority - 1
    DNSPriority - 1
    NetbtPriority - 1
    Lan Browsing speedup - optimized
    QoS: NonBestEffortLimit - 0
    ToS: DisableUserTOSSetting - 0
    ToS: DefaultTOSValue - 80
    MaxNegativeCacheTtl - 0
    NetFailureCacheTime - 0
    NegativeSOACache Time - 0
    LAN Request Buffer Size - 32768
    Then select "Apply Changes" and reboot to take effect

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    Thanks, your help is much appreciated. However it didn't work, only made things worse by 50~100 ms ping more.

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    Do a tracert to www.yahoo.com and post.

    To do a tracert, click 'Start' and then 'Run'. Type "cmd" into the box and click 'ok'.

    A DOS black screen will appear. Type after the C:\>

    tracert www.yahoo.com

    and press enter key

    When test is completed, move mouse cursor to the DOS black screen, click right and choose 'select all'.

    Move mouse cursor to the Quick Reply box of this forum, click right and 'paste'.

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    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert www.yahoo.com

    Tracing route to www.yahoo-ht3.akadns.net [87.248.113.14]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 7 ms 8 ms 8 ms lo0.cab07.ptk.nv.net.il [212.143.208.139]
    2 8 ms * 22 ms vl201.coresw1.ptk.nv.net.il [212.143.228.254]
    3 8 ms 7 ms 17 ms ge3-0.gw2.ptk.nv.net.il [212.143.10.194]
    4 181 ms 167 ms 161 ms pos2-6.brdr1.lnd.nv.net.il [212.143.12.3]
    5 154 ms 150 ms 161 ms ldn-tch-i1-link.telia.net [213.248.100.101]
    6 * * * Request timed out.
    7 * * * Request timed out.
    8 163 ms 161 ms 160 ms dln-b1-link.telia.net [80.91.251.50]
    9 162 ms 168 ms 162 ms yahoo-115023-dln-b1.c.telia.net [213.155.141.182
    ]
    10 * 163 ms 161 ms ge-1-3.bas-b2.ird.yahoo.com [87.248.101.7]
    11 160 ms 162 ms 159 ms f1.us.www.vip.ird.yahoo.com [87.248.113.14]

    Trace complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pazazman View Post
    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert www.yahoo.com

    Tracing route to www.yahoo-ht3.akadns.net [87.248.113.14]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 7 ms 8 ms 8 ms lo0.cab07.ptk.nv.net.il [212.143.xxx.xxx]
    2 8 ms * 22 ms vl201.coresw1.ptk.nv.net.il [212.143.228.254]
    Irregular ping times at hop 2 indicate possible fault from modem to the your ISP's switch..

    Check for possible loose connector/wiring or faulty splitter along the connection from modem to the wall jack.

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    I'm still willing to bet its the ISP's problem... in general how your "Routed" through the hops or servers till you hit your target.

    3 8 ms 7 ms 17 ms ge3-0.gw2.ptk.nv.net.il [212.143.10.194]
    4 181 ms 167 ms 161 ms pos2-6.brdr1.lnd.nv.net.il [212.143.12.3]
    see between hop 3 and 4 you jump way too high from say 8ms ping to a 181ms...thats unacceptable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by trogers View Post
    Irregular ping times at hop 2 indicate possible fault from modem to the your ISP's switch..

    Check for possible loose connector/wiring or faulty splitter along the connection from modem to the wall jack.
    Checked and seen no problem. I've reconnected it all just in case, yet nothing has changed.

    Any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pazazman View Post
    Checked and seen no problem. I've reconnected it all just in case, yet nothing has changed.

    Any suggestions?
    Get your ISP to test your connection line. The fault may be somewhere outside your home right to the ISP's switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trogers View Post
    Get your ISP to test your connection line. The fault may be somewhere outside your home right to the ISP's switch.
    To be honest, I've had lots of problems with my ISP because they are completely dumb; took me FOUR business days to get the upgrade after the payment was done.

    Again, the connection works fine and exactly how it should with connections in my region (6mb up/600kb down), but gets MUCH worse when it comes to other countries. So my question is, should I really trouble my ISP again? I mean isn't it a problem with my ports or something? because again it works perfectly fine with connections in my country.

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    Google and use PingPlotter to analyzer your signal route to overseas sites. It will show you where along the signal routes problems are occurring.

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    Target Name: www.yahoo.com
    IP: 69.147.114.210
    Date/Time: 20/10/2007 13:45:53

    1 7 ms 8 ms lo0.cab09.ptk.nv.net.il [212.143.208.150]
    2 17 ms 6 ms vl201.coresw1.ptk.nv.net.il [212.143.228.254]
    3 8 ms 8 ms ge1-0.gw1.ptk.nv.net.il [212.143.10.193]
    4 135 ms 171 ms pos2-2.brdr1.lnd.nv.net.il [212.143.12.41]
    5 198 ms 195 ms [207.138.95.197]
    6 275 ms 265 ms yahoo-2.ar1.DCA3.gblx.net [208.51.74.182]
    7 * 273 ms ge-3-1-0-p151.msr2.re1.yahoo.com [216.115.108.63]
    8 265 ms 259 ms gi1-23.bas-a1.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.238.67]
    9 270 ms 265 ms f1.www.vip.re3.yahoo.com [69.147.114.210]

    Ping statistics for www.yahoo.com
    Packets: Sent = 2, Received = 2, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
    Round Trip Times: Minimum = 265ms, Maximum = 270ms, Average = 267ms

    Is this normal for a 6 mb dl/600kb up connection?

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    The PingPltter would also show the hops where you may be having packet losses in %.

    But from the result posted, hop 2 still shows uneven ping times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trogers View Post
    The PingPltter would also show the hops where you may be having packet losses in %.

    But from the result posted, hop 2 still shows uneven ping times.
    And what does that mean? should I call my ISP?

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    info and contact points for the first misconfigured router in your ISP network:
    vl201.coresw1.ptk.nv.net.il [212.143.228.254]
    Code:
    role:           Netvision NOC team
    address:        Omega Building
    address:        MATAM industrial park
    address:        Haifa 31905
    address:        Israel
    phone:          +972 4 8560 600
    fax-no:         +972 4 8551 132
    e-mail:         abuse@netvision.net.il
    remarks:        trouble:      Send Spam and Abuse complains ONLY to the above address!
    admin-c:        NVAC-RIPE
    tech-c:         NVTC-RIPE
    nic-hdl:        NN105-RIPE
    mnt-by:         NV-MNT-RIPE
    source:         RIPE # Filtered
    other info about the first router on your ISP network:
    Code:
    d830:~# nmap -v -A -P0 212.143.228.254
    
    Starting Nmap 4.20 ( http://insecure.org ) at 2007-10-20 10:27 EDT
    Initiating Parallel DNS resolution of 1 host. at 10:27
    Completed Parallel DNS resolution of 1 host. at 10:27, 0.38s elapsed
    Initiating SYN Stealth Scan at 10:27
    Scanning vl201.coresw1.ptk.nv.net.il (212.143.228.254) [1697 ports]
    Increasing send delay for 212.143.228.254 from 0 to 5 due to 11 out of 33 dropped probes since last increase.
    SYN Stealth Scan Timing: About 24.70% done; ETC: 10:29 (0:01:31 remaining)
    Increasing send delay for 212.143.228.254 from 5 to 10 due to max_successful_tryno increase to 4
    Increasing send delay for 212.143.228.254 from 10 to 20 due to max_successful_tryno increase to 5
    Completed SYN Stealth Scan at 10:29, 140.97s elapsed (1697 total ports)
    Initiating Service scan at 10:29
    Warning:  OS detection for 212.143.228.254 will be MUCH less reliable because we did not find at least 1 open and 1 closed TCP port
    Initiating OS detection (try #1) against vl201.coresw1.ptk.nv.net.il (212.143.228.254)
    Retrying OS detection (try #2) against vl201.coresw1.ptk.nv.net.il (212.143.228.254)
    Initiating gen1 OS Detection against 212.143.228.254 at 144.472s
    Warning:  OS detection will be MUCH less reliable because we did not find at least 1 open and 1 closed TCP port
    Host vl201.coresw1.ptk.nv.net.il (212.143.228.254) appears to be up ... good.
    Interesting ports on vl201.coresw1.ptk.nv.net.il (212.143.228.254):
    Not shown: 1690 closed ports
    PORT    STATE    SERVICE      VERSION
    25/tcp  filtered smtp
    135/tcp filtered msrpc
    136/tcp filtered profile
    137/tcp filtered netbios-ns
    138/tcp filtered netbios-dgm
    139/tcp filtered netbios-ssn
    445/tcp filtered microsoft-ds
    Too many fingerprints match this host to give specific OS details
    
    OS and Service detection performed. Please report any incorrect results at http://insecure.org/nmap/submit/ .
    Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 155.728 seconds
                   Raw packets sent: 2412 (111.588KB) | Rcvd: 1747 (80.706KB)
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