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    Umm how does it work?

    Let's say I'm selling my console and getting a new one.
    But I want everything wiped out from my older console (xbox360 of course) and keep/transfer all the saves my XBL account etc to my new console.
    How does it work ?
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    if I understand you correctly you are getting rid of an xbox 360 to get another 360? If so just swap the harddrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    if I understand you correctly you are getting rid of an xbox 360 to get another 360? If so just swap the harddrive.
    Yeah you do understand it correctly, but the 2nd 360 is going to be 120gb drive.
    Last edited by Rivas; 05-10-07 at 06:58 PM.
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    there's a data transfer cable so i hard, if not



    http://www.team-gx.org/360rebuild/

    there's some guidenc for ya

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    btw did you get that blaster ?
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    no, i just flashed my drive the normal way, using my on-board sata and disassembaling the drive and using the vcc method on the samsung ms28 drive i have

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidpete View Post
    no, i just flashed my drive the normal way, using my on-board sata and disassembaling the drive and using the vcc method on the samsung ms28 drive i have
    i was just talking with buddy of mine and he said there were 2 important firmwares, the 1st one of course and 2nd one that fixed all the bugs ...everything what was coming after were just some small fixing, improving, nothing really important .... are you flashing it every few weeks ?
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    i flashed the v52 xtreme. it supports single layer backups for xbox 1 games. also has a compatibility mode for lower end blank media. 52 is the latest and there really is not much to improve on if anything after this version

    from the read me file



    ------------------------------------------------------
    Xtreme firmware 5.2A,5.2B,5.2C,5.2D for TS-H943 Xbox 360
    ------------------------------------------------------

    Disc-Lockon, Single Layer!, FirmGuard, Multi Speed, Media Stealth, One Firmware, Xbox 360 backup and extraction firmware modification!


    Features
    -----------------

    (v5.2) Disc-LockOn added for chronic open tray consoles.
    (v5.2) DVD Video disc problems fixed.

    (v5.1) Open Tray errors fixed (PFI and SS read routines updated)
    (v5.1) 5.1c (Dual speed, default fast) and 5.1d (Dual speed default quiet\slow) read speed (Originals unaffected). Both toggle with original Xbox1/360 disc
    (V5.1) Xbox1 DDE errors caused by firmware, patched
    (V5.1) Possible Xbox1/360 DDE errors caused by firmware, patched
    (V5.1) Single Layer DVD disc support(+/-RW) for both Xbox1 and 360
    (v5.1) New easier batch file "Make Xtreme firmware.cmd" to make all firmwares.


    (V5.0) Single Layer DVD disc support(+/-R) for both Xbox1 and 360
    (V5.0) Xbox1 file ISO support - burn just game files to disk in ISO format
    (V5.0) Xbox1 file ISO capacity increase to utilise full disk space for single layer
    (v5.0) 360 file ISO support (Work in progress. New QWIX tool to come)
    (V5.0) Supports older style XBox1 disk format (just burn game.iso)
    (v5.0) Enable0800 disk now supported on single layer disk



    (v4.2) Updated firmware and Make files for Error 66 swapped drives/motherboards from Hitachi XBox 360 and for MS25 consoles manufactured around/after end of May/start of June 2006. There is no change for drives already running Xtreme 4.2x
    (v4.2) Security Sector read improved. Should help with Open Tray/Rubberband error.
    (v4.1) Improved FirmGuard.
    (v4.0) MS28 core firmware. Also better and faster media detection.
    (v4.0) FirmGuard added. On by default. Firmware cannot be Read/Written by 360 console. Can ONLY be turned off (Read/Write enabled) via Enable0800 mode.
    (v4.0) 4.0A firmware. 4.0A is default Fast Read Speed mode. Quite/Slow Read mode for backups activated via any Xbox 360/Xbox 1 Original game disk.
    (v4.0) 4.0B firmware. 4.0B is default Quiet/Slow Read Speed mode. Fast Read mode for backups activated via any Xbox 360/Xbox 1 Original game disk.

    (v3.3) Dual Read Speed mode (Quite/Slow Read mode for backups activated via any Xbox 360/Xbox 1 Original game disk.)
    (v3.2) Improved Media speed patch, forced full speed on all media types!
    (v3.1) Added Booktype overwrite patch (bitsetting to Dvdrom no longer required)
    (v3.1) Added Media speed patch (drive treats backup disc speed rating same as original)
    (v3.1) Fixed DVD Movie backup/Xbox 1 backup read bug.
    (v3.0) Stealth Media implemeted into firmware. Backups now appear exactly as original disk regardless of which disk check command used by Xbox 360
    (v3.0) Enable0800 mode supports extraction of raw PFI (Physical Format Information) and raw DMI (Disk Manufacturing Information)
    (v3.0) Support for loading of extracted PFI and DMI from disk
    (v3.0) Non-Stealth Backups automatically enhanced with embeded PFI for Xbox 360 and Xbox 1
    (v3.0) Included new Video.iso for Xbox 360 and Xbox 1 backups, now the same as originals
    (v3.0) Security placeholders/bad sectors for 360 backups are outside both valid psn ranges so they cannot be read/checked by 360 host
    (v2.0) Extraction part of firmware enabled with Enable0800 DVD. ISO included.
    (v2.0) In Enable0800 mode, allows drive to function natively under Windows without any hardware conversion/adaptors
    (v1.0) Boots all Xtreme Xbox 360 backups
    (v1.0) Boots all Xtreme Xbox 1 backups
    (v1.0) Boots all Xbox 360 originals
    (v1.0) Boots all Xbox 1 originals on Xbox 360

    Use on Xbox Live at own risk



    Technical details
    ------------------------

    Disc-LockOn is additional laser calibration performed when disc inserted returns a cannot identify disc type error. This is for consoles that had very bad open tray issues (Finally got hold of one that had this problem )



    Open tray errors now fixed for good, but "Open Tray" is still a valid status for disc insertions when the drive cannot reconize the disc.

    Dual speed firmwares C (default fast) and D (default quite/slow) return. Both toggle with original Xbox1/360 disc. Originals unaffected.

    Added patch to routines that specifically targeted Xbox 1 discs with read errors

    Added patch to a routine that may have caused read errors on Xbox1/360 discs.

    Added support for -/+RW discs for both Xbox1 and 360 discs.

    Added easier batch file to create firmwares "Make Xtreme firmware.cmd". Just follow the prompts.




    Single layer disks now supported for both Xbox1 and 360. The disks can be in either the same normal raw dump method or in XBOX file ISO format.
    This fully works with Xbox 1 using the new Qwix or gdfimage created ISO. The default.xbe must be unmodified and still be signed (If in doubt , copy from original)

    360 file ISO is still in development. The exact strcture for the 360 disc is being developed and a new Qwix will support the creation of these disks.

    Xbox1 file ISo now supports full 4.7GB as no need for video partition etc.

    FOr Xtreme 5.0CA all backup Read Speed is same as original game disks 12x. Originals unaffected and no speed switch

    For Xtreme 5.0D all backup Read Speed is quite/slow. Originals unaffected and no speed switch




    Fall update 2006 included DVD Drive version lockdown on consoles manufactured around end of May/start of June 2006. These consoles are now locked to the version of DVD drive that came with the console. If the DVD drive is different than original drive, Error 66 will be displayed. The response of the Atapi Inquiry command is compared to the stored original drive response to achieve this. (Thanx to DeViLs360 for initial find. Consoles manufactured before end of May 2006 do not perform this comparison. Only MS25 drives affected by Error 66 with Xtreme 5.0 should use the Make file for MS25.

    Changes have also been made to the resulting Hitachi/MS25 reporting firmware to make them more similar to their original firmwares.

    To use the updated Make files (only if getting Error 66), just copy your existing Samsung firmware to the extracted directory and rename it to orig.bin. Then run the corresponding Make file for your Original drive. This will create the modified X42a.bin/x42b.bin.


    Security sectors are read in this order:

    Only if disc is type DVD-Rom read Xbox 360 security sector from PSN FD021E (Layer 1)
    Otherwise read Xbox 360 security sector from PSN 04FB1F (Layer 0)
    then check for Enable0800 security sector from PSN 04FB1F (Layer 0)
    then read Xbox 1 security sector from PSN 605FF (Layer 0)
    then read Xbox1 file iso sector from PSN 30020 (Layer 0)

    FOr Xtreme 5.2A backup Read Speed is always same as original game disks 12x. Original discs unaffected

    FOr Xtreme 5.2B backup Read Speed is always quiet/slow. Original discs unaffected.

    FOr Xtreme 5.2C default backup Read Speed is same as original game disks 12x. When Original Game disk is booted, all subsequent backup loading will be at Quiet/Slow Read mode, Original Game disks are unaffected. Turn console off/on to reset back to Default backup read speed (12x). Quiet/Slow Read Speed is for quiet operation and/or cheap DVD+R DL media.

    FOr Xtreme 5.2D default backup Read Speed is Quiet/Slow 2-4x. When Original Game disk is booted, all subsequent backup loading will be at Fast Read mode 12x, Original Game disks are unaffected. Turn console off/on to reset back to Default backup read speed for backups (2-4x).

    FirmGuard disables reading/writing of drive firmware. This is always on. Can only be turned off via Enable0800 mode. Do not have SATA cable plugged into Xbox 360 console when in Enable0800 mode.

    Backups now automatically have pre-locked PSN range same as stated in extracted PFI sector if exists, or embeded PFI, therefore cannot read extracted SS/PFI/DMI sectors from disk. Currently all original 360 games have same PFI sector but maybe not in future, hence new feature of extracting PFI in Enable0800 mode and read from backup at PSN $4fb1d (Xbox 360) and $605fd (Xbox1) or if these sectors are blank embeded PFI will be used

    Backups now support loading of DMI sector. This sector is different for every original 360 game but is currently not checked for, but maybe in future hence DMI can now be extracted also in Enable0800 mode and read from backup at PSN $4fb1e (Xbox 360) and $605fe (Xbox1)

    Firmware checks for Enable0800 security sector @ PSN 04FB1F and if found, enables 0800 mode of firmware.

    ISO image Enable0800.iso is available in Xtreme 4.2 or below. Just burn and insert into drive when you wish to extract security sectors or dump games.

    0800 mode of firmware deactivated by inserting game backup (Xbox 360 or Xbox 1) or DVD movie or turning off console.
    Reads Xbox 360/Xbox 1 security sector from PSN FD021E (Layer 1)
    Reads Xbox 360 security sector from PSN 04FB1F (Layer 0)
    Reads Xbox 1 security sector from PSN 605FF (Layer 0)
    Reads Xbox 1 file iso sector from PSN 30020 (Layer 0)

    Security sector must be extracted using Enable0800 DVD for Xbox360 games and Xbox 1 games


    Flashing your drive
    ---------------------------

    For ms28 firmware versions of drive you will need to use the Vcc method or the VIA SATA 10 sec method to read/write flash. Refer to http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=535222

    Advisable to make a backup of your dvd drive firmware first.("mtkflash r /m orig.bin")

    In Windows, copy orig.bin to same directory as this release (same directory as ReadMe.txt and X360SAM.exe)

    Double click "Make Xtreme firmware.cmd" and follow the prompts. Thanks to eXOBeX for X360SAM.EXE

    Copy x52x.bin to boot disk where x is a,b,c or d.

    Power off PC

    Plug SATA cable from DVD drive to PC. Power cable drive still connected to Xbox 360
    Power on Xbox 360
    Power on PC
    Boot with standard dos boot disk with included mtkflash utility

    Run "mtkflash w /m x52x.bin.bin" where x is a,b,c or d.



    Flashing your drive with Xtreme4.x or above firmware installed
    ----------------------------------------------------------

    Plug SATA cable from DVD drive to PC. Power cable drive still connected to Xbox 360

    Power on PC

    Boot with standard dos boot disk with included mtkflash utility to dos

    Power on Xbox 360

    Insert Enable0800 disc into drive and wait 10 seconds then eject disc

    Run mtkflash as per normal.


    Creating a game backup (Recommended way)
    ------------------------------------------

    Use either Schtrom360XtractV3.0 or later

    or

    Xbox Backup Creator v2.2 or later





    ***********************************************************************************
    ***********************************************************************************
    ***********************************************************************************
    ***********************************************************************************


    ----------------------------------------
    Legacy information for creating backups.
    ----------------------------------------


    Extracting Security Sector
    ---------------------------------------

    Ensue SATA cable is plugged from drive to PC.
    (This is very important as may be possible in future for console to detect modified firmware due to Inquiry routine enabled for Windows)

    Power on Xbox 360.
    Insert Enable0800 DVD into drive. Wait 5 or so seconds then remove the Enable0800 DVD. Drive now in 0800 mode.
    Turn on PC and wait for Windows to boot
    Insert original game disk into drive and wait for windows to detect disk change
    Run DVDinfoPro
    Enter the following four custom cdb commands:

    AD 00 FF 02 FD FF FE 00 08 00 01 C0
    AD 00 FF 02 FD FF FE 00 08 00 03 C0
    AD 00 FF 02 FD FF FE 00 08 00 05 C0
    AD 00 FF 02 FD FF FE 00 08 00 07 C0

    Then save hexadecimal display as bin file as SS.bin

    Extracting PFI (Physical Format Information) Sector
    -------------------------------------------------------------------
    Run DVDinfoPro
    From Advanced Commands pull down menu choose Send Custom Command
    From Preset Commands pull down menu choose "00h Physical Format Information" from under the Read DVD Struct Commands heading
    Click Send
    Then save hexadecimal display as bin file as PFI.bin

    Extracting DMI (Disk Manufacturing Information) Sector
    -------------------------------------------------------------------
    Run DVDinfoPro
    From Advanced Commands pull down menu choose "04h Disc Manufacturing Info"
    Click OK on Read DVD Structure Option window
    Then save hexadecimal display as bin file as DMI.bin



    Creating a game backup
    -----------------------------------
    Drive is still in 0800 mode.
    Extract Isobuilder.rar
    Insert original game disk into drive and wait for windows to detect disk change
    Run DVDinfoPro
    Enter the following custom cdb command to unlock drive: (game data visable)

    FF 08 01 01 05 01 03 00 04 07 (new in MS28)

    Run Isobuster
    Right click on DVD and select Extract From-To
    Click Length and enter number of LBAs as follows:

    Xbox 1 Original Number of LBA to read 3431264 decimal
    or
    Xbox 360 Original Number of LBA to read 3567872 decimal
    Select User Data (2048 bytes/block)
    Click Start Extraction
    Enter filename as game.iso and click Save
    Upon read error dialogue box choose fill with blank zeros for sector and select use this selection for all errors
    Copy game.iso, ss.bin, PFI.bin and DMI.bin to the relevent isobuilder directory (Depending on Xbox 360 or Xbox 1 game)
    Run build360.bat (Xbox 360 game) or build.bat (xbox 1 game).
    These batch files now expect PFI and DMI bin files
    Burn with CloneCd and choose the image.dvd file

    Turning off 0800 mode of firmware
    ------------------------------------------------

    Either insert game backup (Xbox 360 or Xbox 1) or DVD movie. This de-activates 0800 part of firmware or turn off console.


    Thanks to everyone on #FW, Xboxhacker.net , Xbox-Scene.com, Maxconsole.com and Xbins.Org for their support. Keep up the good work everyone.
    Commodore4Eva@gmail.com



    i flashed the "d" version

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    appears to be a few kinks in the works....

    http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-971...&tag=cnetfd.mt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell View Post
    appears to be a few kinks in the works....

    http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-971...&tag=cnetfd.mt
    That's actually intentional. Microsoft's biggest fault was not coming up with a transfer solution that will allow you to swap the license on one console for another.

    Yay DRM.

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    ehh, amkes sense ont he games, as far as movies, i save them to my pc once downlaoded

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    That's actually intentional. Microsoft's biggest fault was not coming up with a transfer solution that will allow you to swap the license on one console for another.

    Yay DRM.
    Wait, I dont understand, I dont need demo games or xvid from my HDD, all I want is my gamertag (i guess i will have to use recover gamertag) but what about my points? Like MS points, Saved games, Games I payed for additional maps (GoW) and finally my "gaming score".
    All the rest, I dont really care.

    BTW the elite console is badass, I can see difference in picture (games), tiny bit crispier, the drive is not so loud and it's not so hot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidpete View Post
    there's a data transfer cable so i hard, if not



    http://www.team-gx.org/360rebuild/

    there's some guidenc for ya
    It doesnt work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivas View Post
    Wait, I dont understand, I dont need demo games or xvid from my HDD, all I want is my gamertag (i guess i will have to use recover gamertag) but what about my points? Like MS points, Saved games, Games I payed for additional maps (GoW) and finally my "gaming score".
    All the rest, I dont really care.

    BTW the elite console is badass, I can see difference in picture (games), tiny bit crispier, the drive is not so loud and it's not so hot.
    To get your gamertag/score onto the new console, the gamertag recovery tool will do the job. MS points are also stored online, so those'll be there too.

    To transfer your data (save games, DLC, etc), just go to the page here, and use the PDF at the bottom.

    The images the Elite displays, on any of the connectors other than HDMI, should be identical to the images on the standard system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    To get your gamertag/score onto the new console, the gamertag recovery tool will do the job. MS points are also stored online, so those'll be there too.

    To transfer your data (save games, DLC, etc), just go to the page here, and use the PDF at the bottom.

    The images the Elite displays, on any of the connectors other than HDMI, should be identical to the images on the standard system.
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