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    Prints need help

    Ok I recently purchased a Canon digital rebel. What I want to do is print some pretty large pics, bigger than 8x10, I know its expensive and no I am not going to use my printer, I will have to acquire the services of walgreens I believe they are the only ones I have found that will print bigger pics than 8x10, if anyone knows of any other place that will do this let me know.

    Ok what size file will be needed to print a picture that big? Or I guess I should ask how big of a picture can my camera print with no distortion I believe it is a 6.3MP. Thanks alot.

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    Costco does 11x14's and they use great equipment. You should be post-processing that photo to provide maximum sharpness and contrast too. 11x14 is about max for the Drebel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota
    Costco does 11x14's and they use great equipment. You should be post-processing that photo to provide maximum sharpness and contrast too. 11x14 is about max for the Drebel.

    Hey was hoping you would respond Dakota. Not really in the loop about the whole processing thing, I had a Olympus C5050 before this and most I ever printed was 4x6's on a hp 7550. But I have been taking these pics to walmart and printing 8x10's and they are awesome. What is post-processing? Are you saying bigger than 11x14 and I will lose image quality, probably won't go any bigger than that anyway. Also do you know the best places to buy lenses? The Drebel will accept any canon lens correct? Any other bits of info you can give me about the drebel would be great. Thanks Dakota.

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    Post-processing is manipulating the photo after it is shot in your "digital darkroom." The best tool for that is Photoshop Pro CS. Next best would be Elements. We usually kick up contrast, color saturation and add sharpening to give the photos a little more kick. Shooting with a dSLR over a point-and-shooter is a bit of a different world.

    I can't train you in one post, but it'd behoove you to get out on some of the forums like:

    http://photography-on-the.net/forum/index.php (I moderate there)
    http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/index.php
    http://www.robgalbraith.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php

    And there are many more too. Read, read and when you're tired of reading, read some more. Have patience. It will not happen overnight.

    You have some skills to develop if you want to be more than a simple point-and-shooter shooting "pics" rather than photographs.

    In reality you can enlarge to as high as billboard size with no problem. However, the pixels will the size of dinner plates! 11x14 or is it 16? Will do just fine with a 6.5mp camera.

    Where to buy lenses, etc. I get mine from B&H: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

    Stay far away from those bargain photo stores! They will rip you a big one. Basic law applies: If it's (the price) too good to be true, it probably is. Here are some samples of Brooklyn, NY, store "fronts". And the term "front" is used VERY loosely:

    http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/pictures/BrooklynStores/

    When in doubt, check www.resellerratings.com

    And yes, the Drebel will accept any lens in the EOS lineup. Here are a couple of cool PDF'd charts from Canon showing lenses and accessories: http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/con...mpareSelectAct

    Sooooo, all that ought to keep ya busy for awhile!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota
    Post-processing is manipulating the photo after it is shot in your "digital darkroom." The best tool for that is Photoshop Pro CS. Next best would be Elements. We usually kick up contrast, color saturation and add sharpening to give the photos a little more kick. Shooting with a dSLR over a point-and-shooter is a bit of a different world.

    I can't train you in one post, but it'd behoove you to get out on some of the forums like:

    http://photography-on-the.net/forum/index.php (I moderate there)
    http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/index.php
    http://www.robgalbraith.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php

    And there are many more too. Read, read and when you're tired of reading, read some more. Have patience. It will not happen overnight.

    You have some skills to develop if you want to be more than a simple point-and-shooter shooting "pics" rather than photographs.

    In reality you can enlarge to as high as billboard size with no problem. However, the pixels will the size of dinner plates! 11x14 or is it 16? Will do just fine with a 6.5mp camera.

    Where to buy lenses, etc. I get mine from B&H: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

    Stay far away from those bargain photo stores! They will rip you a big one. Basic law applies: If it's (the price) too good to be true, it probably is. Here are some samples of Brooklyn, NY, store "fronts". And the term "front" is used VERY loosely:

    http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/pictures/BrooklynStores/

    When in doubt, check www.resellerratings.com

    And yes, the Drebel will accept any lens in the EOS lineup. Here are a couple of cool PDF'd charts from Canon showing lenses and accessories: http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/con...mpareSelectAct

    Sooooo, all that ought to keep ya busy for awhile!
    Thanks alot for the forums link. I definitely will check that one out. My girlfriend has been using it alot and I believe she's a natural. Has taken some great pics. THanks again Dakota for the links and the forum.

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    EDIT: Dakota first thing you need to teach me is how to post a pic without it being so big. When I edit the pic, in a software program i.e. resize it, it loses picture quality. How can I post pics and keep their original quality and keep them a reasonable size. Has to be something simple.


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    just curious, what software prog. are you using to resize?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybotron r_9
    just curious, what software prog. are you using to resize?

    I was using microsoft photo editor with my olympus c5050, and when I would resize the pics would look like they definitely had lost picture quality. With the olympus I could change the file type to a tiff I believe it was a 800x600 or a 640x480 or something and I wouldn't have to alter the pic to host it. But as you know that would mean every shot I took would have to predetermine what I wanted to do with it. Anyways is there an actual way to resize without losing any picture quality. I mean if a picture(source file) was originally a certain size wouldn't making it larger or smaller in fact lose at least some picture quality?

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    i used to have the same problem when using MGI Photosuite to resize.

    try using Irfanview , very good free program and easy to use, I think you'll have much better results kid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron203
    EDIT: Dakota first thing you need to teach me is how to post a pic without it being so big. When I edit the pic, in a software program i.e. resize it, it loses picture quality. How can I post pics and keep their original quality and keep them a reasonable size. Has to be something simple.

    If you are shooting JPEG, anytime you edit and save a JPEG you lose quality. If you shoot RAW, convert to TIFF. Even shooting JPEG it's a good idea to to write protect your original file or covert to TIFF.

    Anyway, there are literally multitudes of programs that can resize. From the XP Toybox resizer to Photoshop Pro. The Drebel came with Photoshop Elements 2.0, so why not use that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota
    If you are shooting JPEG, anytime you edit and save a JPEG you lose quality. If you shoot RAW, convert to TIFF. Even shooting JPEG it's a good idea to to write protect your original file or covert to TIFF.

    Anyway, there are literally multitudes of programs that can resize. From the XP Toybox resizer to Photoshop Pro. The Drebel came with Photoshop Elements 2.0, so why not use that?

    Yep your right it came with photoshop, haven't tried resizing with that yet. So you are saying when shooting shoot in RAW mode then from there I can convert to JPEG, TIFF, etc. and I can change the picture size and not lose quality? THanks

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    That's one way of doing it. But, if you just posting stuff on the web then it's not that big a deal. I resize JPEGs all the time and post them on my web pages. To edit once or twice isn't a big deal if it's for the web.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota
    Post-processing is manipulating the photo after it is shot in your "digital darkroom." The best tool for that is Photoshop Pro CS. Next best would be Elements. We usually kick up contrast, color saturation and add sharpening to give the photos a little more kick. Shooting with a dSLR over a point-and-shooter is a bit of a different world.

    I can't train you in one post, but it'd behoove you to get out on some of the forums like:

    http://photography-on-the.net/forum/index.php (I moderate there)
    http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/index.php
    http://www.robgalbraith.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php

    And there are many more too. Read, read and when you're tired of reading, read some more. Have patience. It will not happen overnight.

    You have some skills to develop if you want to be more than a simple point-and-shooter shooting "pics" rather than photographs.

    In reality you can enlarge to as high as billboard size with no problem. However, the pixels will the size of dinner plates! 11x14 or is it 16? Will do just fine with a 6.5mp camera.

    Where to buy lenses, etc. I get mine from B&H: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

    Stay far away from those bargain photo stores! They will rip you a big one. Basic law applies: If it's (the price) too good to be true, it probably is. Here are some samples of Brooklyn, NY, store "fronts". And the term "front" is used VERY loosely:

    http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/pictures/BrooklynStores/

    When in doubt, check www.resellerratings.com

    And yes, the Drebel will accept any lens in the EOS lineup. Here are a couple of cool PDF'd charts from Canon showing lenses and accessories: http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/con...mpareSelectAct

    Sooooo, all that ought to keep ya busy for awhile!
    Hey Dakota what about Abes of Maine looks like they have some pretty good prices and http://www.abesofmaine.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron203
    Hey Dakota what about Abes of Maine looks like they have some pretty good prices and http://www.abesofmaine.com
    Hmmm....I bought a photo-bag from them a couple of years ago. It arrived okay, but trying to get tracking info was like trying to pull a tooth from a Tiger. I got my bag. Never have ordered from them again.

    Cruise this URL and decide for yourself: http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/pictures/BrooklynStores/

    Abe's Of Maine is not too far down from the top...

    Their reseller rating is only fair at best: http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2003.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota
    Hmmm....I bought a photo-bag from them a couple of years ago. It arrived okay, but trying to get tracking info was like trying to pull a tooth from a Tiger. I got my bag. Never have ordered from them again.

    Cruise this URL and decide for yourself: http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/pictures/BrooklynStores/

    Abe's Of Maine is not too far down from the top...

    Their reseller rating is only fair at best: http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2003.html

    Thanks dakota I am going to stick with B&H like you said. THanks

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