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syncmaster
11-04-01, 07:35 PM
I own the HITACHI DVD RAM GD-8000 .

I am using for the last year the XING ver.2.0 software , my HITACHI 24x Cd rom works fine , but if i try to extract with the DVD my system freez .

I had try to play with the DMA , like On or Off .
But it did not, help .
I am not sure ,if its a hardware problem .

But if any one have try a software that works better with DVDs , i will liked to learn more about it .

downhill
11-04-01, 08:48 PM
Humm........audio extraction is the same with dvd as with cdrom....

Xing's extraction usually works pretty good. Have you ever got it to work for you?

Ok Sync, here's the true deal. If your extraction is important to you and you want the best job with even scratched cd's, try ripping with

Exact Audio Copy. (http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/)



This site has a tutorial on how to get the best out of EAC and your DVD or CDROM. (http://http://www.ping.be/satcp/)

Now to Xing's product. Are you making mp3's with it?

syncmaster
11-04-01, 09:19 PM
Bump !! i have this progy , but i never try it .

I will , thanks man .

At list i will compare , if its software issue or hardware .
The DVD devices is not really ,like the CDrom devices.

Due the slower acces time they need ,the software that will work with , to know to wait a bit :)

downhill
11-04-01, 09:37 PM
True they are different beasts, but the extraction method for audio data is the same. Also true that the extraction rate is generally slower for DVD drives.

Still, did it work before? It could simply be a problem with your ripper. It's settings.

syncmaster
11-05-01, 03:56 PM
Nop its the first time that i tryed to extract audio with it .

But i do not know if at XING it needs to set a diferent extraction protocol , like about syncronization , or buffers ??

I do not know !!

syncmaster
11-05-01, 04:13 PM
Hey the EAC its worked fine :D
But i do not have MP3 encoder engine , so it does them wav files .

If i set the XING as encoder ??

I have to play with it , and see .

The EAC have a fantastic detection engine for the CD devices ..

downhill
11-05-01, 06:21 PM
Yeah EAC rocks.....it's great for scratched disk's.

Yes you can make mp3's with Xing still. Simply point it at your new wav.

But..hold your horses there, Sync, Xing is not very good at making good quality mp3's. It cut's off the freq's at I do believe 16khz.

I'd recommend LAME. It's constantly updated and best of all, it's free.

And you can make them from within EAC if you so like. That site on tutorials for EAC will show you how.

Personally I like to do it a different way. I extract to my harddrive as you did. Then convert to mp3 with LAME.


I like to use Razor Lame as the front end. (http://www.dors.de/razorlame/) You'll still need the LAME encoder and you can get it here. (http://home.pi.be/~mk442837/) I know this sounds nuts but get the ALPHA version. lame-20011105

It's the most recient updated.

Now to the fun part....if your looking for quality and don't mind a large file, use...this setting...

-b256 -ms -q0 --lowpass 19.5

That's the recommendation from www.rmix.net for 256 bitrate files.

If your looking for decient quality and lower file size use.....

--r3mix

If you need more info you can research what I'm talking about at

http://www.r3mix.net/

--r3mix for those interested in a break down works like this.....

"--nspsytune --vbr-mtrh -V1 -mj -h -b96 --lowpass 19.5 --athtype 3 --ns-sfb21 2 -Z --scale 0.98 -X0
It's a VBR file and believe me it rocks.

syncmaster
11-05-01, 08:17 PM
I will give a try the LAME encoder , as about me i am not spesialist in MP3s , the 128bit decoding with the Fraunhofer MP3 codec , its fine for me .

But i will try this software as alternative solution .

At list my DVD can work with this software :)

syncmaster
11-06-01, 04:18 AM
BUMP!! this LAME stuff , works in DOS .
I have win2k here , i need something in 32bit format .

I have tryed to set XING as encoder ,but its just ,not working .

My problem is not how to make mp3s , what i seek is an automated procces .

Like the original XING does .

syncmaster
11-06-01, 04:26 AM
This is not my day !!!!

http://www.xingtech.com/cgi-bin/redir_in.cgi?/mp3/audiocatalyst/20full/xingweb/index.html



Requires: Pentium™ Processor, 16MB RAM, Windows™ 95/98/NT4.0 (Does not work with Windows® 2000 or ME), Sound card, and CD-ROM supporting digital audio extraction.

Thats not true , just my DVD does not liked to work with XING . :(

downhill
11-06-01, 08:25 AM
Sync, try this one........it's still LAME only you don't have to download two files. It's the frontend and exe all in one.

http://www.cd-rw.org/win32lame/

I'd use the LAMEV17exe..........

downhill
11-06-01, 08:31 AM
Humm......after reading your post...


My problem is not how to make mp3s , what i seek is an automated procces .

You can do that with EAC.....look at that site I pointed out to you.

http://www.ping.be/satcp/tutorials.htm

You'll still need the LAME EXE file from that other site listed above. EAC will both rip and encode for you.

syncmaster
11-06-01, 05:23 PM
Ok man thanks , i am downloading the LAMEV17exe right now i will tell you soon , if it works for me .

syncmaster
11-06-01, 05:56 PM
Ok the good news first , the Lame1.7 stand alove aplication is decoding fine , due the windows interface that it haves .

But the Lame.exe , that is the decoder alone , needs switces to be set , to do the job .

I have read some help files and texts in the program file , but i can not understan if i need to set its and every one parameter ,so to make it actualy to work automated with EAC .

So far becauce of the possible missing parameters the decoder does not start automaticly after the end of riping by the EAC .

In the EAC there is a command line , in the compesion field ,but i do not know what to write in there .

I like 128 bit Stereo MP3s with out HQ filters