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KANO
10-13-01, 09:12 PM
ive been unhappy with my new server case, i did not like my temps. so i just stripped it and started over.

old temps 52c CPU

and 43 MB

my new temps read as 34 CPU and 34 MB, heres how i dropped them.

i twisted my ide and floppy cables, and moved them as best i could to help air flow.


http://www.jamie47.fsnet.co.uk/Dcp02418.jpg


http://www.jamie47.fsnet.co.uk/Dcp02419.jpg

i moved one hdd and put it were the cdroms go, and added a fan blowing on the bottom hdd, it looks dumb but my hdd is not getting hot at all.


this is a fan i bought last week, i was unhappy with it but now after tideing my pc its doing better then the reviews claimed. its called a silver mountian, and is really a copper base but has a silver coat.

http://www.jamie47.fsnet.co.uk/Dcp02421.jpg


now this was just a test but i think ill leave it, as my temps are looking good, please dont take da piss on this last pic :)

http://www.jamie47.fsnet.co.uk/Dcp02424.jpg

yep a little blue orb, right behind where the cpu sits.

ok ill post some temp pics in a min.

BaLa
10-13-01, 09:21 PM
looks like you got the same case as me..

http://ftp.cablemo.net/~balakov100/pic1.jpg

and

http://ftp.cablemo.net/~balakov100/pic2.jpg

the electrical tape looks kinda messy..but it will do for now..

KANO
10-13-01, 09:26 PM
hi yes there the same, do you think the psu is to close to the cpu? and what are your temps?


http://www.jamie47.fsnet.co.uk/temptest.jpg

BaLa
10-13-01, 09:34 PM
right now full load,
left side of the case open
CPU 45C
and
Board 32C

I have a copper shim on my desk which I will put in there sometime..
Also I will get some Arctic Silver II Thermal Paste..right now I'm using the Radio Shack Crap..
strangely the back of my motherboard get's fairly warm as well..


I will get a few more fans and a better PSU b4 I close the case and leave it closed permanently..


well the PSU situation..the way it is set up on my motherboard there are about 3-4inches between PSU and Heatsink..so the heat rising is not a very good situation..as it does 2 things...(I'm not an expert on this; so correct me if I'm wrong)

it doesn't allow the heat of off the Heatsink easily and it kinda warms the bottom part of the PSU

but I think it's alright like that....

KANO
10-13-01, 09:42 PM
i agree the cpu gets hot because of the psu being so close, the blue orb on the back behind my cpu is helping with this problem, i just felt the chip and its very cool now.

my temps are still running the same 34c CPU and 34c MB. im going to run 3dmark 2000 and 2001, to see my temps while under a heavy load.

Mark
10-13-01, 09:43 PM
looks nice , so what kind of case is this ?

Brent
10-13-01, 09:46 PM
that blorb will do nothing if the heatsink isn't touching the mobo with some thermal stuff behind it, the air to heatsink transfer is minimal, so that isn't doing anything for you.... and i don't recommend sticking a heatsink on the back of your mobo with some compound either, unless you want a dead mobo

BaLa
10-13-01, 09:47 PM
this case..
http://www.abilitywholesale.com/abicom/CAS003.html

not sure where he bought his..
there's also another, exactly the same with a 500w PSU for $110

KANO
10-13-01, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by Brent
that blorb will do nothing if the heatsink isn't touching the mobo with some thermal stuff behind it, the air to heatsink transfer is minimal, so that isn't doing anything for you.... and i don't recommend sticking a heatsink on the back of your mobo with some compound either, unless you want a dead mobo


ill test what you are saying, about the orb in about 15 mins after i run the 3d mark. ill remove the orb and see if its doing anything.

KANO
10-13-01, 10:11 PM
under 3dmark 2000 and 2001, my temps went up by 1 celsius.

ill unplug the orb now and see if brent is right.

KANO
10-13-01, 10:22 PM
well brent your 100% right, infact by unplugging the orb my cpu reads as 33c and mb 34.


http://www.jamie47.fsnet.co.uk/test2.jpg

Soldier
10-13-01, 10:36 PM
looks nice :)

MagicMikey
10-13-01, 11:05 PM
Very nice work guys! very nice...

If you would like some extra cooling to the backside of your motherboard, mainly where your CPU is, then I'd suggest you cut out an 80mm hole on your motherboard tray as well as your outer side panel and place an 80mm fan on it. Now, you'd think if you'd have the fan blowing air onto/towards your motherboard is better, then you're wrong. Have it blowing away so it sucks out all the heat in that area....

If you're confused as to why setting the fan as an intake is bad, it's because all you're doing is moving the heat away to other areas which can get some places on your motherboard even warmer....

Keep it up guys!!! ;)

KANO
10-13-01, 11:09 PM
Have it blowing away so it sucks out all the heat in that area....


ya i agree with that, might even do it. but my temps are holding 33 cpu and 34 mb, which are the best temps ive ever had.

onetrueday
10-14-01, 01:15 AM
Hey, I just bought the same case from abilitywholesale yesterday for $45. They havent shipped yet, so I imagine it'll be a while before I recieve it. It'll be at least a week or two until I can even put my computer inside though, because I also bought 6 grills and a vantec cpu cooler. In addition to cutting six holes for 80mm fans, I already have a fantastic outside design for the outside case already planned out in my mind as well. That means i'll have... 10 fans total. Gosh, I wonder how high my duron800 will go with all that?

I dont have a scanner, nor a quickcam; but i'll find a way to get pictures up when I finish it.

RoundEye
10-14-01, 01:20 AM
Looks good to me. Getting the cables neat and out of the way will increase air flow and lower case temps quite a bit.

Here's a couple of tips.

Instead of regular electrical tape use Amalgamating tape, also know as "cold shrink" tape. It looks better, and will last almost forever. You should be able to get it at any electrial supply house, and it's not too expensive.

http://www.acterminals.com/tape2.jpg


Amalgamating Tape, also refered to as "Cold Shrink" tape does not have an adhesive side. It will only adhere to itself. It is called cold shrink because it is not activated by heat. However, when stretched and tightly wrapped around any surface it will become a solid mass of rubber. It can be used to seal hoses, water pipe leaks, insulate terminals, connectors, cable, and wiring. It can also be used for underground wiring, hi-voltage repair, in conjunction with, or in place of heat shrink tubing.



If you don't want to wrap the wires get some split loom. Any place that installs car stereos or automotive electronics should have it. It should be available from about 1/4 to 1 inch in size.

http://www.allelectronics.com/images/gold/full/SLT-38.jpg


KANO, if that Blue Orb is not touching a chip, I really doubt it's doing you any good at all, as far as heat reduction.

KANO
10-14-01, 12:37 PM
onetrueday i had 4 other fans in this pc and my temps were worse, its gonna take you alot of trial and error. i found that 2 many fans can have a reverse effect. also i really want to move my psu but the wires are 2 short, with the side panel off its ok but as soon as you put on the left panel, the heat around the cpu and psu is 2 much.


RoundEye the blue orb, did raise my cpu temp by 1 celsius, im thinking of moving my psu and adding a fan behind my cpu but blowing away, not on the cpu.