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mikemean
09-11-01, 12:02 PM
BUSH IS AT BARKSDALE AIR FORCE BASE IN LOISIANA

Leatherneck
09-11-01, 12:20 PM
Some of you might know that I am in the Marines stationed at Camp Lejeune. I am sitting in my office observing and listening to the crazy stuff going on here. Status changes continiously. I wish I could tell more, but I don't know too much and what I do know cannot be posted here.

Pray for the nation and all the victims. I hope I can go home today.

RoundEye
09-11-01, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by mikemean
BUSH IS AT BARKSDALE AIR FORCE BASE IN LOISIANA

Our local news confirmed that he is here in Louisiana. Probably won't hang around for long. I was wondering earlier why our city was going into a state of emergency, maybe this is why.

fanta
09-11-01, 12:37 PM
My god I'm stunned.

I still have to go to class today at 6:30 eastern. I dont think I can concentrate. Also today I was supposed to pick up my car...but I dont know what to do now.

I guess I better start preparing my military uniform...I might be reporting to duty soon.

God bless all those whose lives were lost, and affected by this act of war on the US. May god have mercy on those responsible.

Hopefully there wont be anymore attacks for the time being.

nightowl
09-11-01, 12:39 PM
canada/us border is back open, but all flights in the us/canada have bin grounded

JamieLee2k
09-11-01, 12:43 PM
So I wonder what is going to happen now

CiscoKid
09-11-01, 12:44 PM
I just got an e-mail from CoffeeCup software. Here is a direct quote of what they yhad to say:



We would like to also say on record that if any country
is found responsible for these attacks, we call for that
country's complete destruction and annihilation.

Prey521
09-11-01, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by fanta
May god have mercy on those responsible

I wish I could share those same feelings Chris, but I just can't!!!

nightowl
09-11-01, 12:45 PM
CN tower has bin evacuated and closed down in toronto

sean_numark
09-11-01, 12:46 PM
The ****ing bastards are going to pay for what they have done, who the **** do they think they are? lets bomb the ****ers right away and let them rot in hell. Any Americans out there we ALL feel for you i cant even begin to think how you feel but who ever did this will have there payback I ASURE YOU!!!!!!!!:cry: :cry: :cry:

Mehmet
09-11-01, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by mikemean


I'm sorry, and this is going to be the most racist thing I have ever said, but all Arabs should be rounded up and sent back to their own country.

ok mikemean, your on my ignore list from now on because of that comment...



and about this issue, yes we muslims get blamed for it, the guy on the news was saying "muslims believe that people who sacrifice themselves will go to a better place." That got me sooo ticked off. Yes it probably was bin ladan, but Bin Ladan is a psycho, what he is doing is not jihad (holy war). probably only .5 % of muslims believe bin ladan. Now what you just said mikemean wasnt just to arabs, but was to me and all the muslims that live in US. People like bin ladan give Muslims an extremely bad name.

If any of you guys were watching when those children and women (who were muslim also), jumping up and down happily because the US was hit, they have a reason to. Who is supporting the israelis? the US. Who is fighting the Israelis? the Palestinians. which means that the Palestinians are against the US. Of course they would jump up and down.


I felt extremely weird when i heard this, and was there a month ago looking up at it. It felt as if i was in a movie or something. I thought of prey when i remember him saying that he lived in manhattan, and i was like "oh *****."

I hope nothing else happens that is extremely big. I am in school right now and i watched the news report while getting ready, and here at my german class. I hope nothing else happens as i said before..

mooseboy8x v2
09-11-01, 12:50 PM
this shows what racist there are. to totaly condemn a whole group of pepole just because of the actions of a few demented individuals. as i wrote earlier, this sentiment will be far reaching and unfortunatly, many muslim/arabs will unduly be discriminated against and face this same persucution.

mikemean
09-11-01, 12:50 PM
Sorry Vegeto, but that's how I feel. I am still in shock and don't know if what I fell is right or wrong.

Mehmet
09-11-01, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by smaier69
just liquidate bin Ladin and his followers. no need to kill everybody in Palestine.

BTW they are chanting and singing and giving away candy on the West Bank in celebration of the attacks. \


first sentence i agree, no need to destroy all of palestine, second one, read my above post.

Mehmet
09-11-01, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by mooseboy8x v2
ithis shows what racist there are. to total condemn a whole group of pepole just because of the actions of a few demented individuals. as i wrote earlier, this sentiment will be far fetching and unfortunatly, many muslim/arabs will unduly discriminated against.

agree totally

RoundEye
09-11-01, 01:02 PM
vegeto, watch out for yourself. Many people are pissed at the muslims and arabs today. I would hate very much to hear of you getting attacked or some other dumb *****, because some d!ck head can't control their anger.

mouse
09-11-01, 01:02 PM
I will apologize for my fellow SG'ers Vegeto.....

I am Sorry for the rash comments that you are now reading on this forum. The whole thing has shocked most of us into a state of unthinking.

Things are being said in anger and confusion. Please forgive us.

Brent
09-11-01, 01:03 PM
I saw this posted in the Hardforums


"The third big war will begin when the big city is burning" - Nostradamus 1654

CoolJ
09-11-01, 01:05 PM
"shocked most of us into a state of unthinking.

Things are being said in anger and confusion"


Very true. Dont take it to heart Veg. Im sure you have said things too when you were mad.


Your cool in my book :)

mikemean
09-11-01, 01:05 PM
I offer my appology. I just woke up and was still sleepy and a little angry. Again, I offer my own appology. I'm very sorry Vegeto, I didn't realize what I said until it was pointed out that you were muslim. Again, I'm sorry. What I said was in anger, and not appropriate.

Mehmet
09-11-01, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by RoundEye
vegeto, watch out for yourself. Many people are pissed at the muslims and arabs today. I would hate very much to hear of you getting attacked or some other dumb *****, because some d!ck head can't control their anger.

I agree man, im watching my back, thats why im gonna get to my dads shop as soon as possible today just so that nothing happens to me. Thanx for careing.

SeedOfChaos
09-11-01, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by CoolJ
Your cool in my book :)

The problem is he's probably not cool in average-joe's book out in the street :(. I hope you'll be alright vegeto...

Ronald

blebs
09-11-01, 01:08 PM
Vegeto, I have a neighbor right next door who is Muslim and from Afghanistan. I have not seen him come out of his house since before the jets hit the buildings. I can only imagine what is going through his mind at this point. Might have to go check on him and his family.

crazyman
09-11-01, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by mouse
I will apologize for my fellow SG'ers Vegeto.....

I am Sorry for the rash comments that you are now reading on this forum. The whole thing has shocked most of us into a state of unthinking.

Things are being said in anger and confusion. Please forgive us.

read this everybody

http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46484

blebs
09-11-01, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by crazyman


read this everybody

http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46484

We as a nation, always jump the gun, so to speak. You have brought some reality back to the situation Crazyman. Thank you for reminding us!

Mehmet
09-11-01, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by blebs99
Vegeto, I have a neighbor right next door who is Muslim and from Afghanistan. I have not seen him come out of his house since before the jets hit the buildings. I can only imagine what is going through his mind at this point. Might have to go check on him and his family.

damn man, can you please tell me what happens when you go check up on him? I would hate for him to get stabbed or something. thanx/

RoundEye
09-11-01, 01:17 PM
Their closing malls, the Riverwalk and access to the Mississippi river. It's being rumored that they are moving Bush up the river to avoid him being in the air. I don't think it's true though. It's getting weird around here. Lots of things closing and limited access to buildings, our guard is on alert, and our military bases also are on alert.

Mehmet
09-11-01, 01:17 PM
i gotta go, i will talk when i get access to a comp.

bye all

cybotron r_9
09-11-01, 01:27 PM
America the beautiful, America the great
we shall survive this and be a great nation once again

just a thought shouldn't we have taken Bin ladin out when we had the chance:mad:

America the beautiful (http://www.hendersonville-pd.org/nurseryamerica.html)

princess
09-11-01, 01:29 PM
i just want to say that im glad my dad is no longer in the service. scares me. but i called my mom and she sad they could call him to serve even though he's retired. hope they dont.

i just want to tell anyone that is in the service to be safe, i will prey for you and your family, and may God be with you. i know that what has happened means war and our military will be called to assist our country. just thought i'd wish you luck.

Merc
09-11-01, 01:49 PM
I have to go But First thing I thought was man This will be a BIG THREAD ON SG.

Current Mood = Extremly Pissed off to the point of going insane.

Jim
09-11-01, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by cybotron r_9

just a thought shouldn't we have taken Bin ladin out when we had the chance:mad:


We never really have had a chance. We've never found him, and although there are always rumors and reports of his whereabouts, he's definately smart enough to avoid the US.

Banshee
09-11-01, 02:14 PM
We were watching the news all day today in school.

one of my cousins (that were just at my house a few days ago) works on one of the top floors of the world trade center

We can't even call over there, phone lines are dead

hope he is ok

:( :( :( :cry: :cry: :cry:

omg

Noevo
09-11-01, 02:20 PM
Banshee, I pray everything is okay with your cousin. As well I'm sure many others here will to. Hang in there.

lurker
09-11-01, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by Banshee
We were watching the news all day today in school.

one of my cousins (that were just at my house a few days ago) works on one of the top floors of the world trade center

We can't even call over there, phone lines are dead

hope they are ok

:( :( :( :cry: :cry: :cry:

omg

sucks to know that.. I really hope that your cousin is alrite..

drdoug99
09-11-01, 03:15 PM
:( :mad: this is pretty bad. may all the people who lost their lives rest in peace..

ace
09-11-01, 03:22 PM
cant beleive all the crazyness that is going on there.:mad:

drdoug99
09-11-01, 03:31 PM
banshee, godspeed for you cousin, hopefully he will be fine.

****, my best friend is stationed virgina for the army, I wonder what he's going through!!?:confused: :(

lurker
09-11-01, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by drdoug99
banshee, godspeed for you cousin, hopefully he will be fine.

****, my best friend is stationed virgina for the army, I wonder what he's going through!!?:confused: :(

One of my friend is stationed at Virgina too. But I'm not sure where..

TheAntipop
09-11-01, 03:47 PM
i havnt read the whole thread but i know everything thats happend cuz we watched it all day at school today. this is truly horrible. the worst attack on the US in the history of our nation. technically we cant go to war because there is no deffinate nation just a group but we can bomb the hell outta some folks. i only wish i was old enough to go. id love to be the one who put the gun to usama binladin's head and pulled the trigger. although i know plenty of people deserve that alot more than me. i wish he could be tortured by every american. i wish they would tie him down and let everybody who wishes to participate tear chunks out of his skin with tweasers. they could make it a televised event and everybody could stand in line to do it. this is total bull**** and there will be reprocussions and bush is gonna hunt em down.

SGTMAJRET
09-11-01, 03:52 PM
Terrorism is the way of cowards. We will hopefully be more proactive in locating terrorist training areas and supporters and destroy them. We have been far too lenient in regards to this type of warfare.

THIS WAS A DECLARATION OF WAR AND SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH!

Prey521
09-11-01, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by TheAntipop
I wish they would tie him down and let everybody who wishes to participate tear chunks out of his skin with tweasers. they could make it a televised event and everybody could stand in line to do it.

Ouch, remind me not too piss you off :D

IranianHobo
09-11-01, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by SGTMAJRET


THIS WAS A DECLARATION OF WAR AND SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH!


According to our last President and I am sure our first would agree we already have been at war with terrorism so this is not a decleration of war this is an act of war. You cant declare war twice against the same person.

SGTMAJRET
09-11-01, 04:08 PM
I truly believe that we will find who was responsible for today's attrocity. I can only hope the reponse will be APPROPRIATE for the crime. This was a challenge to what this country represents. President Bush stated it clearly when he said this was an attack on freedom.

I served in the military for 24 years and trained and went to war, but we had a clear definition of the enemy. It appears we are surrounded by the enemy, an enemy that will not directly face the soldiers of this country, but the innocent populace.

When President Reagan ordered the attack on Khudafi's HQ in the 80's and barely missed him, it did send a message. Khudafi got very quiet from then on. I regret that there will be distrust and hatred directed toward islamic and arabic people now, but the television shots from the West Bank of Palestinians celebrating in the streets doesn't help their image.

My heart goes out to the victims and their families that had no idea they would be casualties of a faceless war. My prayers are with you.

mikemean
09-11-01, 04:23 PM
Another building has collapsed

IranianHobo
09-11-01, 04:26 PM
oh god the verizon building????

mikemean
09-11-01, 04:28 PM
It was bulding number seven in that complex.

IranianHobo
09-11-01, 04:29 PM
yes the new verizon building just went down. 7 world trade center. thank god the firefighters stayed out of the building for fear of collapse. I can see the smoke from here In Port Washington :eek: Gonna ask my mom to take me out to a peek where we can see the entre skyline

TriDenT$@L
09-11-01, 04:39 PM
look im in the uk i dont really know what to say about this "words can,t describe this just my thoughts are with the dead and there familys and just everyone out there.......reflection is now and to every action there is a reaction.........peace be with you all TriDenT$@L manchester uk............:cry:

mouse
09-11-01, 05:02 PM
Afghanistan is under attack...

RoundEye
09-11-01, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by mouse
Afghanistan is under attack...

From the US?

Who's attacking them?

Dias
09-11-01, 05:12 PM
OMG ... this is crazy .. this is just horryfing. I just got home and this.. wow ..... very scary.

IranianHobo
09-11-01, 05:13 PM
Wath C-Span. BBC time to get some real news

TEH WIN
09-11-01, 05:45 PM
It was first said that the Palistenians took blame for this.

This is a horrible tragity.. which i take VERY personally. I love my country... I have a long line of militar in my family. I am very upset...

FunK
09-11-01, 05:47 PM
Supposedly Bush did not order the attacks on Kubal.

After the Afghan's official response of "we feel your pain America" I think that we should respond with the same after we bomb them back to the stone age (If they (and Bin Laden) are the ones responsible of course).

"Hey Afghanistan, we feel your pain. Sure don't know who did that to you. Good luck finding the culprits. Looks like a terrorist attack to me. We would help but we're too busy handling our own issues right now."

FunK

lurker
09-11-01, 05:52 PM
If we did do the attack, I hope we werent accusing the wrong place.

emixnem
09-11-01, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by mouse
Afghanistan is under attack...
no they are not being attack
cnn just said so..
its just them celebrating

FunK
09-11-01, 05:59 PM
I don't think it matters at this point. It looks to have been an attack from a foriegn power.

With that said, is it completely wrong for us to go after ALL TERRORISTS that have ever acted against the US?

If Bin Ladin didn't do it, so what, he needs to be taken out anyway.

I think we will find out who did it and act on that. However, even if we don't, I think there will be allot of action taken against ALL terrorist cells to get the point across. I also feel that this heat will fall on the nations that harbor these criminals.

Don't forget the USS Cole. Bin Ladin was supposedly part of that attack too.
Do we not go for him if he wasn't part of this attack?
No, we take him out.

FunK

Joe
09-11-01, 06:00 PM
did anyone watch on CNN the secretary of defense address the press?

He basically said we are going to kick some major ass!

Mark
09-11-01, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by FunK


If Bin Ladin didn't do it, so what, he needs to be taken out anyway.

Don't forget the USS Cole. Bin Ladin was supposedly part of that attack too.
Do we not go for him if he wasn't part of this attack?
No, we take him out.

FunK


rigth on man just do it.

Gman33
09-11-01, 07:14 PM
I can't believe them sandbagging mother******* did that to us!!!
Man forget this information collective crap. We should just go there and nuke those f******* middle east countries out of existence!!!

Those people over there are in wars every damn day, they don't know what peace is. To me, these people are not human.

Randy
09-11-01, 07:26 PM
this whole thig has got me trapped like a deer in headlights i cant seem to do anything but think about it im full of anxiety and i feel sad ,,,, i think i am goin to drink a case of beer, even though i know tomarrow it will still be on my mind all day.

I am sorry for you ameican people, you are strong and i know you will comeback even stronger.

you can land your plane in my canadian backyard anytime

:)

Kick ass, then peace Randy

cybotron r_9
09-11-01, 07:30 PM
i'm gonna go play some Team Fortress Classic to get a way from all this killing:D

Indy
09-11-01, 07:59 PM
Just got home...panic has set in here and people are creating huge gas lines at the stations trying to get gasoline :( This is freakin' nuts...

My wife and I are going to go to the blood center tomorrow and donate blood and I encourage all that read this do the same...

Noevo
09-11-01, 08:03 PM
same thing here Indy, passed huge lines for gas on the way home. And gas prices have been going up already.

merkster
09-11-01, 08:09 PM
wow fark man i feel sorry for all the people down in america right now, yeah i think we do needa take a massive stand against terrorist. for some of the people here i can understand your anger but we should blame all middle east countries, and remember this was a terrorist attack not an intended thing by the actual country. but for those people celebrating that this happened well they needa get a life.:mad: :mad:

hope you al the best down there

Indy
09-11-01, 08:42 PM
Thanks merkster for the words of encouragement...

I think it's becoming evidently clear through the elected officials on TV that whoever is found responsible for this, if they are being sheltered by a country (read Bin Laden & Afghanistan), then not only is the terrorist going to be subject to American Justice, but that foreign government will as well..

Nick Hamilton
09-11-01, 09:43 PM
Ok here is my two cents.

I have not posted at Speedguide for quite some time, but as soon as I heard the news accross the tv, I intsantly thought of all you passionate americans that think the world of yourselves -and I thought I might post my opinion... but it is just my opinion and I am alowed to have that as long as I dont fly a plane into a couple of landmarks right?

Id like to ask you this, what does it achieve if you destroy a whole nation? Lets say that one crazy american/englishman/chinese/who cares decides to go and committ a horific act along the same order of magnitude as the one last night, does that then give the government of the attacked nation the right to go and kill so many innocent people from the perpertrators country, which, and lets be realistic, had nothing to do with the crime? What you are then doing in that instance is lowering yourselves to the terrorists level. One of the things that divides 3rd world nations from 1st world nations is the ability to raise oneself from the face of adversity -displaying the might and power of america by screwing another nation is not the answer.

Dont get me wrong, I was woken at 2:00 this morning (im in Melbourne, Australia) by my girlfriend in sydney with the explicit set of instructions to go and watch the tv... what I saw was something that my only way of describing it was something out of independance day. We were all shocked, sad and afraid for the ramefecations could be severe and prolonged.

My aunt lives in new york and thankfully she and her husband are ok, and we were all quite worried, but the unfortunatre reality to this is that some of you are not so fortunate and have lost loved ones... Im not saying you shouldnt get justice, but screwing an entire country and many thousands of innocent people for the pure sake of getting revenge and making the point that america is the all powerful nation is not right. Trust me, everyone is well aware of the power that america has, it is forced down our throats every single minute of every single day. Punish those directly responsible, not those who have nothing to do with it.
If you guys start a massive war, which could turn nuclear, or biological, so many more people will be affected than you can possibly comprehend. If that happened, then I could never forgive the actions of the USA.

My heart goes out to all those suffering now, its not fair and its not right, but if you follow this under the pusuit of revenge rather than justice, there will be others in the same position that you are in now, and guess what... they will behave in the same way, resulting in only one thing -a vicious circle of revenge, war and death, nothing good could come out of it.

I wish this had never happened.

Merc
09-11-01, 09:47 PM
What you say goes well if we lived in a perfect world. If there is NO consquences then anyone can do everything. I live by eye for an eye. My one hate is that its too bad you can only kill someone once.

Noevo
09-11-01, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Nick Hamilton
Ok here is my two cents.

I have not posted at Speedguide for quite some time, but as soon as I heard the news accross the tv, I intsantly thought of all you passionate americans that think the world of yourselves -and I thought I might post my opinion... but it is just my opinion and I am alowed to have that as long as I dont fly a plane into a couple of landmarks right?

Id like to ask you this, what does it achieve if you destroy a whole nation? Lets say that one crazy american/englishman/chinese/who cares decides to go and committ a horific act along the same order of magnitude as the one last night, does that then give the government of the attacked nation the right to go and kill so many innocent people from the perpertrators country, which, and lets be realistic, had nothing to do with the crime? What you are then doing in that instance is lowering yourselves to the terrorists level. One of the things that divides 3rd world nations from 1st world nations is the ability to raise oneself from the face of adversity -displaying the might and power of america by screwing another nation is not the answer.

Dont get me wrong, I was woken at 2:00 this morning (im in Melbourne, Australia) by my girlfriend in sydney with the explicit set of instructions to go and watch the tv... what I saw was something that my only way of describing it was something out of independance day. We were all shocked, sad and afraid for the ramefecations could be severe and prolonged.

My aunt lives in new york and thankfully she and her husband are ok, and we were all quite worried, but the unfortunatre reality to this is that some of you are not so fortunate and have lost loved ones... Im not saying you shouldnt get justice, but screwing an entire country and many thousands of innocent people for the pure sake of getting revenge and making the point that america is the all powerful nation is not right. Trust me, everyone is well aware of the power that america has, it is forced down our throats every single minute of every single day. Punish those directly responsible, not those who have nothing to do with it.
If you guys start a massive war, which could turn nuclear, or biological, so many more people will be affected than you can possibly comprehend. If that happened, then I could never forgive the actions of the USA.

My heart goes out to all those suffering now, its not fair and its not right, but if you follow this under the pusuit of revenge rather than justice, there will be others in the same position that you are in now, and guess what... they will behave in the same way, resulting in only one thing -a vicious circle of revenge, war and death, nothing good could come out of it.

I wish this had never happened.

thanks for the support Nick. The problem is what do you do when they are protecting someone like this with innocent people? let them go because of it?

mouse
09-11-01, 09:52 PM
We must make a stand or we will be targeted for future attack.

We must strike and Strike Hard, we must make an example out of them for everyone to see. Give the next guy who thinks that he has the balls to do something like this something to think about...

mikemean
09-11-01, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by mouse
We must make a stand or we will be targeted for future attack.

We must strike and Strike Hard, we must make an example out of them for everyone to see. Give the next guy who thinks that he has the balls to do something like this something to think about...

YOU GO GIRL! I have to agree here as well.

Dias
09-11-01, 09:56 PM
Acts fueled by hate - does that allow more acts fuel by hatE?
I myself am indesissive in this. BUt like the guy before me said , and eye for and eye.

Nick Hamilton
09-11-01, 10:00 PM
Im not self righteous, but stop and consider the ramifications of any actions that you might take.. just for one split second.

What if a world war starts because of this, because you want revenge huh.... then in all likelihood, Ill be conscripted (because Im 20, fit and strong without flat feet), ill go and get my balls blown off and I wont be able to come and spend a good 50 or 60 years with the woman that I love. That is not fair. On top of that, ill be forced to be in a position that I dont want to be, ie kill or be killed. The fact of the matter is that war will solve absolutely nothing. Preventing this happening will, and thats why you need to find the person/persons directly responsible only.

I understand that you are all upset, emotional and a great deal of pain, which is why you need to make a consious effort to stop and consider the bigger picture instead of acting under the heat of the moment.

Noevo
09-11-01, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by Nick Hamilton
Im not self righteous, but stop and consider the ramifications of any actions that you might take.. just for one split second.

What if a world war starts because of this, because you want revenge huh.... then in all likelihood, Ill be conscripted (because Im 20, fit and strong without flat feet), ill go and get my balls blown off and I wont be able to come and spend a good 50 or 60 years with the woman that I love. That is not fair. On top of that, ill be forced to be in a position that I dont want to be, ie kill or be killed. The fact of the matter is that war will solve absolutely nothing. Preventing this happening will, and thats why you need to find the person/persons directly responsible only.

I understand that you are all upset, emotional and a great deal of pain, which is why you need to make a consious effort to stop and consider the bigger picture instead of acting under the heat of the moment.

The thing is Nick, none of us are going to start a war. I may be speaking for myself here, but posting in all these threads is somewhat my way of coping with this. I will not attack anyone tommorow. I promise.

David
09-11-01, 10:10 PM
Like Noevo said.... This is all talk..... We are venting.

Nick, no one wants any of this. I found commentary on American bravado was a bit ill-timed.

shant,
david

Dias
09-11-01, 10:13 PM
Venting is good and all . ITs just when ppl start to get ignorant and say things that really offend diifrent groups of ppl .

Nick Hamilton
09-11-01, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by Noevo


The thing is Nick, none of us are going to start a war. I may be speaking for myself here, but posting in all these threads is somewhat my way of coping with this. I will not attack anyone tommorow. I promise.


Who Said that none of you are going to start a war, if Bush is representing the general sentiment (which as president isnt that his job?) He said himself (cant remember the exact quote) that america will stage an attack on any government found to be responsible.

David
09-11-01, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by Nick Hamilton



Who Said that none of you are going to start a war, if Bush is representing the general sentiment (which as president isnt that his job?) He said himself (cant remember the exact quote) that america will stage an attack on any government found to be responsible.

I suppose your prime minister speaks your mind as well?
Let us watch an see what happens...

Dias
09-11-01, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by Nick Hamilton



Who Said that none of you are going to start a war, if Bush is representing the general sentiment (which as president isnt that his job?) He said himself (cant remember the exact quote) that america will stage an attack on any government found to be responsible.

Well of course the sentuments at the beginging will be anger. But i have faith (might sound stupid) that ppl will be more enlighten that war is the last resort. Looking thorugh WW1 and WW2, the casualties were horendous, and this without much of a nuclear arsenal.

Noevo
09-11-01, 10:26 PM
Sorry if I mislead you Nick, but when I said "none of us" i was speaking of the people here on this board. Wasn't speaking for our government.

Nick Hamilton
09-11-01, 10:34 PM
Ok Ok,
Hypothetically, Lets say that George Dubbewya Bush has declared war, do you support this. Knowing full well what the outcome will be like.

Dias
09-11-01, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by Nick Hamilton
Ok Ok,
Hypothetically, Lets say that George Dubbewya Bush has declared war, do you support this. Knowing full well what the outcome will be like.
Frankly my good man .. i do not know . Whatever courses my gov and you gov makes, i guess id go along . I believe in Ethics in war, stupid as that may sound .

Noevo
09-11-01, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by Nick Hamilton
Ok Ok,
Hypothetically, Lets say that George Dubbewya Bush has declared war, do you support this. Knowing full well what the outcome will be like.

Easy, I support my country.

Nick Hamilton
09-11-01, 10:46 PM
I goto go now, but its been a pleasure discussing this with you all.
I genuinely hope it all works out and you all find some relief.
It has been a terrible tradgedy, not right, not fair.
Nick.

Dias
09-11-01, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by Nick Hamilton
I goto go now, but its been a pleasure discussing this with you all.
I genuinely hope it all works out and you all find some relief.
It has been a terrible tradgedy, not right, not fair.
Nick.
Have a good one man ... we all feeling this,........

LukeMan
09-11-01, 10:49 PM
posted by nick


Who Said that none of you are going to start a war, if Bush is representing the general sentiment (which as president isnt that his job?) He said himself (cant remember the exact quote) that america will stage an attack on any government found to be responsible.

What W said was that justice would be swift and sure for any who supported or aided the terrorist. That is a far cry from "attacking any government".

I have been watching the postings all day and refrained from commenting. Your posting was one of the most balanced I have seen all day till you said this.

As one who has been seen war first hand it is not a pretty thing. However, America will track down and bring to justice those responsible for this acts. It is our right and our duty and one can only hope that justice is swift and sure.

ColdFusion
09-11-01, 11:39 PM
Ok, im still on the 4th page but i must post. When i heard this @ school... the 1st thing i thought about was Prey, and all the other people. Omg im starting to cry. THis is so sad. Who could do such a thing, all those kids sitting at home waiting for there mommy and daddy to come home. Dammit. Im so glad everyone is ok, prey seriouisly, god im so happy you are safe, damn imagine if you took that job.

Now, if bush diclares war, they say that if a nuke hits anywhere, it can destroy half of the us in 13seconds. If he declares war, the best thing to do is just send ****ing all the planes in a bomb them to nothing, or they are gonna drop some huge **** on us. Im so scared, everyone is saying that there is not going to be a war, and i kept on saying yes there is. Look at the future. It can all happen. So many people dying. Dammit in those buildings, the people on the top floor, no hope at all and they know it. Just imagine everyone being so calm down the stairways. Then just falling. All those people that lost there lives in less then 5 seconds. I cant believe this. Someone has to be so sick... just ****ing messed up.

I dont know what to do, seriously, Canada and USA stick together. If USA goes to war, so do we.

I dunno, if ur country asked you to goto war.. would you ?

PS: Something that is so different about this thread, is that there are no smilies. That just makes me even more sadder. I dont know why, but it just means how serioius it is. This is very seriousy people. We have no clue. Im scared to goto bed, what happens if something happens while im astleep.

I just dont know. I just dont really know, except of all the hate i have in my heart. I hope those terrorists, as soon as they crashed, they went straight to hell, and will burn there for ****ing ever.
I have so much sympathy for the people on that plane. Imagine getting a call from your husband or wife, saying that " your plane was hijacked, and that i love you very very much. and there is a good chance im gonna die. So i love you. " Just imagine the terror inside that plane. Just that picture of the plane flying into the building. Just perfect, sliced right through it. Its so damn sicking i wanna puke. This is a day in history, which will never be forgotten, September, 07, 2001.

Just i wonder whats next. The USA does not want to be known as a week country... Well they show that by fighting back, so packistan says, when are they gonna stop... who knows, lets bomb them. Then Packistan calls on a country that is close to them to help fight, and the USA calls on others.. i can see it all happening.

Guys, I dunno, But whatever happens, I love u all.
God bless you guys, and all the people that died on this day. Innocent lives taken.. for what ?

Peace,
Matt

Noevo
09-12-01, 12:12 AM
Thanks Linuxdawg, I think you put into words what most of us could not throughout the day. be safe

fanta
09-12-01, 02:33 AM
All day long I've been thinking about what happened.

I still cant believe it happened. I remember my mom waking me up telling me about some terrorists in New York. Then I remember my father telling me that The World Trade Center Towers were toppled...I couldn't believe it.

What a shocking day.

lurker
09-12-01, 03:15 AM
Originally posted by fanta
All day long I've been thinking about what happened.

I still cant believe it happened. I remember my mom waking me up telling me about some terrorists in New York. Then I remember my father telling me that The World Trade Center Towers were toppled...I couldn't believe it.

What a shocking day.

Yea I know how you feel. My sister was getting ready for work, i was sleeping and my mom was making breakfast for her. She heard on radio and said pretty loud about what had happened. I jumped outta bed, turn on the tv, and sadly it was true..

Croc
09-12-01, 03:17 AM
This series of acts defies belief and yet there it is.

To all those affected in any way by this act of terrorism I pray for you all in this. What a tragic loss of innocent life and to prove what? Among these were 70 Australian workers or tourists.

I hope the response to this terrorism will be swift and complete. Applying the death penalty would be too good for the perpetrators of this terrible, terrible crime.
Be strong my American friends.

A saddened and angry Croc.

dreww71
09-12-01, 06:24 AM
Originally posted by LiNuXdAwG
Ok, im still on the 4th page but i must post. When i heard this
Now, if bush diclares war, they say that if a nuke hits anywhere, it can destroy half of the us in 13seconds. If he declares war, the best thing to do is just send ****ing all the planes in a bomb them to nothing, or they are gonna drop some huge **** on us. Im so scared, everyone is saying that there is not going to be a war, and i kept on saying yes there is. Look at the future. It can all happen. So many people dying. Dammit in those buildings, the people on the top floor, no hope at all and they know it. Just imagine everyone being so calm down the stairways. Then just falling. All those people that lost there lives in less then 5 seconds. I cant believe this. Someone has to be so sick... just ****ing messed up.

I dont know what to do, seriously, Canada and USA stick together. If USA goes to war, so do we.

I dunno, if ur country asked you to goto war.. would you ?

PS: Something that is so different about this thread, is that there are no smilies. That just makes me even more sadder. I dont know why, but it just means how serioius it is. This is very seriousy people. We have no clue. Im scared to goto bed, what happens if something happens while im astleep.

I just dont know. I just dont really know, except of all the hate i have in my heart. I hope those terrorists, as soon as they crashed, they went straight to hell, and will burn there for ****ing ever.
I have so much sympathy for the people on that plane. Imagine getting a call from your husband or wife, saying that " your plane was hijacked, and that i love you very very much. and there is a good chance im gonna die. So i love you. " Just imagine the terror inside that plane. Just that picture of the plane flying into the building. Just perfect, sliced right through it. Its so damn sicking i wanna puke. This is a day in history, which will never be forgotten, September, 07, 2001.

Just i wonder whats next. The USA does not want to be known as a week country... Well they show that by fighting back, so packistan says, when are they gonna stop... who knows, lets bomb them. Then Packistan calls on a country that is close to them to help fight, and the USA calls on others.. i can see it all happening.

Guys, I dunno, But whatever happens, I love u all.
God bless you guys, and all the people that died on this day. Innocent lives taken.. for what ?

Peace,
Matt


What does Packistan have to do with this? And who is the US going to declare war against? More likely that US will seek out the individuals responsible and bring them to justice rather than blanket bombing of innocent people.

Indy
09-12-01, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by dreww71



What does Packistan have to do with this? And who is the US going to declare war against? More likely that US will seek out the individuals responsible and bring them to justice rather than blanket bombing of innocent people.

I think he may have been mistaken and had intended to say Afghanistan...they're known to be sheltering bin laden...the US leaders have made it pointedly clear that the government who is sheltering those who were responsible for this will shoulder the weight of retaliation as well...

jayyy
09-12-01, 08:27 AM
You bomb a nation`s biggest economic hubs and their most important military intelligence base, killing thousands, its a pretty safe bet they`re going to declare war on you. Those are the consequences you face.@I feel sympathy for the organization or country that did this like I feel sympathy for someone who walks up to a 6'6, 300-pound guy in a bar and hits him over the head with a beer bottle.

So suppose afghanistan does go up in a mushroom cloud...well, thats really no more than anyone would expect, is it?

dreww71
09-12-01, 10:57 AM
Some of you may not know but many in Afghanistan live under oppression brought about by the Taliban regime. Bombing these innocent people would be a tragic mistake. Make no mistake those responsible should be punished, but lets make sure who they are and where they are, so that innocent people are not killed.

CiscoKid
09-12-01, 11:29 AM
I just heard my cousins are all safe and accounted for!!!!

They two who are NY Cops were both on vacation right now :D I'm glad to hear they're safe and sound

Noevo
09-12-01, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by CiscoCert
I just heard my cousins are all safe and accounted for!!!!

They two who are NY Cops were both on vacation right now :D I'm glad to hear they're safe and sound

glad to hear your family is safe as well CiscoCert.

CiscoKid
09-12-01, 01:01 PM
They are not even in the country righ tnow, they took a cruise in the Bahamas, I wonder how they gunna get back...they gotta fly home from Florida back to the city...

Noevo
09-12-01, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by CiscoCert
They are not even in the country righ tnow, they took a cruise in the Bahamas, I wonder how they gunna get back...they gotta fly home from Florida back to the city...

When they do fly home, I have a feeling it will be the safest flight they have ever been on.